Voyager Optimus Prime from Transformers: The Last Knight Officially Revealed on Tmall TV
Wednesday, November 9th, 2016 9:28PM CST
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The grey model shown is of the same toy and it is actually hand crafted by sculptors (before the mold for mass release is done). This model is then photographed and digitally painted.
The sample shown is confirmed to be according to the colours chosen by the designers. While anything can happen, this seems to indeed be the final colouring of the toy.
The conversion was said to take about 15 steps (with some steps being truncated as one for this estimate).
John Warden then said that Hasbro was currently working on 160 transformers toys, at different stages of course. While that seems like a big number, it would include redecos, one steps and one step redecos.
We then got a look at how an artist designs a toy, using Soundwave as an example.
The special ended with a shot of the entire Transformers team (which seems to have as many women as men, a pleasant surprise) while an exchange of gifts were. Tmall got a custom Year of the Horse Optimus Prime while Hasbro got a 5 meter long piece of art showing many different versions of Optimus and Megatron.
You can watch the entire hour long episode here, or simply take a gander at the screenshots below. Enjoy!
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Posted by Emerje on November 9th, 2016 @ 10:22pm CST
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... den/36680/
Emerje
Posted by william-james88 on November 9th, 2016 @ 10:34pm CST
Emerje wrote:Why is this being posted for a second time today?
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... den/36680/
Emerje
Because this gives a detailed run down of what's going on and confirms that it's a voyager along with the amount of steps it takes ect.
Posted by Emerje on November 9th, 2016 @ 10:49pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Emerje wrote:Why is this being posted for a second time today?
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... den/36680/
Emerje
Because this gives a detailed run down of what's going on and confirms that it's a voyager along with the amount of steps it takes ect.
I suppose I have never seen a news post updated here, I guess starting new posts is how it's done on Seibertron. I just have it ingrained in me to always update news posts rather than start new ones whenever possible, otherwise people might mistake the new post for the old one they've already read and stop scrolling down.
Emerje
Posted by william-james88 on November 9th, 2016 @ 11:00pm CST
Emerje wrote:william-james88 wrote:Emerje wrote:Why is this being posted for a second time today?
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... den/36680/
Emerje
Because this gives a detailed run down of what's going on and confirms that it's a voyager along with the amount of steps it takes ect.
I suppose I have never seen a news post updated here, I guess starting new posts is how it's done on Seibertron. I just have it ingrained in me to always update news posts rather than start new ones whenever possible, otherwise people might mistake the new post for the old one they've already read and stop scrolling down.
Emerje
That's why I made sure it was s different title. Also, if it had just been written, then yeah an update would be fine. But by then it had been a while, the news post was lowering down the front page and there was so mch to say that a new article seemed appropriate.
Posted by fenrir72 on November 9th, 2016 @ 11:35pm CST
Posted by Autobot Roadburn on November 9th, 2016 @ 11:46pm CST
Also the Optimus mold looks good, but looks like a lot of the detail might get lost in the blander plastics. I want to see him in hand, but I might get him if he's as complex as he looks.
Posted by Megatron Wolf on November 10th, 2016 @ 3:20am CST
Posted by Kurona on November 10th, 2016 @ 4:03am CST
Posted by Va'al on November 10th, 2016 @ 4:06am CST
william-james88 wrote:Emerje wrote:william-james88 wrote:Emerje wrote:Why is this being posted for a second time today?
http://www.seibertron.com/transformers/ ... den/36680/
Emerje
Because this gives a detailed run down of what's going on and confirms that it's a voyager along with the amount of steps it takes ect.
I suppose I have never seen a news post updated here, I guess starting new posts is how it's done on Seibertron. I just have it ingrained in me to always update news posts rather than start new ones whenever possible, otherwise people might mistake the new post for the old one they've already read and stop scrolling down.
Emerje
That's why I made sure it was s different title. Also, if it had just been written, then yeah an update would be fine. But by then it had been a while, the news post was lowering down the front page and there was so mch to say that a new article seemed appropriate.
Plus, this new one has the full video, better images, and it generates new social media posts, bringing new readers to the article.
Posted by Kyleor on November 10th, 2016 @ 8:23am CST
Posted by Emerje on November 10th, 2016 @ 8:27am CST
Kyleor wrote:So they're officially going with a bad looking toy, instead of a better looking one, for the new movie? I guess that one is 'cheaper' to make for a shelfwarmer.
It's only a Voyager and it's already considerably better looking than the Leader class figure we got for the last movie. I'd be surprised if they don't have a better looking Leader figure when the line fully launches.
Emerje
Posted by william-james88 on November 10th, 2016 @ 9:05am CST
Emerje wrote:Kyleor wrote:So they're officially going with a bad looking toy, instead of a better looking one, for the new movie? I guess that one is 'cheaper' to make for a shelfwarmer.
It's only a Voyager and it's already considerably better looking than the Leader class figure we got for the last movie. I'd be surprised if they don't have a better looking Leader figure when the line fully launches.
Emerje
I am really curious now. If they could figure out how to better engineer the voyager, how would an improved leader look like? Then again Voyager Grimlock had better engineering than Leader Grimlock, in my humble opinion (no partsforming and no robot hands showing).
Posted by NovamusPrime3 on November 10th, 2016 @ 10:15am CST
Posted by william-james88 on November 10th, 2016 @ 10:28am CST
NovamusPrime3 wrote:heck they probably had titans return stuff there just so they could show the scale and still i am going to say this im getting all of wave 2 (2017) or 4 (if its your choosing on the numberd waves) for titans return
Its to promote whats coming for chinese audiences.
Posted by Bronzewolf on November 17th, 2016 @ 12:17pm CST
Posted by Madeus Prime on November 17th, 2016 @ 12:24pm CST
Posted by Optimum Supreme on November 17th, 2016 @ 1:16pm CST
Madeus Prime wrote:Bit of a backpack, but honestly this figure looks pretty good, especially in contrast to the crap ones from AOE. I might pick him up for the comic.
Contrasting it with aoe (other than the excellent evasion mode version) is damning it with faint praise. I don't think it looks very good, but it's a single pic, I'll wait for more to judge.
Posted by william-james88 on November 17th, 2016 @ 1:19pm CST
Bronzewolf wrote:Seibertronians, we have some additional details on the newly-announced Transformers 5: The Last Knight Optimus Prime Toy. Coming from a post on the official Transformers Instagram, we have an additional shot as well as the full official product name of the first TLK action figure. It seems the figure will have more detail work than standard figures, inspired by Prime's movie paintwork. Take a look at the New "Premier Edition Voyager Optimus Prime" figure below, and tell us if you think this new "Premier Edition" Branding will become a new sublime for the movie figures.
EEsh, and here I was hoping we would see a premium version of this toy. But no, it IS the premium version
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 17th, 2016 @ 1:20pm CST
Am I interpreting this right: this is like the First edition toys from Prime and that first Leader Prime from AoE, and another, different retail version will come later?
Posted by william-james88 on November 17th, 2016 @ 1:32pm CST
Optimum Supreme wrote:Madeus Prime wrote:Bit of a backpack, but honestly this figure looks pretty good, especially in contrast to the crap ones from AOE. I might pick him up for the comic.
Contrasting it with aoe (other than the excellent evasion mode version) is damning it with faint praise. I don't think it looks very good, but it's a single pic, I'll wait for more to judge.
I dont know man, I have never ever heard anyone call AD 31 Armour Knight Prime crap, and it totally counts as an AOE Prime. In fact, 85% of amazon reviews on that toy wee 5 stars https://www.amazon.com/Transformers-Adv ... merReviews?tag=seibertron07-20&
That being said, I think there is great potential for this toy, but the lesser backpack can only go so far when it looks this bland.
Posted by Madeus Prime on November 17th, 2016 @ 1:44pm CST
Optimum Supreme wrote:Contrasting it with aoe (other than the excellent evasion mode version) is damning it with faint praise. I don't think it looks very good, but it's a single pic, I'll wait for more to judge.
All I'm saying is it isn't this:
Or this:
william-james88 wrote:I dont know man, I have never ever heard anyone call AD 31 Armour Knight Prime crap, and it totally counts as an AOE Prime.
I totally forgot about that, and yeah, he's a beautiful figure. But he does share the retail release's backpack...
william-james88 wrote:That being said, I think there is great potential for this toy, but the lesser backpack can only go so far when it looks this bland.
I agree. I just was stating that for the backpack, it's the best toy release we've seen of his post-AOE appearance. Strictly for the backpack. I agree that it looks only fair, not great.
Posted by RAR on November 17th, 2016 @ 3:07pm CST
But looking at the unaltered Prime - yeah he is a little plain looking - that was why I attacked mine with a paint brush and added a great deal of silver to him.
The main issue with the mould family i'd say is the backpack - something the Overscale KBB Knock Off addresses by making it removable.
He's miles better than Grimlock anyway - I actually consider the mould kinda complementary to the KO Hound toys though.
But it's not like i'd be encouraging people to buy one with huge enthusiasm. Heck I'd say spend your money on the overscale KO as that is at least bigger and has some metal in it as well as the premium deco.
But as I bought my Takara one from Lena (boxed) it was pretty cheap for both of them - (both came from Lena) as being in the UK there was hardly anywhere to buy them aside from online.
I don't really think I can even have a huge opinion dump on AOE simply as I have hardly any of it other than some Onestep and the Optimus toys.
I don't even have an AOE Dlx Bumblebee.
I have tinkered with the idea of buying the Dinobots from time to time though - since they are only Deluxes the only reason I've not done so is I keep thinking - for the same money I can get a bigger partly metal KO version that is a bit more in keeping with their size in the Movie... so that put me off buying them at all I guess.
I never bought the Autobots as I was thinking I'd kinda like the boxed set of Autobots - but I never really saw it for sale so I never ended up with that either.
To be honest I tend to forget to go toy hunting for Movie toys at all for months at a time - despite not really having any great bias against them.
yet I also don't want them so badly that I'd often prioritise them over other things I suppose.
I tend to think... yes I'll get those AOE Movie toys - but it might be AFTER I get around to chasing a lot of other things 1st. It probably doesn't help that I've not seen the Movie all the way through either.
Posted by Emerje on November 17th, 2016 @ 5:17pm CST
Emerje
Posted by transformnerd114 on November 17th, 2016 @ 9:21pm CST
Posted by Va'al on November 18th, 2016 @ 11:34am CST
Posted by Hero Alpha on November 18th, 2016 @ 11:40am CST
Posted by william-james88 on November 18th, 2016 @ 11:50am CST
Paint looks better than what I previously thought though.
Also WOW, that guy is really into Taylor Swift. Reminds me of my crush on Michelle Branch back in highschool.
Posted by Emerje on November 18th, 2016 @ 12:12pm CST
william-james88 wrote:So those hps really have 2 different grey plastics, thats too bad.
Hasbro seems to be having some issues lately in matching shades between two different types of plastic. Like how Wolfwire has thinner yellow plastic (shoulders and legs) in one shade while the thicker plastic used for structure (torso, pelvis, and elbows) is slightly different. Wolfwire's bicep swivel is made of two obviously different shades of yellow just like this Prime's thigh swivel.
Emerje
Posted by Fc203 on November 18th, 2016 @ 1:06pm CST
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Posted by feifangongzi on November 18th, 2016 @ 1:30pm CST
Posted by Va'al on November 18th, 2016 @ 2:16pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on November 18th, 2016 @ 2:22pm CST
feifangongzi wrote:All movie toy line designer should be Fired! How ugly is this robot!
But that would mean firing the best designer of all time, Hasui, the guy who made all those amazing MP toys (from MP 10 all the way to BB, I think). He also designed movie toys, like HFTD Leader Starscream.
Posted by hinomars19 on November 18th, 2016 @ 2:56pm CST
william-james88 wrote:feifangongzi wrote:All movie toy line designer should be Fired! How ugly is this robot!
But that would mean firing the best designer of all time, Hasui, the guy who made all those amazing MP toys (from MP 10 all the way to BB, I think). He also designed movie toys, like HFTD Leader Starscream.
Yeah, designers are not to blame. Sadly they have to do what they are told within the restrictions set by whatever line they are assigned to. It's the takara/ hasbro boffins that are to blame. Moving Hasui from the MP's to movie toys was absurd.(HFTD Screamer being an exception) RiD toys was absurd.
Posted by Burn on November 18th, 2016 @ 2:56pm CST
Posted by Va'al on November 18th, 2016 @ 3:03pm CST
Burn wrote:It's kinda growing on me but ... I don't feel this screams "The Last Knight" as it looks too "Age of Extinction" to me. I guess I'm use to seeing a different look with each movie and this one doesn't seem to be doing that.
Could that be a good thing, maybe? A sign of some sort of continuity or consistency?
Posted by william-james88 on November 18th, 2016 @ 3:13pm CST
hinomars19 wrote:Yeah, designers are not to blame. Sadly they have to do what they are told within the restrictions set by whatever line they are assigned to. It's the takara/ hasbro boffins that are to blame. Moving Hasui from the MP's to movie toys was absurd.(HFTD Screamer being an exception)
They didnt, he went from movie toys (2007) to MPs (2011) and still kept designing every starscream ever (aside from the MP, ironically). Recently though, they moved him from MPs to RID 3 step toys.
And you thought it was absurd before.
If anyone cares, here are the Movie toys made by the same designer of MP 10 and MP Soundawve and MP Wheeljack and on and on:
Backfire (Human Alliance)/Spike Witwicky
Soundwave (Human Alliance)/Mr. Gould
Starscream (Leader class)
Barricade (Human Alliance)/Frenzy
Jazz (Human Alliance)/Captain Lennox
Bumblebee (Human Alliance)/Sam Witwicky
ROTF Sideswipe (Deluxe class)
ROTF Starscream (Voyager class)
first movie Arcee (Deluxe class)
first movie Barricade (Deluxe class)
first movie Jazz (Deluxe class)
first movie Ratchet (Voyager class)
first movie Starscream (Voyager class) (with Eric Siebenaler)
also, I just realized he designed Animated Lockdown, he really is the genius behind all my favourite toys.
Posted by Randomhero on November 18th, 2016 @ 3:46pm CST
william-james88 wrote:hinomars19 wrote:Yeah, designers are not to blame. Sadly they have to do what they are told within the restrictions set by whatever line they are assigned to. It's the takara/ hasbro boffins that are to blame. Moving Hasui from the MP's to movie toys was absurd.(HFTD Screamer being an exception)
They didnt, he went from movie toys (2007) to MPs (2011) and still kept designing every starscream ever (aside from the MP, ironically). Recently though, they moved him from MPs to RID 3 step toys.
And you thought it was absurd before.
If anyone cares, here are the Movie toys made by the same designer of MP 10 and MP Soundawve and MP Wheeljack and on and on:
Backfire (Human Alliance)/Spike Witwicky
Soundwave (Human Alliance)/Mr. Gould
Starscream (Leader class)
Barricade (Human Alliance)/Frenzy
Jazz (Human Alliance)/Captain Lennox
Bumblebee (Human Alliance)/Sam Witwicky
ROTF Sideswipe (Deluxe class)
ROTF Starscream (Voyager class)
first movie Arcee (Deluxe class)
first movie Barricade (Deluxe class)
first movie Jazz (Deluxe class)
first movie Ratchet (Voyager class)
first movie Starscream (Voyager class) (with Eric Siebenaler)
also, I just realized he designed Animated Lockdown, he really is the genius behind all my favourite toys.
They do the best they can with the movie designs. They went nuts with revenge of the fallen for making them way too complex for kids. That's why dark of the moon was very...well it was what it was. I don't mind the movie lines, they are what they are and I don't buy a movie figure unless it really speaks to me.
If you don't like movie figures just don't buy them. It's simple as that.
Posted by AlbimusPrime on November 18th, 2016 @ 3:49pm CST
Posted by hinomars19 on November 18th, 2016 @ 4:14pm CST
william-james88 wrote:hinomars19 wrote:Yeah, designers are not to blame. Sadly they have to do what they are told within the restrictions set by whatever line they are assigned to. It's the takara/ hasbro boffins that are to blame. Moving Hasui from the MP's to movie toys was absurd.(HFTD Screamer being an exception)
They didnt, he went from movie toys (2007) to MPs (2011) and still kept designing every starscream ever (aside from the MP, ironically). Recently though, they moved him from MPs to RID 3 step toys.
Bell whistles, yes, my mistake. I did know that it was Rid, just made a doozy since I knew he had done movie stuff.
My point still stands though; the designers are not to blame if a toy is bad/ too simple, etc Hasui's repertoire alone proves that.
Posted by Kurona on November 18th, 2016 @ 4:21pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Recently though, they moved him from MPs to RID 3 step toys.
WOW. They couldn't make a bigger step down if they tried.
This figure's looking pretty nice; as someone who doesn't even like the movie aesthetic. Really liking the shape of the head.
Posted by william-james88 on November 18th, 2016 @ 4:24pm CST
Kurona wrote:william-james88 wrote:Recently though, they moved him from MPs to RID 3 step toys.
WOW. They couldn't make a bigger step down if they tried.
He's not complaining though and still finds as much pride in his work as ever.
Posted by Burn on November 18th, 2016 @ 4:39pm CST
Dr Va'al wrote:Burn wrote:It's kinda growing on me but ... I don't feel this screams "The Last Knight" as it looks too "Age of Extinction" to me. I guess I'm use to seeing a different look with each movie and this one doesn't seem to be doing that.
Could that be a good thing, maybe? A sign of some sort of continuity or consistency?
Screw consistency, why start now?
Posted by Va'al on November 18th, 2016 @ 4:46pm CST
Burn wrote:Attempt to steer topic back on track #1 ...Dr Va'al wrote:Burn wrote:It's kinda growing on me but ... I don't feel this screams "The Last Knight" as it looks too "Age of Extinction" to me. I guess I'm use to seeing a different look with each movie and this one doesn't seem to be doing that.
Could that be a good thing, maybe? A sign of some sort of continuity or consistency?
Screw consistency, why start now?
It's a brave new world. With knights. Space Knights.
Posted by Seibertron on November 18th, 2016 @ 5:10pm CST
Posted by Emerje on November 18th, 2016 @ 6:04pm CST
Seibertron wrote:What have they done to Optimus Prime's face? It hardly even looks like Optimus Prime any more.
The sculpt or the paint? To me the sculpt looks perfectly fine, but he needs a considerable amount more silver paint. He strangely has the same paint layout as G1 Prime, what with being dominantly blue with a sliver mouth plate and crest on his head and blue eyes.
I like the sculpt so hopefully Takara Tomy gives us something better painted.
Emerje
Posted by Tyrannacon on November 18th, 2016 @ 7:12pm CST
Posted by Seibertron on November 18th, 2016 @ 7:15pm CST
Emerje wrote:Seibertron wrote:What have they done to Optimus Prime's face? It hardly even looks like Optimus Prime any more.
The sculpt or the paint? To me the sculpt looks perfectly fine, but he needs a considerable amount more silver paint. He strangely has the same paint layout as G1 Prime, what with being dominantly blue with a sliver mouth plate and crest on his head and blue eyes.
I like the sculpt so hopefully Takara Tomy gives us something better painted.
Emerje
The sculpt and the paint. The longer these designs go on, the less recognizable even Optimus Prime has become.
Posted by ubertenorman on November 18th, 2016 @ 11:20pm CST
ugh