Video Reviews for Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Wave 2 Micromasters - Spy Patrol and Rescue Patrol

So, that was actual news?
Because no one seemed to care... :/

-Kanrabat- wrote:So, that was actual news?
Because no one seemed to care... :/

I don't know what counts as news anymore really...

I watched this video earlier today, and I could have sworn it was uploaded 1 or 2 days ago.

Nathaniel Prime wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:So, that was actual news?
Because no one seemed to care... :/

I don't know what counts as news anymore really...

I watched this video earlier today, and I could have sworn it was uploaded 1 or 2 days ago.

Yes it was news. We waited until the other Micromaster review was posted as well, since Emgo does do his reviews by class size back to back, so we could have the entirety of wave 2 in 1 story.

I want that Laserbeak, but Ravage is fugly.

Anyone know what the best estimated date is for the full release of Hasbro's WFC:S Wave 2 voyagers

Smaller than MP/G1 then.

Daiguey wrote:Anyone know what the best estimated date is for the full release of Hasbro's WFC:S Wave 2 voyagers

The code website says Wave 2 is slated for April when you click on the locked entries.

Also, welcome aboard mate, pull up a chair and stay a while. Some of us don't bite.

Until we got news of a possible voyager Apeface, we knew the later waves of voyagers for the Transformers Siege line would at least have Thundercracker and Springer. We did not know for sure if they would be in the same wave or not and who they would be packed with if they were not in the same wave. Well, thanks to listings from Robotkingdom, we now know that they will be in two separate waves and each time accompanied by a repacked voyager. It will be Starscream for wave 3 and Megatron for wave 4. The info for wave 3 and 4 are below and link to the listings. Also, to help those who asked, the waves are meant to line up with the quarters of the year. We already know this is not what has happened but to give an idea of when waves could be found on shelves, wave 2 would be in April, wave 3 in July and wave 4 in October.

Generations 2019 Siege Voyager Wave 3 set of 2 (STARSCREAM, SPRINGER). Preorder. Start Shipping on 1st July 2019.

Generations 2019 Siege Voyager Wave 4 set of 2 (MEGATRON, THUNDERCRAKER). Preorder. Start Shipping on 1st October 2019.

Hey remember 2 years ago when someone told all the news sites how we’re getting 2 beast wars box sets? One maximal box set with primal that’d be retooled from POTP apeface and a predacon box set with Megatron that’d be retooled from POTP snapdragon? And the dude who told all the sites said he saw them first hand because he worked for Amazon and nobody questioned the credibility even though it all came form 4chan and we didn’t know the gimmick to POTP?

Good times.

Randomhero wrote:Hey remember 2 years ago when someone told all the news sites how we’re getting 2 beast wars box sets? One maximal box set with primal that’d be retooled from POTP apeface and a predacon box set with Megatron that’d be retooled from POTP snapdragon? And the dude who told all the sites said he saw them first hand because he worked for Amazon and nobody questioned the credibility even though it all came form 4chan and we didn’t know the gimmick to POTP?

Good times.

Why are you bringing this up now? Is it related to the discussion at hand?

Guess this means Apeface isn't happening now? Or maybe he truly is going to be part of the next part? But if he isn't coming till then (if at all), then why would a site have a pre-order page for him? And why would he be wave 1 of a new part? I'd be very appreciative of someone able to clarify this for me I really hope that the listing for Apeface is the real deal because the horrorcons deserve new figures with new technology, at a decent price and scale. They're some of the weirdest, but coolest ideas in my opinion

Sentinel_Primal wrote:Guess this means Apeface isn't happening now? Or maybe he truly is going to be part of the next part? But if he isn't coming till then (if at all), then why would a site have a pre-order page for him? And why would he be wave 1 of a new part? I'd be very appreciative of someone able to clarify this for me I really hope that the listing for Apeface is the real deal because the horrorcons deserve new figures with new technology, at a decent price and scale. They're some of the weirdest, but coolest ideas in my opinion

We are as confused as you are. We know a listing exists labeled for this line and thats about it. We will let you know when we know more.

william-james88 wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:Guess this means Apeface isn't happening now? Or maybe he truly is going to be part of the next part? But if he isn't coming till then (if at all), then why would a site have a pre-order page for him? And why would he be wave 1 of a new part? I'd be very appreciative of someone able to clarify this for me I really hope that the listing for Apeface is the real deal because the horrorcons deserve new figures with new technology, at a decent price and scale. They're some of the weirdest, but coolest ideas in my opinion

We are as confused as you are. We know a listing exists labeled for this line and thats about it. We will let you know when we know more.

This honestly makes me wonder about how accurate both the Apeface and Astrotrain rumors/listings were. Both of them being in the next part of the trilogy makes a lot more sense to me.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:Guess this means Apeface isn't happening now? Or maybe he truly is going to be part of the next part? But if he isn't coming till then (if at all), then why would a site have a pre-order page for him? And why would he be wave 1 of a new part? I'd be very appreciative of someone able to clarify this for me I really hope that the listing for Apeface is the real deal because the horrorcons deserve new figures with new technology, at a decent price and scale. They're some of the weirdest, but coolest ideas in my opinion

We are as confused as you are. We know a listing exists labeled for this line and thats about it. We will let you know when we know more.

This honestly makes me wonder about how accurate both the Apeface and Astrotrain rumors/listings were. Both of them being in the next part of the trilogy makes a lot more sense to me.

My reason for doubting that is that Hasbro tends to start off with the big hits like Prime, Megatron, or other well known characters like Grimlock and Starscream, and then they'll add the others in the next wave

Randomhero wrote:Hey remember 2 years ago when someone told all the news sites how we’re getting 2 beast wars box sets?

Nope...never read that story

william-james88 wrote:

Randomhero wrote:Hey remember 2 years ago when someone told all the news sites how we’re getting 2 beast wars box sets? One maximal box set with primal that’d be retooled from POTP apeface and a predacon box set with Megatron that’d be retooled from POTP snapdragon? And the dude who told all the sites said he saw them first hand because he worked for Amazon and nobody questioned the credibility even though it all came form 4chan and we didn’t know the gimmick to POTP?

Good times.

Why are you bringing this up now? Is it related to the discussion at hand?

Because once again it’s “hey apeface is coming!” “Hey here’s the end of the year breakdown for siege!” No apeface

I’m just saying that maybe rumors news don’t need to be front page news. Thread talk? Sure. Some rumors are on spot and then there’s ones that arnt.

o.supreme wrote:

Randomhero wrote:Hey remember 2 years ago when someone told all the news sites how we’re getting 2 beast wars box sets?

Nope...never read that story

Yeah dude on 4chan said he worked at amazon and saw photos of these things and would be out wnd of 2017 and people were flipping out. Explained how every figure looked and worked and said previous figures would be included like Legends Blackarachnia and none of it made any sense.

Randomhero wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Randomhero wrote:Hey remember 2 years ago when someone told all the news sites how we’re getting 2 beast wars box sets? One maximal box set with primal that’d be retooled from POTP apeface and a predacon box set with Megatron that’d be retooled from POTP snapdragon? And the dude who told all the sites said he saw them first hand because he worked for Amazon and nobody questioned the credibility even though it all came form 4chan and we didn’t know the gimmick to POTP?

Good times.

Why are you bringing this up now? Is it related to the discussion at hand?

Because once again it’s “hey apeface is coming!” “Hey here’s the end of the year breakdown for siege!” No apeface

I’m just saying that maybe rumors news don’t need to be front page news. Thread talk? Sure. Some rumors are on spot and then there’s ones that arnt.

I definitely agree that stuff from 4 chan might not be the most helpful but the astrotrain and apeface are a different beast. They are listings from an actual collectables store, so there is evidence for them coming. Like someone said, it might be mislabeled. But its still real news in some shape or form and we would rather not deprive people from hearing it.

william-james88 wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Randomhero wrote:Hey remember 2 years ago when someone told all the news sites how we’re getting 2 beast wars box sets? One maximal box set with primal that’d be retooled from POTP apeface and a predacon box set with Megatron that’d be retooled from POTP snapdragon? And the dude who told all the sites said he saw them first hand because he worked for Amazon and nobody questioned the credibility even though it all came form 4chan and we didn’t know the gimmick to POTP?

Good times.

Why are you bringing this up now? Is it related to the discussion at hand?

Because once again it’s “hey apeface is coming!” “Hey here’s the end of the year breakdown for siege!” No apeface

I’m just saying that maybe rumors news don’t need to be front page news. Thread talk? Sure. Some rumors are on spot and then there’s ones that arnt.

I definitely agree that stuff from 4 chan might not be the most helpful but the astrotrain and apeface are a different beast. They are listings from an actual collectables store, so there is evidence for them coming. Like someone said, it might be mislabeled. But its still real news in some shape or form and we would rather not deprive people from hearing it.

Yeah and Brawn and Gnaw were listed for thrilling 30 and combiner wars multiple times through out the years and didn’t happen for years till the last waves of Titan Returns. It even shows that online retailers arnt always correct or a name is placed for a different figure. We’ve seen those 2 alone so many times that never turned out to be true until it was a con that revealed them not an online listing when we saw they were real.

Randomhero wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

Randomhero wrote:Hey remember 2 years ago when someone told all the news sites how we’re getting 2 beast wars box sets?

Nope...never read that story

Yeah dude on 4chan said he worked at amazon and saw photos of these things and would be out wnd of 2017 and people were flipping out. Explained how every figure looked and worked and said previous figures would be included like Legends Blackarachnia and none of it made any sense.

Thing is, that rumor came about at the same time as another, much larger one, that would confirm WreckGar, Abominus, and Predaking, all much later than the rumor came about.

Its entirely possible the 4Chan rumor was them blowing smoke, and this Apeface is just coincidental. Occam's Razor would certainly point that way. But its also entirely possible the rumor was for a prototype Apeface that was still in early early development and then got cut from the Prime Wars trilogy when the lines were shortened. We know things get left behind. And remember too, how long did we know about a Walgreens WreckGar before we knew it was going to be a Groove Retool. That was quite a while.

Flashwave wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

Randomhero wrote:Hey remember 2 years ago when someone told all the news sites how we’re getting 2 beast wars box sets?

Nope...never read that story

Yeah dude on 4chan said he worked at amazon and saw photos of these things and would be out wnd of 2017 and people were flipping out. Explained how every figure looked and worked and said previous figures would be included like Legends Blackarachnia and none of it made any sense.

Thing is, that rumor came about at the same time as another, much larger one, that would confirm WreckGar, Abominus, and Predaking, all much later than the rumor came about.

Its entirely possible the 4Chan rumor was them blowing smoke, and this Apeface is just coincidental. Occam's Razor would certainly point that way. But its also entirely possible the rumor was for a prototype Apeface that was still in early early development and then got cut from the Prime Wars trilogy when the lines were shortened. We know things get left behind. And remember too, how long did we know about a Walgreens WreckGar before we knew it was going to be a Groove Retool. That was quite a while.

No wreckage was almost instant. First news about him was a photo of him with a red bow around him

Randomhero wrote:

Flashwave wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

Randomhero wrote:Hey remember 2 years ago when someone told all the news sites how we’re getting 2 beast wars box sets?

Nope...never read that story

Yeah dude on 4chan said he worked at amazon and saw photos of these things and would be out wnd of 2017 and people were flipping out. Explained how every figure looked and worked and said previous figures would be included like Legends Blackarachnia and none of it made any sense.

Thing is, that rumor came about at the same time as another, much larger one, that would confirm WreckGar, Abominus, and Predaking, all much later than the rumor came about.

Its entirely possible the 4Chan rumor was them blowing smoke, and this Apeface is just coincidental. Occam's Razor would certainly point that way. But its also entirely possible the rumor was for a prototype Apeface that was still in early early development and then got cut from the Prime Wars trilogy when the lines were shortened. We know things get left behind. And remember too, how long did we know about a Walgreens WreckGar before we knew it was going to be a Groove Retool. That was quite a while.

No wreckage was almost instant. First news about him was a photo of him with a red bow around him

Not at all, there was 8 months between the listing and the first picture.

Here was the original news from July 2017.
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... und/39083/

A-ha! i called it! Thundercracker and Springer are different waves!

With collectors needing to get three deluxe Reflector figures, there was worry that it would be hard to find the figure at retail in a decent amount. Well, it turns out the figure will be far from shortpacked. It is part of wave 3 and out of the eight deluxes in the case, there will be three Reflectors, just one shy of half the case. Since there are only three deluxes in this case, none of the figures will be shortpacked. We also have breakdowns of the wave 4 which shows that all the figures will be evenly spread two per case. One of those figures is a repack of Sixgun. The case breakdowns were found on Entertainment Earth and you can see the details below:

Wave 3

3x Red Alert
3x Reflector
2x Brunt
(subject to change)

Wave 4

2x Sixgun
2x Barricade
2x Impactor
2x Mirage
(subject to change)

Holy crap. Hasbro actually learned from their mistake and not only didn't shortpack their 'army builder', they went and overpacked it too. This is great.

Just to be sure, we are talking ONLY about the middle member of the reflector trio, right? And the other two will come out one at a time, in separate waves?

I really wish they had just put all three in one Leader-scale box...

-Kanrabat- wrote:Just to be sure, we are talking ONLY about the middle member of the reflector trio, right? And the other two will come out one at a time, in separate waves?

I'm pretty sure the lens pops off so one mold can serve as all three.

Tresob wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Just to be sure, we are talking ONLY about the middle member of the reflector trio, right? And the other two will come out one at a time, in separate waves?

I'm pretty sure the lens pops off so one mold can serve as all three.

Hmmmmm…… That is a possibility. Making Reflector basically a quadruple changer.

It's just the one figure, but if you get 3 of them, you can make the complete camera mode. Each figure comes with what would be 1/3 of the lens and 1/3 of the tripod. I believe the figure also comes with additional parts to differentiate from 3 figures.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Tresob wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Just to be sure, we are talking ONLY about the middle member of the reflector trio, right? And the other two will come out one at a time, in separate waves?

I'm pretty sure the lens pops off so one mold can serve as all three.

Hmmmmm…… That is a possibility. Making Reflector basically a quadruple changer.

There is no remolding, you buy three of the same figure and mash them together to form the camera mode, they also have individual 'laser cannon' modes

Hellscream9999 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Tresob wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Just to be sure, we are talking ONLY about the middle member of the reflector trio, right? And the other two will come out one at a time, in separate waves?

I'm pretty sure the lens pops off so one mold can serve as all three.

Hmmmmm…… That is a possibility. Making Reflector basically a quadruple changer.

There is no remolding, you buy three of the same figure and mash them together to form the camera mode, they also have individual 'laser cannon' modes

Ao that will make things easier then.
Let's hope the stars will align for when I hunt for them, at least 3 are on the shelf AND they are on sale.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Tresob wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Just to be sure, we are talking ONLY about the middle member of the reflector trio, right? And the other two will come out one at a time, in separate waves?

I'm pretty sure the lens pops off so one mold can serve as all three.

Hmmmmm…… That is a possibility. Making Reflector basically a quadruple changer.

There is no remolding, you buy three of the same figure and mash them together to form the camera mode, they also have individual 'laser cannon' modes

Ao that will make things easier then.
Let's hope the stars will align for when I hunt for them, at least 3 are on the shelf AND they are on sale.

Reflector's Shield is 1/3 of the Zoom lens, and his gun is one leg of the tripod. You buy 3 of the same fig, put the accessories together, and slap one on each side of another.

From the looks of things, Reflector has 3 "modes", Robot, laswr gun thing a la CW Shockwave, and camera body component. The outrr 2 look to be identical to the middle component, just spun 180*

Ooh! What if Hasbro did Relflector in the Selects line 8n his Toy colors?

Considering I’ve seen every figure in wave one a couple dozen times since December, not worried about finding three

Just to be sure, none of you have a Siege Magnus which has perfectly locking shoulder armour on both sides right? I am referring to that grey piece that is supposed to slot into a shoulder peg to further anchor the shoulder armour. Only one works for me, not sure if its the same for all of you or not.

william-james88 wrote:Just to be sure, none of you have a Siege Magnus which has perfectly locking shoulder armour on both sides right? I am referring to that grey piece that is supposed to slot into a shoulder peg to further anchor the shoulder armour. Only one works for me, not sure if its the same for all of you or not.

Both of the shoulder pieces work properly on my copy, the only thing is that it's a total pain to actually get it to lock on. Literally took me 10 minutes to do it the first time & it's not like I'm a weak guy. I'm not the strongest, granted, but still.

You might just need to force it with all your strength, cause that's how I got mine on.

starrhero wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Just to be sure, none of you have a Siege Magnus which has perfectly locking shoulder armour on both sides right? I am referring to that grey piece that is supposed to slot into a shoulder peg to further anchor the shoulder armour. Only one works for me, not sure if its the same for all of you or not.

Both of the shoulder pieces work properly on my copy, the only thing is that it's a total pain to actually get it to lock on. Literally took me 10 minutes to do it the first time & it's not like I'm a weak guy. I'm not the strongest, granted, but still.

You might just need to force it with all your strength, cause that's how I got mine on.

Mine don't, but I just don't bother with them, the shoulder armor can stay on via friction - at least on my copy they can, I just saw the grey pieces as more of a convenience

william-james88 wrote:Just to be sure, none of you have a Siege Magnus which has perfectly locking shoulder armour on both sides right? I am referring to that grey piece that is supposed to slot into a shoulder peg to further anchor the shoulder armour. Only one works for me, not sure if its the same for all of you or not.

I eouldnt say mine are "locking" but they are tight enough to keepbit from falling off. I can pretty easily pull the shoulders off sideways though.

Flashwave wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Just to be sure, none of you have a Siege Magnus which has perfectly locking shoulder armour on both sides right? I am referring to that grey piece that is supposed to slot into a shoulder peg to further anchor the shoulder armour. Only one works for me, not sure if its the same for all of you or not.

I eouldnt say mine are "locking" but they are tight enough to keepbit from falling off. I can pretty easily pull the shoulders off sideways though.

Ditto. Mine don’t actually lock into place, but it’s enough to keep them on. They also pull off easily. It’s the one and only gripe I have with that figure.


What a relief to see that Reflector shouldn’t be a problem to collect. This line is pretty much a troop builders dream come true. It’s not easy on the wallet though. That’s for sure.

Randomhero wrote:Yeah and Brawn and Gnaw were listed for thrilling 30 and combiner wars multiple times through out the years and didn’t happen for years till the last waves of Titan Returns. It even shows that online retailers arnt always correct or a name is placed for a different figure. We’ve seen those 2 alone so many times that never turned out to be true until it was a con that revealed them not an online listing when we saw they were real.

In the case of Brawn and Gnaw those figures were canceled outright. It happens, in fact it happened to several Legends figures, not just those two. Legends figures 11 through 17 are unaccounted for with the numbering both picking up and ending with Nemesis Prime and Cliffjumper at 18 and 19 respectively. There's five more figures there that we don't know about, but we did know about Brawn and Gnaw. Their existence was confirmed later when either the designer or maybe Warden himself said Titans Return Gnaw and Brawn were not retooled from the figures that were planned for T30 (I really think it was the designer that said that).

So I have to wonder, how long would you have us wait before putting a rumor in the news if store listings aren't good enough? Figures can be canceled at any time including shortly before release so why should we hold off on something that could potentially be big news? Like Will said, 4chan posts are questionable, but a store listing should be more than acceptable, especially when they tend to be reliable source. And to be fair we have a pretty good track record when it comes to posting rumors that come true or (in the case of Brawn and Gnaw) are based in truth.

We may need to rethink how Hasbro is handling War for Cybertron compared to Prime Wars. PW was handled very loosely as a trilogy, it didn't even have an official name until Power of the Primes whereas WfC has had its name from the start and it's on all of the packaging. I suspect WfC will flow smoother from one part into the next which might be why we're getting a full wave 4 in Siege rather than one single wave 4 figure in PotP. For all we know part two of WfC will start with wave 5.

Emerje

william-james88 wrote:Just to be sure, none of you have a Siege Magnus which has perfectly locking shoulder armour on both sides right? I am referring to that grey piece that is supposed to slot into a shoulder peg to further anchor the shoulder armour. Only one works for me, not sure if its the same for all of you or not.

Couldn't tell ya. My kids lost those pieces within a week of me giving them the figure.

Emerje wrote:

Randomhero wrote:Yeah and Brawn and Gnaw were listed for thrilling 30 and combiner wars multiple times through out the years and didn’t happen for years till the last waves of Titan Returns. It even shows that online retailers arnt always correct or a name is placed for a different figure. We’ve seen those 2 alone so many times that never turned out to be true until it was a con that revealed them not an online listing when we saw they were real.

In the case of Brawn and Gnaw those figures were canceled outright. It happens, in fact it happened to several Legends figures, not just those two. Legends figures 11 through 17 are unaccounted for with the numbering both picking up and ending with Nemesis Prime and Cliffjumper at 18 and 19 respectively. There's five more figures there that we don't know about, but we did know about Brawn and Gnaw. Their existence was confirmed later when either the designer or maybe Warden himself said Titans Return Gnaw and Brawn were not retooled from the figures that were planned for T30 (I really think it was the designer that said that).

So I have to wonder, how long would you have us wait before putting a rumor in the news if store listings aren't good enough? Figures can be canceled at any time including shortly before release so why should we hold off on something that could potentially be big news? Like Will said, 4chan posts are questionable, but a store listing should be more than acceptable, especially when they tend to be reliable source. And to be fair we have a pretty good track record when it comes to posting rumors that come true or (in the case of Brawn and Gnaw) are based in truth.

We may need to rethink how Hasbro is handling War for Cybertron compared to Prime Wars. PW was handled very loosely as a trilogy, it didn't even have an official name until Power of the Primes whereas WfC has had its name from the start and it's on all of the packaging. I suspect WfC will flow smoother from one part into the next which might be why we're getting a full wave 4 in Siege rather than one single wave 4 figure in PotP. For all we know part two of WfC will start with wave 5.

Emerje

They weren’t cancelled. Brawn and game never got announced. They showed up in listings and that’s it. Wasn’t until the end of titans return that they actually got announced and shown

It was called Prime War by the end of of combiner wars. Titans return was the one that changed names late in the game. A lot of early promo stuff a a few months before launched was called Titan Wars.

Kind of hard to praise Hasbro on this one. It’s better I guess than what they have been doing, but you’re still going to have red alert warming pegs all over the place. If Cog’s been any indication Brunt is going to be pretty popular as well and will sell out like crazy and fans will buy all three reflectors and then maybe one Red. So the remaining two will sit there ard the stores won’t restock.
Then there’s people who buy cases from online retailers (a small market to be sure). They get the three reflectors and two brunt’s they want keep one Red and flood the secondary market with the other two, further diminishing in-store demand for the figure.
It’s PotP Jazz all over again.

@ WillyJ'a Magnus armor question:

Mine is like yours. One locks, one doesn't. And I've tried applying great force to no avail.
But like Hellscream noted, the friction of the pieces clipping to the exhaust stacks is enough to keep them on just fine.

Flashwave wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Tresob wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Just to be sure, we are talking ONLY about the middle member of the reflector trio, right? And the other two will come out one at a time, in separate waves?

I'm pretty sure the lens pops off so one mold can serve as all three.

Hmmmmm…… That is a possibility. Making Reflector basically a quadruple changer.

There is no remolding, you buy three of the same figure and mash them together to form the camera mode, they also have individual 'laser cannon' modes

Ao that will make things easier then.
Let's hope the stars will align for when I hunt for them, at least 3 are on the shelf AND they are on sale.

Reflector's Shield is 1/3 of the Zoom lens, and his gun is one leg of the tripod. You buy 3 of the same fig, put the accessories together, and slap one on each side of another.

From the looks of things, Reflector has 3 "modes", Robot, laswr gun thing a la CW Shockwave, and camera body component. The outrr 2 look to be identical to the middle component, just spun 180*

To add a very small amount to this convo and just to point out the one piece that allows Refraktor to become Viewfinder, Spectro and Spyglass. The circled piece can pop on/off.

tfwiki wrote:Siege Refraktor (thanks, trademark!) is a single-packaged Deluxe figure based on Viewfinder's robot design, although the figure includes a 'chest module' which presumably allows one to recreate Spectro or Spyglass instead.[1] While each Refraktor bot on its own can transform into an "artillery hovercraft",[2] purchasing three and combining them will allow them to form the classic camera mode. To this end, each Refraktor includes a blaster and a shield which form one-third of the camera tripod and lens, respectively.

Flashwave wrote:Ooh! What if Hasbro did Relflector in the Selects line in his Toy colors?

That would be cool. If so I hope they announce it sooner than later, of course that would blow up their 3 per case strategy.



A ToyHax set would be a great half happy

carytheone wrote:Dat Reflector

Okay. I'm impressed.
And I don't think I'll wait for a sale to buy this. The irony is that the total price will be one deluxe shy of my Maketoys Visualizer. I mean, price total, including taxes and shipping.

With War For Cybertron: Siege's second wave steadily marching into stores, we have a new video review for Voyager Class Soundwave! Sent to us by our fellow Seibertronian Maverick Prime and coming from newcomer reviewer Grim Trigger on Youtube, the video goes into considerable detail regarding the figure's detailing in both modes, as well as an intervening step-by-step demonstration of the figure's transformation sequence. Grim Trigger also brings the figure into comparison with his predecessors, Siege Megatron, Hound, Sideswipe and Ultra Magnus, as well as a Marvel Legends Ant Man figure, and admittedly bizarre choice for a size comparison. Unfortunately, Trigger neglects to showcase Soundwave's hidden Lamp-mode, though he does mention it briefly while discussing the vehicle mode.

The video is provided below, so be sure to take a look!



In related news, Soundwave and his fellow Wave 2 Voyager Starscream have both been sighted in Australian retail! Found at a Toyworld in the Forest Hill Chase Shopping Centre in Melbourne, Victoria by Ozformers member jroam and shared on the Ozformers Facebook profile, the Decepticon duo were sighted alongside various Wave 1 figures, so it appears these newcomers are only trickling out as of now. If you live in the area, the hunt appears to be on!



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Randomhero wrote:They weren’t cancelled. Brawn and game never got announced. They showed up in listings and that’s it. Wasn’t until the end of titans return that they actually got announced and shown

They were planned, leaked, wave numbers were set aside, and their existence was confirmed years later. If that is "canceled" then what is it? Things get canceled internally all the time, an official announcement isn't required.

And again, those TR figures are not the same as the figures that were cancelled, they wouldn't have designed T30 figures to have a play feature from several years later.

It was called Prime War by the end of of combiner wars. Titans return was the one that changed names late in the game. A lot of early promo stuff a a few months before launched was called Titan Wars.

Wrong. All three were going to follow a naming theme of Combiner Wars, Titan Wars, and Prime Wars. Early images showing the name "Prime Wars" at events were referring to the third part of the trilogy. The trilogy wouldn't officially be called Prime Wars until PotP was officially announced.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Randomhero wrote:They weren’t cancelled. Brawn and game never got announced. They showed up in listings and that’s it. Wasn’t until the end of titans return that they actually got announced and shown

They were planned, leaked, wave numbers were set aside, and their existence was confirmed years later. If that is "canceled" then what is it? Things get canceled internally all the time, an official announcement isn't required.

And again, those TR figures are not the same as the figures that were cancelled, they wouldn't have designed T30 figures to have a play feature from several years later.

It was called Prime War by the end of of combiner wars. Titans return was the one that changed names late in the game. A lot of early promo stuff a a few months before launched was called Titan Wars.

Wrong. All three were going to follow a naming theme of Combiner Wars, Titan Wars, and Prime Wars. Early images showing the name "Prime Wars" at events were referring to the third part of the trilogy. The trilogy wouldn't officially be called Prime Wars until PotP was officially announced.

Emerje

Situation needed on the claim of them being canceled

But they were calling it prime wars trilogy before POTP title was released. Plenty of places referred to it as prime wars trilogy and weren’t referring it to the third installment

Randomhero wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Randomhero wrote:They weren’t cancelled. Brawn and game never got announced. They showed up in listings and that’s it. Wasn’t until the end of titans return that they actually got announced and shown

They were planned, leaked, wave numbers were set aside, and their existence was confirmed years later. If that is "canceled" then what is it? Things get canceled internally all the time, an official announcement isn't required.

And again, those TR figures are not the same as the figures that were cancelled, they wouldn't have designed T30 figures to have a play feature from several years later.

It was called Prime War by the end of of combiner wars. Titans return was the one that changed names late in the game. A lot of early promo stuff a a few months before launched was called Titan Wars.

Wrong. All three were going to follow a naming theme of Combiner Wars, Titan Wars, and Prime Wars. Early images showing the name "Prime Wars" at events were referring to the third part of the trilogy. The trilogy wouldn't officially be called Prime Wars until PotP was officially announced.

Emerje

Situation needed on the claim of them being canceled

But they were calling it prime wars trilogy before POTP title was released. Plenty of places referred to it as prime wars trilogy and weren’t referring it to the third installment

As far as I know, here is the first mention of Prime Wars as a trilogy https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat- ... ogy-950981

This is over 2 years after combiner wars was first announced.

Why did I just watch Fez from That 70 show break his Soundwave and fumble with it