Video Reviews for Transformers MP 44 Optimus Prime 3.0 and MP 44 Bumblebee

So, err, how about that Bumblebee head, eh? It just looks awful.

The head is the least of the issues that figure has, as the reviewer said, it was a "sample" so I hope the panels peg together better than they do now.

Besides the price and the back kibble, one thing I’m not liking on this prime is the chrome in robot mode. I’m not a fan of chrome in general cos it tends to chip or fade off easily. However, in this case it jars with the anime aesthetic.

frogbat wrote:E sides the price and the back kibble, one thing I’m not liking on this prime is the chrome in robot mode. I’m not a fan of chrome in general cos it tends to chip or fade off easily. However, in this case it jars with the anime aesthetic.

But Prime's grill was shiny in both the show and movie.

Sabrblade wrote:

frogbat wrote:E sides the price and the back kibble, one thing I’m not liking on this prime is the chrome in robot mode. I’m not a fan of chrome in general cos it tends to chip or fade off easily. However, in this case it jars with the anime aesthetic.

But Prime's grill was shiny in both the show and movie.

We need it reflective enough to see Thrust

in making the vehicle cartoon accurate as a deformed vw bug
i would have thought it would have made things easier to achieve
the robot mode without so much horrible looking kibble

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

frogbat wrote:E sides the price and the back kibble, one thing I’m not liking on this prime is the chrome in robot mode. I’m not a fan of chrome in general cos it tends to chip or fade off easily. However, in this case it jars with the anime aesthetic.

But Prime's grill was shiny in both the show and movie.

We need it reflective enough to see Thrust

YES!!

Ultra Markus wrote:i would have thought it would have made things easier to achieve
the robot mode without so much horrible looking kibble

I thought that was the preferred design aesthetic HasTak were aiming for these days

I’ve been on board I think with the MPs replicating the cartoon look, but man I don’t dig that bumblebee. I feel the MP-21 captures his likeness in The Movie much better. Maybe that’s just me. But either way, I’m not into MP BB V2.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

frogbat wrote:E sides the price and the back kibble, one thing I’m not liking on this prime is the chrome in robot mode. I’m not a fan of chrome in general cos it tends to chip or fade off easily. However, in this case it jars with the anime aesthetic.

But Prime's grill was shiny in both the show and movie.

We need it reflective enough to see Thrust

Good point re thrust... my comment was more re his robot mode, found it all that at that price and with all the stuff they’ve included, they didn’t have a matte version of the grill to go with it. Like they did for inferno and grapple.

The first MP Bee is the superior one. Because he look good on all sides. This new MP Bee is only good looking when viewed from the front, dead center. Turn it just one degree in any direction and it's a shit show.
I can say "nice try". It have some nice ideas but the whole execution is a total mess.

-Kanrabat- wrote:The first MP Bee is the superior one. Because he look good on all sides. This new MP Bee is only good looking when viewed from the front, dead center. Turn it just one degree in any direction and it's a **** show.
I can say "nice try". It have some nice ideas but the whole execution is a total mess.

in an effort to make them cartoon accurate down to the proportions they over complicated things and left this horrible looking kibble
i would rather sacrifice the proportions and some accuracy to have a clean and fun transformation

Ultra Markus wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:The first MP Bee is the superior one. Because he look good on all sides. This new MP Bee is only good looking when viewed from the front, dead center. Turn it just one degree in any direction and it's a **** show.
I can say "nice try". It have some nice ideas but the whole execution is a total mess.

in an effort to make them cartoon accurate down to the proportions they over complicated things and left this horrible looking kibble
i would rather sacrifice the proportions and some accuracy to have a clean and fun transformation

They already did some years ago...

To be fair, the vehicle isn't G1 toon accurate on that release, hence mp 45

ZeroWolf wrote:To be fair, the vehicle isn't G1 toon accurate on that release, hence mp 45

Because at the time, they were obsessed with the licences.
Still, I don't see why they couldn't just take the previous MP Bee and reshell him in his clown-car form.

Speaking of unlicensed vehicles, they have no excuses to not make Jazz now.

Probably thought it'd be more of a challenge to redesign the whole thing.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:To be fair, the vehicle isn't G1 toon accurate on that release, hence mp 45

Because at the time, they were obsessed with the licences.
Still, I don't see why they couldn't just take the previous MP Bee and reshell him in his clown-car form.

Speaking of unlicensed vehicles, they have no excuses to not make Jazz now.

The cars are still licensed, including this chibi VW Beetle.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Speaking of unlicensed vehicles, they have no excuses to not make Jazz now.

The toys are licensed. So is the G1 BB reissue. And Jazz being a Porsche means they have another license to get that they dont have yet (you need a license at the individual car company level).

ZeroWolf wrote:To be fair, the vehicle isn't G1 toon accurate on that release, hence mp 45

Yeah, it was better. Because it looked like an actual Robot in Disguise with a real life VW Beetle alt-mode and not a poorly animated and out of proportion waste of cell animation.

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Speaking of unlicensed vehicles, they have no excuses to not make Jazz now.

The toys are licensed. So is the G1 BB reissue. And Jazz being a Porsche means they have another license to get that they dont have yet (you need a license at the individual car company level).

Which brings us ever back to the dozens of popular characters that don't need licenses, waiting in the wings. Meanwhile Takara stagnates the G1 line, fixating on a handful of licensed car-bots.

The Porsche family owns Volkswagen and Lamborghini, so if they licensed two they probably did a group thing for all of them.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:The Porsche family owns Volkswagen and Lamborghini, so if they licensed two they probably did a group thing for all of them.

As I wrote, that is irrelevant, you acquire the licence at the car company level and for each market it is sold in. Hence why there was a period where Hasbro/Takara could release lamborghinis but not VW cars.

Cyberpath wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:To be fair, the vehicle isn't G1 toon accurate on that release, hence mp 45

Because at the time, they were obsessed with the licences.
Still, I don't see why they couldn't just take the previous MP Bee and reshell him in his clown-car form.

Speaking of unlicensed vehicles, they have no excuses to not make Jazz now.

The cars are still licensed, including this chibi VW Beetle.

I think the SD/Penny Racer-style cars being licensed are a bit of a formality, the license for the VW Beetle was active thanks to the Bumblebee movie, so using it for the G1 reissue and the newer MP despite not really necessary (don't quote me on that), why not? It's worth mentioning that Tailgate was reissued, unlicensed even, despite being based on the Pontiac Firebird Trans-Am.

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:The Porsche family owns Volkswagen and Lamborghini, so if they licensed two they probably did a group thing for all of them.

As I wrote, that is irrelevant, you acquire the licence at the car company level and for each market it is sold in. Hence why there was a period where Hasbro/Takara could release lamborghinis but not VW cars.

I understand what you wrote, all I was saying is if they went for two why not go for all three at the same time? From what I remember VW was the hardest one to get so Porsche could be relatively easy.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:To be fair, the vehicle isn't G1 toon accurate on that release, hence mp 45

Because at the time, they were obsessed with the licences.
Still, I don't see why they couldn't just take the previous MP Bee and reshell him in his clown-car form.

Speaking of unlicensed vehicles, they have no excuses to not make Jazz now.

The cars are still licensed, including this chibi VW Beetle.

I think the SD/Penny Racer-style cars being licensed are a bit of a formality, the license for the VW Beetle was active thanks to the Bumblebee movie, so using it for the G1 reissue and the newer MP despite not really necessary (don't quote me on that), why not? It's worth mentioning that Tailgate was reissued, unlicensed even, despite being based on the Pontiac Firebird Trans-Am.

"Trademark, design patents and copyrights are used with the approval of the owner Volkswagen AG."


It's an expansive toy and a well known character I doubt they would have risked it.

The new MP Autobot cars are all licensed, that much hasn't changed.

Takara can't make a proper "G1" MP Jazz without the specific car mode. I'm sure he will get made eventually. One of the designers said in an interview that getting licenses is easier now thanks to the merger with Tomy.

Has TakaraTomy not put out a licensed Porsche toy over in their Tomica line?

Sabrblade wrote:Has TakaraTomy not put out a licensed Porsche toy over in their Tomica line?

Believe it or not, they haven't

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Has TakaraTomy not put out a licensed Porsche toy over in their Tomica line?

Believe it or not, they haven't

Knowing how the Japanese love their metal I'm hoping for a Tony Iommi Black Star special Porsche 911.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Has TakaraTomy not put out a licensed Porsche toy over in their Tomica line?

Believe it or not, they haven't

Knowing how the Japanese love their metal I'm hoping for a Tony Iommi Black Star special Porsche 911.

Mattel has a Porsche license for their Hot Wheels line though.

Thanks to a post from IAMONFIRE to Weibo we have some incredibly well done in hand images of the new Transformers Masterpiece MPM-9 Jazz! There's quite a few to look at but they're all worth it, especially for big fans of poor Jazz's final scene in the 2007 live action Transformers movie.

We'd posted a feature on a video review a few months back and you can still find that by clicking HERE.

Enjoy the images and share your thoughts in the forum. Come on now, we all want to see your photos of Masterpiece Megatron divvying Jazz up. Be sure to post them as soon as you're able to and make sure to stay tuned to Seibertron for the ultimate in Transformers news!

Apparently hes available at toy dojo https://www.toydojo.com/transformers-ma ... m-09-jazz/

That Jazz is a work of art. But 120$CAN is a bit much. He'll be on sale soon enough.

Well, with Prime 44 being yet another over priced and extremely flawed MP figure, it is starting to look like my collecting of “official” figures has come to an end.

I’m still getting Hound and MPM Jazz, but along with 44, I canceled my preorders for Bee45 and Blackarachnia. There have been too many issues lately for me to take the chance without seeing reviews first. I have no interest in Lio Convoy. I sold off Dinobot and BW Megatron, and actually made a profit, so that’s nice. It’s also part of the problem since as long as these figures are bought, Takara will see no need or incentive to improve quality. Thank good for the 3rd party market making them look like trash.


I’ll never say never, as we all know things can and do turn around, but it’s not looking great at the moment. I will be very interested in seeing the next MP figure to be made, as the right character can always override good sense (another part of the problem ).

Now THAT’s what’s crackin’, little bitches.

No, I want TWO pieces of you!

Remember when going official was the cheaper option?
Pepperidge Farms remember.

Everyone asking for MP Jazz... There you go

Ironhidensh wrote:Well, with Prime 44 being yet another over priced and extremely flawed MP figure, it is starting to look like my collecting of “official” figures has come to an end.

I’m still getting Hound and MPM Jazz, but along with 44, I canceled my preorders for Bee45 and Blackarachnia. There have been too many issues lately for me to take the chance without seeing reviews first. I have no interest in Lio Convoy. I sold off Dinobot and BW Megatron, and actually made a profit, so that’s nice. It’s also part of the problem since as long as these figures are bought, Takara will see no need or incentive to improve quality. Thank good for the 3rd party market making them look like trash.


I’ll never say never, as we all know things can and do turn around, but it’s not looking great at the moment. I will be very interested in seeing the next MP figure to be made, as the right character can always override good sense (another part of the problem ).

I'd still like to know how those people with breaks handled their figures.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:I'd still like to know how those people with breaks handled their figures.

Most likely the same kind of people who broke their MP-03. Expecting standard Leader Class solidity while handling a way more fragile collector item.

Ironhidensh wrote:Well, with Prime 44 being yet another over priced and extremely flawed MP figure, it is starting to look like my collecting of “official” figures has come to an end.

I’m still getting Hound and MPM Jazz, but along with 44, I canceled my preorders for Bee45 and Blackarachnia. There have been too many issues lately for me to take the chance without seeing reviews first. I have no interest in Lio Convoy. I sold off Dinobot and BW Megatron, and actually made a profit, so that’s nice. It’s also part of the problem since as long as these figures are bought, Takara will see no need or incentive to improve quality. Thank good for the 3rd party market making them look like trash.


I’ll never say never, as we all know things can and do turn around, but it’s not looking great at the moment. I will be very interested in seeing the next MP figure to be made, as the right character can always override good sense (another part of the problem ).

I suggest retail stuff. Waaaaay cheaper than MPs, and even 3Ps, and less likely to have some catastrophic error.

He looks awesome, i will be getting him, i am passing on Megs, he is waaaay too big compared to the onscreen appearance.

notirishman wrote:I suggest retail stuff. Waaaaay cheaper than MPs, and even 3Ps, and less likely to have some catastrophic error.

HEY, I HAD MY SHARE OF HORRIBLE QC ISSUES TOO!
...Then I take back the 20$ or 60$ figure back to the store for an instant refund.


Seriously, very low monetary risks with local regular stuff and an easy fix if problems arise.

notirishman wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:Well, with Prime 44 being yet another over priced and extremely flawed MP figure, it is starting to look like my collecting of “official” figures has come to an end.

I’m still getting Hound and MPM Jazz, but along with 44, I canceled my preorders for Bee45 and Blackarachnia. There have been too many issues lately for me to take the chance without seeing reviews first. I have no interest in Lio Convoy. I sold off Dinobot and BW Megatron, and actually made a profit, so that’s nice. It’s also part of the problem since as long as these figures are bought, Takara will see no need or incentive to improve quality. Thank good for the 3rd party market making them look like trash.


I’ll never say never, as we all know things can and do turn around, but it’s not looking great at the moment. I will be very interested in seeing the next MP figure to be made, as the right character can always override good sense (another part of the problem ).

I suggest retail stuff. Waaaaay cheaper than MPs, and even 3Ps, and less likely to have some catastrophic error.

Retail stuff goes to my kids.

Did anyone have MP45 pre-ordered on HasbroPulse and notice it's disappeared? I could have sworn I pre-ordered it there, but now I can find no evidence of it even being on the site. Am I mistaken and just misremebering this?

Wait which one’s MP-45 again?

Nemesis Maximo wrote:Wait which one’s MP-45 again?

Bumble

Sabrblade wrote:

Nemesis Maximo wrote:Wait which one’s MP-45 again?

Bumble

Oh yeah. So many of these damn things I can hardly keep them straight anymore.

MPM-8 is soooo good.

Hip-Hoptimus Rime wrote:MPM-8 is soooo good.

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He really is. He is the best MPM so far. I hope the rest of the cons keep up his and Barricades quality

Almost there..



Nah, I'm kidding, it's not my goal. I did rearrange them in those poses since taking the pic though.

(Where's Skyfire?)

Never mind skyfire, why is Metroplex green in that picture?