Video Reviews for Legacy Ev Tarn Showing Scale

This is rather interesting. While the three Legacy Prime Universe figures we had so far were a G1-ified version of the Transformers Prime characters, they weren't a mix of their Prime selves and any other version of themselves (ie. Arcee wasn't a mix of Prime Arcee and G1 Arcee), but Skyquake is a whole different kind of beast. While the toy is still Prime Universe Skyquake, you can see from the images below that both the robot mode and the alt mode are a combo of his Prime self and his G1 self. In bot mode, it's mainly the chest area, but his alt mode is far more reminiscent of the G1 toy than the original Prime jet with only the cockpit area and colour being more "Prime". The rest is all G1, like the rows of vents at the centre and the jet engines integrated into the wings. It is cool to see that this toy bucks the trend of leader class bots being voyager sized with him standing much taller than your standard voyagers.

We all know Hasbro has more than one head planned for each release, so could the alternate head be G1 Skyquake. Remember that the G1 mold has plenty of redeco potential, such as Machine Wars Starscream and King Atlas. And we know this mold will also be used for leader class Prime Universe Dreadwing coming out later in 2023. With the redeco potential for both a more faithful Prime Skyquake and a more faithful G1 Skyquake, would you have preferred two seperate molds? Or are you content with this one mold potentially servicing any of your Skyquake needs? Let us know!

Here are the image courtesy of Sonic Bomber, who presented them with the following blurb:

Leader class Skyquake is really cool. I will say, though, that I may have mistransformed or missed some things here. It is clearly pre-tooled for an eventual G1/2 Skyquake and possibly even some other figures. I ran into several odd features, like the tabs on the top-rear of the alt-mode, which seem to have no real function on this figure. The jet cockpit is also able to rotate 180°, seemingly for no purpose, as it does not appear to actually contribute to the conversion. I am very interested to see the future uses of this mold, and feel like it is a great CHUG version of the original Prime character

I hope he gets a G1 colour version. The altmode’s growing on me but the original was one of my childhood toys so he has a lot to live up to, for me at least!

Definite buy for me
Though with all these potential uses of the mold I'm wondering if I should wait before getting this one. I prefer dreadwings colors over skyquakes, and if they make a zombie version of this guy I'd prefer that more as well

I can already tell this is a figure I'm going to want all five (better be five) versions of. I hope there's some wiggle room for replaceable parts, I'd rather G1 Skyquake, Starscream and King Atlas have heads more like their original figures and different shoulder pads. Diehard Prime fans are probably going to hate this interpretation, especially the default head, but I was never a fan of the original Prime head design so I'm fine with this.

Emerje

Okay wow, this looks really good. I appreciate them amalgamating the G1 and Prime designs juuuuuuust enough to give a really slick looking design without betraying the Prime style too much.

That jet mode is sexy
Weapons look dope too

That Skyquake looks to have achieved the perfect fusion and that head don't look out of place on that body contrary to Bulkhead.

I'm sure I'm going to get him, but I also really hope for a Machine Wars Starscream repaint. I'm sure it will happen but as a regular Select, or Velocitron Part II exclusive?

I REALLY like this. Even with the obvious pretooled elements and the boxer, less angled sculpt this still feels like Prime Skyquake like they have learned from their mis-steps with Bulkhead, Arcee, and Knockout. I need this. And Dreadwing.

I'm not digging the head design on this Skyquake, I'm sure I am the minority on this.

But it's great to see a figure wield a blade with both hands as this is a much needed aesthetic for all figures that have a blade/sword....IMHO.

Looks great, at leader price poimt I'll likely only pick up a G1 or machine wars starscream version and pick up the original prime skyquake. Jet modes small compared to voyager starscream but not a deal breaker.

Great G1 Skyquake, but useless as a Prime version. Really makes it clear that they're going to complete mess it up with the Animated figures. Not even half-assed, they're going to non-ass it.

I can't tell if I like this one or not. From some angles it looks good and actually seems like a solid attempt, but others it just feels like we're back to Titans Return where the repaint is released first to get people to buy the mold twice... I might pick him and the Dreadwing repaints up to serve as muscle for Jhiaxus, but I'll need to see more of the mold. Might just wait for the whole selection of repaints and choose from there

Wow... ya learn something new every day. I never knew that mold was Skyquake in the original Transformers. I thought it was a new mold in Machine Wars for Starscream, and then later repainted as Universe Dai Atlas.

o.supreme wrote:Wow... ya learn something new every day. I never knew that mold was Skyquake in the original Transformers. I thought it was a new mold in Machine Wars for Starscream, and then later repainted as Universe Dai Atlas.

Yup. The OG was Skyquake... complete with delicious GPS.

Skyquake looks amazing.

Should be even better in Dredwing blue, and Starscream stealth black.

This is definitely a mold to triple dip in.

I suspect the alternate head is just the same only with a mouth guard, and the tabs in the back are for the scope accessory based on the G1 original. In short:

With mouth
Prime Universe Skyquake
Prime Universe Dreadwing

With mouth guard
Machine Wars Universe Starscream

G1 Universe Skyquake... What would they name him to avoid confusion? G1 Universe Predator Skyquake? Maybe even Scrash?

He looks spectacular.

Emerje wrote:I can already tell this is a figure I'm going to want all five (better be five) versions of. I hope there's some wiggle room for replaceable parts, I'd rather G1 Skyquake, Starscream and King Atlas have heads more like their original figures and different shoulder pads. Diehard Prime fans are probably going to hate this interpretation, especially the default head, but I was never a fan of the original Prime head design so I'm fine with this.

Emerje

Five? There's more than that but it's going to get a bit weird. Botcon Machine Wars Megaplex used the Skyquake/Dreadwing mold too. Then if you're making Megaplex you might as well make Megatron to go with him. Which is where the weirdness will come in as you'd have both MW Starscream and MW Megatron/Megaplex from the same base mold. Other than them there's also the further different colorations and different robot modes for Beast Hunters Dreadwing and his Adventure recolor. You want five, I want nine. Or at least seven.

Prime Skyquake.
Prime Dreadwing.

Machine Wars Megaplex. Maybe with two heads in the box so you can do Botcon or MW.
Machine Wars Megatron.

G1 Skyquake.
Machine Wars Starscream.
Universe King Atlas.

Beast Hunters Dreadwing.
Adventure Dreadwing.

Admittedly though, the Beast Hunters retool would very much be a HUGE stretch. It's just all that would really need to be done is to change the wings so that they can splay out, change the feet to the bird feet and change the weapons. And...also...change...the...head...wait a minute. The head already kind of looks like the Beast Hunters head. Or rather, it looks more like that than it does the standard head from the voyager or the Cyberverse commander molds.

Grahf_ wrote:

Emerje wrote:I can already tell this is a figure I'm going to want all five (better be five) versions of. I hope there's some wiggle room for replaceable parts, I'd rather G1 Skyquake, Starscream and King Atlas have heads more like their original figures and different shoulder pads. Diehard Prime fans are probably going to hate this interpretation, especially the default head, but I was never a fan of the original Prime head design so I'm fine with this.

Emerje

Five? There's more than that but it's going to get a bit weird. Botcon Machine Wars Megaplex used the Skyquake/Dreadwing mold too. Then if you're making Megaplex you might as well make Megatron to go with him. Which is where the weirdness will come in as you'd have both MW Starscream and MW Megatron/Megaplex from the same base mold. Other than them there's also the further different colorations and different robot modes for Beast Hunters Dreadwing and his Adventure recolor. You want five, I want nine. Or at least seven.

Prime Skyquake.
Prime Dreadwing.

Machine Wars Megaplex. Maybe with two heads in the box so you can do Botcon or MW.
Machine Wars Megatron.

G1 Skyquake.
Machine Wars Starscream.
Universe King Atlas.

Beast Hunters Dreadwing.
Adventure Dreadwing.

Admittedly though, the Beast Hunters retool would very much be a HUGE stretch. It's just all that would really need to be done is to change the wings so that they can splay out, change the feet to the bird feet and change the weapons. And...also...change...the...head...wait a minute. The head already kind of looks like the Beast Hunters head. Or rather, it looks more like that than it does the standard head from the voyager or the Cyberverse commander molds.

I never realised this mold would be so flexible.

Going out on a massive limb here, could we possibly see G1 Darkwing and Dreadwind out of this mold? given the cockpit rotates and there's superfluous tabs on the rear, could they be used for the combined jet mode?

Wishful thinking I know.

SynchroBunny wrote:Going out on a massive limb here, could we possibly see G1 Darkwing and Dreadwind out of this mold? given the cockpit rotates and there's superfluous tabs on the rear, could they be used for the combined jet mode?

Wishful thinking I know.

Hasbro may cut it a bit loose with some cars and jets, but for Generations I don't think they'll be that loose Making BotCon Megaplex out of him is already a bit of a stretch, no offense.

Wow, I am genuinely impressed here. To the design team that made this decision, this is awesome. That is how it should be done. Sign me up for ALL the repaints. Though if you do machine wars starscream, paint the crest gold with red details so it looks like screamers crown.

ZeroWolf wrote:

Grahf_ wrote:

Emerje wrote:I can already tell this is a figure I'm going to want all five (better be five) versions of. I hope there's some wiggle room for replaceable parts, I'd rather G1 Skyquake, Starscream and King Atlas have heads more like their original figures and different shoulder pads. Diehard Prime fans are probably going to hate this interpretation, especially the default head, but I was never a fan of the original Prime head design so I'm fine with this.

Emerje

Five? There's more than that but it's going to get a bit weird. Botcon Machine Wars Megaplex used the Skyquake/Dreadwing mold too. Then if you're making Megaplex you might as well make Megatron to go with him. Which is where the weirdness will come in as you'd have both MW Starscream and MW Megatron/Megaplex from the same base mold. Other than them there's also the further different colorations and different robot modes for Beast Hunters Dreadwing and his Adventure recolor. You want five, I want nine. Or at least seven.

Prime Skyquake.
Prime Dreadwing.

Machine Wars Megaplex. Maybe with two heads in the box so you can do Botcon or MW.
Machine Wars Megatron.

G1 Skyquake.
Machine Wars Starscream.
Universe King Atlas.

Beast Hunters Dreadwing.
Adventure Dreadwing.

Admittedly though, the Beast Hunters retool would very much be a HUGE stretch. It's just all that would really need to be done is to change the wings so that they can splay out, change the feet to the bird feet and change the weapons. And...also...change...the...head...wait a minute. The head already kind of looks like the Beast Hunters head. Or rather, it looks more like that than it does the standard head from the voyager or the Cyberverse commander molds.

I never realised this mold would be so flexible.

That's why I become a bit of a naysayer here. I didn't expect a Prime skyquake that looked exactly like in the show after seeing the other Prime universe toys, but this approch means we don't get a dedicated mold for G1 Skyquake, which already has all that potential. My opinion could change of the G1 redeco turns out to have a retooled cockpit too.

Also, just to lay out all the facts, unlike many beast hunter tiys, Beast Hunters dreadwing was a completely new mold.

Also, crazy coincidence, Kanrabat and I once traded eachother an Adventure Dreadwing for a King Atlas.

I've been avoiding the G1ified Prime figures, but I might go for this one, if for anything to give that gun to my PRID Skyquake. I do hope it gets a G1 colors version, maybe as part of an Amazon Predetors set

Might as well squeeze in a G1 Nitro Zeus whilst we are at it from the mold

I’m really impressed with Tarn.
Not sure where he’ll go in my display set-up, but I’m not going to pass on him.
I’m interested in this Skyquake, but I’ll wait to see the repaints.
I really don’t like this color scheme at all.
And if I’m going to pay the leader class price, I need to borderline love the whole figure.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:
Hasbro may cut it a bit loose with some cars and jets, but for Generations I don't think they'll be that loose Making BotCon Megaplex out of him is already a bit of a stretch, no offense.

None taken. I was pretty much spitballing on the idea more than anything. I do think the mould's a little bit too big to be in scale for either Darkwing and Dreadwind.

I do wonder what use they have planned for the rotating cockpit though.

The original Machine Wars Megaplex and Megatron were F-22s, they should have their own mold, that can also be repainted into Fearswoop and G2 Hooligan. That'd be 4 uses for the mold.

Grahf_ wrote:

Emerje wrote:I can already tell this is a figure I'm going to want all five (better be five) versions of. I hope there's some wiggle room for replaceable parts, I'd rather G1 Skyquake, Starscream and King Atlas have heads more like their original figures and different shoulder pads. Diehard Prime fans are probably going to hate this interpretation, especially the default head, but I was never a fan of the original Prime head design so I'm fine with this.

Emerje

Five? There's more than that but it's going to get a bit weird. Botcon Machine Wars Megaplex used the Skyquake/Dreadwing mold too. Then if you're making Megaplex you might as well make Megatron to go with him. Which is where the weirdness will come in as you'd have both MW Starscream and MW Megatron/Megaplex from the same base mold. Other than them there's also the further different colorations and different robot modes for Beast Hunters Dreadwing and his Adventure recolor. You want five, I want nine. Or at least seven.

Prime Skyquake.
Prime Dreadwing.

Machine Wars Megaplex. Maybe with two heads in the box so you can do Botcon or MW.
Machine Wars Megatron.

G1 Skyquake.
Machine Wars Starscream.
Universe King Atlas.

Beast Hunters Dreadwing.
Adventure Dreadwing.

Admittedly though, the Beast Hunters retool would very much be a HUGE stretch. It's just all that would really need to be done is to change the wings so that they can splay out, change the feet to the bird feet and change the weapons. And...also...change...the...head...wait a minute. The head already kind of looks like the Beast Hunters head. Or rather, it looks more like that than it does the standard head from the voyager or the Cyberverse commander molds.

Machine Wars Megaplex (and Megatron) didn't really work in the Botcon set and wouldn't make sense being the same mold as Machine Wars Starscream so I don't count them. Beast Hunters and Adventure Dreadwings would require far more retooling than I think is realistic for this mold that is already (hopefully) juggling Prime and G1 parts so I'm not counting those either.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:I suspect the alternate head is just the same only with a mouth guard, and the tabs in the back are for the scope accessory based on the G1 original.

The scope is already sculpted in as the middle thruster, it even has the clear wedge for the scope on the front.



The tabs are just for sticking it to his back.

G1 Universe Skyquake... What would they name him to avoid confusion? G1 Universe Predator Skyquake? Maybe even Scrash?

Predator Skyquake seems likely since they aren't using "G1 Universe" in Legacy.

Emerje

I'd wonder if Hasbro might hesitate to label any of their toys as a "Predator" in this PC day and age.

OK, that Skyquake looks awesome. For one thing, it keeps a lot of the DNA of the Prime figure, it has the proper silhouette basically! The shoulder pads are there! the headsculpt is pretty great, I like the new eyebrow pieces from the G1 figure. And i like that the G1 figure influence is fairly mild, and where it is present, it still matches what Prime Skyquake general look had.

I really like it, I think they finally did good here on a Prime universe figure.

Oh also, new pic showing a new combination of alt modes. I guess we now know what Needlenose is gonna be retooled into and what the secret of his alternate use was

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:OK, that Skyquake looks awesome. For one thing, it keeps a lot of the DNA of the Prime figure, it has the proper silhouette basically! The shoulder pads are there! the headsculpt is pretty great, I like the new eyebrow pieces from the G1 figure. And i like that the G1 figure influence is fairly mild, and where it is present, it still matches what Prime Skyquake general look had.

I really like it, I think they finally did good here on a Prime universe figure.

Oh also, new pic showing a new combination of alt modes. I guess we now know what Needlenose is gonna be retooled into and what the secret of his alternate use was

Sooooo what is needlenose gonna be retooled into? Haha

Rtron wrote:Great G1 Skyquake, but useless as a Prime version. Really makes it clear that they're going to complete mess it up with the Animated figures. Not even half-assed, they're going to non-ass it.

Agreed. This is them trying to cover two birds with one stone and leaning heavily in favor of G1 while butt humping the memory of TF Prime's aesthetic.

If it were a stand alone figure, Id be impressed. But trying tonpass this off as Prime Skyquake is flat out BS.

Razorbeast88 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:OK, that Skyquake looks awesome. For one thing, it keeps a lot of the DNA of the Prime figure, it has the proper silhouette basically! The shoulder pads are there! the headsculpt is pretty great, I like the new eyebrow pieces from the G1 figure. And i like that the G1 figure influence is fairly mild, and where it is present, it still matches what Prime Skyquake general look had.

I really like it, I think they finally did good here on a Prime universe figure.

Oh also, new pic showing a new combination of alt modes. I guess we now know what Needlenose is gonna be retooled into and what the secret of his alternate use was

Sooooo what is needlenose gonna be retooled into? Haha

G2 Dreadwing and Smokescreen?
Rotf Mindwipe and Skystalker?
Stratosphere and his drone/gun that was cancelled?

There's no way they'd do those. They're just what came to mind when I seen the picture.

I do like the Nitro Zeus comment though.

Grahf_ wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:OK, that Skyquake looks awesome. For one thing, it keeps a lot of the DNA of the Prime figure, it has the proper silhouette basically! The shoulder pads are there! the headsculpt is pretty great, I like the new eyebrow pieces from the G1 figure. And i like that the G1 figure influence is fairly mild, and where it is present, it still matches what Prime Skyquake general look had.

I really like it, I think they finally did good here on a Prime universe figure.

Oh also, new pic showing a new combination of alt modes. I guess we now know what Needlenose is gonna be retooled into and what the secret of his alternate use was

Sooooo what is needlenose gonna be retooled into? Haha

G2 Dreadwing and Smokescreen?
Rotf Mindwipe and Skystalker?
Stratosphere and his drone/gun that was cancelled?

There's no way they'd do those. They're just what came to mind when I seen the picture.

I do like the Nitro Zeus comment though.

None of the above, this was something the original Skyquake could do so that basically confirms at least one Predator jet.



Emerje

Do I need a medical exam or does Sqyquake have about a big deluxe altmode and a leader robot mode?
It seems weird as hell guys

Okay that's pretty frickin' great looking, I had been planning to go for Dreadwing and only get Skyquake if I found him on sale but I may be reconsidering now. Dreadwing's navy & gold is also gonna look great on this.

For anyone who may care, the source of the pics realized that those forearm holes in bot mode were a mistransformation after the fact:

NO NEED FOR AN UPGRADE KIT TO COVER THE ARM HOLES? WHAT SORCERY IS THIS?

Emerje wrote:None of the above, this was something the original Skyquake could do so that basically confirms at least one Predator jet.



Emerje

Yes I remember that now. Thank you. As I never lived in Europe and only had Machine Wars Starscream, I forgot that was a feature.

Stalker/Soundwave could do that too now that I think about it. I wonder if Hasbro will be doing that as there hasn't been a reuse for Doubledealer yet and those characters were always talked about as potential retools by the fans. I still don't know what they'd do with the bird mode though. I thought CD Red Alert could work and have the bird mode be a throwback to Armada Laserbeak. And/or have a two pack with Knok and Skar as Coby and Armada Laserbeak or something. They wouldn't do Stalker until the line after Legacy Evo though as all the leaders are accounted for I believe. Maybe Generations Selects but I don't think Hasbro in particular has ever done an extensive retool for that line yet. Possibly as one of the capsule figures then? Those listings are always pretty vague when they get leaked so it could be possible.

Assuming of course that they actually go ahead with the Predators and what not. Them making the feature doesn't always guarantee it will happen. But wait, isn't there a rumor for an upcoming Thunderclash...

With the designers saying that proper pretenders are near-impossible to do, I think a Thunderwing out of this mold is also acceptable. Maybe some retooling to incorporate characteristics of the pretender shell.

I've just noticed the homage to the Megavisor's flip-cover, that's so cool!

Bitstream (@BiscapeNet on Twitter) has done a digibash of this guy in G1 colours and I LIKE it.
Legacy Skyquake digibash by Bitstream by Zac Yates, on Flickr

You give us Predator Skyquake then you'd better give us Predator Stalker.

Or I will be disgruntled ... more than I normally am.

Burn wrote:Predator Stalker

Oh, now there's a name I'm sure Hasbro is just dying to use on a children's product in this PC day and age.

Sabrblade wrote:

Burn wrote:Predator Stalker

Oh, now there's a name I'm sure Hasbro is just dying to use on a children's product in this PC day and age.

Didn't even consider that, guess I'm just an inconsiderate bastard.

Burn wrote:You give us Predator Skyquake then you'd better give us Predator Stalker.

Or I will be disgruntled ... more than I normally am.

I sense Burn's long overdue Predator squad might finally be seeing fruition...

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Burn wrote:You give us Predator Skyquake then you'd better give us Predator Stalker.

Or I will be disgruntled ... more than I normally am.

I sense Burn's long overdue Predator squad might finally be seeing fruition...

If they do those then they've really got to do that rumored and then denied Stunticon retool into Thunderclash and the other Turbomasters.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Burn wrote:You give us Predator Skyquake then you'd better give us Predator Stalker.

Or I will be disgruntled ... more than I normally am.

I sense Burn's long overdue Predator squad might finally be seeing fruition...

If they do those then they've really got to do that rumored and then denied Stunticon retool into Thunderclash and the other Turbomasters.

Emerje

Absolutely. Unfortunately Hasbro do have a track record of not doing complete teams or doing them in different styles so they don't match. So it wouldn't surprise me if we get G1 Skyquake, one Predator jet, Thunderclash and a Turbomaster or two and then a series or two down the track other members but they don't match the aesthetic of the other team members.

They're missing the boat though if, at the very least, we don't get a new mold for Stalker, Thunderclash and Rotorstorm (not going to count the previous release) because there's your Machine Wars leaders effectively taken care of.

I really, really want a G1 Skyquake. This is a great design but I don't care for the muted olive colors, and I don't need to build out the entire Prime squad even though I did get Arcee, Bulkhead, and Knockout.

I still feel cheated that we didn't get a Stalker from Earthrise Doubledealer, but maybe it's not too late.

Chefatron Lio "Convoy" Review

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-VqihqjI28&t=94s

Just wondering if this is a hot take or not... But am I the only one who thinks Lio Convoy as a character (thats what I'll always call him) is just overall way better than Optimus Primal? I mean it could be mostly because I have a preference of cats over primates but...

In 1998, I attended my first Botcon, and I was all in on BWII from the start, mostly because we were getting animated representations of many of the characters that weren't in the Mainframe BW show (back then to me, despite the different names and color schemes, they WERE the same characters, until IDW BW resource officially made characters such as B'Boom,/Apache truly different for example).

I got Lio Convoy and Galvatron right away, and always enjoyed them. I never had the OG Primal and BW Megatron (although I did get TM and TMII versions later). * After getting individual copies of Lio and Galvatron, I go the 2 pack set and kept in MIP, I did the same for Big Convoy/Magmatron. Takara did release a 2 pack of the original Primal and BW Megatron, which I intended to get at one time to compliment those other sets, but I was never able to find one at a decent price, and that collection is long gone anyway.*

The same can be said today. I never got Primal or BW Megs during Kingdom, but I'm definitely getting Lio Convoy when he comes out, and if they ever do make a BWII Galvatron, I'll definitely get him as well.

william-james88 wrote:So I got Point Blank recently and, YIKES! That is one rough toy. Big, sure, but that upper half is really reminding me of armada's articulation. He feels really restricted. Car mode aint looking great either.

Surprisingly, we seem to be in the minority on our agreement on that score.