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Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus

Transformers News: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus

Monday, August 25th, 2014 6:48AM CDT

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To help you all build up to the new week, in a constructive way, here is fellow Seibertronian chuckdawg1999 with not one but two of his video builds and reviews! Featured this time are the Target exclusive ConstructBot Grimlock and Silver Knight Optimus Prime (a G2esque redeco of the mass retail set) and the more general release of ConstructBot Lockdown and Hangnail - including armour mode. Check both of them out in the embedded videos below!

While these are the same kits as the mass retail Grimlock and Prime their colors are changed to represent an unreleased G2 design and Target's Silver Knight theme respectively. Still a fun build and Dino Rider Prime has an included sword. Highly recommended.




Since most of the Beast Hunters Constructbots never saw a full retail release, at least in North America, for most of us the Age of Extinction sets are our first look at the new skeleton designs. Much like the Dinobots the vehicle builds, like Lockdown, feature a skeleton built by ball joints,armor attached by C-clips and a spring hinged back/chest for some slight automorph transformation. There has been some debate about whether or not these are improvements or just lateral changes. Lockdown is a fun build that features a more cohesive car mode while its dino armor partner Hangnail adds a fun new degree of interaction with the toy.


Credit(s): chuckdawg1999

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Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1601799)
Posted by joevill on August 25th, 2014 @ 9:31am CDT
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Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1601904)
Posted by Bumblevivisector on August 25th, 2014 @ 4:12pm CDT
I love that Lockdown so much I started army-buildin' with it to represent his minions, but I only got one extra set at the Target clearance of $10.00 before they disappeared. Holding off to see if other retailers follow suit, especially because you need extra Drifts to swap out Lockdown's orange for blue to get things slightly more accurate. And Drifts with orange parts make good Bludgeons!

Not as crazy about Hangnail, but at least his feet look cool as shoulder straps when combined. And becoming both armor AND a gun so big that Transformers can't really wield it makes these dino-buddies the spiritual successors to the Action Master partners!
Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1601911)
Posted by bassal on August 25th, 2014 @ 6:14pm CDT
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Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1601973)
Posted by Va'al on August 26th, 2014 @ 2:18am CDT
Thanks to a tip from fellow Seibertron.com board member Primeultimus, we can share a whole list of pre-orders available from the Toys'R'Us Canada website for Transformers: Age of Extinction exclusive repaint sets, all set to be released in November! First up is the Autobots United set of five, featuring Voyagers Optimus and Hound and Deluxes Bumblebee, Drift and Crosshairs with tweaked colour schemes, at $129.99; then the Leader Optimus with trailer and Deluxe Sideswipe (using the RotF mold) at $179.99; next is the Breakout Battle set with Evasion Optimus in more or less rusty deco, a Vehicon repaint of DotM Deluxe Crankcase and a Sonic rallycar repaint of Generations Skids, for $69.99; followed by the chrometastic Dinobots Unleashed set, featuring Grimlock, Slog, Slug, Scorn and Strafe, at $129.99; and finally, the troublesome twosome, also dipped in chrome, Leaders Grimlock and Optimus Prime, for $119.99. Whew!

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Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1601974)
Posted by megatronus on August 26th, 2014 @ 2:23am CDT
November? Should give me time to prepare...
Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1601976)
Posted by bassal on August 26th, 2014 @ 2:31am CDT
megatronus wrote:November? Should give me time to prepare...

Don't forget the fact that November is pretty damn close to Christmas.
Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1601979)
Posted by TimothyR on August 26th, 2014 @ 3:06am CDT
i truly hate the fact that these aren't retail exclusives in the states.

non of the decent exclusives from this line can be found in stores here.. that's awful. oh well, i guess it just makes them that much easier to pass on.

maybe hasbro will learn from the mistakes they've made with this line.. but something tells me they won't.. they'll probably just get rid of the main line figures entirely for the next movie.
Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1601981)
Posted by Va'al on August 26th, 2014 @ 3:20am CDT
And in further repaint exclusive news, check out the following video review from fellow Seibertron.com member grimdragon2001 of the Walmart exclusive two-pack of Bumblebee and Strafe, featuring a minor repaint of Legends Class Bumblebee from Revenge of the Fallen, and a blue version of Beast Wars Basic Terrorsaur!

Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1601985)
Posted by Va'al on August 26th, 2014 @ 3:47am CDT
Toys'R'Us Canada may have just listed the pre-orders for the Transformers: Age of Extinction Breakout Battle set, but fellow Seibertronian gema has it in-hand - and has shared a pictorial review of Rollbar (and some shots of Optimus too) with us! You can find the whole piece on his blog, and some of the images mirrored below.

He might not be a popular choice and I doubt a lot of collectors would be looking for him. However, aside from the lack of paint on his head (and should've been a different head altogather), Rollbar is somewhat interesting in his own way...especially if you are a mold collector.


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Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1601992)
Posted by Autobot032 on August 26th, 2014 @ 4:36am CDT
Imported the Takara Tomy version of the One-Step Stinger from HLJ and I have to say I'm more impressed than I had hoped.

He does have balance issues because he has no heels, plus due to the autotransformation, his torso weight pushes down on the legs and tends to make them bow a bit, plus his ONLY articulation is his forearms.

He's well built and sturdy. Nice, thick plastic used on this guy. He's almost as tall as Bumblebee (new version) and almost as long in vehicle mode, so he's really not too terribly out of scale. (That really helped me to like him.)

His robot mode is heavily detailed (molded) and has just enough paint apps to bring them out. (he could use more) His vehicle mode is gorgeous and looks nice next to the rest of the AoE toys. The Takara Tomy version uses a metallic/pearlescent plastic to really shine and show him off, while the Wal*Mart exclusive version is just a matte bright red plastic. (Not saying it's ugly, but the Japanese version is definitely prettier.)

I'm saddened that we're not receiving a reshelled Bumblebee to have a Deluxe Stinger, I'm saddened that the One-Steps are so limited in their range of motion and ability, but it looks good and might be the only transformable Pagani Stinger we'll receive in the line.

On that alone, I recommend picking him up. As a toy goes, it's great for a kid, not so much for a collector, so on that side of the issue, I can't recommend it. However, if you want a Stinger that looks like his movie self and transforms, then this guy is your only real option until someone at HasTak ponies up the dough to make a Deluxe.
Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1602003)
Posted by william-james88 on August 26th, 2014 @ 7:45am CDT
TimothyR wrote:i truly hate the fact that these aren't retail exclusives in the states.

non of the decent exclusives from this line can be found in stores here.. that's awful. oh well, i guess it just makes them that much easier to pass on.

maybe hasbro will learn from the mistakes they've made with this line.. but something tells me they won't.. they'll probably just get rid of the main line figures entirely for the next movie.


Which other stores have these platinum sets in the states?

I actually HATE that they are exclusives in Canada, because that means that the boxes dont have to be in more than one language, which in turn means that they are available to everyone except for people in Quebec, like me. I cant even preorder these online since the shipping adress is in Quebec (he worst part is that the actual place they are shipping from is a warehouse in Quebec :BANG_HEAD: )
Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1602007)
Posted by Optimizzy on August 26th, 2014 @ 8:18am CDT
Um...those prices seem way too inflated for what amounts to repaints. The autobot 5-pack includes 2 voyagers and 3 deluxes. That should be around $95. (25+25+15+15+15=95) I know there are slightly better schemes but...just feels like fleecing so I'll probably pass. Shame really. I really like them, but I also like to have SOME money.
Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1602011)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 26th, 2014 @ 8:23am CDT
Optimizzy wrote:Um...those prices seem way too inflated for what amounts to repaints. The autobot 5-pack includes 2 voyagers and 3 deluxes. That should be around $95. (25+25+15+15+15=95)
You're forgetting the cost of the high quality premium level display packaging that also factors into these prices.

And the limited production quantity of these figures, making them even more expensive than the much more mass produced retail versions that are theoretically easier to come by.
Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1602013)
Posted by Optimizzy on August 26th, 2014 @ 8:35am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
Optimizzy wrote:Um...those prices seem way too inflated for what amounts to repaints. The autobot 5-pack includes 2 voyagers and 3 deluxes. That should be around $95. (25+25+15+15+15=95)
You're forgetting the cost of the high quality premium level display packaging that also factors into these prices.

And the limited production quantity of these figures, making them even more expensive than the much more mass produced retail versions that are theoretically easier to come by.


Those are just excuses. Cardboard is not expensive and slight alterations on mold should not incur a 33% increase. Perhaps $10 more sure, but not $35. Sorry no.
Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1602016)
Posted by RiddlerJ on August 26th, 2014 @ 8:49am CDT
If Rollbar was general retail, I'd get him. He'd make a good Generations Throttlebot. Maybe Freeway or Searchlight.

But not Rollbar though. :P
Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1602019)
Posted by Optimizzy on August 26th, 2014 @ 8:57am CDT
RiddlerJ wrote:If Rollbar was general retail, I'd get him. He'd make a good Generations Throttlebot. Maybe Freeway or Searchlight.

But not Rollbar though. :P


I'd like to repaint him as Runamuck and Runabout. Maybe use crosscut mold.

also on my price rant: If those are in Canadian dollars then the price is a little more justified. Still a few bucks more than I'd like but reasonable. I should have checked that before I ranted.
Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1602025)
Posted by NuclearConvoy on August 26th, 2014 @ 9:05am CDT
Are the Dinobots included in that Dinobot set the fully articulated and decent toy ones or are they the smaller scale and shittier ones?
Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1602029)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 26th, 2014 @ 9:10am CDT
NuclearConvoy wrote:Are the Dinobots included in that Dinobot set the fully articulated and decent toy ones or are they the smaller scale and shittier ones?
No Platinum Edition AOE sets contain anything but AOE Generations molds (Deluxes, Voyagers, Leaders), or in one case the AOE First Edition Optimus mold. To use the simpler toys in a collector-centric line would be counterproductive.
Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1602034)
Posted by welcometothedarksyde on August 26th, 2014 @ 9:29am CDT
I reported these ToysRus listings several days ago. Maybe even on Friday or Thursday
Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1602049)
Posted by Va'al on August 26th, 2014 @ 10:40am CDT
welcometothedarksyde wrote:I reported these ToysRus listings several days ago. Maybe even on Friday or Thursday


Please make sure you also email us at news@seibertron.com, or we may miss posts that are newsworthy or at least worth of our attention! There is only so much we can do. :D

Do you have a link to the reports?
Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1602118)
Posted by william-james88 on August 26th, 2014 @ 3:00pm CDT
Optimizzy wrote:Um...those prices seem way too inflated for what amounts to repaints. The autobot 5-pack includes 2 voyagers and 3 deluxes. That should be around $95. (25+25+15+15+15=95) I know there are slightly better schemes but...just feels like fleecing so I'll probably pass. Shame really. I really like them, but I also like to have SOME money.


The prices are in canadian dollars, so this amounts to part of the explanation.

It's actually 29.99 for voyagers and 16.99 for deluxes making it 111$, so the premium factor only amounts to 20$ more canadian.

If you guys want american dollars, this set will go for anything bewteen 100-115$ which may be more digestible in terms of the pricing's logic.
Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1602122)
Posted by TulioDude on August 26th, 2014 @ 3:30pm CDT
All of these packs look great!
Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1602156)
Posted by Autobot032 on August 26th, 2014 @ 6:18pm CDT
Of course it would be the MOST expensive option to have a cohesive look for the Dinobots. SDCC set + Amazon Slog = Only uniform color scheme. The Platinum series doesn't even include the five G1 dinos, they put Scorn instead of Snarl. I mean, what the heck?

Ugh.
Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1602157)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 26th, 2014 @ 6:23pm CDT
Autobot032 wrote:Of course it would be the MOST expensive option to have a cohesive look for the Dinobots. SDCC set + Amazon Slog = Only uniform color scheme. The Platinum series doesn't even include the five G1 dinos, they put Scorn instead of Snarl. I mean, what the heck?

Ugh.
Is it so far-fetched that the Platinum Edition Dinobots set that strives for movie-accuracy would choose to go with the specific Dinobots who appeared in the movie (plus Slog, for some reason) and omit the ones that didn't (save for Slog, for some reason)?

Seriously, Slog's inclusion in this is the real baffler, here.
Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1602175)
Posted by OptimalOptimus2 on August 26th, 2014 @ 8:04pm CDT
Rollbar's lack of paint on the head makes me want to rip all of my teeth out with pliers and sell them for $15 each.
Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1602177)
Posted by bassal on August 26th, 2014 @ 8:12pm CDT
OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Rollbar's lack of paint on the head makes me want to rip all of my teeth out with pliers and sell them for $15 each.

That's going too far. Don't let shit escalate.
Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1602178)
Posted by Autobot032 on August 26th, 2014 @ 8:21pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
Autobot032 wrote:Of course it would be the MOST expensive option to have a cohesive look for the Dinobots. SDCC set + Amazon Slog = Only uniform color scheme. The Platinum series doesn't even include the five G1 dinos, they put Scorn instead of Snarl. I mean, what the heck?

Ugh.
Is it so far-fetched that the Platinum Edition Dinobots set that strives for movie-accuracy would choose to go with the specific Dinobots who appeared in the movie (plus Slog, for some reason) and omit the ones that didn't (save for Slog, for some reason)?

Seriously, Slog's inclusion in this is the real baffler, here.


No, striving for film accuracy is not a far fetched idea. (In fact, it would've made the most sense.) It's also not the point I was trying to make, either. I'm trying to say there are no exclusive sets that have all the figures in a unified color scheme except the most expensive one, and the rarest. Even the general release figures aren't unified, except that they're all crazy colored and that sorta ties them together.
Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1602186)
Posted by mesh on August 26th, 2014 @ 9:05pm CDT
$179!!!!!!
That prime set better be made with gold. Why is it sooooo freakin expensive? the sideswipe figure alone is worth $16.99, prime is $69.99, and you're telling me the trailer is worth $92.00!!!!!?????
And to make things worse the Masterpiece Prime set from Hasbro was priced at $99.
$99!!!!!
And this set is worth $179!!!!!
Eat my stool! :-x :evil: :BOOM: :BANG_HEAD: :HEADHURTS: :michaelbay: :SICK: :???:
Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1602195)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 26th, 2014 @ 9:46pm CDT
Why is it so hard to understand that Platinum Editions are uber expensive by nature?

These toys are as specially decoed as most BotCon exclusives, and those sets usually cost three times as much as these, yet few make a fuss over those prices.

What part of "high end, collector grade, limited production quantity, specially packaged, super detailed" exclusives is so difficult to understand?

Do I wish that they were more affordable? Of course. But I hold no expectations about that. Platinum Editions are simply of a complete different league than standard retail toys. They are not aimed at kids with cheap allowances, but at the adult markets with deep wallets and bank accounts who are willing pay such high prices to get what they want.

Don't like it? Don't buy it. Simple as that. It may sound elitist, but this line is pretty elitist in and of itself, and shows no signs of changing.
Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1602211)
Posted by TulioDude on August 26th, 2014 @ 11:37pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
Don't like it? Don't buy it. Simple as that. It may sound elitist, but this line is pretty elitist in and of itself, and shows no signs of changing.


This.
Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1602212)
Posted by bassal on August 26th, 2014 @ 11:45pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Why is it so hard to understand that Platinum Editions are uber expensive by nature?

These toys are as specially decoed as most BotCon exclusives, and those sets usually cost three times as much as these, yet few make a fuss over those prices.

What part of "high end, collector grade, limited production quantity, specially packaged, super detailed" exclusives is so difficult to understand?

Do I wish that they were more affordable? Of course. But I hold no expectations about that. Platinum Editions are simplt of a complete different league than standard retail toys. They are not aimed at kids with cheap allowances, but at the adult markets with deep wallets and bank accounts who are willing pay such high prices to get what they want.

Don't like it? Don't buy it. Simple as that. It may sound elitist, but this line is pretty elitist in and of itself, and shows no signs of changing.

Words that every Transformers collector should live by.
Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1602213)
Posted by MrGameAndToy on August 26th, 2014 @ 11:52pm CDT
Optimizzy wrote:Um...those prices seem way too inflated for what amounts to repaints. The autobot 5-pack includes 2 voyagers and 3 deluxes. That should be around $95. (25+25+15+15+15=95) I know there are slightly better schemes but...just feels like fleecing so I'll probably pass. Shame really. I really like them, but I also like to have SOME money.


Up in Canada, the prices are around $17 a deluxe and $30 for a voyager. The prices are not equivalent to the US. To me, living in Canada, the price increase is minimal. These ARE Canadian listings after all.
(17+17+17+30+30=111) So really, it is much less of a difference than you think. The cost of paint, the packaging, and the sheer fact that this is a Platinum Edition set all bump up the price a little.
Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1602215)
Posted by bassal on August 26th, 2014 @ 11:53pm CDT
MrGameAndToy wrote:
Optimizzy wrote:Um...those prices seem way too inflated for what amounts to repaints. The autobot 5-pack includes 2 voyagers and 3 deluxes. That should be around $95. (25+25+15+15+15=95) I know there are slightly better schemes but...just feels like fleecing so I'll probably pass. Shame really. I really like them, but I also like to have SOME money.


Up in Canada, the prices are around $17 a deluxe and $30 for a voyager. The prices are not equivalent to the US. To me, living in Canada, the price increase is minimal. These ARE Canadian listings after all.
(17+17+17+30+30=111) So really, it is much less of a difference than you think. The cost of paint, the packaging, and the sheer fact that this is a Platinum Edition set all bump up the price a little.

$111? That's an interesting price...
Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1602242)
Posted by noctorro on August 27th, 2014 @ 4:41am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Why is it so hard to understand that Platinum Editions are uber expensive by nature?

These toys are as specially decoed as most BotCon exclusives, and those sets usually cost three times as much as these, yet few make a fuss over those prices.

What part of "high end, collector grade, limited production quantity, specially packaged, super detailed" exclusives is so difficult to understand?

Do I wish that they were more affordable? Of course. But I hold no expectations about that. Platinum Editions are simply of a complete different league than standard retail toys. They are not aimed at kids with cheap allowances, but at the adult markets with deep wallets and bank accounts who are willing pay such high prices to get what they want.

Don't like it? Don't buy it. Simple as that. It may sound elitist, but this line is pretty elitist in and of itself, and shows no signs of changing.


Here here,
Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1602244)
Posted by bassal on August 27th, 2014 @ 4:52am CDT
noctorro wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:Why is it so hard to understand that Platinum Editions are uber expensive by nature?

These toys are as specially decoed as most BotCon exclusives, and those sets usually cost three times as much as these, yet few make a fuss over those prices.

What part of "high end, collector grade, limited production quantity, specially packaged, super detailed" exclusives is so difficult to understand?

Do I wish that they were more affordable? Of course. But I hold no expectations about that. Platinum Editions are simply of a complete different league than standard retail toys. They are not aimed at kids with cheap allowances, but at the adult markets with deep wallets and bank accounts who are willing pay such high prices to get what they want.

Don't like it? Don't buy it. Simple as that. It may sound elitist, but this line is pretty elitist in and of itself, and shows no signs of changing.


Here here,

You mean "Hear, hear" right?
Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1602325)
Posted by megatronus on August 27th, 2014 @ 1:48pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Why is it so hard to understand that Platinum Editions are uber expensive by nature?

These toys are as specially decoed as most BotCon exclusives, and those sets usually cost three times as much as these, yet few make a fuss over those prices.

What part of "high end, collector grade, limited production quantity, specially packaged, super detailed" exclusives is so difficult to understand?

Do I wish that they were more affordable? Of course. But I hold no expectations about that. Platinum Editions are simply of a complete different league than standard retail toys. They are not aimed at kids with cheap allowances, but at the adult markets with deep wallets and bank accounts who are willing pay such high prices to get what they want.

Don't like it? Don't buy it. Simple as that. It may sound elitist, but this line is pretty elitist in and of itself, and shows no signs of changing.

I'm surprised at all the support for this statement. Sure, naysayers of the sets' prices could be more graceful in their disappointment, but these are NOT Botcon and NOT SDCC exclusives. These are RETAIL products found at DISCOUNT retailers like Kmart.

What's so hard to understand about that?

Note the strategic use of caps. ;)
Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1602327)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 27th, 2014 @ 2:00pm CDT
megatronus wrote:I'm surprised at all the support for this statement. Sure, naysayers of the sets' prices could be more graceful in their disappointment, but these are NOT Botcon and NOT SDCC exclusives. These are RETAIL products found at DISCOUNT retailers like Kmart.

What's so hard to understand about that?

Note the strategic use of caps. ;)
They are not "mass" retail items, though. They are limited edition retail exclusives being sold by only one or two stores (the fact that one of them turned out to be Kmart of all things is beyond belief), and have been giving all the same bells and whistles that BotCon and SDCC exclusives get and which standard mass retail figures do not get. That extra pizzazz doesn't come cheap.
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Posted by megatronus on August 27th, 2014 @ 2:35pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
megatronus wrote:I'm surprised at all the support for this statement. Sure, naysayers of the sets' prices could be more graceful in their disappointment, but these are NOT Botcon and NOT SDCC exclusives. These are RETAIL products found at DISCOUNT retailers like Kmart.

What's so hard to understand about that?

Note the strategic use of caps. ;)
They are not "mass" retail items, though. They are limited edition retail exclusives being sold by only one or two stores (the fact that one of them turned out to be Kmart of all things is beyond belief), and have been giving all the same bells and whistles that BotCon and SDCC exclusives get and which standard mass retail figures do not get. That extra pizzazz doesn't come cheap.

Botcon and SDCC figures are not produced en masse. Presumably, these are. It's like how we see a Takara MP reissue just when a Hasbro MP releases. The deco might differ and add some additional cost, but it's not like the actual production of the mold was limited for the purpose of these sets. That by and large has a bigger effect on cost than a premium deco does.

Please, please get it into your head that this is NOT Botcon, which is being run by TFCC and necessitates higher price points by sheer nature of exclusivity and cost. And this isn't SDCC 2014, where more exclusive 4-packs with more expensive decos, add-ins, and packaging cost not much more than some of these sets will cost at retail.

You can bring up Botcon or SDCC all you want, but it's apples and oranges. Just because these molds have premium decos does not mean they should cost as much as convention exclusives. I don't mind ambivalence to high prices, but your blind defense of them, and odd suppression of those who grimace at the price tag, doesn't just seem elitist, but is, in the truest sense of the word, elitist. And when it comes to retail product, mass or not, that's not cool in my book.
Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1602414)
Posted by Autobot032 on August 28th, 2014 @ 12:04am CDT
A fellow fan, by the name of Jeremy Boutwell, has shared a link to his video review of the Wal*Mart Exclusive Decepticon Stinger (Legion/Legends Class) and Dinobot Slug (Deluxe Class) 2-Pack, on our Facebook page. Consisting of a redeco of the Legends Class ROTF Sideways figure and a redeco (and faction change!) of Beast Wars Neo Guiledart, the set is affordable at it's current price of $14.88 and it's available now at most Wal*Mart stores across the country.

Check out the video review below:



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Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1602417)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 28th, 2014 @ 12:30am CDT
megatronus wrote:Botcon and SDCC figures are not produced en masse. Presumably, these are.
According to what, exactly?

megatronus wrote:Please, please get it into your head that this is NOT Botcon, which is being run by TFCC and necessitates higher price points by sheer nature of exclusivity and cost. And this isn't SDCC 2014, where more exclusive 4-packs with more expensive decos, add-ins, and packaging cost not much more than some of these sets will cost at retail.
And Hasbro itself isn't allowed to also create high-end uber expensive exclusives in the vein of convention exclusives on its own?

megatronus wrote:You can bring up Botcon or SDCC all you want, but it's apples and oranges. Just because these molds have premium decos does not mean they should cost as much as convention exclusives. I don't mind ambivalence to high prices, but your blind defense of them, and odd suppression of those who grimace at the price tag, doesn't just seem elitist, but is, in the truest sense of the word, elitist. And when it comes to retail product, mass or not, that's not cool in my book.
Why should Hasbro be obligated to give us only affordable goods and be forbidden to once in a while try its own take on the same variety of expensive collector grade items as seen with convention exclusives?
Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1602419)
Posted by bassal on August 28th, 2014 @ 12:45am CDT
To put it simply megatronus, just save your ass and end the flame-war. It's a lost cause.
Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1602422)
Posted by Va'al on August 28th, 2014 @ 2:07am CDT
The repaint trend continues, with another video review by fellow Seibertronian grimdragon2001, who was able to find a Walmart exclusive two-pack Transformers: Age of Extinction Grimlock and Optimus Prime! This is the one featuring the Energon Cruellock repaint for the Dinobot leader, and a redeco of Revenge of the Fallen Legends Class Optimus Prime. Check it out below.

Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1602429)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 28th, 2014 @ 2:46am CDT
For that Walmart Exclusive Basic Grimlock and Optimus set:

That video reviewer is not really good, camera wise. I couldmt see shayt for Grimmy's transformation and hyis hands are always in the way when he try to show something. Nevertheless, I've seen enough to want the set. Mainly because I don't have that energon dino mold. If the price is roughly that of a deluxe and if I can find it in stores, I would defenitely buy it.
Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1602449)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 28th, 2014 @ 7:55am CDT
dalekslayer96 wrote:To put it simply megatronus, just save your ass and end the flame-war. It's a lost cause.
There's no flamewar going on. He and I have kept things civil.
Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1602454)
Posted by megatronus on August 28th, 2014 @ 8:27am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
megatronus wrote:Botcon and SDCC figures are not produced en masse. Presumably, these are.
According to what, exactly?

This is my inference based on how companies make money generally, and the specific evidence we've seen with Hasbro & Takara's shared MP production runs. Those measures cut costs, and I see no reason why Hasbro wouldn't share production runs with Takara or the mainline figures. Especially with premium sets that cost more anyway. Is that thinking really a stretch?

Sabrblade wrote:And Hasbro itself isn't allowed to also create high-end uber expensive exclusives in the vein of convention exclusives on its own?

Sabrblade wrote:Why should Hasbro be obligated to give us only affordable goods and be forbidden to once in a while try its own take on the same variety of expensive collector grade items as seen with convention exclusives?

I never said Hasbro shouldn't create high end items. Just the opposite - they should, and I think these Platinum sets are great.

That said, you bring up the fact that convention exclusives exist as if that's a justification for bloated retail prices... and it's a completely different situation. What I don't get are people complaining about the high cost or limited availability of convention exclusives - if you want the exclusive, go to the convention. But these are retail products, and I think it's flawed to apply convention logic here, even if these products are retailer exclusives. I have no problem paying a slight premium for a premium product, but I still don't understand how a large premium (which I will still pay) is somehow defensible just because things cost more at conventions. What??

If this is just an agree to disagree thing, fine. But that's my position.
Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1602455)
Posted by megatronus on August 28th, 2014 @ 8:29am CDT
dalekslayer96 wrote:To put it simply megatronus, just save your ass and end the flame-war. It's a lost cause.

I see what you did there!

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Sabrblade wrote:There's no flamewar going on. He and I have kept things civil.

Indeed! And for that I am thankful. :BOWDOWN:
Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1602456)
Posted by User897 on August 28th, 2014 @ 8:43am CDT
The Optimus Prime with trailer looks like that nasty-ass, stubby First Edition version, so that's an easy pass. I wouldn't mind having some of the others, but since they are in multipacks with figures that I DON'T want, Hasbro gets no money from me. Again.
Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1602534)
Posted by bassal on August 28th, 2014 @ 4:43pm CDT
megatronus wrote:
dalekslayer96 wrote:To put it simply megatronus, just save your ass and end the flame-war. It's a lost cause.

I see what you did there!

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:lol: :lol: :lol:



Sabrblade wrote:There's no flamewar going on. He and I have kept things civil.

Indeed! And for that I am thankful. :BOWDOWN:

Yay! Someone who got the really hidden pun!
Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1602810)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on August 30th, 2014 @ 9:40am CDT
I don't know for how long this has been up, but:

Lost Age Series LA13 Battle Attack Nemesis Prime

A Nemesis repaint of Power Attacker Optimus Prime. And I see s many yays and cringes :lol:
Re: Video Reviews - Age of Extinction ConstructBots Lockdown with Hangnail and Target Exclusive Grimlock with Optimus (1602833)
Posted by Va'al on August 30th, 2014 @ 10:57am CDT
Fellow Transformers fan Rubin Kumar from Malaysia was able to find, purchase and take some photos of the Transformers: Age of Extinction Platinum Edition two-pack Optimus Prime and Grimlock, each figure being a redeco of their respective Leader Class figures. Check out the images he sent us below from te Aeon Seremban 2 shopping mall in Seremban, Negeri Sembilan, and make sure to flag up any sightings of your own in the appropriate section and forums!

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