Video Review - Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Crosshairs
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Thanks to our old pal chuckdawg1999, we have a new video review for you today, starring the final deluxe class Autobot from Siege: Crosshairs!
Crosshairs is a repaint of the wave 2 Ironhide figure, complete with a new head that is accurate to his animation model from the 4th season of the G1 Cartoon, AKA The Rebirth. Crosshairs comes with the same weapon as Ironhide did, though you can give him the Trenchfoot Battlemaster that came in the Autobot Amazon package that included G2 Sidewipe and Slamdance.
Crosshairs is showing up in stores now, so head on out and hunt him down! And if this video review wasn't enough, you can always check out our Seibertron.com gallery for Crosshairs.
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Crosshairs is a repaint with a new head of Ironhide based on the late G1 Targetmaster. Thankfully, the leg panels are tighter on Crosshairs than on Ironhide and hold in place during transformation. All the joints are just as stable as on my copy on Ironhide which is a tip of the hat to the Hasbro design team that in the Siege line all repaints were just as good as their original versions.
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Posted by Deadput on December 6th, 2019 @ 1:21am CST
william-james88 wrote:
How doesn't it fit exactly? It feels a lot like Shockwave to me. A voyager with extra accessories to add to the alt mode which can then be used in other modes. The whole trilogy was planned by the same people at the same time, and its all g1 based anyways. Whoever comes out first feels rather dubious then and the different yearly lines are just so that retailers know to stock new toys. Sideswipe and Flywheels could have come out in Earthrise just as much in Siege so the debate, if one is even worth our time, goes beyond simply Astrotrain.
A question for you guys, I see some people hating on Mirage, anyone know why? I thought he was pretty solid.
He doesn't fit because he's literally the one guy who turns into 100 percent Earth Vehicles in a Cybertronian line, say what you will about how Earth like the other figures in the lines vehicle modes were but they were just futuristic/cybertronian enough, Astrotrain is literally Earth mode in both forms.
Neither of his modes fit and he seems a lot more like Earthrise Optimus Prime with the accessories and trailer component.
It's so obvious he was meant for Earthrise, wave 5 wasn't planned, he's part of the first wave of Earthrise and there absolutely was a comment about what was intended and like another poster says he has a connector tab that doesn't exist in Siege outside of Omega Supreme but is a big feature of Earthrise
Posted by william-james88 on December 6th, 2019 @ 9:07am CST
Deadput wrote:and there absolutely was a comment about what was intended
Then please give a link. I don't get how something can be so absolute and yet no one is bothering to show any confirmation. This could just be your interpretation of something you read, like people who were sure we'd get the coneheads in siege.
Posted by Deadput on December 6th, 2019 @ 9:45am CST
william-james88 wrote:Deadput wrote:and there absolutely was a comment about what was intended
Then please give a link. I don't get how something can be so absolute and yet no one is bothering to show any confirmation. This could just be your interpretation of something you read, like people who were sure we'd get the coneheads in siege.
I don't bookmark what I read, it's just something I remember.
Trying to find it on Tfw2005 right now, I found a post on there so far from a user named tigatron2002 who claims that
not likely, wave 5 wasnt planned, it was a late addition to the line because retailers wanted more. astrotrain and spinister were pulled from earthrise (we know this for fact thanks to early distributor listings), ratbat and rumble were also likely pulled from earthrise along with the battle patrol (ratbat and rumble look significantly more like earth tapes than ravage and laserbeak), rung was probably pulled from earthrise with singe being an easy repaint to release alongside spinister to get both his partners out and crosshairs was likely pulled from generations selects
Still trying to find more info but I'm leaving this for now.
Edit: Here's another older post from another user named JtPrime17
We don't have 100% confirmation or know if they were supposed to be wave 1, but we do have evidence that At least Apeface and the Micromaster Rumble and Ratbat pack were originally supposed to be released in Earthrise but were brought forward to siege.
Let me Explain. For Hasbro's internal listings they usually use abbreviations for their placeholders for their products. For example all the Earthrise figures use "TRA GEN WFC E" and all the siege figures just use "TRA GEN WFC". Lets just say we could of known a lot sooner about Earthrise than before the NYCC reveal. Back in July when Siege's wave 5 internal listings were found in Walmart's system all the figures used the Usual Siege abbreviations besides Apeface and the one Micromaster pack. Of course I didn't dig deeper into it a the time because I thought it was just a Typo. Of course after Earthrise was revealed I went back and looked into it. And What do you know Hasbro didn't cleanup their listings all the way and the original product descriptions listed Earthrise right there in the title. It's been all cleaned up now unfortunately, but listings can still be found of Apeface and the Mircos still using the Earthrise abbreviations.
https://hasbropulse.com/products/tra-ge ... r-ape-face (look in the URL)
https://brickseek.com/walmart-inventory ... =864234039 - BrickSeek
Still looking, but doesn't it seem strange that Starscream is the only Decepticon (not including the Micromasters) at all?
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on December 6th, 2019 @ 10:13am CST
Posted by ZeroWolf on December 6th, 2019 @ 12:12pm CST
If course it isn't clear cut as you could say that they were developed early on for incursion but dropped from the regular waves then picked back up again with Wave 5
Posted by william-james88 on December 6th, 2019 @ 2:04pm CST
Posted by AcademyofDrX on December 6th, 2019 @ 2:39pm CST
Also news staff: I don't care what reasoning you have, I won't acknowledge the possibility of this supposition unless you have a notarized letter personally signed by John Warden
To your actual point, it's totally fair to challenge it as accepted truth when it's just stuff that people are batting around forums. There's evidence to suggest that Astrotrain was intended for Earthrise, but nothing to prove it. I'm personally happy that there's a high level of continuity across the WfC sub-lines so that they all fit well together.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on December 6th, 2019 @ 2:58pm CST
AcademyofDrX wrote:News staff: known faker makes list of "leaks," we'll post it as a rumor
Also news staff: I don't care what reasoning you have, I won't acknowledge the possibility of this supposition unless you have a notarized letter personally signed by John Warden
To your actual point, it's totally fair to challenge it as accepted truth when it's just stuff that people are batting around forums. There's evidence to suggest that Astrotrain was intended for Earthrise, but nothing to prove it. I'm personally happy that there's a high level of continuity across the WfC sub-lines so that they all fit well together.
I mean, to be fair, they could have seen the demand and pushed up the timetables for 2 of the earthrise molds - remember, though new, crosshairs is the pre-tooled partner for ironhide and thus the mold for his head should have already existed and may have been an easy out to freshen up this new wave.
All they would have had to do would be to focus finishing spinister and astrotrain and then make them, and push back earthrise, it would give them solid pr to back up that siege was very successful for them in their earnings reports.
Both astrotrain and spinister have very earthen aspects about them and makes sense that they were set to be released in earthrise, but had qualities surrounding them that made them the choice to be released early, this, I feel is logically the most likely answer, but I would be fascinated to hear an argument against
Posted by Wolfman Jake on December 6th, 2019 @ 4:26pm CST
Now, I just have to wait on Astrotrain, and I'll be all set. I got Apeface and all the Micromasters already, and Rung and Singe are on the way from BBTS.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 6th, 2019 @ 4:36pm CST
Posted by aronjlove on December 6th, 2019 @ 7:18pm CST
AAarrrgagashdgahsdgka, I feel like a fool. I cancelled my Hasbro Pulse preorder and preordered Spinister on Amazon 3 weeks ago. Now he's sold out on Pulse and gotta wait for Amazon to releaseWolfman Jake wrote:Just got notice today from Hasbro Pulse that my Siege Crosshairs and Spinister have been shipped out! I should have them by Monday.
Now, I just have to wait on Astrotrain, and I'll be all set. I got Apeface and all the Micromasters already, and Rung and Singe are on the way from BBTS.
Posted by Deadput on December 7th, 2019 @ 2:36am CST
william-james88 wrote:Thanks for those links and effort Deadput, but yeah as you might have guessed I am still not convinced of anything since there isn't anything related to astrotrain and there is no word there from Hasbro, just fans guessing things and wrongfully claiming it as fact (like that first quote which misremembers the listings). Memory works in a funny way and maybe you put two comments together and remember it in a different way. Plus, the one with the "evidence" for being part of earthrise is apeface who has a cybertronian ship mode and casettes to go with a siege toy? Any logic just falls apart right there. Lets just say I remain skeptical about any absolutes (as anyone should) and I truly think there are just a bunch of toys ready out there for the trilogy as a whole and when they come out specifically doesn't matter that much.
I suppose I'm misremebering but what I remember was a comment from Warden or some other Hasbro rep at I think a recent convention (the one where wave one of Earthrise was revealed)
But yeah, I have no real proof and it's speculation, now I'm personally on the belief that Astrotrain absolutely was an Earthrise figure that was moved up to Siege, Crosshairs I'm certain was just one of those pre planned head sculpts that Hasbro does for figures and they decided to use him as line filler instead of something like Selects or not using them at all (Remember things like Hardhead from generations Warpath?) but overall the rest is speculation.
And personally justification on why Apeface is a tad of a disaster, being rushed would explain it's issues besides the other probably idea that Hasbro dropped the ball entirely with him.
Posted by Fuseflow on December 8th, 2019 @ 3:30am CST
It means Siege sold well enough that they added more to the line, and will probably add more to Earthrise to compensate.
I'd imagine they always hold prototype molds for testing and concept just sometimes they don't make the final cut. If demand is there they'll get to do more. It's probably what happened with those who didn't win the fan vote.
Posted by SiegeFan on December 8th, 2019 @ 9:05am CST
Actually ordered another one to split into the three bots!
Also another Spinister; that dude's brilliant in both modes, really dynamic in every way and the colours that might look initially horrible really are great when he's posed.
Posted by Rogue-Primal on December 8th, 2019 @ 5:19pm CST
How do i avoid breaking him? I've been keeping him in panther mode since i got him.
Posted by Skritz on December 8th, 2019 @ 5:34pm CST
SiegeFan wrote:Also another Spinister; that dude's brilliant in both modes, really dynamic in every way and the colours that might look initially horrible really are great when he's posed.
How DARE you bismirch the neon glory of late G1?!
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 8th, 2019 @ 5:58pm CST
I'm actually digging him so far. I really like the Ape mode, and the robot mode aesthetic is really nice
Posted by SiegeFan on December 8th, 2019 @ 5:59pm CST
Skritz wrote:SiegeFan wrote:Also another Spinister; that dude's brilliant in both modes, really dynamic in every way and the colours that might look initially horrible really are great when he's posed.
How DARE you bismirch the neon glory of late G1?!
Heh, I'll have the late 80s ski jacket community after me too if I'm not careful.
Posted by aronjlove on December 8th, 2019 @ 6:05pm CST
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Look who i found at a local Target
I'm actually digging him so far. I really like the Ape mode, and the robot mode aesthetic is really nice
He is such a nice update. For all his perceived flaws, the positives are far greater. I like how his chest plate even looks like it should be opened to see his stats like the original Apeface. He feels really solid in hand. And as much as I miss not having waist swivel, I'm starting to realize it probably wouldn't have worked with the ape mode. And it is such a nice ape mode.
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on December 8th, 2019 @ 7:01pm CST
aronjlove wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Look who i found at a local Target
I'm actually digging him so far. I really like the Ape mode, and the robot mode aesthetic is really nice
He is such a nice update. For all his perceived flaws, the positives are far greater. I like how his chest plate even looks like it should be opened to see his stats like the original Apeface. He feels really solid in hand. And as much as I miss not having waist swivel, I'm starting to realize it probably wouldn't have worked with the ape mode. And it is such a nice ape mode.
Honestly, Apeface is probably my toy of the year. He's a great update, plus I love the design. I can't wait for Snapdragon to be announced. Granted, the major flaw of his, I tend to avoid. The second I tried to remove the shield and it didn't easily budge, I grabbed something that I could slide under the shield to the base of the post to try and gently get it out, and that's the only way I ever try to get it out. The only flaw my copy has that I can't avoid is that his gun doesn't like staying pegged into the nosecone of the jet
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 8th, 2019 @ 7:41pm CST
robot mode aesthetic is really nice, and I love the battle damage look for the figure. i also love how all the alt mode pieces come together and tab together.
Ape mode is the best mode to me, I love the posable head and beefy body. He is really expressive. The one thing i wish he had had that he doesn't is another hinge or swivel for his ape arms, but otherwise it is really good.
Jet mode is blocky but still really fun to swoosh around, I enjoy it as well.
He also goes really well with his TR mini-Me: gun for robot, ape duo, and then mother ship and fighter escort. Really good pair.
Overall, I think Apeface is my favorite voyager of the line. Prime may be better technically to me, but Apeface is proving to be more fun than the seeker, Prime, and Megatron molds to me. He is really enjoyable.
Posted by aronjlove on December 8th, 2019 @ 7:54pm CST
Posted by Bounti76 on December 8th, 2019 @ 7:56pm CST
If you're out and about, and spot a new and/or anticipated figure, and there hasn't been a news item about it yet, just snap a picture as D_Max has done, and send it to us! Don't forget to post in your state's sightings forum as well, and let's see if we can get this figure into the hands of everyone who wants him.
Posted by SGMLordMirage on December 8th, 2019 @ 8:10pm CST
SGM
Posted by Lore Keeper on December 8th, 2019 @ 10:08pm CST
Posted by o.supreme on December 8th, 2019 @ 11:02pm CST
Posted by Aimless Misfire on December 9th, 2019 @ 3:30am CST
Posted by Dr. Caelus on December 9th, 2019 @ 8:40am CST
Posted by sol magnus on December 9th, 2019 @ 11:13am CST
I've not seen any of the new wave besides him, though.
Posted by worldsgreatest on December 9th, 2019 @ 11:14am CST
This dude, like most of your sightings, has been out for weeks.
Posted by autbotfelks on December 9th, 2019 @ 11:29am CST
Posted by Randomhero on December 9th, 2019 @ 2:13pm CST
worldsgreatest wrote:You guys SERIOUSLY need a general news forum like TFW. Relying on people to fill out a form for sightings or having people contact news crew is just not working for you.
This dude, like most of your sightings, has been out for weeks.
This.
The way news is handled is a train wreck on here and it’s probably the same reason news is sometimes a week or two behind other sites
Posted by SGMLordMirage on December 9th, 2019 @ 2:27pm CST
Posted by AcademyofDrX on December 9th, 2019 @ 3:55pm CST
Sightings are just taking "first" comments in the replies and making them into a post.
Posted by no-one on December 9th, 2019 @ 4:22pm CST
Yerp, way better to frequent the sightings section to track figure movementAcademyofDrX wrote:Is there anything more useless than sightings news stories though? "I'm the first one to find Botbots series 4 in a Target in Arizona!" Good for you? I don't live in Arizona, so who cares?
Sightings are just taking "first" comments in the replies and making them into a post.
https://www.seibertron.com/sightings/location.php
and/or follow your local sightings thread (assuming anyone updates/posts there)
toy-sightings-and-local-meetups-f57.php
Posted by Ultimate Weapon1 on December 9th, 2019 @ 4:35pm CST
Posted by X3ROhour on December 9th, 2019 @ 8:41pm CST
the "NEWS" is a bit late.
??
Posted by Ultra Markus on December 9th, 2019 @ 8:58pm CST
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 9th, 2019 @ 9:00pm CST
Ultra Markus wrote:Did anybody notice jetmode has a face :lol
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I did, and it is quite hilarious. I love teeth on a jet like this.
I'm super glad I didn't take many of the first Apeface impressions to heart, he is really fun. Still enjoying just swinging him from mode to mode
Posted by Ultra Markus on December 9th, 2019 @ 10:09pm CST
D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Ultra Markus wrote:Did anybody notice jetmode has a face :lol
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I did, and it is quite hilarious. I love teeth on a jet like this.
I'm super glad I didn't take many of the first Apeface impressions to heart, he is really fun. Still enjoying just swinging him from mode to mode
Reminds me of those WW2 planes with the shark paint job
Posted by Sabrblade on December 9th, 2019 @ 10:12pm CST
Along with G1 Skyquake and Machine Wars Starscream.Ultra Markus wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Ultra Markus wrote:Did anybody notice jetmode has a face :lol
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I did, and it is quite hilarious. I love teeth on a jet like this.
I'm super glad I didn't take many of the first Apeface impressions to heart, he is really fun. Still enjoying just swinging him from mode to mode
Reminds me of those WW2 planes with the shark paint job
Posted by #1 Signal Lancer fan on December 9th, 2019 @ 10:30pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on December 9th, 2019 @ 10:38pm CST
#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:So I've been out of the loop on Transformers toys for a little while, but I saw this line in the store the other day and I was curious, is the toyline based on any current media (a new game, comic, etc.) or is it just a standalone toyline inspired by War for Cyberton?
It's its own new thing, telling its own story about the last day before the Ark launched off of Cybertron, taking its main inspiration from the first episode of the G1 cartoon, in which the characters had Cybertronian altmodes but retained the same robot modes that they would continue to have on Earth. The second line of the trilogy, Earthrise, will likewise tell its own story about the Ark's journey through space.
The new IDW comics have used designs based on the Siege toyline, but are mostly telling their own pre-war story. Meanwhile, a new Netflix series is being created for the War for Cybertron Trilogy toylines, with Season 1 based on the Siege line, while Season 2 will be based on the Earthrise line.
Unhelpful to these matters is how this Trilogy is titled "War for Cybertron", but is otherwise completely unrelated to the old 2010 video game of the same name.
Posted by Counterpunch on December 10th, 2019 @ 1:28pm CST
I've got my eye on you!
Posted by TF-fan kev777 on December 10th, 2019 @ 1:47pm CST
Counterpunch wrote:I think it's cool when people complain about the availability of free information, especially from those who take time to volunteer it for them.
I've got my eye on you!
Its the internet, I'm pretty sure complaining rounds out the top 3 reasons the internet exists (along with cat videos and porn)
Posted by SGMLordMirage on December 10th, 2019 @ 2:21pm CST
Posted by william-james88 on December 10th, 2019 @ 3:17pm CST
TF-fan kev777 wrote:Counterpunch wrote:I think it's cool when people complain about the availability of free information, especially from those who take time to volunteer it for them.
I've got my eye on you!
Its the internet, I'm pretty sure complaining rounds out the top 3 reasons the internet exists (along with cat videos and porn)
Cat videos have recently been replaced by baby yoda memes.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on December 10th, 2019 @ 5:39pm CST
Ultra Markus wrote:D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Ultra Markus wrote:Did anybody notice jetmode has a face :lol
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I did, and it is quite hilarious. I love teeth on a jet like this.
I'm super glad I didn't take many of the first Apeface impressions to heart, he is really fun. Still enjoying just swinging him from mode to mode
Reminds me of those WW2 planes with the shark paint job
Another reason for me to enjoy Apeface. I love having him with his little mini-me too. The whole package is awesome
Posted by #1 Signal Lancer fan on December 10th, 2019 @ 5:42pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Meanwhile, a new Netflix series is being created for the War for Cybertron Trilogy toylines, with Season 1 based on the Siege line, while Season 2 will be based on the Earthrise line.
Whoa, this is the first I've heard of that, that's exciting news
Posted by CrillanK on December 10th, 2019 @ 8:47pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:#1 Signal Lancer fan wrote:So I've been out of the loop on Transformers toys for a little while, but I saw this line in the store the other day and I was curious, is the toyline based on any current media (a new game, comic, etc.) or is it just a standalone toyline inspired by War for Cyberton?
It's its own new thing, telling its own story about the last day before the Ark launched off of Cybertron, taking its main inspiration from the first episode of the G1 cartoon, in which the characters had Cybertronian altmodes but retained the same robot modes that they would continue to have on Earth. The second line of the trilogy, Earthrise, will likewise tell its own story about the Ark's journey through space.
The new IDW comics have used designs based on the Siege toyline, but are mostly telling their own pre-war story. Meanwhile, a new Netflix series is being created for the War for Cybertron Trilogy toylines, with Season 1 based on the Siege line, while Season 2 will be based on the Earthrise line.
Unhelpful to these matters is how this Trilogy is titled "War for Cybertron", but is otherwise completely unrelated to the old 2010 video game of the same name.
Do you have a source for the Netflix show? I'm interested for sure.