Video Review - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Brawl

Insurgent wrote:The review says it's a new gun, but it looks like the same flamethrower as Firefly/Slingshot to me. Anyone able to confirm if it's new or not? Can't see it clearly on this screen.

I had to dig out my weapons for the Aerialbots. I was mistaken in the video, they are reused weapons. Sorry for the confusion

optibotimus wrote:

Insurgent wrote:The review says it's a new gun, but it looks like the same flamethrower as Firefly/Slingshot to me. Anyone able to confirm if it's new or not? Can't see it clearly on this screen.

I had to dig out my weapons for the Aerialbots. I was mistaken in the video, they are reused weapons. Sorry for the confusion

Actually, it IS new. It has a hole on the bottom of the foot, used to plug in to the top of Brawl. You can clearly see there is a peg to flip up from the back of the turret that the foot can plug into like the one on top of Rook.

Also, I am in utter disbelief that the torso would not lock into place. It looked like it wasn;t clicked back far enough.

Scottywan82 wrote:

optibotimus wrote:

Insurgent wrote:The review says it's a new gun, but it looks like the same flamethrower as Firefly/Slingshot to me. Anyone able to confirm if it's new or not? Can't see it clearly on this screen.

I had to dig out my weapons for the Aerialbots. I was mistaken in the video, they are reused weapons. Sorry for the confusion

Actually, it IS new. It has a hole on the bottom of the foot, used to plug in to the top of Brawl. You can clearly see there is a peg to flip up from the back of the turret that the foot can plug into like the one on top of Rook.

Also, I am in utter disbelief that the torso would not lock into place. It looked like it wasn;t clicked back far enough.

We were talking about the Blastoff review, and just the gun, not the hand/foot gun (even though for Blastoff they are both the same)

carytheone wrote:

Optimizzy wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

Optimizzy wrote: Although I like Rook and Hasbros Blast-off, I'd like the option to also have Deluxe Groove and G1 Blast-off

I think you will. I feel pretty confident that Hasbro will do to Takara Groove and Blastoff, what they did with Brake-Neck and Quickslinger. Speculation of course, but it seems logical.

I had heard the rumor that one of the reasons deluxe Groove was out of Hasbro's hands was that it incorporated clear plastic, putting it out of the standard deluxe price point. Don't know if The true or how much clear plastic offsets the cost, just what I remember hearing.

Ugh. I could see that being the case.

Believe me, I hope that doesn't end up being the case. When this same year they distributed two exclusives through online retailers fairly successfully, I find it hard to believe that they could find a way to get these two out.

It'd be one thing if it was just a Japanese exclusive, but a group-only mall exclusive? THAT'S low.

Id be fine for it to be painted opaque plastic. I'd prefer clear but whatever it takes to get the mold.

It's probably not the clear plastic that's the problem, it probably the assembly of a seperate piece. I thought the same thing at first. It would be less expensive if the windshield was injection molded the same time as the parts it connects with. Then it would only need a slap of paint.

If it cost more to produce, I'd be willing pay more the difference for that sweet mold, but how much? $2-3 more at the most seems fair. Any other thoughts on the offset production cost for that extra piece adds?

And isn't there a few other extra transparent lights on the tail end?

Yes, I believe so... and maybe his guns too?

Edit to fix and say...

Well, part of his guns. Not exactly sure what's going on there.

Cobotron wrote:

carytheone wrote:

Optimizzy wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

Optimizzy wrote: Although I like Rook and Hasbros Blast-off, I'd like the option to also have Deluxe Groove and G1 Blast-off

I think you will. I feel pretty confident that Hasbro will do to Takara Groove and Blastoff, what they did with Brake-Neck and Quickslinger. Speculation of course, but it seems logical.

I had heard the rumor that one of the reasons deluxe Groove was out of Hasbro's hands was that it incorporated clear plastic, putting it out of the standard deluxe price point. Don't know if The true or how much clear plastic offsets the cost, just what I remember hearing.

Ugh. I could see that being the case.

Believe me, I hope that doesn't end up being the case. When this same year they distributed two exclusives through online retailers fairly successfully, I find it hard to believe that they could find a way to get these two out.

It'd be one thing if it was just a Japanese exclusive, but a group-only mall exclusive? THAT'S low.

Id be fine for it to be painted opaque plastic. I'd prefer clear but whatever it takes to get the mold.

It's probably not the clear plastic that's the problem, it probably the assembly of a seperate piece. I thought the same thing at first. It would be less expensive if the windshield was injection molded the same time as the parts it connects with. Then it would only need a slap of paint.

If it cost more to produce, I'd be willing pay more the difference for that sweet mold, but how much? $2-3 more at the most seems fair. Any other thoughts on the offset production cost for that extra piece adds?

And isn't there a few other extra transparent lights on the tail end?

Yes, I believe so... and maybe his guns too?

Edit to fix and say...

Well, part of his guns. Not exactly sure what's going on there.

Yeah, it ain't rocket science, just mold the parts in white plastic. It can be that simple, anything else is hasbro just being stingy

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

carytheone wrote:It's probably not the clear plastic that's the problem, it probably the assembly of a seperate piece. I thought the same thing at first. It would be less expensive if the windshield was injection molded the same time as the parts it connects with. Then it would only need a slap of paint.

If it cost more to produce, I'd be willing pay more the difference for that sweet mold, but how much? $2-3 more at the most seems fair. Any other thoughts on the offset production cost for that extra piece adds?

And isn't there a few other extra transparent lights on the tail end?

Yes, I believe so... and maybe his guns too?

Edit to fix and say...

Well, part of his guns. Not exactly sure what's going on there.

Yeah, it ain't rocket science, just mold the parts in white plastic. It can be that simple, anything else is hasbro just being stingy

It would still be an extra assembly step though. Profits are the name of the game.

Question I'm wondering is: if deluxe Groove is released separately, how much are you willing to pay for extra engineering (if that is the case here)? I'm thinking 18-20$; it's a pretty dope mold and I loves me some motoslickle robits.

Seeing as how I paid $21 dullars for Quakerslacker, I'd pay $20 for a cewl motoslickle robit.

groove is so well designed Id pay $25 for him, even if they do the whole exclusive thing

Optimizzy wrote:groove is so well designed Id pay $25 for him, even if they do the whole exclusive thing

I think $25 would be my upper limit. And I'd have to be able to work out free shipping at that price or that include shipping.

I was able to get free shipping for QS and BN via Amazon when those first went live.

carytheone wrote:

Optimizzy wrote:groove is so well designed Id pay $25 for him, even if they do the whole exclusive thing

I think $25 would be my upper limit. And I'd have to be able to work out free shipping at that price or that include shipping.

I was able to get free shipping for QS and BN via Amazon when those first went live.

I paid more for both of them but it was worth it to me. I'm more interested with actually being able to get them without buying a whole set

carytheone wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

carytheone wrote:It's probably not the clear plastic that's the problem, it probably the assembly of a seperate piece. I thought the same thing at first. It would be less expensive if the windshield was injection molded the same time as the parts it connects with. Then it would only need a slap of paint.

If it cost more to produce, I'd be willing pay more the difference for that sweet mold, but how much? $2-3 more at the most seems fair. Any other thoughts on the offset production cost for that extra piece adds?

And isn't there a few other extra transparent lights on the tail end?

Yes, I believe so... and maybe his guns too?

Edit to fix and say...

Well, part of his guns. Not exactly sure what's going on there.

Yeah, it ain't rocket science, just mold the parts in white plastic. It can be that simple, anything else is hasbro just being stingy

It would still be an extra assembly step though. Profits are the name of the game.

Question I'm wondering is: if deluxe Groove is released separately, how much are you willing to pay for extra engineering (if that is the case here)? I'm thinking 18-20$; it's a pretty dope mold and I loves me some motoslickle robits.

Plus it would make a custom Renegades Combiner I've been thinking about feasible.

Shuttershock wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

padfoo wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Glad he's a jet, love the colors, BUT he could've used more paint, not too happy that there's no remolding

Blast off makes a lot of sense as a jet. The space shuttle was just too dang big of an alt mode.

There's supposed to be a military type Spaceshuttle that isn't the size of the default "Astrotrain" type. And if you follow the original show, Blastoff never served to transport the Combaticons. He just pulled the asteroid they were exiled to remember? Now if he was a mass shifter like Astrotrain, he would have had got his buddies in him.

So the oversized Blastoff argument does not hold water.

Well, there was that ONE time...



Then again, that scene also has all the Combaticons AND Bruticus in the same shot, so I guess we'll call it a wash.

Basically, it depends on how much you're willing to spend on a (rumored) shuttle, as opposed to the more widely available jet. I'll be happy with the domestic release.

WAIT, is that a little Bruticus??? Who is that little Bruticus bot running alongside the other Combaticons???

SillySpringer wrote:WAIT, is that a little Bruticus??? Who is that little Bruticus bot running alongside the other Combaticons???

Nothing to see here, move along. Too many questions and the fiction falls apart. Just like scale only exists if you believe it does. You wouldn't want to be responsible for killing Tinkerbell would you?

SillySpringer wrote:WAIT, is that a little Bruticus??? Who is that little Bruticus bot running alongside the other Combaticons???

Good old G1 animation errors. That's Bruticus (probably intended to be Onslaught) along with Swindle and Brawl (Bruticus's legs) running into a giant Blast Off (probably meant to be Astrotrain), who is Bruticus's arm. Don't think too much about it, it happened a lot. The G1 cartoon is notorious for these mistakes.


Further reading: http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Animation_error

That Bot wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

That Bot wrote:

I love that picture. Sadly though it really reinforces how that CW Blastoff looks nothing like the character model from the sunbow cartoon.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

padfoo wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Glad he's a jet, love the colors, BUT he could've used more paint, not too happy that there's no remolding

Blast off makes a lot of sense as a jet. The space shuttle was just too dang big of an alt mode.

There's supposed to be a military type Spaceshuttle that isn't the size of the default "Astrotrain" type. And if you follow the original show, Blastoff never served to transport the Combaticons. He just pulled the asteroid they were exiled to remember? Now if he was a mass shifter like Astrotrain, he would have had got his buddies in him.

So the oversized Blastoff argument does not hold water.

Well, there was that ONE time...



Then again, that scene also has all the Combaticons AND Bruticus in the same shot, so I guess we'll call it a wash.

Basically, it depends on how much you're willing to spend on a (rumored) shuttle, as opposed to the more widely available jet. I'll be happy with the domestic release.

If you look close enough, Bruticus is running to hop into Blastoff (who is the arm of said Bruticus)

Blastoffception!

I finally watched Optimbotimus' review and i must say, I am really digging those zoom shots. Wow, that is some nice production value and it shows that he really cares that we know exactly what is up with the toy.

One thing though, seeing that waist issue I really hope we do not get that Ramhorn retool as Nosecone. Not only would it be a pathetically small nosecone but I would want to avoid that waist as much as possible.

william-james88 wrote:One thing though, seeing that waist issue I really hope we do not get that Ramhorn retool as Nosecone. Not only would it be a pathetically small nosecone but I would want to avoid that waist as much as possible.

I don't know, I feel like he wasn't doing something right in the transformation. That little clip on the waist should tab into SOMETHING I don't think they'd put it on there just for fun.

william-james88 wrote:I finally watched Optimbotimus' review and i must say, I am really digging those zoom shots. Wow, that is some nice production value and it shows that he really cares that we know exactly what is up with the toy.

One thing though, seeing that waist issue I really hope we do not get that Ramhorn retool as Nosecone. Not only would it be a pathetically small nosecone but I would want to avoid that waist as much as possible.

Very true, but at the same time there could be another issue there that we cannot see or that Opt may be having issues with. The waist could be good for all we know, it's just this figure had issues or there is extra fiddling needed that he just didn't fenangle right

steals_your_goats wrote:

william-james88 wrote:One thing though, seeing that waist issue I really hope we do not get that Ramhorn retool as Nosecone. Not only would it be a pathetically small nosecone but I would want to avoid that waist as much as possible.

I don't know, I feel like he wasn't doing something right in the transformation. That little clip on the waist should tab into SOMETHING I don't think they'd put it on there just for fun.

There HAS to be something he missed; if not the botcon thread is withholding a nasty surprise

william-james88 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

That Bot wrote:

I love that picture. Sadly though it really reinforces how that CW Blastoff looks nothing like the character model from the sunbow cartoon.

THAT'S supposed to be blast-off

I thought it was mindwipe or something based on his arms, wow, the g1 toy definitely did it no favors

Hellscream9999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

That Bot wrote:

I love that picture. Sadly though it really reinforces how that CW Blastoff looks nothing like the character model from the sunbow cartoon.

THAT'S supposed to be blast-off

I thought it was mindwipe or something based on his arms, wow, the g1 toy definitely did it no favors

Nope, but Takara totally is, look at the beautiful arms in the toy sketches:



I am praying to multiple gods that this issue isnt a TTmall exclusive.

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

That Bot wrote:

I love that picture. Sadly though it really reinforces how that CW Blastoff looks nothing like the character model from the sunbow cartoon.

THAT'S supposed to be blast-off

I thought it was mindwipe or something based on his arms, wow, the g1 toy definitely did it no favors

Nope, but Takara totally is, look at the beautiful arms in the toy sketches:



I am praying to multiple gods that this issue isnt a TTmall exclusive.

It absolutely will be; or maybe they'll switch things up, paint a monkey on it, and sell the deluxe for $200 alongside optimus primal

I don't mean to throw the conversation off the Combaticons, but I have a question: how many of you consider the CW figures as "G1" as far as them being designed after the originals, as well as having their names/characters? What I mean is, if a casual fan asks you, "do you have any toys of G1 characters?" you can just point to the CW figures.

Rodimus Prime wrote:I don't mean to throw the conversation off the Combaticons, but I have a question: how many of you consider the CW figures as "G1" as far as them being designed after the originals, as well as having their names/characters? What I mean is, if a casual fan asks you, "do you have any toys of G1 characters?" you can just point to the CW figures.

Yes, I consider them G1, though I feel the Arialbots and Protectobots are more representations of them in the show while the stunticons are more using the neo classic aesthetic of not respecting alt modes and making them more contemporary.

Rodimus Prime wrote:I don't mean to throw the conversation off the Combaticons, but I have a question: how many of you consider the CW figures as "G1" as far as them being designed after the originals, as well as having their names/characters? What I mean is, if a casual fan asks you, "do you have any toys of G1 characters?" you can just point to the CW figures.

I'd say so. I mean, wasn't that the point of these guys? They're as G1 as possible (within the confines of hasbro's set guidelines for developing these figures) while updating every aspect of them.

Scottywan82 wrote:

optibotimus wrote:

Insurgent wrote:The review says it's a new gun, but it looks like the same flamethrower as Firefly/Slingshot to me. Anyone able to confirm if it's new or not? Can't see it clearly on this screen.

I had to dig out my weapons for the Aerialbots. I was mistaken in the video, they are reused weapons. Sorry for the confusion

Actually, it IS new. It has a hole on the bottom of the foot, used to plug in to the top of Brawl. You can clearly see there is a peg to flip up from the back of the turret that the foot can plug into like the one on top of Rook.

Also, I am in utter disbelief that the torso would not lock into place. It looked like it wasn;t clicked back far enough.

I have to second this. Are we absolutely sure that it doesn't accordion in? It really looks like it should...

RAcast wrote:

Scottywan82 wrote:

optibotimus wrote:

Insurgent wrote:The review says it's a new gun, but it looks like the same flamethrower as Firefly/Slingshot to me. Anyone able to confirm if it's new or not? Can't see it clearly on this screen.

I had to dig out my weapons for the Aerialbots. I was mistaken in the video, they are reused weapons. Sorry for the confusion

Actually, it IS new. It has a hole on the bottom of the foot, used to plug in to the top of Brawl. You can clearly see there is a peg to flip up from the back of the turret that the foot can plug into like the one on top of Rook.

Also, I am in utter disbelief that the torso would not lock into place. It looked like it wasn;t clicked back far enough.

I have to second this. Are we absolutely sure that it doesn't accordion in? It really looks like it should...

No, we aren't, it's the only review of the figure so far...

Rodimus Prime wrote:I don't mean to throw the conversation off the Combaticons, but I have a question: how many of you consider the CW figures as "G1" as far as them being designed after the originals, as well as having their names/characters? What I mean is, if a casual fan asks you, "do you have any toys of G1 characters?" you can just point to the CW figures.

Well, yes, of course they are designed after the original G1 characters. Some of the CW line does tilt more towards the current IDW comics. I'm not a comic or G1 historian so I'm not sure if there is a line or where it's drawn, when something technically stops being "G1".

But the way you worded the question

What I mean is, if a casual fan asks you, "do you have any toys of G1 characters?"

Leaves it pretty opened ended. Would I consider them toys of G1 characters. Well yes, but so are my Loyal Subject figures. An Optimus Prime plush would be a toy of a G1 character.

To the best of my limited TF knowledge the CW toys are based on the current comics that are based on the "G1" stories (comics and TV?).

So Rodster, what are your driving at here? I feel there is more to this discussion than meets the eys...

Ya, I'm leaning towards Cary's answers/questions. If I was asked if I have any toys of G1 characters, I would make a big sweeping motion with my arms in the direction of my entire collection. If I was asked, do you have any G1 toys, I would point to a specific shelf.

I feel like CW is right in line with what started with Classics. Some call it updated, or neo, or re-imagined. There is no doubt that CW is heavily G1 based in design. Leaning hard on IDW aesthetic for some characters and defaulting to the G1 toys for others.

I would like to hear more about what you are getting at Rodders.

Rodimus Prime wrote:I don't mean to throw the conversation off the Combaticons, but I have a question: how many of you consider the CW figures as "G1" as far as them being designed after the originals, as well as having their names/characters? What I mean is, if a casual fan asks you, "do you have any toys of G1 characters?" you can just point to the CW figures.

I consider them G1. If things were the exact same as G1 then we would get blocks with some articulation and some nice heads. But these guys take the blockiness and turn it into different shapes that look more like formed up beings. Plus they have beautiful heads. And they are based on G1 characters from IDW, so all around they are G1 to me

in the the world of transformers scale doesnt matter
i was told that fortress maximus was so huge that he was way bigger than metroplex but some how cerebros was about the same size as optimus prime that would make for a tiny head, right! unless you forget scale
so some how everything just magically fits together. maybe blastoff is a regular size space shuttle and some how magically fits as an arm for bruticus if that's how it is so be it!

Someone posted this pic on twitter of how betatron would look combined in finalized production:



Also, for this whole Blastoff discussion, everyone is free to like and preffer something, or to be happy with what they have. But its statements like "well this makes more sense" that make me shrug. There is no sense to anything in this wonderful brand and mythology. The only real logic is in the business behind it and cost and that is all this Blastoff is a product of.

So it appears that Betatron is considered in the same Combiner Wars team as Wave 1 Optimus Prime.

https://www.facebook.com/DaimChocReports/photos/pcb.173241096359659/173240826359686/?type=3&theater

Note the color around the 3, and the color of the Betatron name.

Meanwhile, the Combaticons get a nice mud-like green.

What a...wonderful...wash of red.

RAcast wrote:What a...wonderful...rash Superion has

Yeah, that is hideous; bet those cases will be sitting in bbts' warehouse for quite some time, as I don't think anyone will want this, once better in-hand pics drop; I get the feeling his are going to be pics that become more disappointing and hideous with each one.

That Bot wrote:

Hey look! Bruticus's chestplate is toy-accurate silver!

Hellscream9999 wrote:THAT'S supposed to be blast-off

Yep.

Miscolored a bit, though.

Hellscream9999 wrote:I thought it was mindwipe or something based on his arms, wow, the g1 toy definitely did it no favors

Mindwipe didn't exist yet (this is from the start of season 3).

Though, all the Combaticons did have earlier designs that were closer to their toys than the final ones were (except for their heads, which in these earlier designs appear to be completely new heads instead of anything like the toy heads):

Rodimus Prime wrote:I don't mean to throw the conversation off the Combaticons, but I have a question: how many of you consider the CW figures as "G1" as far as them being designed after the originals, as well as having their names/characters? What I mean is, if a casual fan asks you, "do you have any toys of G1 characters?" you can just point to the CW figures.

I don't consider them toys that represent every specific iteration of the Primax characters, but I do consider them toys of the Primax characters in a general sense, at the very least.

RAcast wrote:

Scottywan82 wrote:

optibotimus wrote:

Insurgent wrote:The review says it's a new gun, but it looks like the same flamethrower as Firefly/Slingshot to me. Anyone able to confirm if it's new or not? Can't see it clearly on this screen.

I had to dig out my weapons for the Aerialbots. I was mistaken in the video, they are reused weapons. Sorry for the confusion

Actually, it IS new. It has a hole on the bottom of the foot, used to plug in to the top of Brawl. You can clearly see there is a peg to flip up from the back of the turret that the foot can plug into like the one on top of Rook.

Also, I am in utter disbelief that the torso would not lock into place. It looked like it wasn;t clicked back far enough.

I have to second this. Are we absolutely sure that it doesn't accordion in? It really looks like it should...

The original post was talking about Blast Off's gun, not Brawl's.

Ultra Markus wrote:in the the world of transformers scale doesnt matter
i was told that fortress maximus was so huge that he was way bigger than metroplex but some how cerebros was about the same size as optimus prime that would make for a tiny head, right! unless you forget scale
so some how everything just magically fits together. maybe blastoff is a regular size space shuttle and some how magically fits as an arm for bruticus if that's how it is so be it!

The same applies to things like Megatron and Soundwave being full sized giant robots who transform into human-sized handheld objects (a gun and a tape player). Characters grow and shrink in size while transforming all the time.

Sabrblade wrote:

That Bot wrote:

Hey look! Bruticus's chestplate is toy-accurate silver!

Hellscream9999 wrote:THAT'S supposed to be blast-off

Yep.

Miscolored a bit, though.

Yeah, never knew which episode it was from, but I don't remember them ever giving anyone that much detail, but that purple really puts it over the edge as looking like someone else

Ultra Markus wrote:in the the world of transformers scale doesnt matter
i was told that fortress maximus was so huge that he was way bigger than metroplex but some how cerebros was about the same size as optimus prime that would make for a tiny head, right! unless you forget scale
so some how everything just magically fits together. maybe blastoff is a regular size space shuttle and some how magically fits as an arm for bruticus if that's how it is so be it!

The same applies to things like Megatron and Soundwave being full sized giant robots who transform into human-sized handheld objects (a gun and a tape player). Characters grow and shrink in size while transforming all the time.[/quote]
absolutly! whether the size for human hands or decepticons hands
and by the same logic bumble bee can be as big as metroplex if he wants to be

Ultra Markus wrote:and by the same logic bumble bee can be as big as metroplex if he wants to be

Except that the size of Bumblebee's altmode isn't disproportionate to the size of his robot mode. He doesn't change size when he transforms since his altmode size is already scaled close enough to his robot mode size.

Conversely, Cerebros in the cartoon (and his Japanese counterpart Fortress) gets bigger when he transforms into a head because the body his head mode attaches to is so enormously huge due to it transforming into an entire city.



The comic versions of Fort Max didn't utilize the City Mode, so Fort Max was smaller in those versions, being closer to a normal-sized TF.

Optibotimus put up an update video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlULI_8p_4M

Basically, he shows that Brawl is the victim of bad design and that he was not mistransformed.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

That Bot wrote:

Hey look! Bruticus's chestplate is toy-accurate silver!

Hellscream9999 wrote:THAT'S supposed to be blast-off

Yep.

Miscolored a bit, though.

Yeah, never knew which episode it was from, but I don't remember them ever giving anyone that much detail, but that purple really puts it over the edge as looking like someone else

I love how the only elements of the toy that they included are the head, the wings on the legs, and the toy-style landing wheels!

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Optibotimus put up an update video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlULI_8p_4M

Basically, he shows that Brawl is the victim of bad design and that he was not mistransformed.

What a load of blatant bs, that's a serious d!ck slap to the face to all the fans, 1 of 2 new combiner components for next year is utter trash, color me disappointed - not surprised, just disappointed

On second thought, TT also had a hand in designing this, so, yeah, actually, WTF? 2 design teams and they couldn't make it tab together, F$%K this

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Optibotimus put up an update video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlULI_8p_4M

Basically, he shows that Brawl is the victim of bad design and that he was not mistransformed.

What a load of blatant bs, that's a serious d!ck slap to the face to all the fans, 1 of 2 new combiner components for next year is utter trash, color me disappointed - not surprised, just disappointed

On second thought, TT also had a hand in designing this, so, yeah, actually, WTF? 2 design teams and they couldn't make it tab together, F$%K this

EASY, Hellscream! You'll spill your coffee if you get too worked up.

Shuttershock wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Optibotimus put up an update video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlULI_8p_4M

Basically, he shows that Brawl is the victim of bad design and that he was not mistransformed.

What a load of blatant bs, that's a serious d!ck slap to the face to all the fans, 1 of 2 new combiner components for next year is utter trash, color me disappointed - not surprised, just disappointed

On second thought, TT also had a hand in designing this, so, yeah, actually, WTF? 2 design teams and they couldn't make it tab together, F$%K this

EASY, Hellscream! You'll spill your coffee if you get too worked up.

You're right, it's not like I've been waiting half the year or longer for the (good) combaticons or new cw molds

Shuttershock wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Optibotimus put up an update video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlULI_8p_4M

Basically, he shows that Brawl is the victim of bad design and that he was not mistransformed.

What a load of blatant bs, that's a serious d!ck slap to the face to all the fans, 1 of 2 new combiner components for next year is utter trash, color me disappointed - not surprised, just disappointed

On second thought, TT also had a hand in designing this, so, yeah, actually, WTF? 2 design teams and they couldn't make it tab together, F$%K this

EASY, Hellscream! You'll spill your coffee if you get too worked up.

NOOOOOO! If we spill the coffee, we'll have to find some other emoticon to horrendously overuse!

Randomus wrote:

Shuttershock wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Optibotimus put up an update video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlULI_8p_4M

Basically, he shows that Brawl is the victim of bad design and that he was not mistransformed.

What a load of blatant bs, that's a serious d!ck slap to the face to all the fans, 1 of 2 new combiner components for next year is utter trash, color me disappointed - not surprised, just disappointed

On second thought, TT also had a hand in designing this, so, yeah, actually, WTF? 2 design teams and they couldn't make it tab together, F$%K this

EASY, Hellscream! You'll spill your coffee if you get too worked up.

NOOOOOO! If we spill the coffee, we'll have to find some other emoticon to horrendously overuse!

I would be in trouble then, wouldn't I?

That really stinks about Brawl. What if it's something where tooling the waist hinge so it folded down properly would've cost too much money, like the elbows on the Constructicons? Perhaps Takara will have a better waist for the gift set.

LOTS of people either think there is a design problem with the waist, that i transformed it incorrectly or just missed something. Here is an update video i did a little bit ago to show a closer look at the torso and why i transformed it the way i did...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FlULI_8p_4M