Video Review - Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Battle Core Optimus Prime

I can seriously see them repainting this as Kup

coz not too long ago.....we had this

both similarly looking pick up trucks, so hopefully we'll see a Kup not too long from now.

as for this

how come there's no news of them repainting another stunticon as Sideswipe?

obviously there's this

but we really need a CW Sideswipe, hopefully one'll happen....eventually

Stuartmaximus wrote:I can seriously see them repainting this as Kup

coz not too long ago.....we had this

both similarly looking pick up trucks, so hopefully we'll see a Kup not too long from now.

Considering the Rodimus chest piece and the white Prime (Ultra Magnus), I'm surprised they didn't try to make the '85 crew into a combiner.

"I AM MAGNANIMOUS, GUARDIAN OF CYBERTRON, PROTECTOR OF THE PEACE."

I wouldn't mind seeing a Kup from CW, but again, without trying to offend fans of the characters, Ironhide and Kup just never really floated my boat. I'd like to see some repaints of Breakdown/Sunstreaker into the other Lambo bros.

Madeus Prime wrote:I wouldn't mind seeing a Kup from CW, but again, without trying to offend fans of the characters, Ironhide and Kup just never really floated my boat. I'd like to see some repaints of Breakdown/Sunstreaker into the other Lambo bros.

I actually really like Ironhide, but I don't really get interested in Kup for some reason...

Madeus Prime wrote:I wouldn't mind seeing a Kup from CW, but again, without trying to offend fans of the characters, Ironhide and Kup just never really floated my boat. I'd like to see some repaints of Breakdown/Sunstreaker into the other Lambo bros.

Agreed. I would like a "G1" Sideswipe and Red Alert, especially since Red was a Lost Lighter

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Madeus Prime wrote:I wouldn't mind seeing a Kup from CW, but again, without trying to offend fans of the characters, Ironhide and Kup just never really floated my boat. I'd like to see some repaints of Breakdown/Sunstreaker into the other Lambo bros.

Agreed. I would like a "G1" Sideswipe and Red Alert, especially since Red was a Lost Lighter

I would be seriously bent if we see any more autobot combiners before another scramble city decepticon team;

I don't care if they aren't beast combiners; make them up, or draft them from canon - I don't care - just give us more decepticons (and don't say tfss 4 - those are expensive exclusives - I mean retail releases)

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Madeus Prime wrote:I wouldn't mind seeing a Kup from CW, but again, without trying to offend fans of the characters, Ironhide and Kup just never really floated my boat. I'd like to see some repaints of Breakdown/Sunstreaker into the other Lambo bros.

Agreed. I would like a "G1" Sideswipe and Red Alert, especially since Red was a Lost Lighter

I would be seriously bent if we see any more autobot combiners before another scramble city decepticon team;

I don't care if they aren't beast combiners; make them up, or draft them from canon - I don't care - just give us more decepticons (and don't say tfss 4 - those are expensive exclusives - I mean retail releases)

Amen to that. More 'cons are definitely welcome. As long as they put in a 'con medic like Flatline we need a Flatline

Thadicon wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Madeus Prime wrote:I wouldn't mind seeing a Kup from CW, but again, without trying to offend fans of the characters, Ironhide and Kup just never really floated my boat. I'd like to see some repaints of Breakdown/Sunstreaker into the other Lambo bros.

Agreed. I would like a "G1" Sideswipe and Red Alert, especially since Red was a Lost Lighter

I would be seriously bent if we see any more autobot combiners before another scramble city decepticon team;

I don't care if they aren't beast combiners; make them up, or draft them from canon - I don't care - just give us more decepticons (and don't say tfss 4 - those are expensive exclusives - I mean retail releases)

Amen to that. More 'cons are definitely welcome. As long as they put in a 'con medic like Flatline we need a Flatline

Never heard of him, so I'd probably like him, really any would be a welcome change, I feel like I'm being smothered in goody-goody loser I don't care about

Flatline is essentially just Generations Trailcutter with some remolded parts, but basically the same deco as is.



He's a G1-ized version of Movieverse Flatline:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Thadicon wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Madeus Prime wrote:I wouldn't mind seeing a Kup from CW, but again, without trying to offend fans of the characters, Ironhide and Kup just never really floated my boat. I'd like to see some repaints of Breakdown/Sunstreaker into the other Lambo bros.

Agreed. I would like a "G1" Sideswipe and Red Alert, especially since Red was a Lost Lighter

I would be seriously bent if we see any more autobot combiners before another scramble city decepticon team;

I don't care if they aren't beast combiners; make them up, or draft them from canon - I don't care - just give us more decepticons (and don't say tfss 4 - those are expensive exclusives - I mean retail releases)

Amen to that. More 'cons are definitely welcome. As long as they put in a 'con medic like Flatline we need a Flatline

Never heard of him, so I'd probably like him, really any would be a welcome change, I feel like I'm being smothered in goody-goody loser I don't care about

I wouldn't mind a Flatline, but I am good with Autobots too. Flatline is really cool though

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Thadicon wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Madeus Prime wrote:I wouldn't mind seeing a Kup from CW, but again, without trying to offend fans of the characters, Ironhide and Kup just never really floated my boat. I'd like to see some repaints of Breakdown/Sunstreaker into the other Lambo bros.

Agreed. I would like a "G1" Sideswipe and Red Alert, especially since Red was a Lost Lighter

I would be seriously bent if we see any more autobot combiners before another scramble city decepticon team;

I don't care if they aren't beast combiners; make them up, or draft them from canon - I don't care - just give us more decepticons (and don't say tfss 4 - those are expensive exclusives - I mean retail releases)

Amen to that. More 'cons are definitely welcome. As long as they put in a 'con medic like Flatline we need a Flatline

Never heard of him, so I'd probably like him, really any would be a welcome change, I feel like I'm being smothered in goody-goody loser I don't care about

I wouldn't mind a Flatline, but I am good with Autobots too. Flatline is really cool though

I'd toss in Barricade too. He's already in IDW and pretty cool as a proud Decepticon police officer.

Barricade is another good choice. I would not mind a new G1 toy of him

Shuttershock wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Thadicon wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Madeus Prime wrote:I wouldn't mind seeing a Kup from CW, but again, without trying to offend fans of the characters, Ironhide and Kup just never really floated my boat. I'd like to see some repaints of Breakdown/Sunstreaker into the other Lambo bros.

Agreed. I would like a "G1" Sideswipe and Red Alert, especially since Red was a Lost Lighter

I would be seriously bent if we see any more autobot combiners before another scramble city decepticon team;

I don't care if they aren't beast combiners; make them up, or draft them from canon - I don't care - just give us more decepticons (and don't say tfss 4 - those are expensive exclusives - I mean retail releases)

Amen to that. More 'cons are definitely welcome. As long as they put in a 'con medic like Flatline we need a Flatline

Never heard of him, so I'd probably like him, really any would be a welcome change, I feel like I'm being smothered in goody-goody loser I don't care about

I wouldn't mind a Flatline, but I am good with Autobots too. Flatline is really cool though

I'd toss in Barricade too. He's already in IDW and pretty cool as a proud Decepticon police officer.

I'm sick of the goody goods too, especially when they overwhelm the Baddies.

We need a Flatline plus there aren't many Decepticon doctor/medics in toy form so it would be pretty good to have someone like that.

Barricade would be Awesome. Actually a whole bunch of Micromaster characters turned full sized bots would be nice. Brawl could pass as Bombshock with a new head and a colour scheme

I've cut back on buying toys but I totally caved for Viper because of the GI Joe/Transformers crossover.

Just finished up Defensor last week. I don't mind that Groove is the Legends figure. If he were a deluxe he would look really weird. I also think Rook is one of the most solid CW figures there are. The fact he can have a Power Fist (a la Warhammer 40K). His other gun is kinda crap though. I am disappointed that Groove can't really be configured into a weapon or arm-mounted shield. I really like the Defensor chest without him, but I don't really have a better place for him. Otherwise, for a number of reason, Defensor is my favorite combiner. He is solid, holds together well, has nice color balance, and is composed of rescue vehicles (I am a nurse IRL, so I love me some rescue vehicles).

I am really looking forward to the Combaticons so I can have 2 Autobots vs 2 Decepticons. I am disappointed that Blast Off isn't a remold of Alpha Bravo/Vortex/Blades mold. The windows on said figures look very much like the Space Shuttle's, and if they replace the tail assembly and arms, they could make a very convincing Space Shuttle. Having him just be a recolor of Quickslinger just doesn't do it for me.

I plan on getting Sky Lynx, but I doubt I will get his intended limbs. It is really dumb that Sky Reign has a bunch of cars for limbs. Also have all of the CHUG molds of all of his limbs and like them well enough. I kinda want to get doubles of some of the Aerialbots and repaint them as other characters. But I am not going to kid myself into thinking that would actually happen.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Madeus Prime wrote:I wouldn't mind seeing a Kup from CW, but again, without trying to offend fans of the characters, Ironhide and Kup just never really floated my boat. I'd like to see some repaints of Breakdown/Sunstreaker into the other Lambo bros.

Agreed. I would like a "G1" Sideswipe and Red Alert, especially since Red was a Lost Lighter

I would be seriously bent if we see any more autobot combiners before another scramble city decepticon team;

I don't care if they aren't beast combiners; make them up, or draft them from canon - I don't care - just give us more decepticons (and don't say tfss 4 - those are expensive exclusives - I mean retail releases)

Yeah we need more 'Cons, it's annoying that the TFCC are getting a new con combiner.

It's a shame I can't make my Digibashes real, as well as making more Autobots, I am also doing Decepticons, currently doing the Skyscorchers as CW limbs

Michigan-based Twitter user Brian Dagley (@ShukuenShinobi) has not only found the entirety of the wave 4 limbs from Transformers Generations Combiner Wars line, featuring Sunstreaker, Prowl, Ironhide and Mirage, but has also shared some shots of the team along with Voyager Optimus Prime from the first wave. You can check out the figures in the images mirrored below, as they made their way from a Target in Sterling Heights - first US sighting - to Dagley's desk!

Mirage and Sunstreaker look great. Prowl and Ironhide... They do nothing for me.

all look good to me
but I'm not a fan of mirages face

I went ahead and pre-ordered Mirage and Prowl last night on BBTS. It'd be nice to find them at retail sooner than later, but I am not counting on it. Mirage was a must buy for me because I missed out on the Classics version.
Ironhide and Sunstreaker are an easy pass for me this time around, but that just allows me to save a little more for the Combaticon wave when it comes around.

So barring some things coming out we don't know about, if these are out already, then damn. Probably nothing except the Voyager Prime repaint and Leader Starscream until the Bruticus wave right around Christmas as far as Generations goes. No complaints about that here though.

This is the first time I'm really noticing the silver combiner hands/feet that come with these guys. That's slick. I like it.

Everybody else looks fine, but that Ironhide has got to go!

Also, is anyone else getting a Transformers: Energon Optimus Prime vibe from Optimus Maximus?

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Everybody else looks fine, but that Ironhide has got to go!

I still think he's better than the Universe 2.0 one in robot mode.

I really wish they'd used the First Aid re-tooling for the vehicle. Here's a random digibash from a Google search that makes me sad:

I know it's not the best prowl, but I really like the high contrast black and white on that mold. Personally, I like prowl and sunstreaker the best. Mirage is okay, but he feels a little bland, same with ironhide; I wish there was more tooling on them to make them more distinct.

SW's SilverHammer wrote:I know it's not the best prowl, but I really like the high contrast black and white on that mold. Personally, I like prowl and sunstreaker the best. Mirage is okay, but he feels a little bland, same with ironhide; I wish there was more tooling on them to make them more distinct.

Agree on Mirage here too. A modicum of retooling to allow the F1 car front to be his chest, with the arms being appropriate to face that way as well, would take it over the top.

ScottyP wrote:

SW's SilverHammer wrote:I know it's not the best prowl, but I really like the high contrast black and white on that mold. Personally, I like prowl and sunstreaker the best. Mirage is okay, but he feels a little bland, same with ironhide; I wish there was more tooling on them to make them more distinct.

Agree on Mirage here too. A modicum of retooling to allow the F1 car front to be his chest, with the arms being appropriate to face that way as well, would take it over the top.

Yeah I think given those additions, combiner wars mirage would be a pretty good generations mirage nearly a decade after the classic's figure. Maybe not a better figure, but distinctly it's own mirage. As for ironhide it's a better figure than the universe 2.0 figure mostly because of the engineering differences, but I think there needed to be something more distinct for him besides the head to make him more than a red offroad.

They look good. I still have no Protectobots and these guys are out! jeez!

Meanwhile, the Target near me still just has two Dragstrips and a Skydive as their Combiner Wars stock, even after their massive summer restock.

I was at one of my local Targets (Okemos, MI) around 11 AM and they also have the Wave 4 Deluxes out. Had at least 2 of each.

Meanwhile, my local Target and Walmart STILL haven't stocked the Protectobots....wondering if I'll ever see them at retail.

dear god hasbro let the damn protectobots hits shelves first, this just proves they have absolutely no clue whats going on in the actual stores.

Agh! We haven't even gotten the protectobots here in CO yet. Dang it.

Megatron Wolf wrote:dear god hasbro let the damn protectobots hits shelves first, this just proves they have absolutely no clue whats going on in the actual stores.

You're assuming, of course, that there is anything Hasbro can do about what's going on in actual stores. The retailers hold almost all of the power. Hasbro can't ship to them what they won't buy. They also can't dictate to the retailers how to allocate available stock to their stores either.

I have to say, out of all the limbs, Off-road is still the stand-out figure, if only (as I do really love him) for the unique splashes of color he brings to the table as an arm.

Really that teal is to die for (that green on his face is also very nice), and greatly needed to stand out against all the muted/dark colors and grays of mm/menasor/galvatronus.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Megatron Wolf wrote:dear god hasbro let the damn protectobots hits shelves first, this just proves they have absolutely no clue whats going on in the actual stores.

You're assuming, of course, that there is anything Hasbro can do about what's going on in actual stores. The retailers hold almost all of the power. Hasbro can't ship to them what they won't buy. They also can't dictate to the retailers how to allocate available stock to their stores either.

Exactly this.

Just speaking for my local area, which, granted is big but not Big or BIG or anything like that, I can say the Protectobots have been around for a couple months quite readily. Bring on a new wave!

I seriously wish has/tak had gone back and re-engineered op/mm after the others were done - I do beleive he was the first mold done, or that a seperate (and far more clever) team worked on silverbolt/hotspot - and applied some of the things that they learned from making silverbolt and hotspot to him.

Specifically the thighs and the shoulders; they could have decreased his density, locked everything together better, made the thighs 'better' (please note that defensor uses the same thighs/pelvis as hotspot, but by moving the connector ports outwards, a better look and design is achieved - this would have facilitated a better use of the mm legs, maybe even a design similar to hotspot).

I dunno, Menasor just 'looks' really cool - dat head sculpt - and the ball jointed neck was a god-send, but everything else just sucks, from an engineering standpoint; it doesn't help that the fan-modes aren't that great to me, and still have pretty poor stability/poseability; I really want to like him, I wanted to since he was revealed, but I will never love that mold - until, that is, it gets overhauled.



p.s. anyone wonder if the running change on b.c.op will affect hs wavemate

Wow, all of the new wave 4 figures look exceptional and I've been very skeptical of them until now.

On a side note, has Hasbro released a Gears figure that is G1 accurate?

joeprime276 wrote: On a side note, has Hasbro released a Gears figure that is G1 accurate?

Closest we've gotten so far is the Generations Legend class from last year, and he was impossible to find. I had to get him from a friend in Canada.


Lots of folks complain that his head should be Brawn's. True, but it works for me.

Hellscream9999 wrote:
p.s. anyone wonder if the running change on b.c.op will affect hs wavemate

Running change? When did that come up?

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:
p.s. anyone wonder if the running change on b.c.op will affect his wavemate

Running change? When did that come up?

A couple of days ago, it may not have been news'ed. The thigh detented gear of b.c.o/p has been changed so that the combined forms' legs can sit evenly on the floor; mm is his wavemate, I wasn't sure if this wasn't the reason why

They're all perfect.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:
p.s. anyone wonder if the running change on b.c.op will affect his wavemate

Running change? When did that come up?

A couple of days ago, it may not have been news'ed. The thigh detented gear of b.c.o/p has been changed so that the combined forms' legs can sit evenly on the floor; mm is his wavemate, I wasn't sure if this wasn't the reason why

Ah, thank you. I did hear that, but didnt make the running change connection

EXCUSE ME, while I Sweep this up...

Knees are a bit loose due to using the Sweep head / thruster swivel as a knee joint, but he stands up straight.

Galvatronus has come to sweep us off our feet!

that looks amazing

SkyQuake101 wrote:EXCUSE ME, while I Sweep this up...

Knees are a bit loose due to using the Sweep head / thruster swivel as a knee joint, but he stands up straight.

Absolutely beautiful...

Those shoulder wings are AWESOME!!!!!

only getting ironhide. dont need anyone else.

SkyQuake101 wrote:EXCUSE ME, while I Sweep this up...

Knees are a bit loose due to using the Sweep head / thruster swivel as a knee joint, but he stands up straight.

Love these customs. The shoulder wings are amazing