Video Review - Transformers Cyber Commander Bumblebee
Thursday, July 23rd, 2015 4:52AM CDT
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Posted by Hellscream9999 on July 23rd, 2015 @ 4:42pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on July 23rd, 2015 @ 4:43pm CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:Wish these had replaced the hyper-change sh!t from the movie and rid'15 lines, they look pretty nice
Agreed
Posted by Madeus Prime on July 23rd, 2015 @ 10:41pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:Wish these had replaced the hyper-change sh!t from the movie and rid'15 lines, they look pretty nice
Agreed
These may not be great, but they aren't bad. At least the design isn't sacrificed for a gimmick that nobody (and I know a few younger kids who like TFs) wants. If these figures were being produces on a legends scale, I'd pick them up. I mean, to be honest, if the review says its worth it, I might order Megatron.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on July 29th, 2015 @ 12:58pm CDT
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on July 30th, 2015 @ 11:30am CDT
Posted by ScottyP on July 31st, 2015 @ 10:17am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on July 31st, 2015 @ 10:22am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on July 31st, 2015 @ 10:27am CDT
Posted by megatronus on July 31st, 2015 @ 10:49am CDT
ScottyP wrote:I have all 7 of these in-hand now. If there's anything anyone wants to see, post it and I'll see what I can get together over the weekend. In the meantime, enjoy this group shot:
Can you do some comparison shots with a few other Megatrons to get a sense of scale and fit? WFC Deluxe / United Voyager / Generations Leader?
Posted by william-james88 on July 31st, 2015 @ 11:12am CDT
megatronus wrote:Can you do some comparison shots with a few other Megatrons to get a sense of scale and fit? WFC Deluxe / United Voyager / Generations Leader?
I would like something similar with Starscream.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on July 31st, 2015 @ 11:29am CDT
ScottyP wrote:I have all 7 of these in-hand now. If there's anything anyone wants to see, post it and I'll see what I can get together over the weekend. In the meantime, enjoy this group shot:
Smaller Bee is way better looking than the big one. Mainly because of the chests. Normal Bee have a very detailed front of a car as a chest that make him look cool. Big bee have the windshield as a chest, which make him look weird and way too blue.
Let's hope that when RID die down, Hasbro will bring that line for the rest of the world to fill the "simple TF" lines on the shelves.
Posted by ScottyP on August 1st, 2015 @ 4:25pm CDT
Posted by megatronus on August 1st, 2015 @ 5:43pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:Looks like I've got work to do! Might just do a video, may be easier. Been looking to break in a new camera anyway.
Yes! Show us those ham hands!
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 1st, 2015 @ 6:04pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:Looks like I've got work to do! Might just do a video, may be easier. Been looking to break in a new camera anyway.
There's no need to do a video, pictures will be just fine
Posted by megatronus on August 1st, 2015 @ 6:08pm CDT
chuckdawg1999 wrote:ScottyP wrote:Looks like I've got work to do! Might just do a video, may be easier. Been looking to break in a new camera anyway.
There's no need to do a video, pictures will be just fine
Someone doesn't want competition
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 1st, 2015 @ 6:25pm CDT
megatronus wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:ScottyP wrote:Looks like I've got work to do! Might just do a video, may be easier. Been looking to break in a new camera anyway.
There's no need to do a video, pictures will be just fine
Someone doesn't want competition
With just barely a few dozens of views for each videos, Chuck is no competition for anyone... Kinda unfair to say, but at least, Chuck is reviewing things that the big titant reviewers (such a Optiboptimus, Paugh, or Emgo) will not bother with. Sure, unpopular things like Movie 1 step figures or Hello Kitty TFs don't bring the masses, but at least, the video is being done. And It's nice to see some underdogs in motion.
Posted by william-james88 on August 1st, 2015 @ 7:21pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:megatronus wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:ScottyP wrote:Looks like I've got work to do! Might just do a video, may be easier. Been looking to break in a new camera anyway.
There's no need to do a video, pictures will be just fine
Someone doesn't want competition
With just barely a few dozens of views for each videos, Chuck is no competition for anyone... Kinda unfair to say, but at least, Chuck is reviewing things that the big titant reviewers (such a Optiboptimus, Paugh, or Emgo) will not bother with.
I just picked a random review (1 step Galvatron) and it had 1,796 views. Its a bit more than a few dozen.
An this power battler optimus has as much as any video by the "titans" you mentioned
Posted by Optimum Supreme on August 1st, 2015 @ 7:24pm CDT
-Kanrabat- wrote:
Let's hope that when RID die down, Hasbro will bring that line for the rest of the world to fill the "simple TF" lines on the shelves.
While I can appreciate that view, I'd much rather they work on actually getting CW stuff into stores first.
Posted by william-james88 on August 1st, 2015 @ 7:48pm CDT
Optimum Supreme wrote:-Kanrabat- wrote:
Let's hope that when RID die down, Hasbro will bring that line for the rest of the world to fill the "simple TF" lines on the shelves.
While I can appreciate that view, I'd much rather they work on actually getting CW stuff into stores first.
Havent all walmarts and TRUs gotten their wave 3 stuff ?
Posted by -Kanrabat- on August 1st, 2015 @ 7:56pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:I just picked a random review (1 step Galvatron) and it had 1,796 views. Its a bit more than a few dozen.
An this power battler optimus has as much as any video by the "titans" you mentioned
It's normal for the odd stuff that we cant find anywhaere. That's his strenght. However, for the things that the big Ones have reviewed, most people don't bother.
If he's the first on the block to review something, he may get a few thousands thanks to a Seibertron feature. But no more once the Big Titant Reviewers get on the game. It's hard to compete with their hundreds of thousands of subscribers.
That why, Chuck, I encourage you to keep reviewing the most bizzare and out of the left feild TF ever and/or, the ones that many reviewers will not bother with. Like the giant-ass 60$ 1 step RID Bumblebee. Power Battler AOE Optimus have proven it.
Posted by william-james88 on August 1st, 2015 @ 8:30pm CDT
http://bwtf.com/toyreviews/generations/cyberbattalion/grimlock
Posted by ScottyP on August 2nd, 2015 @ 3:40pm CDT
This one may only interest me, but just wanted to show that while the "small" Bee from this line shares engineering with the upscaled BH Cyberverse Deluxe, they are definitely not the same mold retooled or further upscaled:
Sabrblade wrote:How many points of articulation do each of them have? And what are their said points of articulation?
- Cyber Commander Prime - Ball jointed head, shoulder rotation, shoulder swivel, elbow bend, hip swivel, hip rotation, ankle tilts
- Cyber Commander Bumblebee - Ball jointed head, shoulder rotation, shoulder swivel, elbow bend, elbow rotation, hip swivel, hip rotation
- Megatron - Head rotation, shoulder rotation, shoulder swivel, elbow bend, hip swivel, hip rotation, knees, ankle tilts
- Grimlock - Head rotation (though very limited due to "collar" like piece around head), shoulder rotation, shoulder swivel, elbow bend, hip swivel, hip rotation, knees
- Optimus Prime - Shoulder rotation, elbow bend, elbow rotation, hip swivel, hip rotation
- Bumblebee - Ball jointed head, shoulder rotation, shoulder swivel, elbow bend, hip swivel, hip rotation
- Starscream - Head rotation, shoulder rotation, shoulder swivel, elbow bend, hip swivel, hip rotation
Posted by william-james88 on August 2nd, 2015 @ 6:49pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:Didn't have as much time as expected and cell camera is starting to spaz out, but here's some of the requested comparisons.
This one may only interest me, but just wanted to show that while the "small" Bee from this line shares engineering with the upscaled BH Cyberverse Deluxe, they are definitely not the same mold retooled or further upscaled:
Lit of Articulation:
- Cyber Commander Prime - Ball jointed head, shoulder rotation, shoulder swivel, elbow bend, hip swivel, hip rotation, ankle tilts
- Cyber Commander Bumblebee - Ball jointed head, shoulder rotation, shoulder swivel, elbow bend, elbow rotation, hip swivel, hip rotation
- Megatron - Head rotation, shoulder rotation, shoulder swivel, elbow bend, hip swivel, hip rotation, knees, ankle tilts
- Grimlock - Head rotation (though very limited due to "collar" like piece around head), shoulder rotation, shoulder swivel, elbow bend, hip swivel, hip rotation, knees
- Optimus Prime - Shoulder rotation, elbow bend, elbow rotation, hip swivel, hip rotation
- Bumblebee - Ball jointed head, shoulder rotation, shoulder swivel, elbow bend, hip swivel, hip rotation
- Starscream - Head rotation, shoulder rotation, shoulder swivel, elbow bend, hip swivel, hip rotation
Posted by dragons on August 2nd, 2015 @ 6:57pm CDT
thanks for sharing information well known
Posted by ScottyP on August 2nd, 2015 @ 7:14pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on August 2nd, 2015 @ 7:16pm CDT
dragons wrote:size i did not know, but articulation i could what they have by looking pictures where joints are in robot mode and vehicale mode what articualtion was on these bots
thanks for sharing information well known
Is this a "diss"? As always, I cant understand whatever you write.
Posted by ScottyP on August 2nd, 2015 @ 7:20pm CDT
Ain't no thing, I'm sure they just didn't realize Sabr had asked about it a couple days ago, which is why it was providedwilliam-james88 wrote:dragons wrote:size i did not know, but articulation i could what they have by looking pictures where joints are in robot mode and vehicale mode what articualtion was on these bots
thanks for sharing information well known
Is this a "diss"? As always, I cant understand whatever you write.
Posted by Fires_Of_Inferno on August 2nd, 2015 @ 7:28pm CDT
Posted by Dagon on August 2nd, 2015 @ 8:14pm CDT
Posted by Shockwave7 on August 2nd, 2015 @ 8:58pm CDT
Going through some of my old boxes, I saw I had kept the original boxes/packaging for the G1 combaticons and Rumble/Frenzy. Just look at them prices... Those were 80s Deluxes and Voyager. Sure they're bigger now, but I don't know if it merits doubling the prices...
Posted by william-james88 on August 2nd, 2015 @ 9:11pm CDT
Shockwave7 wrote:As throwback-ish as the Cyber Series looks to be, I thought I'd post this photo.
Going through some of my old boxes, I saw I had kept the original boxes/packaging for the G1 combaticons and Rumble/Frenzy. Just look at them prices... Those were 80s Deluxes and Voyager. Sure they're bigger now, but I don't know if it merits doubling the prices...
If you are talking prices have you considered inflation and comparison to the increase in other toy lines? I remeber the marvel legends line being 10$ when it started. It doubled in only 10-15 years time. That is a much faster acceleration than the TF price increase.
Actually, f&%k it: Here's an inflation calculator, the increase in toy prices is a myth:
http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/
TFs havent increased in significant value in 30 years and have gotten bigger. We have only gained in terms of what money can let us buy in terms of TFs.
What you are really asking is: would you be ok going back to paying these prices and having your salary reduced by half? That is the only logical way to approach your line of thinking.
Posted by Shockwave7 on August 2nd, 2015 @ 9:58pm CDT
Posted by Desslok2201 on August 2nd, 2015 @ 10:02pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Shockwave7 wrote:As throwback-ish as the Cyber Series looks to be, I thought I'd post this photo.
Going through some of my old boxes, I saw I had kept the original boxes/packaging for the G1 combaticons and Rumble/Frenzy. Just look at them prices... Those were 80s Deluxes and Voyager. Sure they're bigger now, but I don't know if it merits doubling the prices...
If you are talking prices have you considered inflation and comparison to the increase in other toy lines? I remeber the marvel legends line being 10$ when it started. It doubled in only 10-15 years time. That is a much faster acceleration than the TF price increase.
Actually, f&%k it: Here's an inflation calculator, the increase in toy prices is a myth:
http://www.usinflationcalculator.com/
TFs havent increased in significant value in 30 years and have gotten bigger. We have only gained in terms of what money can let us buy in terms of TFs.
What you are really asking is: would you be ok going back to paying these prices and having your salary reduced by half? That is the only logical way to approach your line of thinking.
Well, first of all, salaries are not back to where they were pre 2008, and I don't know about you, but when those cards were on the racks, I was 14, with a paper route and mowing lawns... And zero overhead. None. No kids..no mortgage..no car payments.. Jesus, I'm tearing up....
Posted by william-james88 on August 2nd, 2015 @ 10:17pm CDT
Desslok2201 wrote:Well, first of all, salaries are not back to where they were pre 2008, and I don't know about you, but when those cards were on the racks, I was 14, with a paper route and mowing lawns... And zero overhead. None. No kids..no mortgage..no car payments.. Jesus, I'm tearing up....
You have to be fair in your comparisons, guys. If you are comparing your pay when you were a kid buying TFs, you should compare it to someone who is that old today buying tfs. To make it easy, I assumed it as parents buying TFs for their kids then and parents buying it for their kids now. Do you make as much, less or more now than your parents made back then? That is the only fair way to compare when dealing with inflation.
How much was a trio at mcdonalds back in the 80s? How much is it now?
Posted by RAR on August 3rd, 2015 @ 1:27am CDT
The current prices of Deluxes up to $16.99 seems like a price further away from an easily scroungable amount.
I do personally think it was a mistake for things like 1-Steps to be sold over $10.00 that is an important psychological price limit.
It might be argued the "Toy car" size of a legion being over $5.00 has also passed a psychological price limit too.
I like Cyberseries and I appreciate the size but the only one I get less of a sense of 'Owch' at the price is Optimus.
But I guess we need to wait and see as regards the eventual US Retail Prices (if they ever show up).
I do worry they are a bit like all that South American Max Steel & Action Man - something just for South America... heck they might even be cheaper if they were out in some more places in Asia too though.
The import pricing on them would encourage me to be selective - I do like them more than the RID 3 step changers though.
They are an amusing curiosity if nothing else.
Posted by Valandar on August 3rd, 2015 @ 8:38am CDT
Posted by Optimizzy on August 3rd, 2015 @ 9:29am CDT
Posted by Optimizzy on August 3rd, 2015 @ 9:32am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Desslok2201 wrote:Well, first of all, salaries are not back to where they were pre 2008, and I don't know about you, but when those cards were on the racks, I was 14, with a paper route and mowing lawns... And zero overhead. None. No kids..no mortgage..no car payments.. Jesus, I'm tearing up....
You have to be fair in your comparisons, guys. If you are comparing your pay when you were a kid buying TFs, you should compare it to someone who is that old today buying tfs. To make it easy, I assumed it as parents buying TFs for their kids then and parents buying it for their kids now. Do you make as much, less or more now than your parents made back then? That is the only fair way to compare when dealing with inflation.
How much was a trio at mcdonalds back in the 80s? How much is it now?
I agree that inflation-wise, items are actually pretty good. What is bad is how much we get paid. Its not really worse but we seem to get paid a little under what we should to adjust for inflation. At least where I live. And location matters. $20 is a lot different to someone making $100 a week than it is for someone making $200 a week. Standard of living doesn't affect toy MSRP.
Posted by ScottyP on August 3rd, 2015 @ 11:10am CDT
I agree with this. Weird to me that the new Mini-cons are $5 at retail when the legions run $6 (Walmart) or $9 (everywhere else). That $9 price point is where the one-steps probably should fall.RAR wrote:I do personally think it was a mistake for things like 1-Steps to be sold over $10.00 that is an important psychological price limit.
It might be argued the "Toy car" size of a legion being over $5.00 has also passed a psychological price limit too.
Posted by Optimizzy on August 3rd, 2015 @ 12:06pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on August 3rd, 2015 @ 12:12pm CDT
Optimizzy wrote:Are these sold out at BBTS? I can't even find the listing.
The listing dissapeared a week or so ago, continuing the mystery.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 3rd, 2015 @ 1:07pm CDT
Other than that: These continue to look good. I do like em. The smaller Bee and the actual Full truck and trailer mode Optimus look better. That megs is nice too!
Posted by Optimizzy on August 3rd, 2015 @ 1:34pm CDT
Posted by Marcdachamp on August 3rd, 2015 @ 3:32pm CDT
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on August 4th, 2015 @ 7:14pm CDT
Shockwave7 wrote:As throwback-ish as the Cyber Series looks to be, I thought I'd post this photo.
Going through some of my old boxes, I saw I had kept the original boxes/packaging for the G1 combaticons and Rumble/Frenzy. Just look at them prices... Those were 80s Deluxes and Voyager. Sure they're bigger now, but I don't know if it merits doubling the prices...
I legit had a chuckle looking at how TRU priced theirs a dollar more than everyone else. Somethings never change
Posted by Autobot032 on August 12th, 2015 @ 10:47pm CDT
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on August 12th, 2015 @ 10:58pm CDT
Posted by Hellscream9999 on August 12th, 2015 @ 11:33pm CDT
Posted by Autobot032 on August 13th, 2015 @ 12:24am CDT
Hellscream9999 wrote:So... no news credit for me then I'm hurt
Actually, Madeus Prime beat you to it. By several hours. I now have to amend the post and the news on the front page.
Thank you for your submission, though. I'm sorry no one said thank you sooner, because we do appreciate it.
Posted by Hellscream9999 on August 13th, 2015 @ 12:48am CDT
Autobot032 wrote:Hellscream9999 wrote:So... no news credit for me then I'm hurt
Actually, Madeus Prime beat you to it. By several hours. I now have to amend the post and the news on the front page.
Thank you for your submission, though. I'm sorry no one said thank you sooner, because we do appreciate it.
It's no problem, to be honest, clarification is all I wanted; I'm not really competing or anything.