Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime

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Thanks to fellow Seibertron.com user Fires_Of_Inferno we get another video review from YouTube user Baltmatrix - and we take a look at another version of the upcoming Transformers: Age of Extinction Optimus Prime. As we posted the other day for Grimlock (and you can check out our gallery here, too), it's the chrometastic Leader Class figure! Check out the embedded video below, and let us know your thoughts in the Energon Pub.

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Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572212)
Posted by Razieon on May 8th, 2014 @ 9:06am CDT

Seems decent enough, but I'm quite satisfied with my Evasion Mode Optimus Prime. After I see the movie I may decide to pick him up though.

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572218)
Posted by reluctantyouth on May 8th, 2014 @ 9:15am CDT

WooHoo...Sooo glad I put the kabash on my Amazon preorder! :grin:

This is a complete piece of crap...actually liked the first edition AOE Prime better and I returned that one to Hasbro because of chrome issues for refund. I know I won't have any trouble scoring an Evasion Mode Optimus on launch day, but have to wonder how everyone else will make out when it is the ONLY worthy Prime in the line thus far. :-?

Just my humble opinion of course...thanks for another great review. :BOWDOWN:

~reluctantyouth~

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572219)
Posted by Hip-Hoptimus Rime on May 8th, 2014 @ 9:21am CDT

Here's a thought: have we actually seen movie footage of the Dinobots in robot mode? What if they end up like Movie Scorponok, i.e. only an on-screen beast mode?

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572226)
Posted by BeastProwl on May 8th, 2014 @ 9:34am CDT

Hip-Hoptimus Rime wrote:Here's a thought: have we actually seen movie footage of the Dinobots in robot mode? What if they end up like Movie Scorponok, i.e. only an on-screen beast mode?

Hasbro confirmed they'd be transforming. Maybe its suppose to be a "surpise"

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572238)
Posted by SJ21 on May 8th, 2014 @ 10:16am CDT

Oh, I'm gonna buy the hell out of that two pack. G1 colored Grimlock! On a related note, anyone want to buy the Prime from me when I buy the two pack?

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572241)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 8th, 2014 @ 10:25am CDT

BeastProwl wrote:
Hip-Hoptimus Rime wrote:Here's a thought: have we actually seen movie footage of the Dinobots in robot mode? What if they end up like Movie Scorponok, i.e. only an on-screen beast mode?

Hasbro confirmed they'd be transforming. Maybe its suppose to be a "surpise"

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572247)
Posted by TimothyR on May 8th, 2014 @ 10:36am CDT

it's sooo sad seeing hot far this size class has fallen. hasbro should truly be ashamed of themselves.

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572254)
Posted by Doubledealer93 on May 8th, 2014 @ 10:49am CDT

Oh hell yes! That head launching gimmick is sweet. Lol. Glad i preordered these two on amazon

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572259)
Posted by Va'al on May 8th, 2014 @ 11:15am CDT

Are you ready to buy your Transformers: Age of Extinction figures? Afraid you might miss the boat or won't be able to make it to a store? Fear not, Hasbro is launching a scheme for online retail too! This coming Monday has been dubbed Cybertron Monday, and marks the official release date for online retailers of the movie toys. As a fun extra, you can also get a voicemail from Optimus Prime to remind you of the date! Check out more info here and below.

Monday, May 12th is CYBERTRON MONDAY, the official day when Transformers: Age of Extinction toys will go on sale at online retailers. The landing page http://www.cybertronmonday.com will go live shortly with more information about the event. Stay tuned for more details, as an official press release will make its appearance.

Also, as part of Cybertron Monday, we're letting U.S. fans sign up to receive a voicemail message from Optimus Prime reminding them when toys are available on May 12th. Fans can text TRANSFORMERS to 38470 to sign up.

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572267)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on May 8th, 2014 @ 11:28am CDT

I spotted Voyagers Optimus and Grimlock at WalMart today. I picked up Optimus only, (because I think Grimlock is hideous) and I wasn't disappointed. It's a very good figure. Dare I say better than the Leader. From previous photos and reviews I didn't think I would, but once I had it in hand at the store, it was a must-get.

I went to give his shotgun to DoTM Voyager Megatron, just to see if it would fit, and it does. Also, I noticed that Evasion Optimus scales very well with DoTM Megatron in both modes. In both modes he's juuuuust a bit bigger, but it's much closer than DoTM Voyager Optimus was.

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572269)
Posted by Va'al on May 8th, 2014 @ 11:31am CDT

The official Transformers YouTube channel has uploaded a new video, featuring a look at the work going on behind the scenes, directly on the desk of toy designer manager John Warden and Bill Paukert themselves! From colours, to alt modes to transformation to translating movie designs to plastic form, and materials, it's all in there, especially focused on the dinobots: take a look at the embedded video below, and let us know what you think in the Energon Pub!

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572272)
Posted by william-james88 on May 8th, 2014 @ 12:07pm CDT

"Just when you think transformers can't imprss you any more...", man that toy designer must have set himself some pretty low expectations for the films to keep impressing him.

Though I will say that Optimus on a robot Dinosaur is pretty cool.

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572290)
Posted by It Is Him on May 8th, 2014 @ 12:38pm CDT

Cybertron Monday. I love it.

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572292)
Posted by frogbat on May 8th, 2014 @ 12:45pm CDT

i love behind the scenes stuff.. takes away a bit of the "magic" but it's always interesting. Wish hasbro would do a documentary about the process and how it changed from back in the 70s and 80s to now with technological advances and also certain considerations such as health and safety etc

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572299)
Posted by shockblast2 on May 8th, 2014 @ 1:28pm CDT

No, Monday is long deserved vacation day.

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572300)
Posted by Megatron Wolf on May 8th, 2014 @ 1:31pm CDT

even when monday hits im sure there still wont be any transformers on the shelves around here, and hasbro hyping up the toyline this much has me worried.

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572301)
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on May 8th, 2014 @ 1:34pm CDT

Just an update for anyone who cares, Amazon appears to have either pulled or pre-order sold out of the wave 1 AOE stock. Maybe on Sunday more items will pop up as people drop orders, who knows.

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572303)
Posted by ScottyP on May 8th, 2014 @ 1:55pm CDT

I'm still waiting on stores. Seems dumb, I agree, but there's something fun about getting stuff at brick and mortar, plus the opportunity for that doesn't come around much anymore.

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572308)
Posted by MightyMagnus78 on May 8th, 2014 @ 2:14pm CDT

Looks like the only Prime I'll be getting from this line is the 'Evasion' mode.

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572314)
Posted by TFU2014 on May 8th, 2014 @ 2:36pm CDT

Looks like they acidentally painted the eyes and the

on Titan OP

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572331)
Posted by Primeultimus on May 8th, 2014 @ 3:54pm CDT

Bumblebee Evolution TRU Exclusive official pictures

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Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572339)
Posted by Va'al on May 8th, 2014 @ 4:14pm CDT

Seibertron.com staff member Mindmaster has spotted two new ConstructBots Dinowarriors at his local Toys'R'Us store in Wilmington, North Carolina! The sets, along with Optimus Prime and Gnaw, include Autobot Drift and the bounty hunter Lockdown, each with their respective dino-armor, Roughneck and Hangnail, and were priced at $12.99. Check out photo proof below!

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572344)
Posted by Va'al on May 8th, 2014 @ 4:23pm CDT

The by now infamous Transformers Colombia Facebook page has uploaded another set of images of an upcoming Transformers: Age of Extinction two-pack Evolution Toys'R'Us exclusive, this time featuring Bumblebee. The pack appears to include a repaint of the 2013 Generations Legends Bumblebee with a yellow repaint of the MechTech weapon that came with Dark of the Moon Deluxe Jolt, and a so far unseen Age of Extinction Deluxe, possibly the 2014 Camaro version of the character, with rotating blade like weapons. Check out the images mirrored below!

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572346)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 8th, 2014 @ 4:27pm CDT

That gun the Legends Bee has is the MechTech weapon that originally came with DOTM Deluxe Jolt.

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572347)
Posted by Va'al on May 8th, 2014 @ 4:30pm CDT

Sabrblade wrote:That gun the Legends Bee has is the MechTech weapon that originally came with DOTM Deluxe Jolt.

I knew I recognised it! Thanks, edited with gallery links too.

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572348)
Posted by Poyguimogul on May 8th, 2014 @ 4:32pm CDT

I like less colorful BEE and his new GHAT!

The AOE BEE car mode looks like a model built by a drunkard.

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572351)
Posted by necr0blivion on May 8th, 2014 @ 4:37pm CDT

What happened to movie Bumblebee's face?

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572353)
Posted by OptimalOptimus2 on May 8th, 2014 @ 4:42pm CDT

In the end of the video, you can see the Deluxe Lockdown looking at Hound!

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572354)
Posted by Noideaforaname on May 8th, 2014 @ 4:46pm CDT

Funny how both Bumblebees have the same kind of cheatsy transformation.

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572362)
Posted by ILL-Star on May 8th, 2014 @ 5:24pm CDT

Once he's transformed correctly, Bumblebee should look like a pretty decent figure.
The false chest doesn't bother me. It looks accurate so I'm happy. I really like the way the legs look.

I'm assuming that this is as good as seeing Stinger's deluxe robot mode as well.

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572365)
Posted by craggy on May 8th, 2014 @ 5:28pm CDT

Master Of The Dark Arts Bumblebee?

can he be sold all over the US even with those pentagrams?

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572369)
Posted by Grahf_ on May 8th, 2014 @ 5:32pm CDT

I was gonna ask what happened to all of the Blazemasters that's supposed to go with those Legends BBs but after reading that the gun is DOTM Jolts I think I have an answer, and more questions. Most of the time Targetmasters and Mechtech weapons are gang molded with their originally intended figures. Takara is releasing DOTM Jolts with new weapons so all the gang molded Mechtech weapons left over might be what they're using for these. Also Takara is releasing clear repaints of the first four legends Targetmasters so that's probably where this BB's Blazemasters went. But my new question is where did the legends Optimus Primes, Starscreams and Megatrons go? More repaints soon with new/no weapons?

Just me overthinking things...IGNORE ME!!!!!!!!

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572370)
Posted by Dr. Caelus on May 8th, 2014 @ 5:40pm CDT

I do not own Bumblebee/Blazemaster, but based on Megatron, Starscream, Swerve, and Cosmos, I do not believe the Legend's figures are gang molded with their targetmaster partners.

The mechtech weapons have been swapped all over the place to different figures, in DotM and since then. In DotM, I recall older figures, even, were released with newer MT weapons. So I don't think the mechtech weapons were gang-molded with anything either.

I'm less certain of the latter than the former, though.

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572373)
Posted by welcometothedarksyde on May 8th, 2014 @ 6:39pm CDT

Yuk, if that's this movie's Bumblebee count me out. They really shot themselves in the foot by making a design with no visible car parts.

ILL-Star wrote:Once he's transformed correctly, Bumblebee should look like a pretty decent figure.
The false chest doesn't bother me. It looks accurate so I'm happy. I really like the way the legs look.

I'm assuming that this is as good as seeing Stinger's deluxe robot mode as well.

Actually that might be why Bumblebee has such an unconvincing robot mode, so that he can be easily re-shelled into the Pagani Huayra alt-mode of Stinger.

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572378)
Posted by OptimalOptimus2 on May 8th, 2014 @ 7:03pm CDT

Ugh! This Deluxe Bumblebee is worse than Beast Machines Megatron Megabolt. It looks like an up-scaled version of a One-step Changer. I don't mind the Generations Bumblebee repaint.

craggy wrote:Master Of The Dark Arts Bumblebee?

can he be sold all over the US even with those pentagrams?

Ouch! I can see Bumblebee's weapons being recalled because parents would think this is inappropriate for kids. Or there could be variants of the weapons?

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572379)
Posted by dragons on May 8th, 2014 @ 7:04pm CDT

welcometothedarksyde wrote:Yuk, if that's this movie's Bumblebee count me out. They really shot themselves in the foot by making a design with no visible car parts.
ILL-Star wrote:Once he's transformed correctly, Bumblebee should look like a pretty decent figure.
The false chest doesn't bother me. It looks accurate so I'm happy. I really like the way the legs look.

I'm assuming that this is as good as seeing Stinger's deluxe robot mode as well.

Actually that might be why Bumblebee has such an unconvincing robot mode, so that he can be easily re-shelled into the Pagani Huayra alt-mode of Stinger.

Sounds bit shallow cant tell if he is decent figure or not by looking at him now bee looks good bit lazy looking not much diffence from previous bee movie with new paint detail on his chest and face

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572380)
Posted by Doubledealer93 on May 8th, 2014 @ 7:14pm CDT

man, this looks bad. it would not be so bad if it were not such a bad shell former. i could forgive it if something was done about that back kibble.

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572385)
Posted by TimothyR on May 8th, 2014 @ 7:31pm CDT

such a terrible shell former.. i knew this was going to happen simply because of the new design of the robot.

it's such a shame that they totally screwed themselves for this entire toy line.

also..why doesn't hasbro understand that people like bumblebee's battle mask much more than they do his actual face. his battle mask in this movie is extremely cool, but no, we get the standard redundant bumblebee face.

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572400)
Posted by swagitron on May 8th, 2014 @ 8:31pm CDT

His wannabe ninja stars look stupid. I wonder how stinger will turn out

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572410)
Posted by MagnusLabel on May 8th, 2014 @ 9:24pm CDT

Thanks for designing shellformers and shelf warmers.
I'm going for ROTF & DOTM Optimus.

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572414)
Posted by Flashwave on May 8th, 2014 @ 9:41pm CDT

Anyone else seeing IDW Bee in that? Similar transformation, kibbke, rear end vehucle profile? No?

Alpha Weltall wrote:I was gonna ask what happened to all of the Blazemasters that's supposed to go with those Legends BBs but after reading that the gun is DOTM Jolts I think I have an answer, and more questions. Most of the time Targetmasters and Mechtech weapons are gang molded with their originally intended figures. Takara is releasing DOTM Jolts with new weapons so all the gang molded Mechtech weapons left over might be what they're using for these. Also Takara is releasing clear repaints of the first four legends Targetmasters so that's probably where this BB's Blazemasters went. But my new question is where did the legends Optimus Primes, Starscreams and Megatrons go? More repaints soon with new/no weapons?

Just me overthinking things...IGNORE ME!!!!!!!!

Dont hink thats the case, as a lot of Mechtech weapons gt tossed around and I don't think thats the case. Could be wrong. Also, when I think of gang molding, i tend to think that the majority of the plastics are shared. Crumplezone and Cyclinus, he Micromaster teams, etc. Being that Bee and Blazenaster are different colors, Different bases, not sure they are a single shared mold. Although we are getting Arms Micron Jolt, so you could be on to something.

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572419)
Posted by T-Macksimus on May 8th, 2014 @ 9:49pm CDT

OptimalOptimus2 wrote:Ugh! This Deluxe Bumblebee is worse than Beast Machines Megatron Megabolt. It looks like an up-scaled version of a One-step Changer. I don't mind the Generations Bumblebee repaint.
craggy wrote:Master Of The Dark Arts Bumblebee?

can he be sold all over the US even with those pentagrams?

Ouch! I can see Bumblebee's weapons being recalled because parents would think this is inappropriate for kids. Or there could be variants of the weapons?

OMG!! The ignorance! It BURNS!!!!

Any parent mistaking those PENTACLE resembling items for satanic pentagrams (big freaking difference) deserves to have their ass beat for being so blatantly stupid AND procreating. And for the record, those resemble pentacles only in the vaguest sense.
FFS people...EDUCATE YOURSELVES! You're already on the internet, use it for good for once!

Now then... getting back to the main topic that I was going to be an ass about before I felt the need to make a detour: Isn't the whole concept of "Evolution" supposed to be about changing from one form to a higher form? 'Cause I'm not seeing it here in this two pack. Furthermore, I think they should stop screwing us over with these mini-figures packaged with the deluxe figures. The first Bumblebee Evolution pack that had Classics 'Bee with Deluxe Movie Bee was far superior and much less insulting than this meager offering. This isn't evolution on Hasbro's part, this is a massive step BACKWARDS! :HEADHURTS:

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572437)
Posted by Rated X on May 8th, 2014 @ 11:11pm CDT

I want to lock Michael Bay inside a yellow camaro and dump it somewhere deep in the ocean. Enough with the damn Bumblebees !

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572471)
Posted by King Kuuga on May 9th, 2014 @ 4:50am CDT

Rated X wrote:I want to lock Michael Bay inside a yellow camaro and dump it somewhere deep in the ocean. Enough with the damn Bumblebees !

I like your thinking, that's a very "Stick it to the man!" gesture. It's widely known, of course, that the General Motors Corporation and Michael Bay are directly responsible for the case assortments of all Transformers product and they are the ones demanding that Hasbro include half a dozen Bumblebee toys in every case. Just imagine if we lived in a twisted world where Bay and GM had nothing to do with that and instead the retailers were in control of case assortment and product ordering. I'm sure that in such a world, we would get perfectly balanced cases and every new assortment of figures would ship in droves, especially the Generations because obviously nostalgic adult collectors have more buying power than young children and their parents. Unfortunately we do not live in such a world, and so I applaud your suggestion that directly addresses the parties responsible for the abundance of Bees.
:APPLAUSE:

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572491)
Posted by shockblast2 on May 9th, 2014 @ 7:55am CDT

Umm....why does Bumblebee have pentagrams for weapons?

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572492)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 9th, 2014 @ 8:02am CDT

shockblast2 wrote:Umm....why does Bumblebee have pentagrams for weapons?

T-Macks already explained it (in his usual eloquent manner):

T-Macksimus wrote:OMG!! The ignorance! It BURNS!!!!

Any parent mistaking those PENTACLE resembling items for satanic pentagrams (big freaking difference) deserves to have their ass beat for being so blatantly stupid AND procreating. And for the record, those resemble pentacles only in the vaguest sense.
FFS people...EDUCATE YOURSELVES! You're already on the internet, use it for good for once!

Yep, that's our T-Macks.

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572503)
Posted by Primeultimus on May 9th, 2014 @ 8:18am CDT

Leader Class Bumblebee Age Of Extinction Official Boxed picture

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Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572505)
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on May 9th, 2014 @ 8:22am CDT

Sabrblade wrote:
shockblast2 wrote:Umm....why does Bumblebee have pentagrams for weapons?
T-Macks already explained it (in his usual eloquent manner):
T-Macksimus wrote:OMG!! The ignorance! It BURNS!!!!

Any parent mistaking those PENTACLE resembling items for satanic pentagrams (big freaking difference) deserves to have their ass beat for being so blatantly stupid AND procreating. And for the record, those resemble pentacles only in the vaguest sense.
FFS people...EDUCATE YOURSELVES! You're already on the internet, use it for good for once!
Yep, that's our T-Macks.

And to my knowledge, a Pentagram (a five-pointed star made out of 5 straight lines as per definition) is only Satanic in nature with one point aiming down to... that place.

And I must say: called a Legends mold, but not the one I was expecting :lol:

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572506)
Posted by reluctantyouth on May 9th, 2014 @ 8:24am CDT

Oh Gawd

...

If this is the only deluxe (please God let it be) of the new Camaro design we get...then why the hell can't we get one that is a uniformed yellow color. :shock:

? It would be nice if the shellformer was properly transformed as it looks to be taking straight from package and photographed.

Stop paying your photographers the big bucks Hasbro!!! I'm sure you have an intern or 12 with an IPHONE (piece a crap) in their little pockets to take pictures for you!!! [-(

~reluctantyouth~

Re: Video Review - Transformers: Age of Extinction Leader Class Optimus Prime (1572507)
Posted by shockblast2 on May 9th, 2014 @ 8:37am CDT

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
shockblast2 wrote:Umm....why does Bumblebee have pentagrams for weapons?
T-Macks already explained it (in his usual eloquent manner):
T-Macksimus wrote:OMG!! The ignorance! It BURNS!!!!

Any parent mistaking those PENTACLE resembling items for satanic pentagrams (big freaking difference) deserves to have their ass beat for being so blatantly stupid AND procreating. And for the record, those resemble pentacles only in the vaguest sense.
FFS people...EDUCATE YOURSELVES! You're already on the internet, use it for good for once!
Yep, that's our T-Macks.

And to my knowledge, a Pentagram (a five-pointed star made out of 5 straight lines as per definition) is only Satanic in nature with one point aiming down to... that place.

And I must say: called a Legends mold, but not the one I was expecting

Not true. The pentacle, or pentagram, as we call it today, is a magic symbol used in the worship of the horned god, Pan. Or Satan, as we call him today. Doesn't matter which way it is pointing, however, I do believe most wiccans and the like face the point due north.

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