Video Review - Takara Tomy Transformers Legends LG40 Astrotrain

Hey woah woah, wtf? has anyone else gotten this message regarding their legends Lio Convoy order?




Has he actually been released this month or no?

Now I just need to wait until TFSource gets this guy (Astrotrain) in stock.

william-james88 wrote:Hey woah woah, wtf? has anyone else gotten this message regarding their legends Lio Convoy order?




Has he actually been released this month or no?

Weird! My order is through amiami. I haven't received any correspondence from them.
I feel like I heard the 17th was his release date.

Cobotron wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Hey woah woah, wtf? has anyone else gotten this message regarding their legends Lio Convoy order?




Has he actually been released this month or no?

Weird! My order is through amiami. I haven't received any correspondence from them.
I feel like I heard the 17th was his release date.

Well, I hope it comes sooner than later for you guys. The Resistance needs its leader.

Wolfman Jake wrote:Now I just need to wait until TFSource gets this guy (Astrotrain) in stock.

Amazon Japan has it in stock now and they'll ship to the US. Total cost was roughly 0.09 less than BBTS before shipping. Ordered on a Saturday, got it on a Tuesday. Also Amazon Japan says they'll have Lio Convoy on the 25th.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:Now I just need to wait until TFSource gets this guy (Astrotrain) in stock.

Amazon Japan has it in stock now and they'll ship to the US. Total cost was roughly 0.09 less than BBTS before shipping. Ordered on a Saturday, got it on a Tuesday. Also Amazon Japan says they'll have Lio Convoy on the 25th.

I've already got Astrotrain preordered at TFSource, and will be converting some of my saved up Source Points for money off. Right now, it'll pay to be patient, but if (when) the US economy tanks again, Amazon Japan may become a viable option going forward.

Silly question regarding Legends Astrotrain: how are his joints compared to either TR Astrotrain and Sentinel Prime? The TR one I've read has some minor joint issues, especially in the legs.

I haven't heard anything on Lio either, but I'm also amiami.

Astrotrain Pics and Comparisons in (my) Hand

Hey you can get these to use with your transformers

Stuartmaximus wrote:Hey you can get these to use with your transformers

I'd be all over these, but the prices are prohibitive.

Astrotrain looks awesome! The painted details like the windows seriously put him up a notch.

carytheone wrote:

Titans Return/Takara Legends Blaster and Soundwave are great "Classics" versions of themselves, but it still irks me a bit that they are Leader sized. Voyager size would have been absolutely perfect. Still, I'm using both Leader figures in my respective Autobot and Decepticon displays. Blaster doesn't look too out of place, as he was always a bigger guy, but I keep him separated from Jetfire so as not to ruin the scale illusion. Soundwave, on the other hand, is noticeably bigger than my United Voyager Megatron, and absolutely dwarfs all the seekers. >.<

There is kind of mini-scale of themselves for things like CW leaders and Titan Leaders. Soundwave is really only that big to allow for his gimmick to work.

I'm looking forward to the downscaled MP Soundwave KO sometime this year (if it happens) but there is always the WFC/FOC Voyager I guess.

But it's odd that there isn't very many Soundwaves that are Voyager size that are actually some sort of G1 related Soundwave. There are a few Deluxe size ones like the Device label one or the WFC Deluxe.

(And yes I count WFC/FOC as more G1 related than I do perpetuate the pretty Fantasy that the is such a thing as the aligned continuity still.

Mostly as it's completely ridiculous to say FOC is a prequel to Transformers Prime).

But you never know they may make another smaller Voyager Soundwave in Prime Wars 3.0

Indeed, I understand why Soundwave and Blaster are the size they are. I also used their FoC Voyager versions as their "Classics" selves for quite a long time, but they just don't fit very well aesthetically compared to their '84/'85 compatriots, who are all (mostly) real world based vehicles and objects. The much more Cybertronian alt modes for the FoC bunch mesh a little better with some of the more whimsical/futuristic designs from '86 and onwards, but those aren't really their intended "peers" as far as I'm concerned. I'd love for Hasbro/Takara to just do solid voyager Classics versions of not only Soundwave and Blaster, but Ironhide, Ratchet, Trailbreaker, and Hoist...and all the Seekers...and Shockwave. Is that so much to ask, lol?

I think an update of Soundwave as a surveillance van and Blaster as an SVU/sound system on wheels would be fun and fitting for each character's personality.

Wolfman Jake wrote:Indeed, I understand why Soundwave and Blaster are the size they are. I also used their FoC Voyager versions as their "Classics" selves for quite a long time, but they just don't fit very well aesthetically compared to their '84/'85 compatriots, who are all (mostly) real world based vehicles and objects. The much more Cybertronian alt modes for the FoC bunch mesh a little better with some of the more whimsical/futuristic designs from '86 and onwards, but those aren't really their intended "peers" as far as I'm concerned. I'd love for Hasbro/Takara to just do solid voyager Classics versions of not only Soundwave and Blaster, but Ironhide, Ratchet, Trailbreaker, and Hoist...and all the Seekers...and Shockwave. Is that so much to ask, lol?

I think an update of Soundwave as a surveillance van and Blaster as an SVU/sound system on wheels would be fun and fitting for each character's personality.

TFA did a van of SW. Not good. If it was the DonFig design on the other hand, it would have been awesome!

TF PR's twitter account has posted the first image we have of Transformers Legends LG 41 Lio Convoy in package. As with most Legends toys, he comes in his alt mode. He is scheduled for release at the end of this month, along with other Move the Best Figures. We also included a few other images below such as MP Primal on Lio Convoy, Lio Convoy with MP Starscream's cloak and an image of Lio Convoy's ship the Yukikaze for you to see the source of inspiration behind the spaceship mode ship mode.

I like how they've done the head pylons; the colours used give the illusions that the gold parts are sticking out of the actual head rather than from sticks coming out of the neckbase.

I am I the only failing to see the similarities with Leo's ship mode and the Yukikaze? The white is almost the same... but that's it. Is it supposed to be a reference to the ship?

Nexus Knight wrote:I am I the only failing to see the similarities with Leo's ship mode and the Yukikaze? The white is almost the same... but that's it. Is it supposed to be a reference to the ship?

I don't see it either, honestly.

Sigma Magnus wrote:

Nexus Knight wrote:I am I the only failing to see the similarities with Leo's ship mode and the Yukikaze? The white is almost the same... but that's it. Is it supposed to be a reference to the ship?

I don't see it either, honestly.

It's a pretty loose interpretation. I think what Will was pointing out is that Takara was referencing something specific, instead of it just being a random "Space Cruiser".

Cobotron wrote:

Sigma Magnus wrote:

Nexus Knight wrote:I am I the only failing to see the similarities with Leo's ship mode and the Yukikaze? The white is almost the same... but that's it. Is it supposed to be a reference to the ship?

I don't see it either, honestly.

It's a pretty loose interpretation. I think what Will was pointing out is that Takara was referencing something specific, instead of it just being a random "Space Cruiser".

So instead of him captaining the Yukikaze he is the Yukikaze? That's... pretty neat, actually. Wish Hasbro had done something similar w/ AT.

Japan , when are you never awesome? * remembers something* Oh... right.

It looks a more Macross/Gundam style of ship (or something from Space Engineers) than it does Leo's

Nexus Knight wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

Sigma Magnus wrote:

Nexus Knight wrote:I am I the only failing to see the similarities with Leo's ship mode and the Yukikaze? The white is almost the same... but that's it. Is it supposed to be a reference to the ship?

I don't see it either, honestly.

It's a pretty loose interpretation. I think what Will was pointing out is that Takara was referencing something specific, instead of it just being a random "Space Cruiser".

So instead of him captaining the Yukikaze he is the Yukikaze? That's... pretty neat, actually.

But is that the official word, though? Did Takara actually claim that they're using the ship mode to represent the Yukikaze, or even that they simply colored it in homage to the Yukikaze, or is it just an assumption that we fans have made? Cuz I don't recall hearing anything from an official source about the ship mode being the Yukikaze or even just being colored after it.

To me, it just looks like the base plastic colors carried over from the other modes into the ship mode, while the windows got painted blue because blue is an extremely common color that windows typically get painted on toy vehicles.

After all, the Yukikaze was predominately cream and violet, and there's not a speck of violet anywhere on this toy, let alone its ship mode. Also, there's no giant blue Maximal symbols on either side of the ship mode, which were proudly displayed on the Yukikaze in places where this toy instead just has plain white surfaces that could have easily had a blue tampo'd onto each one (and since these surfaces are the inside of the lion head halves, the symbols wouldn't show up in lion mode, and would be behind Lio Convoy in robot mode).

Sigma Magnus wrote:

Nexus Knight wrote:I am I the only failing to see the similarities with Leo's ship mode and the Yukikaze? The white is almost the same... but that's it. Is it supposed to be a reference to the ship?

I don't see it either, honestly.

Its a loose interpretation. And I just added that detail for us to see if it even is a decent interpretation or not.

The part that makes me think there is definite intent is that blue cockpit at the top, its exactly where that same blue can be found on the Yakikaze

I wann see this guy next to the Dawn of Future's Past Maximals. The TFCC Leo just doesnt have the bulk this one has to match the Cybertron era figures.

Guess I'll have to be the one to make it happen.

Flashwave wrote:I wann see this guy next to the Dawn of Future's Past Maximals. The TFCC Leo just doesnt have the bulk this one has to match the Cybertron era figures.

Guess I'll have to be the one to make it happen.

And when you do, we could news it (if you send it quick enough after this guy gets released)

william-james88 wrote:

Sigma Magnus wrote:

Nexus Knight wrote:I am I the only failing to see the similarities with Leo's ship mode and the Yukikaze? The white is almost the same... but that's it. Is it supposed to be a reference to the ship?

I don't see it either, honestly.

Its a loose interpretation. And I just added that detail for us to see if it even is a decent interpretation or not.

The part that makes me think there is definite intent is that blue cockpit at the top, its exactly where that same blue can be found on the Yakikaze

Sorry, WJ88, I'm gonna have to give this idea the thumbs down as well. The human brain is wired to figure out patterns, which is why we often want to see patterns where there are none, hence wanting the alt mode for Legends Leo Convoy to mean more than it really does. This is also why conspiracy theories can be so compelling, since they give agenda and reason to events that are random, and therefore scary. Of course, I'm not trying to say that you're a conspiracy theorist, lol! Any similarity at all between the Yukikaze and Legends Lio Convoy's spaceship mode is just coincidence, in my opinion.

Yeah, like I said above, blue windows are a dime a dozen on toy vehicles.

*awaits the translation of the bio*

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:*awaits the translation of the bio*

In the meantime, one could use the backstory for this toy that the Club breathed life into for Beast Wars: Uprising.

Sabrblade wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:*awaits the translation of the bio*

In the meantime, one could use the backstory for this toy that the Club breathed life into for Beast Wars: Uprising.

I'm not quite sure, but I'm starting to think you might like Beast Wars: Uprising

Kurona wrote:I'm not quite sure, but I'm starting to think you might like Beast Wars: Uprising

It's arguably the most prolific fiction the Club ever put out (for free, even, save for some few magazine-only stuff).

Arguably some of the most prolific TF fiction ever, right up there with some of James Roberts' works. Jim Sorenson and David Bishop are darn good writers.

Sabrblade wrote:

Kurona wrote:I'm not quite sure, but I'm starting to think you might like Beast Wars: Uprising

It's arguably the most prolific fiction the Club ever put out (for free, even, save for some few magazine-only stuff).

Arguably some of the most prolific TF fiction ever, right up there with some of James Roberts' works. Jim Sorenson and David Bishop are darn good writers.

Can't say I have any doubt of that - TFCC fiction has already struck a chord with me as second only to IDW in terms of quality TF fiction thanks to Of Masters and Mayhem. That Alpha Bravo/Offroad story, man...

... I meant, to see if the Yukikaze got a mention in it. I mean, Energon Sharkticon got turned into the Axalon and Cybertron Unicron was made from the Ark. Who knows what the writers are thinking?

Wait a sec, guys! Look at the packaging! In both English and Katakana, the name reads as "Leo Prime" instead of "Lio Convoy". I get their using it for the English name, but for the Katakana too?

And his function on the packaging in English reads "Ancient -----ot". Could that be "Ancient Autobot"? If so, that's bizarre considering he's a character from the future.

Sabrblade wrote:Wait a sec, guys! Look at the packaging! In both English and Katakana, the name reads as "Leo Prime" instead of "Lio Convoy". I get their using it for the English name, but for the Katakana too?

And his function on the packaging in English reads "Ancient -----ot". Could that be "Ancient Autobot"? If so, that's bizarre considering he's a character from the future.

That... is very strange. If it's another clone situation like Convobat or a predecessor situation or, just generally, a different character; the choice to have Sentinel's face doesn't bother me as much as it does if this is supposed to be Lio Convoy.

Sabrblade wrote:Wait a sec, guys! Look at the packaging! In both English and Katakana, the name reads as "Leo Prime" instead of "Lio Convoy". I get their using it for the English name, but for the Katakana too?

And his function on the packaging in English reads "Ancient -----ot". Could that be "Ancient Autobot"? If so, that's bizarre considering he's a character from the future.

Prime Arms Micron Leo Prime is an aged, dimension-hopping incarnation of Lio Convoy, so this could be an alternate form of him.

It is coming out late February? When did the release date change from February 14th? He was going to be my Special Valentine for Saint Valentine's Day!

Nik Hero wrote:It is coming out late February? When did the release date change from February 14th? He was going to be my Special Valentine for Saint Valentine's Day!

Can youshow me where his release date read February 14th?

The resemblance to the old Cartoon space craft could be made stronger by not folding the side pods down.

Is that an MP-11 cape he's wearing then ?
Anyone tried that out with Alpha Trion yet ?

I thought the figure being called Leo Prime rather than Lio Convoy was old news? It was written that way in magazine articles and Japan-only stores, it's not like the box was the first time we'd seen it spelled out.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:I thought the figure being called Leo Prime rather than Lio Convoy was old news? It was written that way in magazine articles and Japan-only stores, it's not like the box was the first time we'd seen it spelled out.

Emerje

Tis the first time we've seen it come from the source of TakaraTomy itself. Online shops and such don't always label their toy listings correctly.

Sabrblade wrote:

Emerje wrote:I thought the figure being called Leo Prime rather than Lio Convoy was old news? It was written that way in magazine articles and Japan-only stores, it's not like the box was the first time we'd seen it spelled out.

Emerje

Tis the first time we've seen it come from the source of TakaraTomy itself. Online shops and such don't always label their toy listings correctly.

e-Hobby is a Japanese store that only sells to Japan, they have no reason to list it as anything other than what Takara Tomy tells them to, same with the magazines. If it were HLJ which regularly changes Japanese names into English ones I could understand some skepticism, but you aren't going to see that from sources that cater only to Japan. AmiAmi also gives all of their toy listings in Japanese under the English name (トランスフォーマーレジェンズ LG41 レオプライム). Now, if it really does say "Ancient Autobot" behind his leg then that is something new.

Emerje

william-james88 wrote:

Nik Hero wrote:It is coming out late February? When did the release date change from February 14th? He was going to be my Special Valentine for Saint Valentine's Day!

Can youshow me where his release date read February 14th?

It was on tfw2005 boards

Nik Hero wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Nik Hero wrote:It is coming out late February? When did the release date change from February 14th? He was going to be my Special Valentine for Saint Valentine's Day!

Can youshow me where his release date read February 14th?

It was on tfw2005 boards

Thats just people talking, like you and me here, was there an actual source? Please paste the link in a reply.

fenrir72 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:Issues with the tabletcons.

Unlike Broadcast and rewind, the latter slides in smoothly. But in SW, Ravage has some issues. The pseudo screw gets in the way of the basket like device that holds the tablets in. Haven't opened Condor yet. Hopefully no issues with him too.

Funy enough, even though I have all the tabletcons and soundwave, I havent played with them together yet. For some reason I have had enough fun playing with them individually. I should get on to that though.

Could you also check if the issues I have are the same with yours? That d@mn pseudo screw

Ok so I finally had a chance to check and yeah Ravage is not a smooth entry. The jaguar head side fares a bit better though. Rewind/Rumble is super smooth on the end that is less wide.

See thats the trick to a good penetration, you have to be less wide at the tip to slide down better.

william-james88 wrote:See thats the trick to a good penetration, you have to be less wide at the tip to slide down better.

Emerje

Lio more or less gets released on the last week of February 2017 in Japan. Emphasis on Japan online stores.