Video Review Offers First Look at Kingdom Voyager Tigatron

A far, far better rendition of the character than Cheetor is, especially since Tigatron actually gets his gun!

The twinges of off-white look a bit odd, almost like he was left out in the sun and discolored. I guess it's accurate to the original toy, but it just looks...off. I'd prefer all white.

Great looking figure Tigatron was always one of my favorites. Also thanks for the Gut Gun Hasbro can't wait for this to go up for pre-order.

WeatherManNX01 wrote:The twinges of off-white look a bit odd, almost like he was left out in the sun and discolored. I guess it's accurate to the original toy, but it just looks...off. I'd prefer all white.

His cartoon model had those.

Sabrblade wrote:

WeatherManNX01 wrote:The twinges of off-white look a bit odd, almost like he was left out in the sun and discolored. I guess it's accurate to the original toy, but it just looks...off. I'd prefer all white.

His cartoon model had those.

As do real life white tigers, which is what this line seems to be going for. "All white" tigers aren't real (nor are they an actual species), it's just a condition where most of their orange fur is white instead but bits of the orange fur is still there, creating that offwhite effect.

WeatherManNX01 wrote:A far, far better rendition of the character than Cheetor is, especially since Tigatron actually gets his gun!

The twinges of off-white look a bit odd, almost like he was left out in the sun and discolored. I guess it's accurate to the original toy, but it just looks...off. I'd prefer all white.

The original toy was a single, homogeneous tone of white, it's accurate to real white tigers, which often have darker or dirtier patches in their fur.

edit: lol, three of us corrected the guy at the same time, what a bunch of nerds

I like Tigatron a lot from the looks of things. I'm in the unpopular belief that Cheetor isn't half-bad (he's flawed, but not bad) and Tigatron is still leaps and bounds of an improvement. Personally I was hoping his gut gun would store. I wasn't personally attached to the gut gun so it being absent from Cheetor didn't bother me but it's still nice to see it with Tigatron.

When seeing group shots, I can't help but feel that Rhinox sticks out like a sore thumb. Ignoring accuracy, he still doesn't fit in with the rest of the Maximals.

Rtron wrote:

WeatherManNX01 wrote:A far, far better rendition of the character than Cheetor is, especially since Tigatron actually gets his gun!

The twinges of off-white look a bit odd, almost like he was left out in the sun and discolored. I guess it's accurate to the original toy, but it just looks...off. I'd prefer all white.

The original toy was a single, homogeneous tone of white, it's accurate to real white tigers, which often have darker or dirtier patches in their fur.

edit: lol, three of us corrected the guy at the same time, what a bunch of nerds

I think the off-white parts are not the problem, I think the parts that are monotonically milk-white are the problem (like the tiger-back). If they had picked another shade of white the contrast would not be this big.

Tigatron has turned out pretty good, the shared parts and identical transformation to Cheetor doesn't surprise or disappoint me, because I do like Cheetor and there's enough differences with Tigatron so that he feels like his own unique thing. I'm looking forward to this one.

Nuclearxpotato wrote:When seeing group shots, I can't help but feel that Rhinox sticks out like a sore thumb. Ignoring accuracy, he still doesn't fit in with the rest of the Maximals.

In which way does he not fit for you?

Rtron wrote:
edit: lol, three of us corrected the guy at the same time, what a bunch of nerds

LOL

Wow, never knew Tigatron was so we'll liked. Cool to see as he was my favorite as well. I just remember having the Hasbro/Kenner one and it being a cream white as opposed to the Takara one which was a pure white.

o.supreme wrote:Wow, never knew Tigatron was so we'll liked. Cool to see as he was my favorite as well. I just remember having the Hasbro/Kenner one and it being a cream white as opposed to the Takara one which was a pure white.

He's definitely a beloved character, one of my favourites as well. And I would say of all Beast Wars characters, he's the one that really embodies the theme of this new era with his personality (really owning to the idea of a beast mode).

I see some comments (not here) claiming that this is a stolen sample and I don't get it. This product is packaged and ready for distribution. Don't know how PVP got it, don't care, but this is clearly not a toy stolen from the factory floor. I thought people were smarter.

o.supreme wrote:Wow, never knew Tigatron was so we'll liked. Cool to see as he was my favorite as well. I just remember having the Hasbro/Kenner one and it being a cream white as opposed to the Takara one which was a pure white.

Never had the toy, only managed to get a Cheetor knockoff like in 2001. But I loved Tigatron's character in the tv show, I'm pretty sure he's a fan favorite, just a bit low-key because he isn't as flashy or on screen as much as guys like Dinobot or Waspinator were.

william-james88 wrote:

Nuclearxpotato wrote:When seeing group shots, I can't help but feel that Rhinox sticks out like a sore thumb. Ignoring accuracy, he still doesn't fit in with the rest of the Maximals.

In which way does he not fit for you?

I'm not sure, he just looks off. I think his arms are the most "off" thing about him. He looks like a figure from an entirely different toyline when compared to other Kingdom toys.

william-james88 wrote:I see some comments (not here) claiming that this is a stolen sample and I don't get it. This product is packaged and ready for distribution. Don't know how PVP got it, don't care, but this is clearly not a toy stolen from the factory floor. I thought people were smarter.

It's definitely still stolen, but it's just a more completed sample as opposed to his usual factory floor samples. There's currently no way he obtained one legitimately unless Hasbro's prepared Wave 4 to drop next month... which obviously isn't the case.

It certainly helps that Blu Mankuma put on the performance he did as Tigatron
He sounds awesome

Gotta love Amazon. This morning they sent me an email notice they pushed Tracks back to September. An hour ago they sent me an email notice he shipped and will be there tomorrow, and they price matched Target at $19.99. Alrighty then. Time to cancel my backup from Target.

Nuclearxpotato wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Nuclearxpotato wrote:When seeing group shots, I can't help but feel that Rhinox sticks out like a sore thumb. Ignoring accuracy, he still doesn't fit in with the rest of the Maximals.

In which way does he not fit for you?

I'm not sure, he just looks off. I think his arms are the most "off" thing about him. He looks like a figure from an entirely different toyline when compared to other Kingdom toys.

You mean to say that the figure with a 1:1 height to width ratio somehow has a different built than the figures that seem to have a 3:1 height to width ratio?

TF-fan kev777 wrote:Gotta love Amazon. This morning they sent me an email notice they pushed Tracks back to September. An hour ago they sent me an email notice he shipped and will be there tomorrow, and they price matched Target at $19.99. Alrighty then. Time to cancel my backup from Target.

They've pushed up the release of my Core Soundwave twice now. First they said September, then mid August, and now July 28. Earlier the better, it's just strange that they keep doing this.

Meanwhile my wave 3 Deluxes that were supposed to be here Wednesday from Target have been sitting in Massachusetts since Wednesday morning. It's already 5:30pm and the tracking still says it hasn't moved despite also insisting it'll be delivered today just as it did yesterday (not moving, but still coming that day).

Emerje

The only thing I find a bit puzzling about Tigatron is the use of the tail as a tail whip instead of the classic rump gun. There's a whole portion of the beast mode back hanging off the robot mode as a useless flap. Why not just make that and the tail a single detachable accessory that folds into a gun? It would have solved a part of the transformation, made a callback to the original figure, given the figure a cooler weapon than just a ripped off tail, and it's the same amount of parts. Maybe even less parts, as they've probably left out the metal pin that way.

Sculyblast wrote:

Nuclearxpotato wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Nuclearxpotato wrote:When seeing group shots, I can't help but feel that Rhinox sticks out like a sore thumb. Ignoring accuracy, he still doesn't fit in with the rest of the Maximals.

In which way does he not fit for you?

I'm not sure, he just looks off. I think his arms are the most "off" thing about him. He looks like a figure from an entirely different toyline when compared to other Kingdom toys.

You mean to say that the figure with a 1:1 height to width ratio somehow has a different built than the figures that seem to have a 3:1 height to width ratio?

No not different in terms of his character design but his actual figure's design.
This Rhinox doesn't sit well with me and I don't really know why. The T30 version seems to fit slightly better with the Kingdom crowd, but I've heard that figure has plenty of problems on its own.

Maybe in hand he'll look better, but images don't seem too flattering for him.

Tigatron is absolutely perfect. I'm looking forward getting him.

Tigatron looks amazing, I'm really looking forwards to him now more so than ever (and seeing the other 3 new figures in that wave, since Waspinator leaked a while ago at this point).

Overcracker wrote:The eyes aren't dead though, they are black with white around them.

Though maybe people expected them to be bright metallic green.

Looking at the close-up shots here and on TFW, the eyes ARE a yellowish-green with black pupils, but the black AROUND the eyes is thick enough that from a further away perspective, the eyes appear black.

Nuclearxpotato wrote:No not different in terms of his character design but his actual figure's design.
This Rhinox doesn't sit well with me and I don't really know why. The T30 version seems to fit slightly better with the Kingdom crowd, but I've heard that figure has plenty of problems on its own.

Maybe in hand he'll look better, but images don't seem too flattering for him.

Yeah, I have the T30 figure in front of me right now and have seen the Kingdom one in-person at Target, and it really looks like the only things the Kingdom figure does better is the bigger chest jaw (but it's got visible hinges in it's center and it's proportions are still off from the show model), actual paint on the guns (but the guns themselves are tiny and pathetic), and I would assume tighter hips, other than that the molding and the colors are just too off.

Tigatron looks good. I'm glad he's getting released and I'm sure I'll get it.

Does anyone else get the feeling that PrimeVsPrime's reviews are a little disingenuous? His early-release reviews are overly-gushing. I like almost all Transformers figures too, but I get the sense that he receives early releases because they know he is very rarely going to be critical of the figures.

My excitement over Tigatron and the kingdom line in general made me want to rewatch the series on tubi

And I noticed that scorponoks missiles have Maximal symbols on them. Not sure if thats a mistake or the intention is for for missiles to be Maximal seeking or something

Razorbeast88 wrote:My excitement over Tigatron and the kingdom line in general made me want to rewatch the series on tubi

And I noticed that scorponoks missiles have Maximal symbols on them. Not sure if thats a mistake or the intention is for for missiles to be Maximal seeking or something

Funny you mention that because I believe the intent was Maximal seeking or Maximal kill count, but Hasbro told Mainframe to remove it in future episodes to avoid that confusion

Ravage continues to look stunning. That is an easy grab for me.

Tigatron looks great!! Wow they did him good! I am excited to get him!

I've seen more people on Twitter getting Tracks, and continued disappointment. I want Road Rage, but I have the MP already, and not sure if I want to try out that mold at all

Sentinel_Primal wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:My excitement over Tigatron and the kingdom line in general made me want to rewatch the series on tubi

And I noticed that scorponoks missiles have Maximal symbols on them. Not sure if thats a mistake or the intention is for for missiles to be Maximal seeking or something

Funny you mention that because I believe the intent was Maximal seeking or Maximal kill count, but Hasbro told Mainframe to remove it in future episodes to avoid that I remember that and I thought it was a kill count like on old fighter airplanes.

And I am very glad I got Tigatron preordered when the Amazon link first went live. I have no problems with my Cheetor and would like a bigger cat on the Maximal crew

Got my wingfinger from target today. Figured out how to incorporate att the parts into the combined mode, except for primal's mace. Even gave him a gun, a tail, and what I am calling a "Bone-arang" adding the chest tusks really give me a magnaboss homage feeling. Sadly my oaleotrex is sooooooooo loose the combined form is really kind of a floppy mess. Has anyone come up with a name for this bag-o-bones? Will probably do a proper review on this soon. Been sick and packing for moving, so no telling when.

o.supreme wrote:Wow, never knew Tigatron was so we'll liked. Cool to see as he was my favorite as well. I just remember having the Hasbro/Kenner one and it being a cream white as opposed to the Takara one which was a pure white.

Yeah, Tigatron had several standout episodes in Season 1 that made him both likable and memorable: "A Better Mousetrap", both parts of "The Trigger", "Call of the Wild", and especially "Law of the Jungle".

Sabrblade wrote:

o.supreme wrote:Wow, never knew Tigatron was so we'll liked. Cool to see as he was my favorite as well. I just remember having the Hasbro/Kenner one and it being a cream white as opposed to the Takara one which was a pure white.

Yeah, Tigatron had several standout episodes in Season 1 that made him both likable and memorable: "A Better Mousetrap", both parts of "The Trigger", "Call of the Wild", and especially "Law of the Jungle".

Always one of my faves as well. I hold a lot of that to his voice actor Blu Mankuma and his amazing emotional range. He could go from calm and serene to gutteral growls. Just like a tiger.

Nuclearxpotato wrote:It's definitely still stolen, but it's just a more completed sample as opposed to his usual factory floor samples. There's currently no way he obtained one legitimately unless Hasbro's prepared Wave 4 to drop next month... which obviously isn't the case.

But it being packaged proves that it is the case. Hasbro wont hold onto ready to ship product. We followed them every step of the way in their Unicron campaign, the packaging is the last step and they ship directly to distributors (which is probably who expedited the figure to PVP). So yeah, this product is distribution ready, the review confirms that. Hasbro is indeed prepared to drop the wave 4 voyagers within the next month or so. This is the same time frame we had for siege. August is right around the corner and it takes over a month to ship by boat. Add another few weeks for it to be transported to local distributors and then the central warehouse of the retail store which will then ship to their own stores and you end up in September and low and behold, that's when wave 4 gets spotted usually in north america.
https://www.seibertron.com/transformers ... ade/43960/

So yeah, 0 indication of theft (unless you have solid proof) and this timeline fits exactly with when Siege wave 4 came out. I don't know why we are so quick to accuse people of crimes and ignore facts.

I saw this topic going on on Twitter, so I'll add here what I said there: If he is a thief, he has a big brass pair because he shows his face several times on his Facebook and Youtube. Statute of Limitations on theft is generally 7 years, and prosecuting a thief doesn't cost much for a corp like Hasbro. Besides, he reviews a lot more than just Transformers. Is he stealing those too?!?!

Anyways, with Cheetor, Shadow Panther, Tigatron, and the surprise Agent Ravage, Kingdom has a lot of cats, and I am here for it!

aronjlove wrote:I saw this topic going on on Twitter, so I'll add here what I said there: If he is a thief, he has a big brass pair because he shows his face several times on his Facebook and Youtube. Statute of Limitations on theft is generally 7 years, and prosecuting a thief doesn't cost much for a corp like Hasbro. Besides, he reviews a lot more than just Transformers. Is he stealing those too?!?!

Site owner Seibertron himself asked to DROP THAT "THIEF" TOPIC a few pages back.
I don't care about your personal vendetta or your wild accusations. If you want to make a thread about "thieving theories", make the thread in the "general discutions" forum.



Damn, I miss Burn.
Where is he BTW?

-Kanrabat- wrote:

aronjlove wrote:I saw this topic going on on Twitter, so I'll add here what I said there: If he is a thief, he has a big brass pair because he shows his face several times on his Facebook and Youtube. Statute of Limitations on theft is generally 7 years, and prosecuting a thief doesn't cost much for a corp like Hasbro. Besides, he reviews a lot more than just Transformers. Is he stealing those too?!?!

Site owner Seibertron himself asked to DROP THAT "THIEF" TOPIC a few pages back.
I don't care about your personal vendetta or your wild accusations. If you want to make a thread about "thieving theories", make the thread in the "general discutions" forum.



Damn, I miss Burn.
Where is he BTW?

I believe aronjlove was also arguing against all the wild accusations rather than in favor of them

butcher31 wrote:Does anyone else get the feeling that PrimeVsPrime's reviews are a little disingenuous? His early-release reviews are overly-gushing. I like almost all Transformers figures too, but I get the sense that he receives early releases because they know he is very rarely going to be critical of the figures.

Who's "they"? He isn't sponsored by any shop or Hasbro so he has no reason to to appease anyone. In this case he probably bought it from a shop that got them in early, probably in South East Asia somewhere since they tend to get a lot of stuff first, but not necessarily one that wants to be identified just in case Hasbro takes issue with it. Since it's boxed I doubt it's stolen, but it certainly wasn't just given to him for free. No shop, least of all Hasbro, will just give away toys without getting a shout out in the video and a link in the description in exchange.

As far as being overly positive goes maybe he just thinks that's what will get him the most views, or maybe he just isn't that good at being critical.

Emerje

Razorbeast88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

aronjlove wrote:I saw this topic going on on Twitter, so I'll add here what I said there: If he is a thief, he has a big brass pair because he shows his face several times on his Facebook and Youtube. Statute of Limitations on theft is generally 7 years, and prosecuting a thief doesn't cost much for a corp like Hasbro. Besides, he reviews a lot more than just Transformers. Is he stealing those too?!?!

Site owner Seibertron himself asked to DROP THAT "THIEF" TOPIC a few pages back.
I don't care about your personal vendetta or your wild accusations. If you want to make a thread about "thieving theories", make the thread in the "general discutions" forum.



Damn, I miss Burn.
Where is he BTW?

I believe aronjlove was also arguing against all the wild accusations rather than in favor of them

Yes, I was.

Ignoring the accusations, I've never gotten the feeling that he is insincere in his reviews. I think he just genuinely loves transformers, is very excited and quick to give high praise. He may refer to several figures as the best, but to be fair most of them are haha. We're getting a lot of amazing new figures that are better than previous releases
And I too am guilty of getting new toys and the new ones becoming my favorites hahaha he just said tigatron is his favorite voyager beast. Which against only rhinox Primal and dinobot thats understandable

Not to mention he has his criticisms as well. He clearly wasn't a fan of fangry's loose joints, and I remember him not being a fan of siege apeface either

aronjlove wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

aronjlove wrote:I saw this topic going on on Twitter, so I'll add here what I said there: If he is a thief, he has a big brass pair because he shows his face several times on his Facebook and Youtube. Statute of Limitations on theft is generally 7 years, and prosecuting a thief doesn't cost much for a corp like Hasbro. Besides, he reviews a lot more than just Transformers. Is he stealing those too?!?!

Site owner Seibertron himself asked to DROP THAT "THIEF" TOPIC a few pages back.
I don't care about your personal vendetta or your wild accusations. If you want to make a thread about "thieving theories", make the thread in the "general discutions" forum.



Damn, I miss Burn.
Where is he BTW?

I believe aronjlove was also arguing against all the wild accusations rather than in favor of them

Yes, I was.

Still off topic and my point still stand. Same thing about discussing reviewers.

Now back on the TOYS, okay?

-Kanrabat- wrote:

aronjlove wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

aronjlove wrote:I saw this topic going on on Twitter, so I'll add here what I said there: If he is a thief, he has a big brass pair because he shows his face several times on his Facebook and Youtube. Statute of Limitations on theft is generally 7 years, and prosecuting a thief doesn't cost much for a corp like Hasbro. Besides, he reviews a lot more than just Transformers. Is he stealing those too?!?!

Site owner Seibertron himself asked to DROP THAT "THIEF" TOPIC a few pages back.
I don't care about your personal vendetta or your wild accusations. If you want to make a thread about "thieving theories", make the thread in the "general discutions" forum.



Damn, I miss Burn.
Where is he BTW?

I believe aronjlove was also arguing against all the wild accusations rather than in favor of them

Yes, I was.

Still off topic and my point still stand. Same thing about discussing reviewers.

Now back on the TOYS, okay?

Well, make your point with someone else's damn quote as you conveniently left out my paragraph about the toys.

Hahaha back to the toys

I wish Tigatron's tail-whip could transform into a longer length or something, and it'd have added articulation due to transformation. I wouldn't have minded an axe tip at the end like with Cheetors tail either, just to add something instead of a silly striped club
Perhaps there will be an upgrade kit with a new tail in the future lol

But I really don't care that much about all that because he has his gun and he looks magnificent! Tigatron for the win!

Can't wait to see Shadow Panther. I'm curious about headsculpt and paintjob

Pipes should be promising as well

Still not sure if I want Waspinator. I know he's iconic and all but I guess he was just never my favorite

aronjlove wrote:Well, make your point with someone else's damn quote as you conveniently left out my paragraph about the toys.

Just pointing out that if 80% of the post is completely off topic, and about a topic that was already warned about, the tiny toy part is irrelevant.

BTW, as a news staff member, I have some moderation powers and I'm allowed to see the posts that are not approved yet. Some are genuine good posts of fresh new members. Many are bot-spam that I nuke.

But there's that kind of sneaky spam. First half of the post is a genuine post that is on topic about the toys... and then it's GO TO CASINO-DOT-COM!

So, yeah. Same energy.

Razorbeast88 wrote:Hahaha back to the toys

I wish Tigatron's tail-whip could transform into a longer length or something, and it'd have added articulation due to transformation. I wouldn't have minded an axe tip at the end like with Cheetors tail either, just to add something instead of a silly striped club
Perhaps there will be an upgrade kit with a new tail in the future lol

But I really don't care that much about all that because he has his gun and he looks magnificent! Tigatron for the win!

Can't wait to see Shadow Panther. I'm curious about headsculpt and paintjob

Same, I have no connection to that character but the box art looks amazing!

aronjlove wrote:

Razorbeast88 wrote:Hahaha back to the toys

I wish Tigatron's tail-whip could transform into a longer length or something, and it'd have added articulation due to transformation. I wouldn't have minded an axe tip at the end like with Cheetors tail either, just to add something instead of a silly striped club
Perhaps there will be an upgrade kit with a new tail in the future lol

But I really don't care that much about all that because he has his gun and he looks magnificent! Tigatron for the win!

Can't wait to see Shadow Panther. I'm curious about headsculpt and paintjob

Same, I have no connection to that character but the box art looks amazing!

I'd love to use him as a Nemesis for Cheetor and potential alter ego to ravage
And since I'll be skipping out on scorponok as well I need me some more preds

william-james88 wrote:So yeah, 0 indication of theft (unless you have solid proof) and this timeline fits exactly with when Siege wave 4 came out. I don't know why we are so quick to accuse people of crimes and ignore facts.

Well, there's plenty of evidence in other cases, but I agree this one seems legit. To which I say, 'great'.

sol magnus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:So yeah, 0 indication of theft (unless you have solid proof) and this timeline fits exactly with when Siege wave 4 came out. I don't know why we are so quick to accuse people of crimes and ignore facts.

Well, there's plenty of evidence in other cases, but I agree this one seems legit. To which I say, 'great'.

As do I, and yes there is definitely plenty of evidence in other cases. If you don't see the box in the video, something's up.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Where is he BTW?

He left, he had enough of this.

Back to Tigatron, I will get him. I like the robot mode and the legs are much better. But that Tiger mode looks bad. Tigers are the biggest cats in the world (bigger than lions) and he just looks starving there. I do like that this is very faithful t the essence of the character. Same transformation (more or less) as Cheetor, but with a different cat mode and a bigger robot mode.

william-james88 wrote:But it being packaged proves that it is the case. Hasbro wont hold onto ready to ship product. We followed them every step of the way in their Unicron campaign, the packaging is the last step and they ship directly to distributors (which is probably who expedited the figure to PVP).

Packaging is the last step, but Hasbro will hold onto products before sending them out. This has been done for two main reasons in the past:
1-To delay a line for a currently-popular line (Animated was held back for half a year I believe because of the Live Action toyline's success), obviously this isn't the case here.
2-They need to amass multiple copies to send out in bulk and distribute.

Hasbro also doesn't plan on dropping Wave 4 in the next month because it hasn't even been announced (and their official Wave 3 shipments have yet to go out... being scheduled for September), if anything Wave 4 will hit retail September with Wave 5 hitting December to January. Unicron's packaging happened so soon to his shipment because he's an outlier, he's one massive figure with a shorter run as opposed to six-or-so unique figures with full runs that release simultaneously.

(Also if he obtained this legitimately through a store he'd mention it... and if it was free he'd legally have to mention it)

Again sorry I didn't mean to derail this topic!


Somewhat related, but have leaks slowed down since Hasbro employees acknowledged them in the SS86 Fan First? Maybe Hasbro plugged the assembly / quality assurance stage leak, but another leak opened further down the production line (we didn't get any Wave 4 Kingdom samples leaked).

Nuclearxpotato wrote:if anything Wave 4 will hit retail September

For it to hit retail in north america in September, it has to be in an asian shippers and distributors hands right now. That is precicely how PVP could have gotten it. He has a contact with an asian distributor, they got a batch of these and shipped him one immediately. That is far more logical than theft from a factory.
Once again, I have no clue why you are adamant about foul play here. This reviewer has bypassed standard retail by getting a copy directly from a distributor, the timeline (which you confirmed) checks out. That does not mean anyone stole anything. We shouldn't confuse unconventional with illegal.

Please only accuse one of theft is you are 100% certain.

Nuclearxpotato wrote: (we didn't get any Wave 4 Kingdom samples leaked).

Wave 4 Waspinator leaked a month and a half ago with no package shown. That one reeks of foul play for sure.
There will keep being leaks.

Nuclearxpotato wrote:Hasbro also doesn't plan on dropping Wave 4 in the next month because it hasn't even been announced

That is completely unrelated. We've had tons of pre reveal sightings that are completely legitimate this year. Something being found at retail before it being announced is indicative of nothing aside from incpompetence from hasbro's marketing team.

william-james88 wrote:

Nuclearxpotato wrote: (we didn't get any Wave 4 Kingdom samples leaked).

Wave 4 Waspinator leaked a month and a half ago with no package shown. That one reeks of foul play for sure.
There will keep being leaks.

I honestly forgot about Waspinator's leak tbh. I guess it probably slipped my mind since he wasn't like crazily "new" since the T30 figure was decent (in my eyes at least) unlike Slammer or Tigatron... though now that I think about it, either I'm misremembering a vague moment from a weeks-old dream or was Slammer also leaked? I seem to remember there being some conversation about his head design... EDIT: Just remembered I was thinking of the Box Art revealed. The head matched up to a leaker's early description of it (I believe they made a rough sketch).

There will never stop being leaks obviously, I was thinking that maybe Hasbro found a source (which was in the QA / assembly phase) but another one opened further down the line (at packaging).

I bet HASTAK allow leaks on purpose because free online advertising. They save and earn back MILLIONS this way.
And it's pretty damn fine by me.

-Kanrabat- wrote:I bet HASTAK allow leaks on purpose because free online advertising. They save and earn back MILLIONS this way.
And it's pretty damn fine by me.

That's my theory, gets around youtube's promotion rules if they can point to a lowly factory worker. Plausible deniability and all that.