Video Review for Transformers Siege 35th Anniversary Soundblaster

My concern with the size was more based on how siege Astrotrain would look with TR octane and blitzwing as I had passed on the TR Astrotrain and only got Sentinel for that mold. Thankfully I think it will be fine, as was already pointed out, the astrotrain mold was larger than the other 2 triple changers. If the comparison in height to siege prime is correct, then siege Astrotrain without the lifts will be taller than octane, and half a head shorter than blitzwing - using the lifts would negate that half a head, so in all, they will display nicely together.

Even if Siege Astrotrain is shorter - it's worth it because of TR Astrotrain's horrible, HORRIBLE alt mode...

I'm so glad I'm not the only one who caught on that Trenchfoot could be in place of Pinpointer, and I think that might've been the plan. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't one of Spinisters Targetmasters in the Skywarp pack as well?

I love the Crossair target master of the titan wave, where it came from?

..And for size, I hope Hasbro releases GREAT new Dinobots in this line, on the right scale as a Leader ( Grimlock) 2 voyager ( sludge and slag) and 2 deluxe ( Swoope and snarl) - will be perfect!

TFanPage101 wrote:I'm so glad I'm not the only one who caught on that Trenchfoot could be in place of Pinpointer, and I think that might've been the plan. Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't one of Spinisters Targetmasters in the Skywarp pack as well?

Yes. His name in that set is Shrute, but it's colored like his old Targetmaster Hairsplitter. His other Targetmaster, Singe, is due out in the final wave of Siege.

Might hold off on crosshairs until the other autobot target masters are confirmed/photos with their absence in wave 1 of Earthrise Though theoretically if selects is continuing to use siege molds with the TCG mercs being possible figures I'm not sure what would fit pointblank and it might be a bad fit like jetdasher/cromar alt but for pointblanks robot mode. Seems weird that he's retail and not selects too but no complaints on that.

blackeyedprime wrote:Might hold off on crosshairs until the other autobot target masters are confirmed/photos with their absence in wave 1 of Earthrise Though theoretically if selects is continuing to use siege molds with the TCG mercs being possible figures I'm not sure what would fit pointblank and it might be a bad fit like jetdasher/cromar alt but for pointblanks robot mode. Seems weird that he's retail and not selects too but no complaints on that.

Just conjecture on my part but it's possible that Crosshairs was supposed to be a selects release but when Siege was extended for a wave, he got upgraded to main line release, the same way that Astrotrain was taken from Earthrise (which I'm thinking by them offering him again in wave 1)

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

Emerje wrote:Not sure how you can justify this when an old steam engine is considerably smaller than a space shuttle and Octane turns into a tanker truck. And not even a big tanker truck for cross country transport, but the smaller type with the tank attached that might be used delivery.

I don't know how this concept still loses people? Astrotrain is not "an old steam engine". He is an alien shape-shifting robot that looks like an old steam engine. Only on a superficial, visual level. Hence how the entire Decepticon army is able to board him in both altmodes as transport.

I get that, but he doesn't turn into a giant train. You can't use poor animation and plot devices as evidence.

I mean, these aren't giant space trains and he doesn't role around on giant Earth train tracks.



By your logic of large alt modes = large robots plus what we saw in the cartoon...



...Huffer is bigger than Optimus! Or maybe Hoist is smaller than Huffer? It doesn't matter what shenanigans they pulled in the cartoon, the alt modes are still Earth sized.

ZeroWolf wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:Might hold off on crosshairs until the other autobot target masters are confirmed/photos with their absence in wave 1 of Earthrise Though theoretically if selects is continuing to use siege molds with the TCG mercs being possible figures I'm not sure what would fit pointblank and it might be a bad fit like jetdasher/cromar alt but for pointblanks robot mode. Seems weird that he's retail and not selects too but no complaints on that.

Just conjecture on my part but it's possible that Crosshairs was supposed to be a selects release but when Siege was extended for a wave, he got upgraded to main line release, the same way that Astrotrain was taken from Earthrise (which I'm thinking by them offering him again in wave 1)

I agree with this. As JelZe pointed out Astrotrain's lot number is also in line with Earthrise, not Siege. Not sure how the rest fall into that, though, since they're all new molds, but not very fitting for Earthrise.

Emerje

On the note of trains, I'd LOVE a redux Raiden ... now that the notion of train tracks and roads and ramps is on the table. Seems like the perfect time.

Maybe they can do a little micromaster train station and train crossing guard.

gothsaurus wrote:On the note of trains, I'd LOVE a redux Raiden ... now that the notion of train tracks and roads and ramps is on the table. Seems like the perfect time.

Maybe they can do a little micromaster train station and train crossing guard.

I'd buy that!

Spinister I can't explain that mind, same with Rung

Emerje wrote:I get that, but he doesn't turn into a giant train.

...Except for the one time that he did in TFTM (a source many seem to point to more often than the cartoon), when all the other Decepticons loaded up into his train mode before he transformed and took off in shuttle mode.

Sabrblade wrote:

Emerje wrote:I get that, but he doesn't turn into a giant train.

...Except for the one time that he did in TFTM (a source many seem to point to more often than the cartoon), when all the other Decepticons loaded up into his train mode before he transformed and took off in shuttle mode.

Funny how they use that scene and always conveniently forget about how devs was in there all combined

Crosshairs looks good with Trenchfoot. That was the pairing I was planning to do and it looks great!

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Emerje wrote:I get that, but he doesn't turn into a giant train.

...Except for the one time that he did in TFTM (a source many seem to point to more often than the cartoon), when all the other Decepticons loaded up into his train mode before he transformed and took off in shuttle mode.

Funny how they use that scene and always conveniently forget about how devs was in there all combined

the art of size shifting

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Emerje wrote:I get that, but he doesn't turn into a giant train.

...Except for the one time that he did in TFTM (a source many seem to point to more often than the cartoon), when all the other Decepticons loaded up into his train mode before he transformed and took off in shuttle mode.

Funny how they use that scene and always conveniently forget about how devs was in there all combined

This is the whole point. All Transformations are cosmetic. "Robots in Disguise" and all that. Astrotrain based on his direct interactions with other Cybertronians IE The Movie, Should be a big bot. His Bot Mode features his Shuttle Mode kibble, so any kind of comparison to his train mode is redundant anyway. In Shuttle Mode, a Gestalt could stand without hitting a "ceiling" and nearly the entire Decepticon Army of 2005 was onboard.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

That's some terrible layering, lol! Kup is standing on poor Snarl's hind foot, and Blurr is standing on Broadside's foott, which much be like a clown shoe to reach all the way under and to the other side of Snarl. Oh, AKOM, you're so silly!

Indeed. I've said it before but, I think if Mystery Studio that animated Call of The Primitives, had been the default for Season 3 (& 4), it would probably have been better received... and hold up better in retrospect.

was kind of expecting the cereal box eco friendly hidden figure (soon to be an Ang Lee film) approach for Earthrise.

Glad the character art on the side is staying, I'd love for that to just always be a thing now. That art on the Starscream box is of the Siege figure though, not the figure actually in that packaging, which is just another reason for me to be annoyed about him.

Also shouldn't this news post have been on the Earthrise thread, not this one?

I saw it on my Facebook new feed & I saw TFW2005 showed them & not Ya'll & I thought of Ya'll, so I posted it here. I know people are fresh off of NYCC of this news. Glad I could help.

Fun with fireblasts:


Apologies for the image if it appears rotated but the Jetfire blast effects work great with Mirage’s rocket and it looks pretty good on Hound’s rocket launcher too.

As indicated above I scored Mirage but also Impactor and Impactor makes me very much the glad he may have hollow legs like he’s from the Prime Wars but maaaan he’s huge

He looks amazing with Springer please Primus give me a Siege styled Kup before this trilogy is over. It’s like he stepped right off the page of the UK comics. He’s still got that matching Centurion-esque helmet fin that gels so we’ll with Springer it’s perfect.

I’d love the IDW head but can’t afford the whole set - just the same I’m hella happy with this Autobot version football helmet wearing harpoon handed purple people eating walking tank.

Siege Micromaster Offroad Patrol and Barricade are in stock on Hasbro Pulse for anyone interested.

Offroad Patrol

https://hasbropulse.com/collections/tra ... rol-2-pack

Barricade

https://hasbropulse.com/collections/tra ... -barricade

Nemesis Primal wrote:Also shouldn't this news post have been on the Earthrise thread, not this one?

While this makes sense, let’s be honest, we’re all reading both threads anyway. And truly, while it would be crazy busy, one War for Cybertron thread would probably do the trick - and save some page flipping.

emlit wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:Also shouldn't this news post have been on the Earthrise thread, not this one?

While this makes sense, let’s be honest, we’re all reading both threads anyway. And truly, while it would be crazy busy, one War for Cybertron thread would probably do the trick - and save some page flipping.

To be honest, 'twas an oops on my part.

It's in the right thread now, though!

So, I found a Barricade in the wild in a veritable sea of Mirages and an Impactor. Didnt give Impactor a second thought to grab Barrocade, but now kinda wishing I did even though I know I hate that Tank. Decided 'Cade needed his little buddy so when I got home I decided to switch torsos on Aimless and Blowpipe to create an all-grey Battle Master Frenzy.


Also, you can totally use the half-handles to mount the guns flush with the car hood instead of sticking up 10 feet.

Flashwave wrote:So, I found a Barricade in the wild in a veritable sea of Mirages and an Impactor. Didnt give Impactor a second thought to grab Barrocade, but now kinda wishing I did even though I know I hate that Tank. Decided 'Cade needed his little buddy so when I got home I decided to switch torsos on Aimless and Blowpipe to create an all-grey Battle Master Frenzy.

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Also, you can totally use the half-handles to mount the guns flush with the car hood instead of sticking up 10 feet.

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I like what you did to make Barricade have a Frenzy. It looks really good Though, now I want to pick up Barricade and the battlemasters needed just to have that awesome homage for the shelf... Sometimes I hate being part of a community that's so creative at finding fun ways to display figures

Sorry. The music in the video was annoying and could not watch finish watching it.

Messing around with Hound and Cromar is fun!
Plus a doggy. Because Hound is an animal lover.

Anyone think the Siege tetrajet molds will be used again anytime soon - without battle damage (maybe third chapter of the trilogy *fingers crossed*)? I’d be inclined to pick up more.

emlit wrote:Anyone think the Siege tetrajet molds will be used again anytime soon - without battle damage (maybe third chapter of the trilogy *fingers crossed*)? I’d be inclined to pick up more.

The Coneheads are a likely candidate. Maybe another special 3 pack?

-Kanrabat- wrote:

emlit wrote:Anyone think the Siege tetrajet molds will be used again anytime soon - without battle damage (maybe third chapter of the trilogy *fingers crossed*)? I’d be inclined to pick up more.

The Coneheads are a likely candidate. Maybe another special 3 pack?

Wouldn't the Coneheads more likely be made from the Earthrise Seeker mold instead? The Siege Tetrajet mold has no room for the Coneheads' coneheads to fit into the little space where the non-coneheaded heads fold away.

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

emlit wrote:Anyone think the Siege tetrajet molds will be used again anytime soon - without battle damage (maybe third chapter of the trilogy *fingers crossed*)? I’d be inclined to pick up more.

The Coneheads are a likely candidate. Maybe another special 3 pack?

Wouldn't the Coneheads more likely be made from the Earthrise Seeker mold instead? The Siege Tetrajet mold has no room for the Coneheads' coneheads to fit into the little space where the non-coneheaded heads fold away.

Well, they could just go the partforming route. A cone hat that would serve as a tailfin for the vehicle mode, or something.
But most likely, some heavy remolding would be required.

Or the front end of the Tetrajet could be retooled into a collapsible head

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Or the front end of the Tetrajet could be retooled into a collapsible head

Then where would the robot mode stabilizers come from?

Sabrblade wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Or the front end of the Tetrajet could be retooled into a collapsible head

Then where would the robot mode stabilizers come from?

Somewhere else. That is the beauty of retools.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Or the front end of the Tetrajet could be retooled into a collapsible head

Then where would the robot mode stabilizers come from?

Somewhere else. That is the beauty of retools.

Where else, though? Do you own the mold? The whole nose of the tetrajet is an integral component of the very structural integrity of the altmode kibble's placement in robot mode. Without the nose splitting in half and folding up to become the faux stabilizers, the altmode kibble can't securely lock into place in the robot mode.

Then simply turn the transformation around. Have the wings of the tetrajet substitute the folded nose pieces, with fake "wings" behind them for kibble. Just as Wingblade's design was just Thrust in cosplay, altering the structure of the figure is achievable while retaining cosmetic appearances. Just note the Coneheads were physically different to the standard seekers, beyond the titular aspect. Extra wings etc could easily be employed to get new results from the same mold.

I'm just going to say, I doubt the Coneheads are a safe enough bet to warrant 2 figures each because they're probably going to do Selects releases of them with the Earthrise mold, so I doubt we'd get them with the Tetrajet mold too. That said, I could somewhat see a remold to the backpack to facilitate the Coneheads' respective kibble

I think Coneheads are for Earthrise because the jet mode more easily allow to remold their wings and tailfin rather than come up with a Cybertronian design for them.

The cone springloads or slides into the head. Pick your mold, problem solved.

As much as I despise the "new" Earthrise mold, I agree that Coneheads are probably coming from it later next year, even though I would MUCH rather we get the rest of the Seekers from the Siege mold, and I'm just hoping that Ramjet makes the mold look good enough for me to get. With that in mind, the next uses I want to see from the Siege mold would be the Welcoming Committee, since they were only on Cybertron and therefore should have tetrajet alt modes like the Rainmakers. Another three pack with Sunstorm, Hotlink, and Bitstream would do the trick, or just Selects releases of them (as long as none of them are locked behind a dumb Red Card again, still annoyed about Redwing). I could see them doing those three and not Nacelle, given the remolding required for the original Nacelle being partially Conehead-based.

Stargrave wrote:The cone springloads or slides into the head. Pick your mold, problem solved.

Eh, this.
They could also make his head split, like for ROTF Thrust.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:Then simply turn the transformation around. Have the wings of the tetrajet substitute the folded nose pieces, with fake "wings" behind them for kibble. Just as Wingblade's design was just Thrust in cosplay, altering the structure of the figure is achievable while retaining cosmetic appearances. Just note the Coneheads were physically different to the standard seekers, beyond the titular aspect. Extra wings etc could easily be employed to get new results from the same mold.

The only similarities Windblade even has with Thrust is having VTOL fans on the wings, and even then their different locations and sizes, and a cockpit chest I guess but most jet Transformers have them.

Their not even the same shade of red either, she has more differences from Thrust then similarities to him

It's just a stupid comparison, lots of characters in the franchise share a few similarities but whatever it's Windblade so obviously noting counts unlike someone like Slipstream who is so original in appearance because she's simply wearing a Starscream cosplay which is much different.

Nemesis Primal wrote:I could see them doing those three and not Nacelle, given the remolding required for the original Nacelle being partially Conehead-based.

But Nacelle looked like a normal Seeker in the cartoon:

Nemesis Primal wrote:the next uses I want to see from the Siege mold would be the Welcoming Committee, since they were only on Cybertron and therefore should have tetrajet alt modes like the Rainmakers. Another three pack with Sunstorm, Hotlink, and Bitstream would do the trick, or just Selects releases of them

I like this idea. Supported!

Sabrblade wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:I could see them doing those three and not Nacelle, given the remolding required for the original Nacelle being partially Conehead-based.

But Nacelle looked like a normal Seeker in the cartoon:

Given what we got with Rainmakers, I'd say a CHUG Nacelle would look like that.

not sure if apeface being the size of a deluxe is good or bad, at least it will fit in with TR monsterbots and explains why its got nothing to make the robot head look bigger in robot mode which is what I feared back then. Think I'd just go with the G1 toys if I had the money (and be able to get snap dragon).

blackeyedprime wrote:not sure if apeface being the size of a deluxe is good or bad, at least it will fit in with TR monsterbots and explains why its got nothing to make the robot head look bigger in robot mode which is what I feared back then. Think I'd just go with the G1 toys if I had the money (and be able to get snap dragon).

He's a small Voyager yes, but Spinister and the Ironhide mold are quite big for Deluxes. Also, Apeface's bulk is concentrated in his backpack and the back of his legs.