Video Review for Transformers Kingdom Leader T-Rex Megatron
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Here is the review followed by the poroduct description. This toy is due out early 2021.
Product Description
Beastify the battlefield! Worlds collide when the Maximals and Predacons join the fight, coming together with the Autobots and Decepticons in an epic battle that will alter their destiny forever. Primal power floods the battlefield as the fierce beast modes of the Maximals and Predacons are unleashed!
Unleash the primal power of the beasts with this Megatron (Beast) collectible figure, featuring a detailed beast mode with intricate dinosaur-inspired molded scales and articulated jaw with molded teeth…does anyone have a toothbrush? Toy converts into a Beast Wars-inspired T. rex mode in 27 steps. Figure's dino head and tail become his classic claw hands. Add laser fire effect by placing fire blasts accessories inside dino head (sold separately with other figures, subject to availability). Yeeesssss…
Includes a Golden Disk card that reveals a possible destiny of a key character. Collect other Kingdom figures to reveal all 3 alternate destiny variants for each character!
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Posted by Ultra Markus on November 14th, 2020 @ 11:19pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on November 14th, 2020 @ 11:27pm CST
Bit of an odd request but here you go.Ultra Markus wrote:i want see a comparison with the original beastwars and 10th anniversary megatron
Transformers Beast Wars Reborn Megatron (Reissue) Gallery
Posted by william-james88 on November 14th, 2020 @ 11:29pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:Bit of an odd request but here you go.Ultra Markus wrote:i want see a comparison with the original beastwars and 10th anniversary megatron
Transformers Beast Wars Reborn Megatron (Reissue) Gallery
Pretty sure they meant they want to see this new one compared to both those toys.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on November 15th, 2020 @ 1:56am CST
Posted by blackeyedprime on November 15th, 2020 @ 4:46am CST
Posted by Dominus Prime on November 15th, 2020 @ 8:13am CST
Posted by o.supreme on November 15th, 2020 @ 10:58am CST
Posted by william-james88 on November 15th, 2020 @ 11:24am CST
o.supreme wrote:Seems like a lot of early reviews are popping up fore core class. ( Normal reviewts though not sample swipers) Have these been spotted in store yet, or does a particular online retailer have them in stock?
They are readily available on Ebay from international sellers
Posted by King Kuuga on November 15th, 2020 @ 11:28am CST
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on November 15th, 2020 @ 11:58am CST
King Kuuga wrote:I don't like that Megatron's dino skin is all rubber, that's not going to age well....
One of the leakers said that the rubbery parts are like the old rubber dinosaur toys you could get at supermarkets and such so it is fairly durable
Posted by DeathReviews on November 15th, 2020 @ 1:09pm CST
Posted by Ultra Markus on November 15th, 2020 @ 1:14pm CST
william-james88 wrote:Sabrblade wrote:Bit of an odd request but here you go.Ultra Markus wrote:i want see a comparison with the original beastwars and 10th anniversary megatron
Transformers Beast Wars Reborn Megatron (Reissue) Gallery
Pretty sure they meant they want to see this new one compared to both those toys.
exactly
Posted by Rodimus Prime on November 15th, 2020 @ 1:42pm CST
Are you saying that design doesn't translate well to toy form?DeathReviews wrote:I know Beast Wars has devoted fans - but to me, all the figures and characters just seemed - sloppy. Sure, having a full blown Tyrannosaur HEAD for a hand sounds cool, but in practical application, not so much. Hard pass on all of these....
Posted by Sabrblade on November 15th, 2020 @ 1:58pm CST
He's saying a head for a hand is impractical.Rodimus Prime wrote:Are you saying that design doesn't translate well to toy form?DeathReviews wrote:I know Beast Wars has devoted fans - but to me, all the figures and characters just seemed - sloppy. Sure, having a full blown Tyrannosaur HEAD for a hand sounds cool, but in practical application, not so much. Hard pass on all of these....
Posted by blackeyedprime on November 15th, 2020 @ 2:24pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:He's saying a head for a hand is impractical.Rodimus Prime wrote:Are you saying that design doesn't translate well to toy form?DeathReviews wrote:I know Beast Wars has devoted fans - but to me, all the figures and characters just seemed - sloppy. Sure, having a full blown Tyrannosaur HEAD for a hand sounds cool, but in practical application, not so much. Hard pass on all of these....
But it makes brushing your teeth easier...
Posted by Dominus Prime on November 15th, 2020 @ 2:36pm CST
Posted by DeathReviews on November 15th, 2020 @ 3:38pm CST
I'm not saying that was wrong - it was a design angle they wanted to run with for a while. But it's just not my 'thing'. I won't take away from the people who DO like these - my not collecting them will just mean more for them
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on November 15th, 2020 @ 6:04pm CST
DeathReviews wrote:For almost all the original Beast Wars characters and figures, there were just so many of the beast parts that didn't integrate convincingly into a robot mode (without coming across as animal part kibble), while the beast modes had too many seams and gaps to really pull off a successful animal mode.
I'm not saying that was wrong - it was a design angle they wanted to run with for a while. But it's just not my 'thing'. I won't take away from the people who DO like these - my not collecting them will just mean more for them
That's my big issue with Beast Wars, that and no real limbs in robot mode, odd proportions, chicken legs, etc. Obviously, people who grew up with Beast Wars designed the live-action movie bots.
william-james88 wrote:o.supreme wrote:Seems like a lot of early reviews are popping up fore core class. ( Normal reviewts though not sample swipers) Have these been spotted in store yet, or does a particular online retailer have them in stock?
They are readily available on Ebay from international sellers
Mine came from a domestic seller, in my state even.
Posted by Rtron on November 15th, 2020 @ 6:20pm CST
chuckdawg1999 wrote:DeathReviews wrote:For almost all the original Beast Wars characters and figures, there were just so many of the beast parts that didn't integrate convincingly into a robot mode (without coming across as animal part kibble), while the beast modes had too many seams and gaps to really pull off a successful animal mode.
I'm not saying that was wrong - it was a design angle they wanted to run with for a while. But it's just not my 'thing'. I won't take away from the people who DO like these - my not collecting them will just mean more for them
That's my big issue with Beast Wars, that and no real limbs in robot mode, odd proportions, chicken legs, etc. Obviously, people who grew up with Beast Wars designed the live-action movie bots.william-james88 wrote:o.supreme wrote:Seems like a lot of early reviews are popping up fore core class. ( Normal reviewts though not sample swipers) Have these been spotted in store yet, or does a particular online retailer have them in stock?
They are readily available on Ebay from international sellers
Mine came from a domestic seller, in my state even.
The movies came only ten years after Beast Wars. So people who grew up with Beast Wars would be in their late teens at most when the movies entered preproduction. So your maths don't check out. All of those things you say are just design cues that say "This guy is an alien.". Which the Transformers are.
It does seem to be true that, in general, people who like Beast Wars designs also like Movie designs. But given than most people who watched Beast Wars as little kids were teens when the Bay movies came out, and thus the prime audience for the films, it's not surprising.
Posted by chuckdawg1999 on November 15th, 2020 @ 6:23pm CST
Rtron wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:DeathReviews wrote:For almost all the original Beast Wars characters and figures, there were just so many of the beast parts that didn't integrate convincingly into a robot mode (without coming across as animal part kibble), while the beast modes had too many seams and gaps to really pull off a successful animal mode.
I'm not saying that was wrong - it was a design angle they wanted to run with for a while. But it's just not my 'thing'. I won't take away from the people who DO like these - my not collecting them will just mean more for them
That's my big issue with Beast Wars, that and no real limbs in robot mode, odd proportions, chicken legs, etc. Obviously, people who grew up with Beast Wars designed the live-action movie bots.william-james88 wrote:o.supreme wrote:Seems like a lot of early reviews are popping up fore core class. ( Normal reviewts though not sample swipers) Have these been spotted in store yet, or does a particular online retailer have them in stock?
They are readily available on Ebay from international sellers
Mine came from a domestic seller, in my state even.
The movies came only ten years after Beast Wars. So people who grew up with Beast Wars would be in their late teens at most when the movies entered preproduction. So your maths don't check out. All of those things you say are just design cues that say "This guy is an alien.". Which the Transformers are.
It does seem to be true that, in general, people who like Beast Wars designs also like Movie designs. But given than most people who watched Beast Wars as little kids were teens when the Bay movies came out, and thus the prime audience for the films, it's not surprising.
I believe Beast Wars had an older audience because of the early CGI tech
Posted by Rtron on November 15th, 2020 @ 6:29pm CST
chuckdawg1999 wrote:Rtron wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:DeathReviews wrote:For almost all the original Beast Wars characters and figures, there were just so many of the beast parts that didn't integrate convincingly into a robot mode (without coming across as animal part kibble), while the beast modes had too many seams and gaps to really pull off a successful animal mode.
I'm not saying that was wrong - it was a design angle they wanted to run with for a while. But it's just not my 'thing'. I won't take away from the people who DO like these - my not collecting them will just mean more for them
That's my big issue with Beast Wars, that and no real limbs in robot mode, odd proportions, chicken legs, etc. Obviously, people who grew up with Beast Wars designed the live-action movie bots.william-james88 wrote:o.supreme wrote:Seems like a lot of early reviews are popping up fore core class. ( Normal reviewts though not sample swipers) Have these been spotted in store yet, or does a particular online retailer have them in stock?
They are readily available on Ebay from international sellers
Mine came from a domestic seller, in my state even.
The movies came only ten years after Beast Wars. So people who grew up with Beast Wars would be in their late teens at most when the movies entered preproduction. So your maths don't check out. All of those things you say are just design cues that say "This guy is an alien.". Which the Transformers are.
It does seem to be true that, in general, people who like Beast Wars designs also like Movie designs. But given than most people who watched Beast Wars as little kids were teens when the Bay movies came out, and thus the prime audience for the films, it's not surprising.
I believe Beast Wars had an older audience because of the early CGI tech
Maybe, but I read "grew up with" as "watched it as a kid". I guess we'd need to check whether Ben Procter was a Beast Wars fan or not. I know he was a G1 guy. He didn't design all of the robots, of course, but he was the team leader when it came to robot designs. However, I feel it's more of a case of "this are easy ways to tell people this things are NOT man-made."
Posted by King Kuuga on November 15th, 2020 @ 11:34pm CST
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on November 16th, 2020 @ 1:07am CST
Indeed. And with the movies, Universal's bigwigs insisted on the designs going out of their way to look like life-forms rather than something somebody built. They would have been so extreme as to be unrecognizable as Transformers, but one of the toy designers was able to make a mockup that convinced them to back down. Honestly, I like that it re-expanded our design horizons - alien robots with reconfigurable mechanical bodies need not be bound to "humanoid but with short narrow thighs and long, broad calves" especially when that wasn't the established design for a particular universe's version of a character.Rtron wrote:chuckdawg1999 wrote:That's my big issue with Beast Wars, that and no real limbs in robot mode, odd proportions, chicken legs, etc. Obviously, people who grew up with Beast Wars designed the live-action movie bots.
The movies came only ten years after Beast Wars. So people who grew up with Beast Wars would be in their late teens at most when the movies entered preproduction. So your maths don't check out. All of those things you say are just design cues that say "This guy is an alien.". Which the Transformers are.
Also, as far as chicken-legs goes... Assuming you're talking about Starscream, chuckdawg, making him both bow-legged and digitigrade was an explicit decision to reduce his height, and make any scale cheating less blatant because scale cheating is a lot more noticeable in live action.
Same for Jetfire being a digitigrade hunchback - it reduced his height and made it easier to bring his eyeline closer to the level of humans.
SS Grimlock is a head taller than SIEGE Ultra Magnus in robot mode, and appears to be close to that in dino mode as well. Just how freakin' big were you wanting him to be? Or were you assuming his height based on Megatron?blackeyedprime wrote:Think I'll wait for KO MP reissue or bite the bullet on MP at some point, Kingdoms good but if I'm just having one version of him on my shelves he loses out. Def confirms SS Grimlock is way too small for me so that is money saved on him and his team mates.
Dominus Prime wrote:I think because of this very debate among fans that they should have made it an option to remove the t-rex head to reveal a hand. Plus I don't see any ports on him for weaponizers, fossolizers etc
Look at the feet. There's probably also ports somewhere amid his back panels. I will say that I question moving his hip panels to the back. But on the plus side the right elbow has a lot more freedom of movement, and there'll be no fighting with the tail's gimmick during transformation.
What they should have made come off is the tail, which judging by ThiefThief's review is not the case. Megatron usually had that off outside of combat, and the Robot Masters toy and 10th-Anniversary Deluxe both had it be removable.
Posted by Emerje on November 16th, 2020 @ 2:54am CST
BTW, I was a huge fan of Beast Wars when I was 16 in '96 and 27 when the first movie came out in 2007 so it isn't impossible for a fan of Beast Wars at the time (especially with an interest in art) to also have worked on a movie that came out 11 years later. That said, I've never once looked at the first movie and thought "that looks like it came out of Beast Wars".
Emerje
Posted by blackeyedprime on November 16th, 2020 @ 5:46am CST
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:SS Grimlock is a head taller than SIEGE Ultra Magnus in robot mode, and appears to be close to that in dino mode as well. Just how freakin' big were you wanting him to be? Or were you assuming his height based on Megatron?blackeyedprime wrote:Think I'll wait for KO MP reissue or bite the bullet on MP at some point, Kingdoms good but if I'm just having one version of him on my shelves he loses out. Def confirms SS Grimlock is way too small for me so that is money saved on him and his team mates.
Def wanted him to be old leader sized for bot mode but having seen Tontons video the oversized MP looks correct scale wise to the movie as deluxes would stand at head level with his dino legs. Oversize MP/MP with boots form Scoria/Fanstoys seems to be the correct scale dino wise. Siege Magnus really needs the DNA upgrade kit to give him his correct height (as well as complete vehicle mode) so for me Grimlock bot mode would have to be bigger than that or CW magnus -though I do prefer studio series shoulder line. Maybe Toyworld can oversize him. Fortunately none of the kingdom figures seem to need oversizing so far, though giant fossilisers would look cool it wouldnt work with the gimmick/5mm peg holes.
Posted by bluecatcinema on November 16th, 2020 @ 1:24pm CST
Sabrblade wrote:He's saying a head for a hand is impractical.
I'd say it's quite practical in battle. A weapon full of razor-sharp teeth and a built-in laser that you can never lose your grip on is pretty useful.
Posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman on November 16th, 2020 @ 2:14pm CST
1. That's only as far as the movie goes, in that the movie heavily bloated the Dinobots' dino mode size in half the shots (basically every shot of them on Quintessa, and some of the shuttle flight shots). You have to balance that out with the show size, where they still loomed over most of the cast but they weren't that huge. The Quintessa shots inflate them to damn near Skyfire size.blackeyedprime wrote:ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:SS Grimlock is a head taller than SIEGE Ultra Magnus in robot mode, and appears to be close to that in dino mode as well. Just how freakin' big were you wanting him to be? Or were you assuming his height based on Megatron?blackeyedprime wrote:Think I'll wait for KO MP reissue or bite the bullet on MP at some point, Kingdoms good but if I'm just having one version of him on my shelves he loses out. Def confirms SS Grimlock is way too small for me so that is money saved on him and his team mates.
Def wanted him to be old leader sized for bot mode but having seen Tontons video the oversized MP looks correct scale wise to the movie as deluxes would stand at head level with his dino legs. Oversize MP/MP with boots form Scoria/Fanstoys seems to be the correct scale dino wise.
2. At a head taller than SIEGE Magnus in robot mode, SS86 Grimlock pretty much is old leader size. That's the same margin by which TR and PotP Leaders are taller - I know this for certain because I have SIEGE Mags in front of PotP Roddy. Unless by old leader you meant RiD-DotM, in which case you were deluding yourself from the start because no Generations Leader has been that big; that size requires the Commander price point now.
3. Most WFC Deluxes will have their head at the level of his dino hips anyway, at least if I'm reading the depth of Prime vs Prime's group shot correctly.
1. Going by the cartoon scale chart, SIEGE Magnus (unlike SIEGE Optimus) actually has his correct height. It's not correct going by how tall a trailer big enough to carry 4 Deluxe-class Autobots in car mode would be as armor (Which would actually put him in Skyfire's height category, so it's not like CW Magnus is really any better), but it's at least right by the animation and the chart.blackeyedprime wrote:Siege Magnus really needs the DNA upgrade kit to give him his correct height (as well as complete vehicle mode) so for me Grimlock bot mode would have to be bigger than that or CW magnus -though I do prefer studio series shoulder line.
2. Unless DNA has produced a newer, far more expansive kit than DK-14 (and as far as I can tell, they have not)... the DNA kit gives Ultra Magnus neither of those things. First off, his vehicle mode was already complete since it's based off RiD Magnus; all DK-14 does is make the cab stick out further, it's not like it makes the trailer more G1 or expands the carrying capacity. That would basically require a whole new, larger trailer - and that seems to be more effort than the lazy 3P bozos are willing to expend these days.
Second, DK-14 makes the inner robot more like a CW Voyager in height (which is admittedly nice), and it makes the armored mode closer in height to CW Magnus... but see what I said about UM's height in item 1.
Posted by AcademyofDrX on November 16th, 2020 @ 3:32pm CST
And maybe I'm the only one who has a problem! There's something about the word "correct" in this context that I just can't accept.
Posted by ZeroWolf on November 16th, 2020 @ 3:50pm CST
You're right though, ultimately we build our collections as we want them, adhering to what ever limits we set ourselves. Death actually had the best tone to take for an argument like this.
Posted by Overcracker on November 16th, 2020 @ 4:05pm CST
When you see Grimlock in the movie, you want something that looks like what you see on screen, and relates to others characters the same way it does on screen.
However with G1, its a fact of life that scale was hardly ever consistent even between one camera angle and another.
So wanting a hard scale for something from G1 is kind useless. The best you can hope for is something that is close to the general size of what you saw on screen, and SS Grimlock does that, specially if you are planning on pairing him with Earthrise figures like Prime.
Posted by blackeyedprime on November 16th, 2020 @ 5:03pm CST
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:1. That's only as far as the movie goes, in that the movie heavily bloated the Dinobots' dino mode size in half the shots (basically every shot of them on Quintessa, and some of the shuttle flight shots). You have to balance that out with the show size, where they still loomed over most of the cast but they weren't that huge. The Quintessa shots inflate them to damn near Skyfire size.
Exactly why MP size fits them more and also the blurr trying to push Grimlock into the shuttle scene. They really are that big and when going off the movie for a figure then they should be movie sized... also in the original cartoon Grimlocks dino jaws comfortably can fit in optimus primes leg width wise.
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:2. At a head taller than SIEGE Magnus in robot mode, SS86 Grimlock pretty much is old leader size. That's the same margin by which TR and PotP Leaders are taller - I know this for certain because I have SIEGE Mags in front of PotP Roddy. Unless by old leader you meant RiD-DotM, in which case you were deluding yourself from the start because no Generations Leader has been that big; that size requires the Commander price point now.
Even the SS Grimlock (*edit: which still needed oversizing for onscreen representation tbf) was crouched in his box to fit him in, would like to have seen that with SS86 Grimlock. Would be nice to see some pics of them side by side. Commander class sized figures have sold for as little as $45 being less than a leader class after hitting retail or even upon hitting retail in in uk (£45 amazon) so what they can do per 'size class' is really up to them and which way the wind blows.
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:1. Going by the cartoon scale chart, SIEGE Magnus (unlike SIEGE Optimus) actually has his correct height. It's not correct going by how tall a trailer big enough to carry 4 Deluxe-class Autobots in car mode would be as armor (Which would actually put him in Skyfire's height category, so it's not like CW Magnus is really any better), but it's at least right by the animation and the chart.
Magnus towers over Optimus, so wanting Optimus to be bigger must mean Magnus has to be too? and if we are relying on Netflix WFC for scale for the figures, the tetra jets should have been TR Astrotrain size in bot mode when next to Magnus so once again cartoon scale is whack just as much as figure scales are.
ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:2. Unless DNA has produced a newer, far more expansive kit than DK-14 (and as far as I can tell, they have not)... the DNA kit gives Ultra Magnus neither of those things. First off, his vehicle mode was already complete since it's based off RiD Magnus; all DK-14 does is make the cab stick out further, it's not like it makes the trailer more G1 or expands the carrying capacity. That would basically require a whole new, larger trailer - and that seems to be more effort than the lazy 3P bozos are willing to expend these days.
Second, DK-14 makes the inner robot more like a CW Voyager in height (which is admittedly nice), and it makes the armored mode closer in height to CW Magnus... but see what I said about UM's height in item 1.
His empty wheel space and opening trailer -which is mainly due from the trailers design. Whilst its super cool to have Car Robot homage as it doent do what the original figure did it might as well look complete and have some functionality as a car carrier. Kingdoms magnus should solve some of the issues with the Siege figure but likely it wont be as tall as CW Magnus/Upgraded siege and which if it is, Grimlock is def too small.
I'm happy enough to have MP Magnus or KFC Stack alongside the Siege figures for G1 toy scale vibe but for movie scale the size they have used doesnt cut it for me and why CW magnus stays on my movie figure shelves and why SS86 Grimlock wont be.
Looking forward to seeing Kingdom Magnus even if it doesnt tick my personal boxes.
Posted by Dominus Prime on November 16th, 2020 @ 7:53pm CST
https://youtu.be/xcX7HA-GVJQ
Posted by bacem on November 16th, 2020 @ 8:41pm CST
Posted by just_aCloud on November 17th, 2020 @ 9:46am CST
I had almost the exact same experience up until you said BW fans weren't in the theater for Bay's first movie. Seems all the people watching Bay movies around me were my either my age (round 17 at the time) or my parent's age (boomers). All the genx guys 10+ years older than me (G1 fans) that I talked to hated it and refused to go see it.King Kuuga wrote:I was six when it started and maybe six or seven when I discovered it. I'd guess probably 8 when I actually found a way to watch the cartoon. When the news about the live action movies dropped, I was 15 or so. I was a month shy of 17 when the first movie came out in 2007...Beast Wars kids, by and large, were not in the room for those movies. At least not the first one.
My dad was/is no where near a TF fan and he loved BW because of the CGI. LOVED IT. Lol.chuckdawg1999 wrote:I believe Beast Wars had an older audience because of the early CGI tech
I love the behind-the-scenes stuff. Very cool. I always find that understanding what went into decisions makes the decisions make a lot more sense. BTW movie Starscream looks freaking awesome regardless of "why" IMHO.ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:making [Starscream] both bow-legged and digitigrade was an explicit decision to reduce his height, and make any scale cheating less blatant because scale cheating is a lot more noticeable in live action.
Same for Jetfire being a digitigrade hunchback - it reduced his height and made it easier to bring his eyeline closer to the level of humans.
I would say Claw, Jaw, Armordillo, Rattrap, Tarantulas, Scorponok, Airrazor, Airhammer, Cidacadon, Ram Horn, Iguanus (shall I go on?) could be said to have 'chicken legs' when compared to almost any G1 character, Jazz, Prime, Megatron, Starscream, Grapple, Huffer, etc. I think 'chicken legs' is a pretty dumb way to describe it though, I mean in that case you could say a Spider Man or Batman figure have 'chicken legs'. But hey, G1 people seem committed to hating on other toylines, so I let them have it most of the time, lol...Emerje wrote:Chicken legs aren't really a thing in Beast Wars anyway, not even sure where that idea came from. There are a few figures that have unusual leg joints, but most of those are from Transmetals 2 like Cheetor and Scourge and that was just to emphasize their twisted appearance. Megatron doesn't have chicken legs since his robot knee sits back from the t-rex knee fixing his alignment to his foot.
I mean, I can agree and disagree with you. They are just toys and in that sense, should really only be purchased if they're actually going to be FUN and not just if they do / don't fit in with an overly airtight rule guide. But then again, there is an imagination element in it all that comes "into play" (lol) that does want to, for instance, have a toy of a Dinobot be larger than a toy of a Mustang, you know. I dunno. You know?AcademyofDrX wrote:Scale guides are to help animators do their jobs, they're not some kind of absolute or universal truth....There's something about the word "correct" in this context that I just can't accept.
Posted by Sabrblade on November 17th, 2020 @ 10:11am CST
When he said "in the room for", he meant "involved with the production of".Bone Age wrote:So many good discussions going on at the same time right now.I had almost the exact same experience up until you said BW fans weren't in the theater for Bay's first movie.King Kuuga wrote:I was six when it started and maybe six or seven when I discovered it. I'd guess probably 8 when I actually found a way to watch the cartoon. When the news about the live action movies dropped, I was 15 or so. I was a month shy of 17 when the first movie came out in 2007...Beast Wars kids, by and large, were not in the room for those movies. At least not the first one.
Posted by just_aCloud on November 17th, 2020 @ 10:23am CST
That makes a lot more sense. I had a feeling I was misinterpreting what he'd said, I almost went back and edited to say that. Thank ya.Sabrblade wrote:When he said "in the room for", he meant "involved with the production of".Bone Age wrote:So many good discussions going on at the same time right now.I had almost the exact same experience up until you said BW fans weren't in the theater for Bay's first movie.King Kuuga wrote:I was six when it started and maybe six or seven when I discovered it. I'd guess probably 8 when I actually found a way to watch the cartoon. When the news about the live action movies dropped, I was 15 or so. I was a month shy of 17 when the first movie came out in 2007...Beast Wars kids, by and large, were not in the room for those movies. At least not the first one.
Posted by Emerje on November 18th, 2020 @ 7:10am CST
Bone Age wrote:I would say Claw, Jaw, Armordillo, Rattrap, Tarantulas, Scorponok, Airrazor, Airhammer, Cidacadon, Ram Horn, Iguanus (shall I go on?) could be said to have 'chicken legs' when compared to almost any G1 character, Jazz, Prime, Megatron, Starscream, Grapple, Huffer, etc. I think 'chicken legs' is a pretty dumb way to describe it though, I mean in that case you could say a Spider Man or Batman figure have 'chicken legs'. But hey, G1 people seem committed to hating on other toylines, so I let them have it most of the time, lol...Emerje wrote:Chicken legs aren't really a thing in Beast Wars anyway, not even sure where that idea came from. There are a few figures that have unusual leg joints, but most of those are from Transmetals 2 like Cheetor and Scourge and that was just to emphasize their twisted appearance. Megatron doesn't have chicken legs since his robot knee sits back from the t-rex knee fixing his alignment to his foot.
Um, what? I think you misunderstand what people mean by "chicken legs".
These are "chicken legs".
It's all about that extra bend in the leg that give them a bird-like appearance.
All of the BW figures you named have normal straight legs.
Emerje
Posted by william-james88 on November 18th, 2020 @ 11:41pm CST
Posted by Sabrblade on November 18th, 2020 @ 11:49pm CST
Posted by Agent 53 on November 19th, 2020 @ 12:05am CST
Posted by Sabrblade on November 19th, 2020 @ 12:13am CST
Yeah, but this isn't adhering to that particular scale since the average Maximals and Predacons were closer to human-sized. They'd need Legends and Legion toys to better match that.Agent 53 wrote:It would make sense for the Maximals and Predacons to be smaller than the Autobots and Decepticons, if we remember from the show they were significantly shorter than them
Posted by optimeow on November 19th, 2020 @ 1:22am CST
Posted by Emerje on November 19th, 2020 @ 1:40am CST
optimeow wrote:Deluxe size for Voyager prices
Tall Deluxe size, but without the large gaps and hollow spots. This is the third WFC line, we should be used to classes no longer being based on height.
Emerje
Posted by Nexus Knight on November 19th, 2020 @ 2:05am CST
Posted by Sentinel_Primal on November 19th, 2020 @ 2:49am CST
Emerje wrote:optimeow wrote:Deluxe size for Voyager prices
Tall Deluxe size, but without the large gaps and hollow spots. This is the third WFC line, we should be used to classes no longer being based on height.
Emerje
Not to mention he also has two swords, posable fingers, and his two over the shoulder guns, so he's quite better both accessory and posability wise compared to deluxes
Posted by blackeyedprime on November 19th, 2020 @ 3:02am CST
optimeow wrote:Deluxe size for Voyager prices
Standard sized deluxe with accessories, that you have to make another purchase to get all of his accessories. Nothing new about that
Not sure I'll be able to rationalise £40 for a netflix deco of him but Hasbro can pull out all the stops when it is least expected.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on November 19th, 2020 @ 7:10am CST
Posted by Master Farr 1 on November 19th, 2020 @ 11:22am CST
Posted by Overcracker on November 19th, 2020 @ 11:49am CST
Heck even the 10th anniversary/Cybertron Primal had a big hunk of plastic hover board thrown in.
This Primal looks to be about the same height but chunkier / heavier than that one though. Still $30 is bordering on excessive. While depending on the actual transformation and features may or may ot be palatable for some.
For me, still keeping him pre-ordered unless there's something in a future review I really dislike about him.
Last time I passed on an Optimus Primal for not feeling him too much at the time it took me 2 decades and a repaint / release to get him at a decent price.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on November 19th, 2020 @ 1:42pm CST