Video Review for Transformers Generations Legends Class Chop Shop

So happy I get to experience this figure with a far cooler head sculpt than skrapnel

is noone doing a Titan Wars Legends Class thread? since Charles A Emanuele(Chuck) has done a YouTube vid of Titans Return Legends Buzzsaw(& according to him they are in stock now at Hasbro Toyshop)

Stuartmaximus wrote:is noone doing a Titan Wars Legends Class thread? since Charles A Emanuele(Chuck) has done a YouTube vid of Titans Return Legends Buzzsaw(& according to him they are in stock now at Hasbro Toyshop)

Technically, it's labeled as Combiner Wars, even though it's blatantly Titans Return, so...

In other news: my Shockies finally moved out of Charlotte! Not as good news, they only moved thirty minutes east, and delivery has been delayed from today to Saturday (unsurprisingly).

Stuartmaximus wrote:is noone doing a Titan Wars Legends Class thread? since Charles A Emanuele(Chuck) has done a YouTube vid of Titans Return Legends Buzzsaw(& according to him they are in stock now at Hasbro Toyshop)

That's been mentioned here already, and news'ed. Since this is generations legends it encompasses all sublines...

Mindmaster wrote:In other news: my Shockies finally moved out of Charlotte! Not as good news, they only moved thirty minutes east, and delivery has been delayed from today to Saturday (unsurprisingly).

Same, I believe that all non-priority shipments are being done via truck to save space on the freight planes, so I guess that's one mystery solve. Though, if mine don't leave indy soon, mine'll be delayed until monday

*edit: mine just left indy, will most likely be getting them saturday

My estimated delivery has been bumped from today to Saturday also.

Why? Because...

A little classic Andy to pass the time while we wait.

Stuartmaximus wrote:is noone doing a Titan Wars Legends Class thread?

No need, as you can read from the title, we have here a Generations Legends Class thread that is perfect for speaking of the legends class without having to divide anydiscussion during the transition

william-james88 wrote:

Down_Shift wrote:I would say we should be seeing wave 1 of the regular Titan Wars stuff drop shortly into the new year, maybe Feb or March. (at least after toy fair)

What about the wave 2 2016 combiner wars stuff (sky reign and wreck gar)?

Combiner Wars will run along side Titans Returns at the start. At least, that's what they told us in the second session in the Google Hangout w/ Hasbro. Ryan was in the first, maybe he can confirm that. (I'm at work and don't have my notes in front of me )

Down_Shift wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Down_Shift wrote:I would say we should be seeing wave 1 of the regular Titan Wars stuff drop shortly into the new year, maybe Feb or March. (at least after toy fair)

What about the wave 2 2016 combiner wars stuff (sky reign and wreck gar)?

Combiner Wars will run along side Titans Returns at the start. At least, that's what they told us in the second session in the Google Hangout w/ Hasbro. Ryan was in the first, maybe he can confirm that. (I'm at work and don't have my notes in front of me )

Well, it may happen at the stores depending on how quickly stock gets purchased, but I doubt they would send out larger waves comprising two series', that would really clutter the shelves or shortchange figures - neither of which would be good for the consumer

Early 2016 seems far too optimistic. Don't forget that there was that info sheet that one store showed that said the line would launch with Fortress Maximus and we still haven't officially seen that figure yet and probably wont until Toy Fair. Mid 2016, around June/July, seems far more likely.

Any overlapping will simply be old stock mingling with new stock, I can't see them releasing cases from both lines at the same time to stores. However I think Hasbro has learned a few things from our complaining when transitioning between lines this time. They typically change directions in the Generations line at the end of the year leading to tail end waves being understocked in favor of the next line as well as the entire franchise being understocked thanks to the post holiday glut when stores reset their aisles and clearance out old stuff. A mid year release would avoid that glut and if they have the timing down they can avoid CW 2016 wave 2 from being understocked in favor of TR wave 1.

But I don't really have a lot of hope for stores right now anyway. At least in my area they're really lagging behind everyone else. I've only just seen Ultra Magnus and Thundercracker in stores and the Protectobots are only just now being stocked even though I've seen the Autobot cars for at least a month now so they probably wont be stocked for long. Hopefully they get their act together next year.

Emerje

WHAT?? Chop Shop's a pass? Shame on you! Of the entire wave, he's the one I am most excited about. Between Pipes being what, the 5th use of the Prime mold, and not being nearly as cool as the CYB Armorhide homage to him, and Buzzsaw's rediculous looking pylons in his bird mode... (I will probably regret not getting Shocky though, but I am a sucker for relative scale and I prefer the big Voyager Shocky from Prime over the Legends sized ankle-biter)

I feel like some of you guys are forgetting that the "Early 2016" labels are brick and mortar street dates. Yes, BBTS, TFSource, etc. have all gotten the W1 2016 figures in, but that's because when they leave Hasbro's hot little hands, they only go to one warehouse. It's gonna take another month or so for the Combaticons to trickle through a Brick and Mortar store's distribution from regional to state to local warehousing and then go to the stores.

Flashwave wrote: Between Pipes being what, the 5th use of the Prime mold

I thought he was fourth:

Prime, Nemesis, Huffer and Pipes. Am I missing someone? What I find sucks about pipes and others is that my subconscious keeps bringing up that the very same mold sold for the same price last year and actually had a targetaster triplechanger with it.

william-james88 wrote:

Flashwave wrote: Between Pipes being what, the 5th use of the Prime mold

I thought he was fourth:

Prime, Nemesis, Huffer and Pipes. Am I missing someone?

Japanese Generations Prime.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Flashwave wrote: Between Pipes being what, the 5th use of the Prime mold

I thought he was fourth:

Prime, Nemesis, Huffer and Pipes. Am I missing someone?

Japanese Generations Prime.

Thats not another use of the mold, thats still prime just Takara's version. Since when have we counted that?

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Flashwave wrote: Between Pipes being what, the 5th use of the Prime mold

I thought he was fourth:

Prime, Nemesis, Huffer and Pipes. Am I missing someone?

Japanese Generations Prime.

Thats not another use of the mold, thats still prime just Takara's version. Since when have we counted that?

Since its deco is different from all the others?

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Flashwave wrote: Between Pipes being what, the 5th use of the Prime mold

I thought he was fourth:

Prime, Nemesis, Huffer and Pipes. Am I missing someone?

Japanese Generations Prime.

Thats not another use of the mold, thats still prime just Takara's version. Since when have we counted that?

Since its deco is different from all the others?

So you would also count every japanese release of combiner wars molds for the same characters another use of the mold?

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Flashwave wrote: Between Pipes being what, the 5th use of the Prime mold

I thought he was fourth:

Prime, Nemesis, Huffer and Pipes. Am I missing someone?

Japanese Generations Prime.

Thats not another use of the mold, thats still prime just Takara's version. Since when have we counted that?

Since its deco is different from all the others?

So you would also count every japanese release of combiner wars molds for the same characters another use of the mold?

Well, people count the G2 redecoed versions of the same characters as well, so yes?

Unless you're only strictly speaking of Hasbro releases.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Flashwave wrote: Between Pipes being what, the 5th use of the Prime mold

I thought he was fourth:

Prime, Nemesis, Huffer and Pipes. Am I missing someone?

Japanese Generations Prime.

Thats not another use of the mold, thats still prime just Takara's version. Since when have we counted that?

Since its deco is different from all the others?

So you would also count every japanese release of combiner wars molds for the same characters another use of the mold?

Well, people count the G2 redecoed versions of the same characters as well, so yes?

Unless you're only strictly speaking of Hasbro releases.

But arent the G2 characters different characters from the G1 characters even if they have the same names?

I a mainly using the mold use definition from tfwiki. For instance, lets look at animated ratchet:

The sprues for this mold included heads for both Ratchet and Ironhide, a later release in a new deco. It was later retooled to make the BotCon 2011-exclusive Fisitron and Autotrooper toys.

That line doesnt mention Takara Ironhide as another use of the mold even though the deco for that figure (which I can attest to) is similar to the difference between the generations takara optimus toy ou brought up compared to optimus.

william-james88 wrote:But arent the G2 characters different characters from the G1 characters even if they have the same names?

Not sure where you got that idea from, frankly.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:But arent the G2 characters different characters from the G1 characters even if they have the same names?

Not sure where you got that idea from, frankly.

Hold the phone. So G2 Optimus Prime (Laser Prime) is the same character from G1 Optimus Prime?

G2 Sideswipe is different from G1 Sideswipe. SO I just figured these were characters from that same G2 universe.

william-james88 wrote:Hold the phone. So G2 Optimus Prime (Laser Prime) is the same character from G1 Optimus Prime?

Always and forever.

william-james88 wrote:G2 Sideswipe is different from G1 Sideswipe.

According to whom?

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Hold the phone. So G2 Optimus Prime (Laser Prime) is the same character from G1 Optimus Prime?

Always and forever.

william-james88 wrote:G2 Sideswipe is different from G1 Sideswipe.

According to whom?

Just my own head canon from all along. I didnt know they were the same guys in the same continuity. Thanks, that clears things up.

I guess all along with the uses of he mold we were discussing earlier, I was just referring to deco references and characters. Pretty much that chart which shows all the CW mold uses which ignores the takara releases for the same characters with similar decos.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Hold the phone. So G2 Optimus Prime (Laser Prime) is the same character from G1 Optimus Prime?

Always and forever.

william-james88 wrote:G2 Sideswipe is different from G1 Sideswipe.

According to whom?

Just my own head canon from all along. I didnt know they were the same guys in the same continuity. Thanks, that clears things up.

Every G2 fiction has been a direct sequel to some G1 fiction.

william-james88 wrote:What I find sucks about pipes and others is that my subconscious keeps bringing up that the very same mold sold for the same price last year and actually had a targetaster triplechanger with it.

Yeah, that's pretty unforgivable. And yet the size class is so good it's hard to resist...


(at least the semi-frequent HTS codes take the bite out of the price hike)

Noideaforaname wrote:

william-james88 wrote:What I find sucks about pipes and others is that my subconscious keeps bringing up that the very same mold sold for the same price last year and actually had a targetaster triplechanger with it.

Yeah, that's pretty unforgivable. And yet the size class is so good it's hard to resist...


(at least the semi-frequent HTS codes take the bite out of the price hike)

Those hts sales are some of the best! Free shipping (usually) and paying a 'proper' price for what you're getting...

On a topical note, I'm so excited for chopshop, moreso than shockwave in fact; I've got my foc shocks, but I love the legends class figures especially nemesis prime.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Down_Shift wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Down_Shift wrote:I would say we should be seeing wave 1 of the regular Titan Wars stuff drop shortly into the new year, maybe Feb or March. (at least after toy fair)

What about the wave 2 2016 combiner wars stuff (sky reign and wreck gar)?

Combiner Wars will run along side Titans Returns at the start. At 5least, that's what they told us in the second session in the Google Hangout w/ Hasbro. Ryan was in the first, maybe he can confirm that. (I'm at work and don't have my notes in front of me )

Well, it may happen at the stores depending on how quickly stock gets purchased, but I doubt they would send out larger waves comprising two series', that would really clutter the shelves or shortchange figures - neither of which would be good for the consumer

We've had Movie Generations , regular Generations, RID, Platinum,and a few other smaller sub lines out at the same time and using the same space. (The other smaller lines I'll leave out for arguments sake)

It wouldn't be the first time we've seen an overlap in lines.

Down_Shift wrote:We've had Movie Generations , regular Generations, RID, Platinum,and a few other smaller sub lines out at the same time and using the same space. (The other smaller lines I'll leave out for arguments sake)

It wouldn't be the first time we've seen an overlap in lines.

That's something entirely different since none of those lines were intended to replace one another, they were intended to run together. What we're talking about looks more like this: Original Generations lines (2010 to 2011) -> replaced by Fall of Cybertron (2012 to 2013) -> replaced by Thrilling 30 (2013 to 2014) -> replaced by Combiner Wars (2015 to 2016) -> replaced by Titans Return (2016 to ????).

Emerje

Rounding off the last wave of 2015 Transformers Legends class, currently still under the Combiner Wars monicker, fellow Seibertronian chuckdawg1999 brings us a video review of the redeco, with the new Huffer head, of the Optimus Prime mold - into Pipes! (Poor Pipes.) Check it out below.

Depending on how you count mold uses, this is either the 4th or 5th use of the Generations Legends Optimus Prime mold. You now have you selection of colors and two heads, if you haven't been buying them all along like I have. Pipes is has the tightest joints thus far, which is a good thing, and I do like the color blue, another plus. In the end it all comes down to whether or not you want another Legends sized truck sitting on your desk.

I actually keep my Pipes near my computer. Fun little toy to play with. And even though this mold was originally made for Optimus Prime, and the head was made for Huffer, you can still approximate a bit of Pipes' design into his transformation: lift the front grille section as high as it will go on his back in robot mode, and it's sort of like the cab/hood section of his G1 toy when viewed from the front.

Seems like HB Asia has gotten into the act,in a limited fashion that is. I just got from TRU the already mentioned Skywarp GG version, Blackjack and mini-me Groove. Huffer too is shelf warming (around 5 units).

So many Viper and Windchargers and Warpath aalso shelfhanging/warming

Still looking for the G1 style legend/legion Skywarp.

I like the mold, and its petty cool as Huffer, but as my main picture of Pipes is from IDW, this one falls a little flat for me. He doesn't look like the Pipes I'd want. That's a shame. He is cool and I do like the color. I may end up getting him because Transformers but I'm not jonesing for it.

fenrir72 wrote:So many Viper and Windchargers and Warpath aalso shelfhanging/warming

I'm shocked that Viper is peg warming. I've never seen that figure at retail. Now his wave mates on the other hand are doing some hardcore peg loitering.

I'm a little concerned about the next wave getting stocked.

carytheone wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:So many Viper and Windchargers and Warpath aalso shelfhanging/warming

I'm shocked that Viper is peg warming. I've never seen that figure at retail. Now his wave mates on the other hand are doing some hardcore peg loitering.

I'm a little concerned about the next wave getting stocked.

And not a PG on sight. Viper's been that way for sometime now, like when he was released 6 months ago iirc (TRU)

Maybe a testament to Hbs distribution prowess. Like that scout size Windcharger a few years back and TFA Arcee which none of us could find in the retail scene.

fenrir72 wrote:

carytheone wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:So many Viper and Windchargers and Warpath aalso shelfhanging/warming

I'm shocked that Viper is peg warming. I've never seen that figure at retail. Now his wave mates on the other hand are doing some hardcore peg loitering.

I'm a little concerned about the next wave getting stocked.

And not a PG on sight. Viper's been that way for sometime now, like when he was released 6 months ago iirc (TRU)

Maybe a testament to Hbs distribution prowess. Like that scout size Windcharger a few years back and TFA Arcee which none of us could find in the retail scene.

I've seen a few Powerglides and got mine at retail. You couldn't find Rodimus or Skywarp when those waves first hit and now our shelves are chocking on them. Got a few Warpaths and Grooves hanging around and oddly quite a few Blackjacks. I'm guess BJ got bundled in a later wave to round out the case.

Either way, I'm glad I nabbed Shockwave from HTS when I had the chance. He's a really cool figure. I might pick up his wave mates if I spot them, but they're not priority.

carytheone wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:So many Viper and Windchargers and Warpath aalso shelfhanging/warming

I'm shocked that Viper is peg warming. I've never seen that figure at retail. Now his wave mates on the other hand are doing some hardcore peg loitering.

Seriously, those guys got scalped so hard, either that, or they aren't being included in the case assortment - would explain why there are so many grooves, warpaths, rodimus', and skywarps rotting on shelves.

Finally got My HTS order on Saturday.
Chop Shop is just great. We all new what we were in for of course, but he is good repaint with a great new head sculpt. And who doesn't need another small Decepticon minion?

So I am never all that excited about any of Shockwave's modern alt modes. They always end up being some kind of laser log. This one is no exception. I am glad he is actually a gun though.
All that said, He is an AWESOME little action figure in bot mode. Great articulation. Even his little foot articulation and thigh swivel makes for some great poses. Neat deco, and of course I love me some translucenceness.
When he is not busy being somebody's gun up on the Classics shelf, he will most certainly be down on the Legion/Legend/Cyberverse shelf hangin' with Legends Megs and the Seekers.

The only super gripe I have is the dang serial number/product code being totally visible on the top of gun mode. They couldn't find a more discrete place to print that?

... But man, He is a great little action figure! He might even reek some havoc on some Micromen.

Cobotron wrote:
... But man, He is a great little action figure! He might even reek some havoc on some Micromen.

Where do you think he ranks among shockwave toys? Do you preffer your Superlink one?

william-james88 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:
... But man, He is a great little action figure! He might even reek some havoc on some Micromen.

Where do you think he ranks among shockwave toys? Do you preffer your Superlink one?

Ya I think Superlink might be my fav so far.
Are you working on a list Billy?
Than I'll give a quick Billy List. But this is just based on what I have in my collection.

1. Superlink Laser Wave - Alt mode is maybe the most interesting laser log to date. Robot mode is great. Big and mean. He could even be a fine stand in for a Classics/Gen Shocky. And I love that big stupid cannon arm.
2. CW Legend Shockwave - Alt mode is so so, great that he can be wielded. Robot mode is aesthetically a really nice update to G1 SW. Great sculpt and nice simple deco that gets the point across, and again really good expressive figure to pose and play with.
3. FoC Shockwave - Alt mode is the worst laser log thus far. Robot mode is good. Neat sculpt, cool head. Good articulation.
4. Prime Cyberverse Shockwave - Worst alt mode of all. What is it? Robot mode is great though. Definitely the most sinister looking character design he's received.

Cobotron wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Cobotron wrote:
... But man, He is a great little action figure! He might even reek some havoc on some Micromen.

Where do you think he ranks among shockwave toys? Do you preffer your Superlink one?

Ya I think Superlink might be my fav so far.
Are you working on a list Billy?
Than I'll give a quick Billy List. But this is just based on what I have in my collection.

1. Superlink Laser Wave - Alt mode is maybe the most interesting laser log to date. Robot mode is great. Big and mean. He could even be a fine stand in for a Classics/Gen Shocky. And I love that big stupid cannon arm.
2. CW Legend Shockwave - Alt mode is so so, great that he can be wielded. Robot mode is aesthetically a really nice update to G1 SW. Great sculpt and nice simple deco that gets the point across, and again really good expressive figure to pose and play with.
3. FoC Shockwave - Alt mode is the worst laser log thus far. Robot mode is good. Neat sculpt, cool head. Good articulation.
4. Prime Cyberverse Shockwave - Worst alt mode of all. What is it? Robot mode is great though. Definitely the most sinister looking character design he's received.

Thanks for the feedback, please bookmark this post of your so you can use it when I make my list. It's already done and while it of course repeats a lot of your picks, it adds some other toys you dont have. I am guessing you dont have Animated Shockwave right? Also, did you ever convert your super link laserwave into his satelite mode?

william-james88 wrote: I am guessing you dont have Animated Shockwave right?

I DO! And I totally forgot! and his alt mode is really cool! Maybe the best!?

william-james88 wrote:Also, did you ever convert your super link laserwave into his satelite mode?

no. All the TFs in that haul got totally over shadowed by the Micromen.

Cobotron wrote:

william-james88 wrote: I am guessing you dont have Animated Shockwave right?

I DO! And I totally forgot! and his alt mode is really cool! Maybe the best!?

william-james88 wrote:Also, did you ever convert your super link laserwave into his satelite mode?

no. All the TFs in that haul got totally over shadowed by the Micromen.

Wait, all those new tfs which you had never experienced before got overshadowed by... redecos?!

And you better make those G1 seekrs and perceptor roll some day!

Good news is my Shocky finally shipped....a whole week after i ordered it. But it is finally on the way!!! Hope to have it by Thursday

That's great news D-Max!

william-james88 wrote:Wait, all those new tfs which you had never experienced before got overshadowed by... redecos?!

To be fare GF Fang Wolf and Sharkticon came to the In-Laws for Thanksgiving.

Since I got Skywarp for $3 at Walmart and like him, I am tempted to get TC and SS to compete my first ever seeker trio. Skywarp is actually my first "G1" seeker ever actually

Cobotron wrote:That's great news D-Max!

william-james88 wrote:Wait, all those new tfs which you had never experienced before got overshadowed by... redecos?!

To be fare GF Fang Wolf and Sharkticon came to the In-Laws for Thanksgiving.

Now we just need a good Soundwave to finish the team!

Not my pics:

Sabrblade wrote:Not my pics:

Oh it's the Y.M.C.A!!

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Not my pics:

Oh it's the Y.M.C.A!!

This summarizes, rather eloquently, one of the biggest reasons why he's sold out everywhere

My Shockwave came today!!!! OH GLORY DAY he is FABULOUS!!! Love this guy!!!! Go get him now!!!

I wanted to get some of the "Market 6" Legions that came out last year - I was wondering has anyone seen anyone selling them online anywhere - especially if it's for less than $7 a piece ?