Variant Covers for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #7 by Alex Milne, James Raiz, Jack Lawrence
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Via Previews World, we have a look at some cover art for not the next, but the issue after that of IDW Transformers: Lost Light! Issue #6 is out next Wednesday - full preview here - and the covers below, by Alex Milne and James Raiz (plus colourists - come ON people) and the main one by Jack Lawrence (plus colours) deal with the aftermath, so looking at them too closely may spoil some of the story in #6. You've been warned!
(W) James Roberts (A) Jack Lawrence (CA) Alex Milne
AFTERMATH! The war with the Functionalists is over-and Rodimus is left wondering whether he won or lost. It's the beginning of a new chapter for the displaced crew of the Lost Light, as decisions are made that will change their lives forever.
Credit(s): PreviewsWorld
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Re: Variant Covers for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #7 by Alex Milne, James Raiz, Jack Lawrence (1886607)
Posted by ScottyP on June 3rd, 2017 @ 2:24pm CDT
Posted by ScottyP on June 3rd, 2017 @ 2:24pm CDT
Oh that Milne cover is excellent (and also how rumors start!)
Re: Variant Covers for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #7 by Alex Milne, James Raiz, Jack Lawrence (1886608)
Posted by ScottyP on June 3rd, 2017 @ 2:37pm CDT
That is all I can say about that right now.
1 - Primus: More or less confirmed by the 2012 Annuals, but outside of that, they're clearly going towards the direction of having the 13 be a thing and it is very much looking like it's more-or-less direct from Covenant of Primus, backstory wise. This makes the 13 each a part of Primus. They are his divided self.
2 - Unicron: John Barber is on record (with our podcast) in saying that they almost teased him at the end of Dark Cybertron to go in that direction, they just weren't sure they were yet capable or ready to tell an effective story with him. His phrasing was "Where do you go?", so it's good they recognized they didn't think they had a fleshed out enough plan to move forward on it. I don't think they'll have a single reservation about bringing him in if they think the time is right and they have a good story.
3 - On IDW "avoiding" them: This was a Simon Furman thing at the start of the IDW run and it made complete sense at the time. Unicron was well worn by the shows at that point. However, since Transformers: Cybertron concluded, the only real Unicron material has been in TF: Prime and it was a little taste with the Gaia Unicron stuff (at the very, very beginning of the show, no less!) then some "meh" possession stuff in Beast Hunters. I don't think folks in general are worn out on Unicron/Primus/etc at all anymore, individual exceptions notwithstanding of course.
Posted by ScottyP on June 3rd, 2017 @ 2:37pm CDT
Me tooIronhidensh wrote:You know, I had really started to buy into ScottyP's theory of the Rung/Unicron connection. I'm quite disappointed it didn't play out.
That is all I can say about that right now.I have three points.Randomhero wrote:To have Unicron show up proves primus is real which essentially says God is real and here he is, IDW has spent 12 years avoiding anything primus or Unicron as an actual thing.
1 - Primus: More or less confirmed by the 2012 Annuals, but outside of that, they're clearly going towards the direction of having the 13 be a thing and it is very much looking like it's more-or-less direct from Covenant of Primus, backstory wise. This makes the 13 each a part of Primus. They are his divided self.
2 - Unicron: John Barber is on record (with our podcast) in saying that they almost teased him at the end of Dark Cybertron to go in that direction, they just weren't sure they were yet capable or ready to tell an effective story with him. His phrasing was "Where do you go?", so it's good they recognized they didn't think they had a fleshed out enough plan to move forward on it. I don't think they'll have a single reservation about bringing him in if they think the time is right and they have a good story.
3 - On IDW "avoiding" them: This was a Simon Furman thing at the start of the IDW run and it made complete sense at the time. Unicron was well worn by the shows at that point. However, since Transformers: Cybertron concluded, the only real Unicron material has been in TF: Prime and it was a little taste with the Gaia Unicron stuff (at the very, very beginning of the show, no less!) then some "meh" possession stuff in Beast Hunters. I don't think folks in general are worn out on Unicron/Primus/etc at all anymore, individual exceptions notwithstanding of course.
Re: Variant Covers for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #7 by Alex Milne, James Raiz, Jack Lawrence (1886611)
Posted by Kurona on June 3rd, 2017 @ 2:44pm CDT
Posted by Kurona on June 3rd, 2017 @ 2:44pm CDT
I'd probably be immediately apprehensive of it happening as Unicron is one of those things in Transformers I generally don't enjoy the concept of - or, at least, the religion-specific aspects of it - but IDW's post-DOOP stories have earned my trust to the extent I'd be very willing to see where they'd go with it.
Re: Variant Covers for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #7 by Alex Milne, James Raiz, Jack Lawrence (1886616)
Posted by Va'al on June 3rd, 2017 @ 3:06pm CDT
Posted by Va'al on June 3rd, 2017 @ 3:06pm CDT
Edited with image I missed, by Lawrence.
Re: Variant Covers for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #7 by Alex Milne, James Raiz, Jack Lawrence (1886623)
Posted by Randomhero on June 3rd, 2017 @ 3:35pm CDT
The Annual proved nothing. Thats why there were different point of views from both. Cyclonus's which rewind says "ive never heard this version" there are several and in RID we saw a different one. there was never any proof that Primus existed. Thats why in the RID annual when Metrotitan is revealed Prowl "Theyre not religious icons, theyre just big guys"
Including the thirteen and basing them off the aligned doesnt make them straight children of Primus. In IDW They came after the Guiding Hand and the Knights of Cybertron. theyve based them off their appearance and a little bit of their back stories but not completely. Leige Maximo was killed in the covenant of Primus and hes very much alive. Onyx Prime stayed in Cybertons core and in IDW he bolted with almost all the others. they dont prove Primus exist or at least not yet.
Barber did say that but its not in the book so it doesnt matter. Margarid Scott just revealed everything she planned before TAAO was canceled but it doesnt matter now becuse it wont happen. its like the Matrix. Optimus claims its just a bauble, a piece of technology which it has been shown it is while other religious characters claim it to be Solomus and can create life which it also has. neither is right or wrong its personal interpretation.
It was Furman's thing but they've modified it. Simon Furman didnt want Primus to exist even by name. thats why in Stormbringer he used other names to swear by like Primacron. John decided to modifly the "no primus/no Unicron" when he took on writing and editing. He's included them but based them on real world mentality. you can believe in them but there is no proof.
Posted by Randomhero on June 3rd, 2017 @ 3:35pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:Me tooIronhidensh wrote:You know, I had really started to buy into ScottyP's theory of the Rung/Unicron connection. I'm quite disappointed it didn't play out.I have three points.Randomhero wrote:To have Unicron show up proves primus is real which essentially says God is real and here he is, IDW has spent 12 years avoiding anything primus or Unicron as an actual thing.
1 - Primus: More or less confirmed by the 2012 Annuals, but outside of that, they're clearly going towards the direction of having the 13 be a thing and it is very much looking like it's more-or-less direct from Covenant of Primus, backstory wise. This makes the 13 each a part of Primus. They are his divided self.
2 - Unicron: John Barber is on record (with our podcast) in saying that they almost teased him at the end of Dark Cybertron to go in that direction, they just weren't sure they were yet capable or ready to tell an effective story with him. His phrasing was "Where do you go?", so it's good they recognized they didn't think they had a fleshed out enough plan to move forward on it. I don't think they'll have a single reservation about bringing him in if they think the time is right and they have a good story.
3 - On IDW "avoiding" them: This was a Simon Furman thing at the start of the IDW run and it made complete sense at the time. Unicron was well worn by the shows at that point. However, since Transformers: Cybertron concluded, the only real Unicron material has been in TF: Prime and it was a little taste with the Gaia Unicron stuff (at the very, very beginning of the show, no less!) then some "meh" possession stuff in Beast Hunters. I don't think folks in general are worn out on Unicron/Primus/etc at all anymore, individual exceptions notwithstanding of course.
The Annual proved nothing. Thats why there were different point of views from both. Cyclonus's which rewind says "ive never heard this version" there are several and in RID we saw a different one. there was never any proof that Primus existed. Thats why in the RID annual when Metrotitan is revealed Prowl "Theyre not religious icons, theyre just big guys"
Including the thirteen and basing them off the aligned doesnt make them straight children of Primus. In IDW They came after the Guiding Hand and the Knights of Cybertron. theyve based them off their appearance and a little bit of their back stories but not completely. Leige Maximo was killed in the covenant of Primus and hes very much alive. Onyx Prime stayed in Cybertons core and in IDW he bolted with almost all the others. they dont prove Primus exist or at least not yet.
Barber did say that but its not in the book so it doesnt matter. Margarid Scott just revealed everything she planned before TAAO was canceled but it doesnt matter now becuse it wont happen. its like the Matrix. Optimus claims its just a bauble, a piece of technology which it has been shown it is while other religious characters claim it to be Solomus and can create life which it also has. neither is right or wrong its personal interpretation.
It was Furman's thing but they've modified it. Simon Furman didnt want Primus to exist even by name. thats why in Stormbringer he used other names to swear by like Primacron. John decided to modifly the "no primus/no Unicron" when he took on writing and editing. He's included them but based them on real world mentality. you can believe in them but there is no proof.
Re: Variant Covers for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #7 by Alex Milne, James Raiz, Jack Lawrence (1886626)
Posted by Soundwave902 on June 3rd, 2017 @ 3:54pm CDT
Posted by Soundwave902 on June 3rd, 2017 @ 3:54pm CDT
Either Magnus is holding Megatron's hand (Please not another love subplot) or Megatron is getting arrested by Magnus on account of the fact he has no cuffs.
Also, the last cover might be spoiling Minimus's death
Also, the last cover might be spoiling Minimus's death
Re: Variant Covers for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #7 by Alex Milne, James Raiz, Jack Lawrence (1886645)
Posted by ScottyP on June 3rd, 2017 @ 4:25pm CDT
We can agree to disagree, or place a friendly wager, perhaps
Posted by ScottyP on June 3rd, 2017 @ 4:25pm CDT
Fun debate!Randomhero wrote:The Annual proved nothing. Thats why there were different point of views from both. Cyclonus's which rewind says "ive never heard this version" there are several and in RID we saw a different one. there was never any proof that Primus existed. Thats why in the RID annual when Metrotitan is revealed Prowl "Theyre not religious icons, theyre just big guys"
Including the thirteen and basing them off the aligned doesnt make them straight children of Primus. In IDW They came after the Guiding Hand and the Knights of Cybertron. theyve based them off their appearance and a little bit of their back stories but not completely. Leige Maximo was killed in the covenant of Primus and hes very much alive. Onyx Prime stayed in Cybertons core and in IDW he bolted with almost all the others. they dont prove Primus exist or at least not yet.
Barber did say that but its not in the book so it doesnt matter. Margarid Scott just revealed everything she planned before TAAO was canceled but it doesnt matter now becuse it wont happen. its like the Matrix. Optimus claims its just a bauble, a piece of technology which it has been shown it is while other religious characters claim it to be Solomus and can create life which it also has. neither is right or wrong its personal interpretation.
It was Furman's thing but they've modified it. Simon Furman didnt want Primus to exist even by name. thats why in Stormbringer he used other names to swear by like Primacron. John decided to modifly the "no primus/no Unicron" when he took on writing and editing. He's included them but based them on real world mentality. you can believe in them but there is no proof.
We can agree to disagree, or place a friendly wager, perhaps
Re: Variant Covers for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #7 by Alex Milne, James Raiz, Jack Lawrence (1886661)
Posted by Randomhero on June 3rd, 2017 @ 5:04pm CDT
oh god yes! i dont want to make ya think were arguing, not at all. obviously i am very much in favor of the idea of belief over proof. it just feels very grounded and real world and i very much commend IDW John Barber and Simon Furman for making that a thing. Im just still burned out of Unicron. I dont want him in the live action movies, cartoons or comics anymore just because hes that thing of "where do you go after him?' he takes away the threat of Megatron, the decepticons and anyhting else. IMO.
That being said Im getting tired of Optimus acting atheist in IDW and i got quite a chuckle from the Optimus Prime #8 preview that had jetfire swear in primus's name. you know transformers are in a werid place when Optimus is an atheist and Jetfire believes in God. the idea of Jetfire actually believing in Primus is awesome because every version of him has been a stone cold atheist. even the universes where primus has literally appeared before him and him saying "Nope! gods not real" that doesnt make you an atheist, that makes you an idiot.
Posted by Randomhero on June 3rd, 2017 @ 5:04pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:Fun debate!Randomhero wrote:The Annual proved nothing. Thats why there were different point of views from both. Cyclonus's which rewind says "ive never heard this version" there are several and in RID we saw a different one. there was never any proof that Primus existed. Thats why in the RID annual when Metrotitan is revealed Prowl "Theyre not religious icons, theyre just big guys"
Including the thirteen and basing them off the aligned doesnt make them straight children of Primus. In IDW They came after the Guiding Hand and the Knights of Cybertron. theyve based them off their appearance and a little bit of their back stories but not completely. Leige Maximo was killed in the covenant of Primus and hes very much alive. Onyx Prime stayed in Cybertons core and in IDW he bolted with almost all the others. they dont prove Primus exist or at least not yet.
Barber did say that but its not in the book so it doesnt matter. Margarid Scott just revealed everything she planned before TAAO was canceled but it doesnt matter now becuse it wont happen. its like the Matrix. Optimus claims its just a bauble, a piece of technology which it has been shown it is while other religious characters claim it to be Solomus and can create life which it also has. neither is right or wrong its personal interpretation.
It was Furman's thing but they've modified it. Simon Furman didnt want Primus to exist even by name. thats why in Stormbringer he used other names to swear by like Primacron. John decided to modifly the "no primus/no Unicron" when he took on writing and editing. He's included them but based them on real world mentality. you can believe in them but there is no proof.
We can agree to disagree, or place a friendly wager, perhaps
oh god yes! i dont want to make ya think were arguing, not at all. obviously i am very much in favor of the idea of belief over proof. it just feels very grounded and real world and i very much commend IDW John Barber and Simon Furman for making that a thing. Im just still burned out of Unicron. I dont want him in the live action movies, cartoons or comics anymore just because hes that thing of "where do you go after him?' he takes away the threat of Megatron, the decepticons and anyhting else. IMO.
That being said Im getting tired of Optimus acting atheist in IDW and i got quite a chuckle from the Optimus Prime #8 preview that had jetfire swear in primus's name. you know transformers are in a werid place when Optimus is an atheist and Jetfire believes in God. the idea of Jetfire actually believing in Primus is awesome because every version of him has been a stone cold atheist. even the universes where primus has literally appeared before him and him saying "Nope! gods not real" that doesnt make you an atheist, that makes you an idiot.
Re: Variant Covers for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #7 by Alex Milne, James Raiz, Jack Lawrence (1886669)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on June 3rd, 2017 @ 5:36pm CDT
As for Primus and Unicron, not only do I hope they appear, I hope we get an extensive backstory on them that elaborates their origins and everything they did before the Transformers even came around. I'm not religious, but I always found this origin story of the Transformers fascinating. Fuck the Quintessons. Of course, it should be written by Barber and not Roberts.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on June 3rd, 2017 @ 5:36pm CDT
It looks like he's shaking someone's hand with Megatron facing away from them.Soundwave902 wrote:Either Magnus is holding Megatron's hand (Please not another love subplot) or Megatron is getting arrested by Magnus on account of the fact he has no cuffs.
As for Primus and Unicron, not only do I hope they appear, I hope we get an extensive backstory on them that elaborates their origins and everything they did before the Transformers even came around. I'm not religious, but I always found this origin story of the Transformers fascinating. Fuck the Quintessons. Of course, it should be written by Barber and not Roberts.
Re: Variant Covers for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #7 by Alex Milne, James Raiz, Jack Lawrence (1886674)
Posted by Soundwave902 on June 3rd, 2017 @ 6:18pm CDT
That's Megatron's hand though
Posted by Soundwave902 on June 3rd, 2017 @ 6:18pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:It looks like he's shaking someone's hand with Megatron facing away from them.Soundwave902 wrote:Either Magnus is holding Megatron's hand (Please not another love subplot) or Megatron is getting arrested by Magnus on account of the fact he has no cuffs.
As for Primus and Unicron, not only do I hope they appear, I hope we get an extensive backstory on them that elaborates their origins and everything they did before the Transformers even came around. I'm not religious, but I always found this origin story of the Transformers fascinating. **** the Quintessons. Of course, it should be written by Barber and not Roberts.
That's Megatron's hand though
Re: Variant Covers for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #7 by Alex Milne, James Raiz, Jack Lawrence (1886678)
Posted by Randomhero on June 3rd, 2017 @ 7:25pm CDT
There's already over 25 years of primus and Unicrons backstory. They never really change it. The aligned universe modified it a little to give the thirteen more characterization. If I hadn't to make a guess I'd say Hasbro is pretty tight about keeping Unicron and primus's origins the same because for ten years they were hell bent on making them and the thirteen multi universal beings which just caused more problems when they decided to make alphatrion a prime and creating the shattered glass universe.
John and James at least broke out of the norm when they made primus not Cybertron and having him splinter into 5 other deities but that just created Mortilus who ended up just being a poor mans Unicron and making an excuse to have Unicron in lore without actually using Unicron.
Posted by Randomhero on June 3rd, 2017 @ 7:25pm CDT
Rodimus Prime wrote:It looks like he's shaking someone's hand with Megatron facing away from them.Soundwave902 wrote:Either Magnus is holding Megatron's hand (Please not another love subplot) or Megatron is getting arrested by Magnus on account of the fact he has no cuffs.
As for Primus and Unicron, not only do I hope they appear, I hope we get an extensive backstory on them that elaborates their origins and everything they did before the Transformers even came around. I'm not religious, but I always found this origin story of the Transformers fascinating. **** the Quintessons. Of course, it should be written by Barber and not Roberts.
There's already over 25 years of primus and Unicrons backstory. They never really change it. The aligned universe modified it a little to give the thirteen more characterization. If I hadn't to make a guess I'd say Hasbro is pretty tight about keeping Unicron and primus's origins the same because for ten years they were hell bent on making them and the thirteen multi universal beings which just caused more problems when they decided to make alphatrion a prime and creating the shattered glass universe.
John and James at least broke out of the norm when they made primus not Cybertron and having him splinter into 5 other deities but that just created Mortilus who ended up just being a poor mans Unicron and making an excuse to have Unicron in lore without actually using Unicron.
Re: Variant Covers for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #7 by Alex Milne, James Raiz, Jack Lawrence (1886713)
Posted by william-james88 on June 3rd, 2017 @ 10:42pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on June 3rd, 2017 @ 10:42pm CDT
For whats it worth, I really felt the annual cemented Primus as being part of this world.
Re: Variant Covers for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #7 by Alex Milne, James Raiz, Jack Lawrence (1886749)
Posted by Kurona on June 4th, 2017 @ 5:28am CDT
Posted by Kurona on June 4th, 2017 @ 5:28am CDT
Depends on your interpretation. Current IDW does play quite a bit with Atheism vs. Religion and I don't feel it's a mistake that they haven't taken one particular side.
Re: Variant Covers for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #7 by Alex Milne, James Raiz, Jack Lawrence (1886856)
Posted by Rodimus Prime on June 4th, 2017 @ 2:03pm CDT
As for Primus and Unicron having been around, while that's true, their conflicts haven't been elaborated on, only that Primus created the Transformers to defeat Unicron in G1 and their various appearances in the Unicron Trilogy where they didn't even face each other.
Posted by Rodimus Prime on June 4th, 2017 @ 2:03pm CDT
Even so, that's a handshake.Soundwave902 wrote:Rodimus Prime wrote:It looks like he's shaking someone's hand with Megatron facing away from them.Soundwave902 wrote:Either Magnus is holding Megatron's hand (Please not another love subplot) or Megatron is getting arrested by Magnus on account of the fact he has no cuffs.
That's Megatron's hand though
As for Primus and Unicron having been around, while that's true, their conflicts haven't been elaborated on, only that Primus created the Transformers to defeat Unicron in G1 and their various appearances in the Unicron Trilogy where they didn't even face each other.
Re: Variant Covers for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #7 by Alex Milne, James Raiz, Jack Lawrence (1887447)
Posted by Kurona on June 6th, 2017 @ 5:12pm CDT
Posted by Kurona on June 6th, 2017 @ 5:12pm CDT
I don't know where else to put this; but James Roberts has not just heard of the German Transformers magazines, has not just read them; he owns them. I now fully expect Getaway to call Hosehead Horsehead.
Re: Variant Covers for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #7 by Alex Milne, James Raiz, Jack Lawrence (1887451)
Posted by Va'al on June 6th, 2017 @ 5:26pm CDT
Posted by Va'al on June 6th, 2017 @ 5:26pm CDT
Issue #6 is out this Wednesday, and we have yet to see a preview for issue #7, but the iTunes page for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #8 is up and running - sans three-page preview - and showing off the Nick Roche / Josh Burcham variant cover featuring Nautica and Anode on what seems to be an organic alien planet. Check it out below (via Roche and Burcham on Twitter)!
THE HUNT IS ON! Ever lost something and spent forever looking for it? Try visiting Troja Major, the lost property capital of the universe. Just bear in mind that it's better known by another name: the Howling Town. And the Autobots are about to find out why.
Re: Variant Covers for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #7 by Alex Milne, James Raiz, Jack Lawrence (1887454)
Posted by Kurona on June 6th, 2017 @ 5:29pm CDT
Posted by Kurona on June 6th, 2017 @ 5:29pm CDT
Man, it's rare we get to see so many non-human organics. This should be fun...
Re: Variant Covers for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #7 by Alex Milne, James Raiz, Jack Lawrence (1887526)
Posted by Randomhero on June 6th, 2017 @ 10:42pm CDT
Posted by Randomhero on June 6th, 2017 @ 10:42pm CDT
It's always great to see more art from Nick but his Nautica has and will always be fugly as hell.
Re: Variant Covers for IDW Transformers: Lost Light #7 by Alex Milne, James Raiz, Jack Lawrence (1887569)
Posted by ScottyP on June 7th, 2017 @ 3:43am CDT
Hype is a fickle beast. Comic publishers, writers, artists, and other creators need it to drive sales. Sites like the one you're on, right here at Seibertron.com, need to communicate this hype via solicitations, a slow drip of cover art, and back issue sales as a service to our readers as this ends up being the medium through which information on upcoming books is disseminated. The net effect is positive until this hype becomes unrealized upon a product's release.
While that might sound like a foreboding portent of a negative review, it isn't. It's time for Lost Light #6, and it's time for you to check the hype at the door because there's bound to be something in store you didn't see coming. Don't disappoint yourself, and give a dose of empathy to the awesome creators bringing these stories and their hype to you every month.
It is tempting to not get to the point of the review, I agree
The crisis on Functionist Cybertron comprises the main story line given focus within this issue. There are only so many pages to wrap up a plethora of plot points, and a series of cleverly sequenced events along with a twist that feels right out of Attack on Titan helps this issue deliver on most of these points. The action is fast, furious, and even the dialogue in between avoids going over-long. There's a melancholic moment involving Ratchet and Rung that's so typical of Ratchet's life that it's heart-wrenching, which makes a parallel moment later in the issue deliver a very well-timed and uplifting beat.
Can we not? Or maybe do it quickly?
The Anode story has been controversial with fans of the book, with many readers enjoying it and many others ready for it to wrap up as soon as possible. I'll admit I actually started in the former camp and ended up in the latter. There is a satisfying conclusion to what can be described as a story that introduces the character of Anode in a detailed way throughout the course of a portion of six issues. It is a story with a poignant message, honest emotion, and internal conflict you can empathize with. The ultimate point of it now seems clear, dangerous as it is to assume you really know anything in a James Roberts Transformers story. That point also makes sense within other events going on. On top of that, this also has another thing going for it: the pages focusing on Anode provide a spot to stop and breathe a little when your heart gets racing from the other action in the book.
With all of that noted, something about Anode's story didn't hit the mark. Having the earlier issues paint Anode as not necessary sympathetic might have caused that for me. Additionally, I found there to be one point in this issue where it ground the pacing to an awkward halt before it picked up again shortly thereafter. This is the most subjective part of this whole review, as there's a great deal of objectively positive material within this backup story, so my slightly empty feeling upon reading this part of the book will not apply to all readers.
I see what you did there and will tell our glorious Captain of your treachery.
Getting back to the main story of the issue, this continues to paint Rung, Rodimus, and Megatron as the three main characters of "Dissolution". It could well be argued that (Megatron's absence pre-More Than Meets The Eye 28 aside) these are also the three main characters of the series, and Rodimus does get ample time in Lost Light 6 as the captain of a stranded crew trying to get back to the first place in which they were stranded. He's under a lot of stress and it starts to bubble up to the surface in the most Rodimus-like ways you could imagine. There are times you'll cheer for him and times you'll be disappointed like your parents were when your report card wasn't up to muster despite you working very hard that one semester. His growth from here as a character seems to be approaching a tipping point, and it feels like we'll know for certain before the year's out whether or not Rodimus is fulfilling his legacy by starring in his Bildungsroman (of a sort since age is weird with Transformers), or if he's going to be a more tragic figure.
Keep talking. No, seriously, I want to read more of your words.
The final pages of the issue create one of those moving experiences that has driven the massive following and respect that James Roberts has earned as a writer. Megatron's been on an odyssey for the last four years on our calendars. To say that this has been a remarkable, fulfilling, thought provoking journey would be an understatement. It continues here in a meaningful manner and is set up by an unexpected plot twist, all the while presenting challenges to traditional science fiction notions of the standards by which to judge the intrinsic value of non-human lives. Some of you saw the twist coming, while others will be blinded by phrasing that doesn't fit the common vernacular of their politics and won't look under the surface for the universally positive themes, but if one or both of those applies to you there's at least a visual gag along the way for you to enjoy.
There's one thing that I think all Transformers fans will agree on, and that is that the last panel is positively joyful.
Or is it absolutely terrifying?
What did I say about agreeing on it?
Actually, this doesn't need words.
Jack Lawrence's art has rounded into form quite nicely as this series has progressed. He works well with the layouts provided and brings depth to scenes, especially in wider shots where a sense of scale and distance is important. Joana Lafuente's colors assist with this in a big way, and some special call out is in order for the fantastic use of lighting and contrast between scenes and environments. There was one point in this issue where the layout didn't fit the significance of the moment, when a particular 'bot fighting off a moon ceases to be able to do so. This could have used a bigger panel and perhaps the earlier mentioned backup story could have taken a step back to provide room for such moments, but it's not a cause of any major detriment in the grand scheme of things.
Tom B. Long is masterful as usual on lettering. Some of Megatron's lines in particular stood out as having a cadence thanks to the layout of the speech bubbles that made them more effective. One thought, over to another, over to another, and then back around to the point without going in circles. Brilliant stuff that I won't directly post here to avoid spoilers.
There are several great cover options, such as the main Jack Lawrence cover (serving as this review's news story thumbnail) with colors by Lafuente, as well as a fantastically detailed piece from Alex Milne and Josh Perez, rounded out with a ten-copy incentive cover by Marcelo Matere that oozes the tone of Hasbro toy packaging art from another time in the best way. As always, you can find full credits for the issue in our Vector Sigma Database page for Transformers: Lost Light #6, but do note it does contain a character appearance list that some may consider a spoiler.
I was probably harsher on Lost Light 5 than I needed to be. That's in light of having the totality of "Dissolution" now available to take a look through. This sixth issue is a great ending to a good chapter of a still phenomenal overall story. Personally, I found "Dissolution" to be held back by some pacing issues. Room to breathe is nice, of course, there were just times it felt closer to being given room for a nap.
On the whole, the negatives end there. This chapter of the quest moves the plot along in a significant way, continues the meaningful character work that's a staple of the series, and will have you ready for more.
Lost Light 6 in particular is the best issue out of the first six, and gives readers at least one moment they'll never forget while setting up a tight canvas for what's to come. Be sure to catch this one and the rest of "Dissolution", and subscribe to the series through some paid method if you like it. Support is important.
Bonus! James Roberts' soundtrack suggestions for this issue:
Posted by ScottyP on June 7th, 2017 @ 3:43am CDT
Deckard's Toad
A Review of Transformers: Lost Light #6
Free of any explicit spoilers, but be forewarned some may be implied.
Caught up? Good.
A Review of Transformers: Lost Light #6
Free of any explicit spoilers, but be forewarned some may be implied.
Caught up? Good.
Hype is a fickle beast. Comic publishers, writers, artists, and other creators need it to drive sales. Sites like the one you're on, right here at Seibertron.com, need to communicate this hype via solicitations, a slow drip of cover art, and back issue sales as a service to our readers as this ends up being the medium through which information on upcoming books is disseminated. The net effect is positive until this hype becomes unrealized upon a product's release.
While that might sound like a foreboding portent of a negative review, it isn't. It's time for Lost Light #6, and it's time for you to check the hype at the door because there's bound to be something in store you didn't see coming. Don't disappoint yourself, and give a dose of empathy to the awesome creators bringing these stories and their hype to you every month.
It is tempting to not get to the point of the review, I agree
The crisis on Functionist Cybertron comprises the main story line given focus within this issue. There are only so many pages to wrap up a plethora of plot points, and a series of cleverly sequenced events along with a twist that feels right out of Attack on Titan helps this issue deliver on most of these points. The action is fast, furious, and even the dialogue in between avoids going over-long. There's a melancholic moment involving Ratchet and Rung that's so typical of Ratchet's life that it's heart-wrenching, which makes a parallel moment later in the issue deliver a very well-timed and uplifting beat.
Can we not? Or maybe do it quickly?
The Anode story has been controversial with fans of the book, with many readers enjoying it and many others ready for it to wrap up as soon as possible. I'll admit I actually started in the former camp and ended up in the latter. There is a satisfying conclusion to what can be described as a story that introduces the character of Anode in a detailed way throughout the course of a portion of six issues. It is a story with a poignant message, honest emotion, and internal conflict you can empathize with. The ultimate point of it now seems clear, dangerous as it is to assume you really know anything in a James Roberts Transformers story. That point also makes sense within other events going on. On top of that, this also has another thing going for it: the pages focusing on Anode provide a spot to stop and breathe a little when your heart gets racing from the other action in the book.
With all of that noted, something about Anode's story didn't hit the mark. Having the earlier issues paint Anode as not necessary sympathetic might have caused that for me. Additionally, I found there to be one point in this issue where it ground the pacing to an awkward halt before it picked up again shortly thereafter. This is the most subjective part of this whole review, as there's a great deal of objectively positive material within this backup story, so my slightly empty feeling upon reading this part of the book will not apply to all readers.
I see what you did there and will tell our glorious Captain of your treachery.
Getting back to the main story of the issue, this continues to paint Rung, Rodimus, and Megatron as the three main characters of "Dissolution". It could well be argued that (Megatron's absence pre-More Than Meets The Eye 28 aside) these are also the three main characters of the series, and Rodimus does get ample time in Lost Light 6 as the captain of a stranded crew trying to get back to the first place in which they were stranded. He's under a lot of stress and it starts to bubble up to the surface in the most Rodimus-like ways you could imagine. There are times you'll cheer for him and times you'll be disappointed like your parents were when your report card wasn't up to muster despite you working very hard that one semester. His growth from here as a character seems to be approaching a tipping point, and it feels like we'll know for certain before the year's out whether or not Rodimus is fulfilling his legacy by starring in his Bildungsroman (of a sort since age is weird with Transformers), or if he's going to be a more tragic figure.
Keep talking. No, seriously, I want to read more of your words.
The final pages of the issue create one of those moving experiences that has driven the massive following and respect that James Roberts has earned as a writer. Megatron's been on an odyssey for the last four years on our calendars. To say that this has been a remarkable, fulfilling, thought provoking journey would be an understatement. It continues here in a meaningful manner and is set up by an unexpected plot twist, all the while presenting challenges to traditional science fiction notions of the standards by which to judge the intrinsic value of non-human lives. Some of you saw the twist coming, while others will be blinded by phrasing that doesn't fit the common vernacular of their politics and won't look under the surface for the universally positive themes, but if one or both of those applies to you there's at least a visual gag along the way for you to enjoy.
There's one thing that I think all Transformers fans will agree on, and that is that the last panel is positively joyful.
Or is it absolutely terrifying?
What did I say about agreeing on it?
Actually, this doesn't need words.
Jack Lawrence's art has rounded into form quite nicely as this series has progressed. He works well with the layouts provided and brings depth to scenes, especially in wider shots where a sense of scale and distance is important. Joana Lafuente's colors assist with this in a big way, and some special call out is in order for the fantastic use of lighting and contrast between scenes and environments. There was one point in this issue where the layout didn't fit the significance of the moment, when a particular 'bot fighting off a moon ceases to be able to do so. This could have used a bigger panel and perhaps the earlier mentioned backup story could have taken a step back to provide room for such moments, but it's not a cause of any major detriment in the grand scheme of things.
Tom B. Long is masterful as usual on lettering. Some of Megatron's lines in particular stood out as having a cadence thanks to the layout of the speech bubbles that made them more effective. One thought, over to another, over to another, and then back around to the point without going in circles. Brilliant stuff that I won't directly post here to avoid spoilers.
There are several great cover options, such as the main Jack Lawrence cover (serving as this review's news story thumbnail) with colors by Lafuente, as well as a fantastically detailed piece from Alex Milne and Josh Perez, rounded out with a ten-copy incentive cover by Marcelo Matere that oozes the tone of Hasbro toy packaging art from another time in the best way. As always, you can find full credits for the issue in our Vector Sigma Database page for Transformers: Lost Light #6, but do note it does contain a character appearance list that some may consider a spoiler.
Verdict
No, you go read it yourself!
No, you go read it yourself!
I was probably harsher on Lost Light 5 than I needed to be. That's in light of having the totality of "Dissolution" now available to take a look through. This sixth issue is a great ending to a good chapter of a still phenomenal overall story. Personally, I found "Dissolution" to be held back by some pacing issues. Room to breathe is nice, of course, there were just times it felt closer to being given room for a nap.
On the whole, the negatives end there. This chapter of the quest moves the plot along in a significant way, continues the meaningful character work that's a staple of the series, and will have you ready for more.
Lost Light 6 in particular is the best issue out of the first six, and gives readers at least one moment they'll never forget while setting up a tight canvas for what's to come. Be sure to catch this one and the rest of "Dissolution", and subscribe to the series through some paid method if you like it. Support is important.
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and 1/2 out of
and 1/2 out of Bonus! James Roberts' soundtrack suggestions for this issue:
- Damien Jurado - "Cloudy Shoes"
- The Scotland Yard Gospel Choir - "Everything You Paid For"
- Tom Brosseau - "Favourite Colour Blue"
- Sixpence None The Richer - "I Won't Share You"
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Posted by Bounti76 on June 7th, 2017 @ 3:56am CDT
Posted by Bounti76 on June 7th, 2017 @ 3:56am CDT
Maybe I need to go back and reread the entire arc, but that ending just screamed "COPOUT!!" to me. Of course Megatron won't face justice in his home universe! That would end his character development!. Though, while typing that, I realized that it's probably why it was done. Still, I saw he and Terminus staying in the Functionist Universe coming from an alternate universe away.
Second question/point/discussion starter: Will Anode's resurrecting Lug mean that we're going to get a lot of dead characters back? Because while that's tempting to want to bring Skids and others back, it would COMPLETELY negate the emotional impact of their deaths.
Second question/point/discussion starter: Will Anode's resurrecting Lug mean that we're going to get a lot of dead characters back? Because while that's tempting to want to bring Skids and others back, it would COMPLETELY negate the emotional impact of their deaths.
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Posted by Bounti76 on June 7th, 2017 @ 4:01am CDT
Posted by Bounti76 on June 7th, 2017 @ 4:01am CDT
Also, just commenting on the link to the news story near the end of the review.......I thought neither profitability nor popularity was the issue with TAAO- Scott said that issue 12 was the profitability point and that it was the higher-ups at IDW who asked her to do a new story and she said no because she didn't want to write something that her heart wasn't into. But I'll continue that in the TAAO thread
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Posted by Va'al on June 7th, 2017 @ 5:03am CDT
See, the first reaction I had with ScottyP as we discussed the review was: Now *that* is an ending. Much like you, I also expected Megatron to not make it out of the Functionist universe, though not like this, admittedly. I also agree that the 'facing justice' point may be developed further, given the cover for next issue, featuring Megatron and Ultra Magnus parting ways with a handshake. Whatever that may mean.
As for your second point - I agree. A lot.
Posted by Va'al on June 7th, 2017 @ 5:03am CDT
Bounti76 wrote:Maybe I need to go back and reread the entire arc, but that ending just screamed "COPOUT!!" to me.
See, the first reaction I had with ScottyP as we discussed the review was: Now *that* is an ending. Much like you, I also expected Megatron to not make it out of the Functionist universe, though not like this, admittedly. I also agree that the 'facing justice' point may be developed further, given the cover for next issue, featuring Megatron and Ultra Magnus parting ways with a handshake. Whatever that may mean.
As for your second point - I agree. A lot.
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Posted by Kurona on June 7th, 2017 @ 5:03am CDT
Posted by Kurona on June 7th, 2017 @ 5:03am CDT
MTMTE is back.
That's all I could think when I finished this issue. It's been a very bumpy ride to get here, and as Scotty notes there's certainly a fair share of negatives; but this is where I feel my favourite comic can once again take the throne. It's funny - right as TAAO's announced to be ending, Lost Light gets good again. There's some sort of conspiracy in there...
That's all I could think when I finished this issue. It's been a very bumpy ride to get here, and as Scotty notes there's certainly a fair share of negatives; but this is where I feel my favourite comic can once again take the throne. It's funny - right as TAAO's announced to be ending, Lost Light gets good again. There's some sort of conspiracy in there...
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Posted by Randomhero on June 7th, 2017 @ 6:07am CDT
Posted by Randomhero on June 7th, 2017 @ 6:07am CDT
I hated it. There's no other way to put it. I hated this story and disliked this entire issue. Only thing I walked with after finishing it was "well he's not staying there that's for sure."
Like last issue I said the was a whole series convenient coincidences and that honestly should be the title of the trade. I found the entirety extremely weak and not a good first story to this relaunch.
Great art from jack. I'll give it that.
Now to wait and see how Roberts juggles dealing with the fact that this story is over 5 months behind the regular continuity of everything else and see how that pans out.
Like last issue I said the was a whole series convenient coincidences and that honestly should be the title of the trade. I found the entirety extremely weak and not a good first story to this relaunch.
Great art from jack. I'll give it that.
Now to wait and see how Roberts juggles dealing with the fact that this story is over 5 months behind the regular continuity of everything else and see how that pans out.
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Posted by Randomhero on June 7th, 2017 @ 6:30am CDT
What I thought at the end was "okay? So what the hell was the point of introducing functionalist-verse Annode?" She did absolutely nothing! Her contribution to that part of the story was utterly meaningless. Clicker did more! A laser pointer was more valuable
Posted by Randomhero on June 7th, 2017 @ 6:30am CDT
Kurona wrote:MTMTE is back.
That's all I could think when I finished this issue. It's been a very bumpy ride to get here, and as Scotty notes there's certainly a fair share of negatives; but this is where I feel my favourite comic can once again take the throne. It's funny - right as TAAO's announced to be ending, Lost Light gets good again. There's some sort of conspiracy in there...
What I thought at the end was "okay? So what the hell was the point of introducing functionalist-verse Annode?" She did absolutely nothing! Her contribution to that part of the story was utterly meaningless. Clicker did more! A laser pointer was more valuable
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Posted by Kurona on June 7th, 2017 @ 6:48am CDT
That's a little bit functionist
Posted by Kurona on June 7th, 2017 @ 6:48am CDT
Randomhero wrote:Clicker did more! A laser pointer was more valuable
That's a little bit functionist
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Posted by ScottyP on June 7th, 2017 @ 8:12am CDT
Posted by ScottyP on June 7th, 2017 @ 8:12am CDT
I just really enjoyed that Glitch is one of the bots sitting around listening to Megatron at the end. It made me laugh!
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Posted by william-james88 on June 7th, 2017 @ 10:18am CDT
Yeah, I caught that too, it was really neat!
Posted by william-james88 on June 7th, 2017 @ 10:18am CDT
ScottyP wrote:I just really enjoyed that Glitch is one of the bots sitting around listening to Megatron at the end. It made me laugh!
Yeah, I caught that too, it was really neat!
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Posted by Randomhero on June 7th, 2017 @ 10:18am CDT
That April fools joke of autobot Kultur might happen after all
Posted by Randomhero on June 7th, 2017 @ 10:18am CDT
ScottyP wrote:I just really enjoyed that Glitch is one of the bots sitting around listening to Megatron at the end. It made me laugh!
That April fools joke of autobot Kultur might happen after all
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Posted by william-james88 on June 7th, 2017 @ 3:10pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on June 7th, 2017 @ 3:10pm CDT
I really look forward to this issue, and I am curious about the twists it holds. The one thing I wanted to say is that while I like how Lawrence draws some characters, there are exagerations from him that bug the hell out of me. Like Chromedome's wheels. Yeesh, those things are enormous and they are very distracting and hard to take the script seriously whenever Chromedome appears. Thats my main beef.
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Posted by Cyhwuhx on June 7th, 2017 @ 3:12pm CDT
Considering Rung's "ability", it seems we now have an entire Necroworld full of bots waiting to be re-contructed cold. But since the Necrobot himself is out, this will probably mean only bots that got the rite.
Posted by Cyhwuhx on June 7th, 2017 @ 3:12pm CDT
Bounti76 wrote:Maybe I need to go back and reread the entire arc, but that ending just screamed "COPOUT!!" to me. Of course Megatron won't face justice in his home universe! That would end his character development!. Though, while typing that, I realized that it's probably why it was done. Still, I saw he and Terminus staying in the Functionist Universe coming from an alternate universe away.
Second question/point/discussion starter: Will Anode's resurrecting Lug mean that we're going to get a lot of dead characters back? Because while that's tempting to want to bring Skids and others back, it would COMPLETELY negate the emotional impact of their deaths.
Considering Rung's "ability", it seems we now have an entire Necroworld full of bots waiting to be re-contructed cold. But since the Necrobot himself is out, this will probably mean only bots that got the rite.
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Posted by pie-man on June 7th, 2017 @ 11:30pm CDT
Posted by pie-man on June 7th, 2017 @ 11:30pm CDT
A little heart-wrenching & melancholic.... I've really gotten to love the character of Megatron and I'm kinda sad.
That being said, with TAAO being canceled, I wonder if we'd get a new monthly title featuring Megatron, Terminus and alternate-Rung, Anode (& possibly Orion Pax) set in Functionist Cybertron. I think there are some great stories that can be told from that Universe.
And heck, considering its been nearly a year (?) since we heard about Prowl, Red Alert & Fort Max on Luna 2... I don't want to wait that long between issues to find out what Megs has been upto.
That being said, with TAAO being canceled, I wonder if we'd get a new monthly title featuring Megatron, Terminus and alternate-Rung, Anode (& possibly Orion Pax) set in Functionist Cybertron. I think there are some great stories that can be told from that Universe.
And heck, considering its been nearly a year (?) since we heard about Prowl, Red Alert & Fort Max on Luna 2... I don't want to wait that long between issues to find out what Megs has been upto.
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Posted by Rodimus Prime on June 8th, 2017 @ 2:54am CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on June 8th, 2017 @ 2:54am CDT
Throughout IDW (and even the entire Aligned Universe) we read about how Megatron led a revolution "way back then." Him organizing an uprising in the Functionist Universe might be a way of us getting to see him actually doing it in present time? (I haven't read any of LL yet, I'm just going on the tidbits of info I catch now and then. I'm waiting for the TPB so I can read the whole story all at once. It makes Roberts' sub-par writing a bit easier to tolerate.)
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Posted by Kurona on June 8th, 2017 @ 6:04am CDT
Posted by Kurona on June 8th, 2017 @ 6:04am CDT
In retrospect this scene takes on very different meaning. God damn it.
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Posted by ScottyP on June 8th, 2017 @ 7:42am CDT
Posted by ScottyP on June 8th, 2017 @ 7:42am CDT
I sat down and re-read LL 1-6 last night and I completely recommend taking them in during one sitting.Rodimus Prime wrote:I'm waiting for the TPB so I can read the whole story all at once.
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 8th, 2017 @ 7:36pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 8th, 2017 @ 7:36pm CDT
I'm sort of with Randomhero on this. I felt it was subpar, and even though I liked the Megatron stuff, that is about the only bit that really felt good. I would personally give the overall arc a 2.5 out of 5. It didn't feel good, it felt flat, and I agree with lots of the points brought up about Anode. That just should not have happened. would have removed a bad character, freed up more pages to deal with things that needed more pages, and would also remove the whole "Rung can make crystals, Anode can fashion them, baboom, entire race resurrected" idea (not that it will happen)
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Posted by ricemazter on June 8th, 2017 @ 9:38pm CDT
As far as I can tell, functionist Anode is in the story because almost all of her character development takes place away from arc's action. Roberts needs to introduce this new character, tell the audience what she's all about, and introduce her emotional baggage, but he can't integrate her into the main plot because she wouldn't have anything to do in the functionist universe. So, he places an alternate version of her in the functionist universe (the arc's A-story), so that the time devoted to her in the B-story doesn't seem out of place. In my opinion, it doesn't work.
Overall, I found this arc to be pretty sub-par. It definitely feels like the entire point of the functionist universe was to get Megatron off the crew of the Lost Light (which I totally called), while setting up a ton of potential B-stories, only one of which is resolved during this arc. One weird thing I've noticed about Robert's writing: he makes it very obvious what exactly he wants to do in structuring a story and then sometimes bends the plot over backwards to make that happen.
Posted by ricemazter on June 8th, 2017 @ 9:38pm CDT
Randomhero wrote:Kurona wrote:MTMTE is back.
That's all I could think when I finished this issue. It's been a very bumpy ride to get here, and as Scotty notes there's certainly a fair share of negatives; but this is where I feel my favourite comic can once again take the throne. It's funny - right as TAAO's announced to be ending, Lost Light gets good again. There's some sort of conspiracy in there...
What I thought at the end was "okay? So what the hell was the point of introducing functionalist-verse Annode?" She did absolutely nothing! Her contribution to that part of the story was utterly meaningless. Clicker did more! A laser pointer was more valuable
As far as I can tell, functionist Anode is in the story because almost all of her character development takes place away from arc's action. Roberts needs to introduce this new character, tell the audience what she's all about, and introduce her emotional baggage, but he can't integrate her into the main plot because she wouldn't have anything to do in the functionist universe. So, he places an alternate version of her in the functionist universe (the arc's A-story), so that the time devoted to her in the B-story doesn't seem out of place. In my opinion, it doesn't work.
Overall, I found this arc to be pretty sub-par. It definitely feels like the entire point of the functionist universe was to get Megatron off the crew of the Lost Light (which I totally called), while setting up a ton of potential B-stories, only one of which is resolved during this arc. One weird thing I've noticed about Robert's writing: he makes it very obvious what exactly he wants to do in structuring a story and then sometimes bends the plot over backwards to make that happen.
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Posted by Rodimus Prime on June 9th, 2017 @ 7:54am CDT
Posted by Rodimus Prime on June 9th, 2017 @ 7:54am CDT
Yeah, I learned this lesson with "Dying of the Light." I read them individually, and kept thinking "WTF? This sux!" until I got to the showdown with Tarn and Megatron, but then I got the TPB and read it all at once and it went much better. Roberts is still very overrated IMO.ScottyP wrote:I sat down and re-read LL 1-6 last night and I completely recommend taking them in during one sitting.Rodimus Prime wrote:I'm waiting for the TPB so I can read the whole story all at once.
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Posted by william-james88 on June 13th, 2017 @ 12:04am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on June 13th, 2017 @ 12:04am CDT
I am reading back on stories I missed and one of them was when the lost lighters were chasing brainstorm through time.
I am really confused by this scene below where Cyclonus kicks Tailgate out of the blue. Why does he do that?
I am really confused by this scene below where Cyclonus kicks Tailgate out of the blue. Why does he do that?
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Posted by pie-man on June 13th, 2017 @ 12:07am CDT
Posted by pie-man on June 13th, 2017 @ 12:07am CDT
I think it's meant to represent a "flashback" to the scene way back where Cyclonus kicks/stomps Tailgate before they got together. It was around that time when Tailgate declared to Magnus that he wanted to become a Decepticon after spending time with Cyclonus and then went and confronted him.
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Posted by Shockwave 8 on June 13th, 2017 @ 12:38am CDT
Posted by Shockwave 8 on June 13th, 2017 @ 12:38am CDT
Indeed. It is just showing what Cyclonus is apologizing for. I remember being confused at first too.
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Posted by WreckerJack on June 13th, 2017 @ 2:14am CDT
Posted by WreckerJack on June 13th, 2017 @ 2:14am CDT
Finally got around to reading 6. Wasn't too impressed with it but it does move the plot along. I feel like they could have done a lot more with it and Rung getting temporarily killed was just for shock value. I knew Rung wouldn't be permanently killed because if he were to die pointlessly it would probably piss off half the MTMTE fanbase. The sight of him laying there dead did make me a bit uncomfortable but it was so predictable I didn't even truly get upset, even as much as I like the little nerdy fella. Also the ending of them being back didn't really feel eventful? There were some lighthearted moments that made me happy but something feels missing? IDK maybe I am being too picky. I'll give it a second read when I am in a more neutral state of mind.
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Posted by william-james88 on June 13th, 2017 @ 11:51am CDT
Thanks for answering tha questions guys. Yea, looking at it knowing this, it makes sense, but i had forgotten about that time.
Posted by william-james88 on June 13th, 2017 @ 11:51am CDT
Shockwave 8 wrote:Indeed. It is just showing what Cyclonus is apologizing for. I remember being confused at first too.
Thanks for answering tha questions guys. Yea, looking at it knowing this, it makes sense, but i had forgotten about that time.
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Posted by SimianProphet on June 18th, 2017 @ 9:09pm CDT
Posted by SimianProphet on June 18th, 2017 @ 9:09pm CDT
I quite liked the book, and Jack Lawrence's art is improving by the issue. So here are my thoughts on where the story might be going. This is just me extrapolating a few thoughts, but I'll put it in spoiler tags anyways, just in case:
What if: Is this the beginnings of a mirror universe (like Shattered Glass)?
The Functionist universe was created by an alternate timeline where Megatron did not exist, and the ramifications of this was that the Functionist government was not torn down. But remember that Megatron also had a huge influence on Orion Pax, and without that influence, he may not be the Op we now know. Perhaps without Megatron's influence, Pax might have been a more willing participant of the functionist government.
While Mirror Universes may be a bit of a cliché these days, having one that is a logical offshoot of established story and character events would actually be pretty cool. Unless I'm completely wrong, and none of that happens. Roberts will surely follow of on the ending with Megatron receiving contact from Optimus, but we'll have to see which side Optimus is on now.
We probably won't have to wait long to find out if I'm right, or if I was just spouting elaborate fan fiction.
What if: Is this the beginnings of a mirror universe (like Shattered Glass)?
The Functionist universe was created by an alternate timeline where Megatron did not exist, and the ramifications of this was that the Functionist government was not torn down. But remember that Megatron also had a huge influence on Orion Pax, and without that influence, he may not be the Op we now know. Perhaps without Megatron's influence, Pax might have been a more willing participant of the functionist government.
While Mirror Universes may be a bit of a cliché these days, having one that is a logical offshoot of established story and character events would actually be pretty cool. Unless I'm completely wrong, and none of that happens. Roberts will surely follow of on the ending with Megatron receiving contact from Optimus, but we'll have to see which side Optimus is on now.
We probably won't have to wait long to find out if I'm right, or if I was just spouting elaborate fan fiction.
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Posted by WreckerJack on June 19th, 2017 @ 9:39am CDT
That would be very interesting. I would read that story for sure.
Posted by WreckerJack on June 19th, 2017 @ 9:39am CDT
SimianProphet wrote:We probably won't have to wait long to find out if I'm right, or if I was just spouting elaborate fan fiction.
That would be very interesting. I would read that story for sure.
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Posted by ricemazter on June 21st, 2017 @ 12:56pm CDT
That would be kind of cool. I always wanted to see a more fleshed out
shattered glass universe. It's one of those concepts with a lot of potential, but poor execution. My personal fan fic would be to take Optimus' and Megatron's positions and reverse the consequences.
EX:
Both want to change the world away from functionist control, but Optimus still believes in working with the system. He gradually rises in rank, coming incredibly close to the functionist council. However, he's witnessed/participated in too many terrible things by that point to retain his optimism/faith. He uses the support he's amassed to stage a coup, violently taking on the council, which fights back. Megatron sees the conflict getting out of hand and steps in
Eventually Optimus defeats the council and turns his full attention to Megatron and his decepticons.
One thing I always liked about SG was that Optimus was actually insane, talking to corpses and such. I remember a throwaway line in IDW where Hot Rod describes his interface with the matrix and being connected to all transformers as pleasant while Optimus experienced pain. In a new SG universe, maybe the council notices Optimus' matrix affinity. They offer him the matrix and the primacy for his years of loyal service. He finally believes himself in a position to change cybertron for the better. However, upon interfacing with the matrix for the first time, the sudden connection to all cybertronians and the pain he's inflicted drive him mad. Then he resorts to violence
Just headcanon.
Posted by ricemazter on June 21st, 2017 @ 12:56pm CDT
WreckerJack wrote:SimianProphet wrote:We probably won't have to wait long to find out if I'm right, or if I was just spouting elaborate fan fiction.
That would be very interesting. I would read that story for sure.
That would be kind of cool. I always wanted to see a more fleshed out
shattered glass universe. It's one of those concepts with a lot of potential, but poor execution. My personal fan fic would be to take Optimus' and Megatron's positions and reverse the consequences.
EX:
Both want to change the world away from functionist control, but Optimus still believes in working with the system. He gradually rises in rank, coming incredibly close to the functionist council. However, he's witnessed/participated in too many terrible things by that point to retain his optimism/faith. He uses the support he's amassed to stage a coup, violently taking on the council, which fights back. Megatron sees the conflict getting out of hand and steps in
Eventually Optimus defeats the council and turns his full attention to Megatron and his decepticons.
One thing I always liked about SG was that Optimus was actually insane, talking to corpses and such. I remember a throwaway line in IDW where Hot Rod describes his interface with the matrix and being connected to all transformers as pleasant while Optimus experienced pain. In a new SG universe, maybe the council notices Optimus' matrix affinity. They offer him the matrix and the primacy for his years of loyal service. He finally believes himself in a position to change cybertron for the better. However, upon interfacing with the matrix for the first time, the sudden connection to all cybertronians and the pain he's inflicted drive him mad. Then he resorts to violence
Just headcanon.
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Posted by WreckerJack on June 21st, 2017 @ 2:58pm CDT
Posted by WreckerJack on June 21st, 2017 @ 2:58pm CDT
It would make for an interesting read.
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Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 21st, 2017 @ 5:06pm CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on June 21st, 2017 @ 5:06pm CDT
Thanks to Seibertronian ScottyP, we have word that iTunes has uploaded the next Lost Light preview! Lost Light #7 picks up as an epilogue to the first 6 issues, with Rodimus planning his escape using a dead con and some nasty functionalists techniques, typical jokes being thrown about, and a reborn Lug making an appearance. Check out the preview below, and let us know what you think in the comments section below.
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Posted by ScottyP on June 21st, 2017 @ 5:27pm CDT
Posted by ScottyP on June 21st, 2017 @ 5:27pm CDT
Rodimus is really funny here to me. He's being really bad at what he's trying to do.
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Posted by Kurona on June 21st, 2017 @ 5:27pm CDT
This is why I can't help but love him. He's basically me!
Posted by Kurona on June 21st, 2017 @ 5:27pm CDT
ScottyP wrote:Rodimus is really funny here to me. He's being really bad at what he's trying to do.
This is why I can't help but love him. He's basically me!
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