Try Not to Lose Your Head: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 5 REVIEW
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We are just about to the half way point of the new Power of the Primes cartoon, so obviously in the 5th episode, the story should really start ramping up, right?
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right?
Let's take a look and find out, as we delve into "Athenaeum Sanctorum"
Ah yes, my favorite republican senator.
(The following review contains heavy spoilers for the POTP cartoon. Seriously. Characters die and stuff. Proceed at your own risk.)
While last week's episode stayed pretty tight with our main cast of characters, we branch off quite a bit in terms of both plot lines, characters, and backdrops this week. Similarly unlike weeks prior, we make quite a bit of a jump in time from episode to episode. Normally episodes pick up exactly where the previous ones left off, almost like just a commercial break, but in episode 5 we see the Dinobots already out on their own after Grimlock leaves on the main quest to find the Prime Library, and with the main cast already considerably on their way trough the journey, right at the library door. For such a linear, spoonfed, slow moving series, this was actually pretty jolting for me. I had to go back and make sure I didn't miss an episode.
Anyway, speaking of the Dinobots, they just happen to run into Rodimus and Overlord, because everybody's in this damn swamp apparently. The two baddies are hot on the trail of Megatron and the Requiem Blaster.
Swamp Ex Machinima
The Dinobots hide out on a cliff watching the two below. Overlord's upset that they can't find Megatron or the blaster, and starts randomly shooting the ground a bunch of times for some reason. Rodimus says that they're being watched, and blasts the ledge the dinos were hiding behind, revealing their location.
The pair take the dinobots hostage, and promptly start questioning them, trying to find out where the rest of the cast went.
*sigh* You know what this looks like. You don't need me to tell you what this looks like.
As Overlord tries to get the information out of Snarl by sitting with him like a gossiping teenage girl, Rodimus Cron threatens Sludge. Snarl finally lets it slip that they were headed to a library, and they, with the help of Unicron taking over Rodimus' body, put the rest of the pieces together. With one final punch, Rodimus kills Sludge. Just like that.
While the scene, and the following one where the surviving Dinobots morn Sludge, work really well emotionally (as this series goes), Snarl's voice is not good, and it doesn't make a lot of sense. The Dinobots have been running circles around Windblade, Perceptor, and Victorion for four episodes now. Granted that was with Grimlock, but they were still huge and could hold their own against enemies. In this scene they just lay down and take it. Rodimus killing Sludge also brings some questions, some of which might have even been intentional: Surely Rodimus can't be THAT strong. I understand that this show is trying to establish him as unstoppable force to really be reckoned with, but at the same time even Unicron couldn't have made him this strong and unstoppable.
ONE PPPPPUNCH!!!
Speaking of Windblade, Perceptor, and Victorion, we catch up with them in the next scene. They, along with Megatron, Grimlock, and Optimus Primal, are now in a frozen tundra biome, where the clue from the cave in the last episode is leading them.
Now, I'm not even going to attempt to explain the next minute and a half, but just know it is some of the wierdest, worst psuedo science I have ever heard in any form of media. Something about parallel lines that somehow meet, and infinity, and the center of the center (?????) and stuff like that.
I have, just, NO clue.
Anyway, somehow they find their way to the Sanctorum, and they're all taken aback by the temple inside. It is, admittedly, a very nice set piece. Megatron runs in to use of the computer systems, and Perceptor butts in.
"What will you do?" "Oh, the exact same thing as you, but sCiENtiFiCALly!"
Percy finds a page relating to the Requiem Blaster and reads it out loud. It explains that the Requiem Blaster was hidden because Megatronus killed Solus with it. The other Primes entrusted a guardian to protect it, which at some point through the generations became Optimus Primal. Why Primal wasn't able to tell them at least some of this information, the world will never know.
As everyone's distracted by the shiny computer, Rodimus and Overlord catch up, and somehow silently bring Victorion to her knees. Rodimus chokes her, (even though robots don't breathe, but you can find an in depth analysis of this problem thanks to our Energon Pub patrons;) ) eventually tearing her head off, with her body falling to the ground. As this series goes, this is an extremely dark death. It's not played up as dramatically as I think it could have been, but it is an interesting turn. With that, the episode ends.
Aw, sick! This ancient archive of the Primes has Go90!
This episode was admittedly boring, but things at least happened, which is an achievement unto itself. The darker parts were interesting, and cement Overlord and Rodimus as at least interesting to watch. I'm liking the treasure hunt/tourist's guide to the ancient temples of Cybertron story line to be completely honest, I just wish it had moved a bit faster a bit earlier. This episode wasn't nearly as laugh (or scream) out loud bad as some of the past ones have, which is progress. We really have been stuck in the swamp this entire time, so at the very least we can be happy that not only has the story found it's footing, we were also treated to several changes of scenery, which is really all I could ask for. Just please. PLEASE. Don't go back to that damn swamp.
(I leave you with an excellent GIF from our newsie Qwan. See you next week!
...
...
...
right?
Let's take a look and find out, as we delve into "Athenaeum Sanctorum"
Ah yes, my favorite republican senator.
(The following review contains heavy spoilers for the POTP cartoon. Seriously. Characters die and stuff. Proceed at your own risk.)
While last week's episode stayed pretty tight with our main cast of characters, we branch off quite a bit in terms of both plot lines, characters, and backdrops this week. Similarly unlike weeks prior, we make quite a bit of a jump in time from episode to episode. Normally episodes pick up exactly where the previous ones left off, almost like just a commercial break, but in episode 5 we see the Dinobots already out on their own after Grimlock leaves on the main quest to find the Prime Library, and with the main cast already considerably on their way trough the journey, right at the library door. For such a linear, spoonfed, slow moving series, this was actually pretty jolting for me. I had to go back and make sure I didn't miss an episode.
Anyway, speaking of the Dinobots, they just happen to run into Rodimus and Overlord, because everybody's in this damn swamp apparently. The two baddies are hot on the trail of Megatron and the Requiem Blaster.
Swamp Ex Machinima
The Dinobots hide out on a cliff watching the two below. Overlord's upset that they can't find Megatron or the blaster, and starts randomly shooting the ground a bunch of times for some reason. Rodimus says that they're being watched, and blasts the ledge the dinos were hiding behind, revealing their location.
The pair take the dinobots hostage, and promptly start questioning them, trying to find out where the rest of the cast went.
*sigh* You know what this looks like. You don't need me to tell you what this looks like.
As Overlord tries to get the information out of Snarl by sitting with him like a gossiping teenage girl, Rodimus Cron threatens Sludge. Snarl finally lets it slip that they were headed to a library, and they, with the help of Unicron taking over Rodimus' body, put the rest of the pieces together. With one final punch, Rodimus kills Sludge. Just like that.
While the scene, and the following one where the surviving Dinobots morn Sludge, work really well emotionally (as this series goes), Snarl's voice is not good, and it doesn't make a lot of sense. The Dinobots have been running circles around Windblade, Perceptor, and Victorion for four episodes now. Granted that was with Grimlock, but they were still huge and could hold their own against enemies. In this scene they just lay down and take it. Rodimus killing Sludge also brings some questions, some of which might have even been intentional: Surely Rodimus can't be THAT strong. I understand that this show is trying to establish him as unstoppable force to really be reckoned with, but at the same time even Unicron couldn't have made him this strong and unstoppable.
ONE PPPPPUNCH!!!
Speaking of Windblade, Perceptor, and Victorion, we catch up with them in the next scene. They, along with Megatron, Grimlock, and Optimus Primal, are now in a frozen tundra biome, where the clue from the cave in the last episode is leading them.
Now, I'm not even going to attempt to explain the next minute and a half, but just know it is some of the wierdest, worst psuedo science I have ever heard in any form of media. Something about parallel lines that somehow meet, and infinity, and the center of the center (?????) and stuff like that.
I have, just, NO clue.
Anyway, somehow they find their way to the Sanctorum, and they're all taken aback by the temple inside. It is, admittedly, a very nice set piece. Megatron runs in to use of the computer systems, and Perceptor butts in.
"What will you do?" "Oh, the exact same thing as you, but sCiENtiFiCALly!"
Percy finds a page relating to the Requiem Blaster and reads it out loud. It explains that the Requiem Blaster was hidden because Megatronus killed Solus with it. The other Primes entrusted a guardian to protect it, which at some point through the generations became Optimus Primal. Why Primal wasn't able to tell them at least some of this information, the world will never know.
As everyone's distracted by the shiny computer, Rodimus and Overlord catch up, and somehow silently bring Victorion to her knees. Rodimus chokes her, (even though robots don't breathe, but you can find an in depth analysis of this problem thanks to our Energon Pub patrons;) ) eventually tearing her head off, with her body falling to the ground. As this series goes, this is an extremely dark death. It's not played up as dramatically as I think it could have been, but it is an interesting turn. With that, the episode ends.
Aw, sick! This ancient archive of the Primes has Go90!
This episode was admittedly boring, but things at least happened, which is an achievement unto itself. The darker parts were interesting, and cement Overlord and Rodimus as at least interesting to watch. I'm liking the treasure hunt/tourist's guide to the ancient temples of Cybertron story line to be completely honest, I just wish it had moved a bit faster a bit earlier. This episode wasn't nearly as laugh (or scream) out loud bad as some of the past ones have, which is progress. We really have been stuck in the swamp this entire time, so at the very least we can be happy that not only has the story found it's footing, we were also treated to several changes of scenery, which is really all I could ask for. Just please. PLEASE. Don't go back to that damn swamp.
(I leave you with an excellent GIF from our newsie Qwan. See you next week!
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Re: Try Not to Lose Your Head: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 5 REVIEW (1962381)
Posted by Qwan on May 31st, 2018 @ 1:57am CDT
Posted by Qwan on May 31st, 2018 @ 1:57am CDT
Yayy, it's here! I'm always looking forward to your reviews from the moment I watch the episodes, and as usual, you're pretty much on the same wavelength as I am but so much better at expressing it than me 
Seriously, what even was with that "parallel lines meet at infinity" stuff. Like I'd honestly be alright if it just meant the vanishing point, which is absolutely a thing, but no it's something about "these lines aren't actually quite parallel" or some such absurd contrivance, fantastic.
Seriously, what even was with that "parallel lines meet at infinity" stuff. Like I'd honestly be alright if it just meant the vanishing point, which is absolutely a thing, but no it's something about "these lines aren't actually quite parallel" or some such absurd contrivance, fantastic.
Re: Try Not to Lose Your Head: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 5 REVIEW (1962385)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 31st, 2018 @ 2:26am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 31st, 2018 @ 2:26am CDT
Nice review, Bronzewolf. Just keep telling yourself, half way through 
Re: Try Not to Lose Your Head: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 5 REVIEW (1962418)
Posted by kurthy on May 31st, 2018 @ 7:26am CDT
It's a misconception from non-Euclidean geometry where the parallel postulate or other postulates are rejected. When you start working in elliptic geometry, things get weird. Like two perpendicular lines meeting at an absolute pole, which would kind of be a point at infinity (the misconception).
That said, my only exposure to these episodes (beyond the first 3 episodes of CW) is these reviews, which are awesome. Thanks, bronzewolf for going through the pain of watching these!
Posted by kurthy on May 31st, 2018 @ 7:26am CDT
Qwan wrote:Yayy, it's here! I'm always looking forward to your reviews from the moment I watch the episodes, and as usual, you're pretty much on the same wavelength as I am but so much better at expressing it than me
Seriously, what even was with that "parallel lines meet at infinity" stuff. Like I'd honestly be alright if it just meant the vanishing point, which is absolutely a thing, but no it's something about "these lines aren't actually quite parallel" or some such absurd contrivance, fantastic.
It's a misconception from non-Euclidean geometry where the parallel postulate or other postulates are rejected. When you start working in elliptic geometry, things get weird. Like two perpendicular lines meeting at an absolute pole, which would kind of be a point at infinity (the misconception).
That said, my only exposure to these episodes (beyond the first 3 episodes of CW) is these reviews, which are awesome. Thanks, bronzewolf for going through the pain of watching these!
Re: Try Not to Lose Your Head: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 5 REVIEW (1962421)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 31st, 2018 @ 8:31am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 31st, 2018 @ 8:31am CDT
To be fair, Menasor did tell them that Megatron was heading to the Primal Swamp back when they killed him. Overlord an Rodimus are after Megatron, so why wouldn't they go to the place where they were told Megatron was?Bronzewolf wrote:Anyway, speaking of the Dinobots, they just happen to run into Rodimus and Overlord, because everybody's in this damn swamp apparently.
He did one-shot KO Computron and multi-shot KO Devastator earlier.Bronzewolf wrote:Rodimus killing Sludge also brings some questions, some of which might have even been intentional: Surely Rodimus can't be THAT strong. I understand that this show is trying to establish him as unstoppable force to really be reckoned with, but at the same time even Unicron couldn't have made him this strong and unstoppable.
The point at infinity is actually a real-world math term in projective geometry. When one is viewing two parallel lines running towards the horizon, perspective creates the illusion of the two lines converging together at a single point far off in the distance (e.g. - the point at infinity), when they really aren't and it's instead just a trick of the eye.Bronzewolf wrote:Now, I'm not even going to attempt to explain the next minute and a half, but just know it is some of the wierdest, worst psuedo science I have ever heard in any form of media. Something about parallel lines that somehow meet, and infinity, and the center of the center (?????) and stuff like that.
Re: Try Not to Lose Your Head: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 5 REVIEW (1962424)
Posted by kurthy on May 31st, 2018 @ 8:52am CDT
Gotta teach your autocorrect the term projective. I get very disappointed when autocorrect corrects real words to a different word.
Posted by kurthy on May 31st, 2018 @ 8:52am CDT
Sabrblade wrote: The point at infinity is actually a real-world math term in protective geometry. When one is viewing two parallel lines running towards the horizon, perspective creates the illusion of the two lines converging together at a single point far off in the distance (e.g. - the point at infinity), when they really aren't and it's instead just a trick of the eye.
Gotta teach your autocorrect the term projective. I get very disappointed when autocorrect corrects real words to a different word.
Re: Try Not to Lose Your Head: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 5 REVIEW (1962425)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 31st, 2018 @ 8:54am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 31st, 2018 @ 8:54am CDT
It's corrected now (though, it still doesn't recognize "pixelated", which I tried to use last night, but I digress).kurthy wrote:Sabrblade wrote: The point at infinity is actually a real-world math term in projective geometry. When one is viewing two parallel lines running towards the horizon, perspective creates the illusion of the two lines converging together at a single point far off in the distance (e.g. - the point at infinity), when they really aren't and it's instead just a trick of the eye.
Gotta teach your autocorrect the term projective. I get very disappointed when autocorrect corrects real words to a different word.
Re: Try Not to Lose Your Head: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 5 REVIEW (1962442)
Posted by DarkEnergon on May 31st, 2018 @ 11:05am CDT
Posted by DarkEnergon on May 31st, 2018 @ 11:05am CDT
I too at least got more invested in the story. I'm eager to see Megatron vs Overlord now that they've pretty well established Overlord as a badass, and I liked that Overlord just went at Megatron and didn't monologue or anything. Not sure who can handle Mr. Point-and-Kill Rodimus, though. I guess the Requiem Blaster.
I like that this is kind of a throwaway series, and so bots can just die. Would like it to maybe be *just* a little harder for them to die
I really don't like the idea that when one critical portion of a combiner dies, all the individual bots die. Really felt like the rest of Victorion could have uncombined and GTFO.
I like that this is kind of a throwaway series, and so bots can just die. Would like it to maybe be *just* a little harder for them to die
I really don't like the idea that when one critical portion of a combiner dies, all the individual bots die. Really felt like the rest of Victorion could have uncombined and GTFO.
Re: Try Not to Lose Your Head: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 5 REVIEW (1962448)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 31st, 2018 @ 11:29am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 31st, 2018 @ 11:29am CDT
I think rodimus will be cleansed and that overlord will fall before the might of optimal optimus.
Re: Try Not to Lose Your Head: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 5 REVIEW (1962451)
Posted by Bronzewolf on May 31st, 2018 @ 11:58am CDT
No, I know that through art class. Everytime you draw a road or something that head toward the horizon, make them slowly converge. That's not what this is. They say that these lines actually, "microscopically", move toward each other, totally missing the point of the concept you're describing. It's an optical illusion, so they should never be able to find the converging point.
Posted by Bronzewolf on May 31st, 2018 @ 11:58am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:The point at infinity is actually a real-world math term in projective geometry. When one is viewing two parallel lines running towards the horizon, perspective creates the illusion of the two lines converging together at a single point far off in the distance (e.g. - the point at infinity), when they really aren't and it's instead just a trick of the eye.Bronzewolf wrote:Now, I'm not even going to attempt to explain the next minute and a half, but just know it is some of the wierdest, worst psuedo science I have ever heard in any form of media. Something about parallel lines that somehow meet, and infinity, and the center of the center (?????) and stuff like that.
No, I know that through art class. Everytime you draw a road or something that head toward the horizon, make them slowly converge. That's not what this is. They say that these lines actually, "microscopically", move toward each other, totally missing the point of the concept you're describing. It's an optical illusion, so they should never be able to find the converging point.
Re: Try Not to Lose Your Head: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 5 REVIEW (1962464)
Posted by o.supreme on May 31st, 2018 @ 12:56pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on May 31st, 2018 @ 12:56pm CDT
I know previously in IDW Megatorn and Overlord had a brief skirmish, I cant recall how that turned out. Admittedly though, A fantasy battle have wanted to see for a long time would have been the original animated series Megatron (or Galvatron), battle Overlord from Masterforce, preferably after Devil Z gave him his own life and he was no longer just a transector of Giga and Mega. I believe just being piloted by the humans, Megatorn could have easily won, but as his own being, Overlord would be a tough match for Megatron. Considering this iteration of Overlord is um....Cybertron Mudflap on steroids (??)...and the story is completely nonsensical, I have no idea what to expect... 
Re: Try Not to Lose Your Head: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 5 REVIEW (1962470)
Posted by Sabrblade on May 31st, 2018 @ 1:21pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on May 31st, 2018 @ 1:21pm CDT
Giga and Mega didn't "pilot" Overlord, they were him in mind, body, and soul. Godmasters were some of the most powerful super-robot beings in the universe, Transformer or otherwise, thanks to their ability to utilize the full potential of the three main kinds of Chōkon Power. This is why the human-Transformer Ginrai was able to beat the normal-Transformer Sixknight when he was allowed to no longer hold back from fighting him (after Minerva was no longer held hostage by the Decepticons), while the normal-Transformer Ginrai was killed so brutally by the likewise normal-Transformer Liokaiser due to his having lost all of his Jinchōkon when he became a normal TF. The human element made Godmasters more powerful.o.supreme wrote:I believe just being piloted by the humans, Megatorn could have easily won, but as his own being, Overlord would be a tough match for Megatron.
Re: Try Not to Lose Your Head: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 5 REVIEW (1962472)
Posted by Galactic Prime on May 31st, 2018 @ 1:35pm CDT
I'm sorry I didn't realize stating a fact was intentionally flaming, my apologizes
Posted by Galactic Prime on May 31st, 2018 @ 1:35pm CDT
Bronzewolf wrote:Galactic Prime wrote:Skritz wrote:Galactic Prime wrote:This entire show has been a colossal failure from beginning to end, and that includes Combiner Wars and Titan's Return.
Even the crap that was Beast Machines, RiD 2000, and the Unicron Trilogy are bitter than this garbage. It literally has ZERO redeeming qualities. None.
The animation is crap, the story is crap, the voice acting is terrible, the dialogue is atrocious.
Don't even dare compare Beast Machine to this mess: sure it was a stupid, preachy and nonsensical show. Sure it ruined the character of just about every Beast Wars survivor safe maybe Cheetor and sure the design were atrociously weird but at least, dear **** Primus, it at least tried to be something.
You're right, I should have compared it to the filth that was Beast Wars
Intentionally flaming comments won't be tolerated. Thank you.
I'm sorry I didn't realize stating a fact was intentionally flaming, my apologizes
Re: Try Not to Lose Your Head: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 5 REVIEW (1962473)
Posted by Flashwave on May 31st, 2018 @ 1:37pm CDT
The problem with the Antarctic and Fire Extinguishers isn’t cold, it’s Moisture. Water is not a nice thing to machines.
Posted by Flashwave on May 31st, 2018 @ 1:37pm CDT
Coptur wrote:Sabrblade wrote:...Who can also survive in the oxygen-less vacuum of space.Coptur wrote:Choking in transformers has always been a thing.
They aren't just robots they are living beings.
That's right they can but they don't breath and don't require oxygen
you saying that makes me laugh about the 2007 movie.
Megatron can fly through the cold of space but freezes in antartica (& people using fire extinguishers)
The problem with the Antarctic and Fire Extinguishers isn’t cold, it’s Moisture. Water is not a nice thing to machines.
Re: Try Not to Lose Your Head: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 5 REVIEW (1962514)
Posted by Bronzewolf on May 31st, 2018 @ 4:53pm CDT
*sigh* I can't say I expected anything less
Please, I don't want to call Burn, but if you continue, I will.
Posted by Bronzewolf on May 31st, 2018 @ 4:53pm CDT
Galactic Prime wrote:Bronzewolf wrote:Galactic Prime wrote:Skritz wrote:Galactic Prime wrote:This entire show has been a colossal failure from beginning to end, and that includes Combiner Wars and Titan's Return.
Even the crap that was Beast Machines, RiD 2000, and the Unicron Trilogy are bitter than this garbage. It literally has ZERO redeeming qualities. None.
The animation is crap, the story is crap, the voice acting is terrible, the dialogue is atrocious.
Don't even dare compare Beast Machine to this mess: sure it was a stupid, preachy and nonsensical show. Sure it ruined the character of just about every Beast Wars survivor safe maybe Cheetor and sure the design were atrociously weird but at least, dear **** Primus, it at least tried to be something.
You're right, I should have compared it to the filth that was Beast Wars
Intentionally flaming comments won't be tolerated. Thank you.
I'm sorry I didn't realize stating a fact was intentionally flaming, my apologizes
*sigh* I can't say I expected anything less
Please, I don't want to call Burn, but if you continue, I will.
Re: Try Not to Lose Your Head: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 5 REVIEW (1962517)
Posted by Galactic Prime on May 31st, 2018 @ 5:21pm CDT
True and it's also been proven that space isn't so much cold as it is a lack of heat.
Posted by Galactic Prime on May 31st, 2018 @ 5:21pm CDT
Flashwave wrote:Coptur wrote:Sabrblade wrote:...Who can also survive in the oxygen-less vacuum of space.Coptur wrote:Choking in transformers has always been a thing.
They aren't just robots they are living beings.
That's right they can but they don't breath and don't require oxygen
you saying that makes me laugh about the 2007 movie.
Megatron can fly through the cold of space but freezes in antartica (& people using fire extinguishers)
The problem with the Antarctic and Fire Extinguishers isn’t cold, it’s Moisture. Water is not a nice thing to machines.
True and it's also been proven that space isn't so much cold as it is a lack of heat.
Re: Try Not to Lose Your Head: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 5 REVIEW (1962518)
Posted by Burn on May 31st, 2018 @ 5:37pm CDT
Aside from pointing out that opinion =/= fact, there is nothing in this post that goes against the rules of the forums.
Please stop reporting it.
Posted by Burn on May 31st, 2018 @ 5:37pm CDT
Galactic Prime wrote:Bronzewolf wrote:Galactic Prime wrote:Skritz wrote:Galactic Prime wrote:This entire show has been a colossal failure from beginning to end, and that includes Combiner Wars and Titan's Return.
Even the crap that was Beast Machines, RiD 2000, and the Unicron Trilogy are bitter than this garbage. It literally has ZERO redeeming qualities. None.
The animation is crap, the story is crap, the voice acting is terrible, the dialogue is atrocious.
Don't even dare compare Beast Machine to this mess: sure it was a stupid, preachy and nonsensical show. Sure it ruined the character of just about every Beast Wars survivor safe maybe Cheetor and sure the design were atrociously weird but at least, dear **** Primus, it at least tried to be something.
You're right, I should have compared it to the filth that was Beast Wars
Intentionally flaming comments won't be tolerated. Thank you.
I'm sorry I didn't realize stating a fact was intentionally flaming, my apologizes
Aside from pointing out that opinion =/= fact, there is nothing in this post that goes against the rules of the forums.
Please stop reporting it.
Re: Try Not to Lose Your Head: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 5 REVIEW (1962521)
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 31st, 2018 @ 6:16pm CDT
Indeed, in fact we can say that it's frozen water were the problem lies as none of the cons show any trouble travelling in liquid water when they dive down to revive megs in rotf.
Posted by ZeroWolf on May 31st, 2018 @ 6:16pm CDT
Galactic Prime wrote:Flashwave wrote:Coptur wrote:Sabrblade wrote:...Who can also survive in the oxygen-less vacuum of space.Coptur wrote:Choking in transformers has always been a thing.
They aren't just robots they are living beings.
That's right they can but they don't breath and don't require oxygen
you saying that makes me laugh about the 2007 movie.
Megatron can fly through the cold of space but freezes in antartica (& people using fire extinguishers)
The problem with the Antarctic and Fire Extinguishers isn’t cold, it’s Moisture. Water is not a nice thing to machines.
True and it's also been proven that space isn't so much cold as it is a lack of heat.
Indeed, in fact we can say that it's frozen water were the problem lies as none of the cons show any trouble travelling in liquid water when they dive down to revive megs in rotf.
Re: Try Not to Lose Your Head: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 5 REVIEW (1962647)
Posted by Whifflefire on June 1st, 2018 @ 9:34pm CDT
Posted by Whifflefire on June 1st, 2018 @ 9:34pm CDT
I always assumed that any instance of 'choking' was actually attempted decapitation. And somebody mentioned earlier that clenching the neck would also restrict nutrient (energon) flow as well as sensory information from the brain module. Transformers can inhabit atmosphere-less conditions of space because they are solid. Presumably, their 'veins' are insulated to prevent the liquid energon from boiling (Space is not cold, the vacuum effect separates molecules so much temperature is not really possible in space as we think of it). Damage to the neck, a relatively small joint, may cause exposure of the energon to the vacuum. I would imagine there is an automatic repair response to this in a cybertronian's body, but there could still be energon lost. Due to the neck's proximity to the head, the boiling energon would dissipate through the mouth, eliciting a 'coughing' response.
Even though they don't need to breathe, a transformer still has a mouth for consumption and communication, functions that are closely tied to vital organs, and probably the only natural access point to one's inner components (why a head usually does not convert itself, but is stored away in alternate mode). There would have to be filters to clear out foreign material. Water has been depicted on Cybertron in several continuities, or at the very least would have had come into cybertronian contact before, so it is likely that it would be adapted for. (Why Perceptor can be drowned is because the act was too quick for his systems to react, and in a panic he was unable to activate them because the liquid had already entered his veins, and energy was being diverted to removing it via ejection - his coughing after he resurfaced.)
As for a 'bot being able to withstand the pressure of seven or so miles worth of water pressure to reach the bottom of the Laurentian Abyss, Transformers' metal (Is "Transformium" a recognized term?) is much denser and stronger than most (all?) metals on Earth.
Plausible?
Even though they don't need to breathe, a transformer still has a mouth for consumption and communication, functions that are closely tied to vital organs, and probably the only natural access point to one's inner components (why a head usually does not convert itself, but is stored away in alternate mode). There would have to be filters to clear out foreign material. Water has been depicted on Cybertron in several continuities, or at the very least would have had come into cybertronian contact before, so it is likely that it would be adapted for. (Why Perceptor can be drowned is because the act was too quick for his systems to react, and in a panic he was unable to activate them because the liquid had already entered his veins, and energy was being diverted to removing it via ejection - his coughing after he resurfaced.)
As for a 'bot being able to withstand the pressure of seven or so miles worth of water pressure to reach the bottom of the Laurentian Abyss, Transformers' metal (Is "Transformium" a recognized term?) is much denser and stronger than most (all?) metals on Earth.
Plausible?
Re: Try Not to Lose Your Head: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 5 REVIEW (1962656)
Posted by Qwan on June 1st, 2018 @ 11:01pm CDT
This is so incredibly well thought-out! I like your reasoning, and it makes really good sense out of something that was obviously never created to have any logic behind it
That said, it also doesn't stop the idea of choking robots from being hilarious to me.
Posted by Qwan on June 1st, 2018 @ 11:01pm CDT
Whifflefire wrote:I always assumed that any instance of 'choking' was actually attempted decapitation. And somebody mentioned earlier that clenching the neck would also restrict nutrient (energon) flow as well as sensory information from the brain module. Transformers can inhabit atmosphere-less conditions of space because they are solid. Presumably, their 'veins' are insulated to prevent the liquid energon from boiling (Space is not cold, the vacuum effect separates molecules so much temperature is not really possible in space as we think of it). Damage to the neck, a relatively small joint, may cause exposure of the energon to the vacuum. I would imagine there is an automatic repair response to this in a cybertronian's body, but there could still be energon lost. Due to the neck's proximity to the head, the boiling energon would dissipate through the mouth, eliciting a 'coughing' response.
Even though they don't need to breathe, a transformer still has a mouth for consumption and communication, functions that are closely tied to vital organs, and probably the only natural access point to one's inner components (why a head usually does not convert itself, but is stored away in alternate mode). There would have to be filters to clear out foreign material. Water has been depicted on Cybertron in several continuities, or at the very least would have had come into cybertronian contact before, so it is likely that it would be adapted for. (Why Perceptor can be drowned is because the act was too quick for his systems to react, and in a panic he was unable to activate them because the liquid had already entered his veins, and energy was being diverted to removing it via ejection - his coughing after he resurfaced.)
As for a 'bot being able to withstand the pressure of seven or so miles worth of water pressure to reach the bottom of the Laurentian Abyss, Transformers' metal (Is "Transformium" a recognized term?) is much denser and stronger than most (all?) metals on Earth.
Plausible?
This is so incredibly well thought-out! I like your reasoning, and it makes really good sense out of something that was obviously never created to have any logic behind it
That said, it also doesn't stop the idea of choking robots from being hilarious to me.
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Posted by william-james88 on June 1st, 2018 @ 11:04pm CDT
Posted by william-james88 on June 1st, 2018 @ 11:04pm CDT
But the choking we were referring to from the begining was perceptor choking because he was being submerged, which is very different to what we are all talking about.
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Posted by Sabrblade on June 1st, 2018 @ 11:07pm CDT
'Tis also a rather fascinating article, crafted by TF uber-fan Chris McFeely.
Posted by Sabrblade on June 1st, 2018 @ 11:07pm CDT
The Wiki settled on "living metal" as a catch-all term (and I discovered awhile ago that Simon Furman himself actually--and coincidentally--once used this term in at least one of his stories).Whifflefire wrote:Transformers' metal (Is "Transformium" a recognized term?)
'Tis also a rather fascinating article, crafted by TF uber-fan Chris McFeely.
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Posted by Qwan on June 1st, 2018 @ 11:10pm CDT
Millions of years before the dawn of history
Lived an ancient race of robots, the Transformers
No-one knows who they were, or, what they were doing
But their legacy remains, hewn into the living metal
of Cybertron."
Posted by Qwan on June 1st, 2018 @ 11:10pm CDT
That's what I like about this theory! It kind of accounts for both kinds of choking - the Roddy-Cron-headlocking-Sludge kind, where information/energon is being inhibited; and the Perceptor-getting-dunked kind, where a foreign liquid is contaminating/inhibiting the energon or information flow since valves or whatever didn't close in time. (I'd think of that like a human not having a chance to breathe before having their head submerged, making it much more likely for them to choke straight away.)william-james88 wrote:But the choking we were referring to from the begining was perceptor choking because he was being submerged, which is very different to what we are all talking about.
"In ancient times,Sabrblade wrote:The Wiki settled on "living metal" as a catch-all term (and I discovered awhile ago that Simon Furman himself actually--and coincidentally--once used this term in at least one of his stories).Whifflefire wrote:Transformers' metal (Is "Transformium" a recognized term?)
'Tis also a rather fascinating article, crafted by TF uber-fan Chris McFeely.
Millions of years before the dawn of history
Lived an ancient race of robots, the Transformers
No-one knows who they were, or, what they were doing
But their legacy remains, hewn into the living metal
of Cybertron."
Re: Try Not to Lose Your Head: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 5 REVIEW (1962871)
Posted by Whifflefire on June 3rd, 2018 @ 4:43pm CDT
Thanks, I'm glad you appreciate it! Next is to figure out how Transformers can fart.
Posted by Whifflefire on June 3rd, 2018 @ 4:43pm CDT
Qwan wrote:This is so incredibly well thought-out! I like your reasoning, and it makes really good sense out of something that was obviously never created to have any logic behind it
Thanks, I'm glad you appreciate it! Next is to figure out how Transformers can fart.
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Posted by ZeroWolf on June 3rd, 2018 @ 4:52pm CDT
That's an easy one, it's a by product of their energy conversion process, and as such it's vented out. Some of them can choose to weaponise it.
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 3rd, 2018 @ 4:52pm CDT
Whifflefire wrote:Qwan wrote:This is so incredibly well thought-out! I like your reasoning, and it makes really good sense out of something that was obviously never created to have any logic behind it
Thanks, I'm glad you appreciate it! Next is to figure out how Transformers can fart.
That's an easy one, it's a by product of their energy conversion process, and as such it's vented out. Some of them can choose to weaponise it.
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Posted by Sabrblade on June 4th, 2018 @ 11:08pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 4th, 2018 @ 11:08pm CDT
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Posted by Sabrblade on June 4th, 2018 @ 11:41pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 4th, 2018 @ 11:41pm CDT
Boy, opening on such an awkward angle of Grimlock in pain, and holding on it for an uncomfortable amount of time, is not a good start for this episode.
I just now realized that Rodimus Cron has a purple Autobot symbol instead of a Decepticon symbol.
And his guns also look to be wholly original instead of based on any toy's guns, and convert from his arms directly a la TF: Prime's cast with their built-in weaponry.
And if the Grimlock thing from before wasn't awkward enough, Windblade wrapping her legs around Rodimus's head area brings no comfort either.
Overlord wants revenge against Megatron for... "Solon"? Not this Solon, right? Oh, wait, nevermind. He said "so long". The Closed Captions just typo'd again.
Okay, Megatron shooting Overlord in the face at near point blank range with his Fusion Cannon got a legit positive reaction from me.
Nos it's Megatron's turn to say the D-word this time.
Grimlock calling Overlord "much worse" than Megatron is incorrectly written as "almost worse" by the closed captions.
How in the world are Overlord and Rodimus just letting Windblade and Optimus have their conversation on the stairs for as long as they do when he's got the Requiem Blaster in his hands and that blaster is the very thing that the two bad guys are fighting to take from the good guys?
And Perceptor is allowed to keep doing his thing at the console as well. Honestly, Overlord and Rodimus are some of the most absent-minded villains ever.
Okay, of all the Closed Caption typos, this one takes the cake. When Overlord speaks to Grimlock of "the Cybertron to come", that very phrase is written instead as "the Sov-tron-con". I just... What?
And now we're expected to believe that Megatron used to be Galvatron (or "Galvitron" according to the captions) at some point prior, like this is all supposed to take place after the G1 cartoon or something. Yeah right.
Oh, brother. Is Rodimus now Speedy Gonzalez or something? He just used some kind of super speed to get across the room and grab Windblade in an instant.
Wait a sec! It just hit me. Why does Rodimus even need those converting arm guns when he already has his arm-mounted exhaust blasters? Why'd they go to the trouble of modeling all new CG weaponry on top of preexisting weaponry that was already there on his animation model?
Primal scales the ceiling like a real monkey... except there's nothing for him to actually GRAB onto up there, so he ends up looking more like Spider-Man. Also, I guess he can't fly in this show.
I just now realized that Rodimus Cron has a purple Autobot symbol instead of a Decepticon symbol.
And his guns also look to be wholly original instead of based on any toy's guns, and convert from his arms directly a la TF: Prime's cast with their built-in weaponry.
And if the Grimlock thing from before wasn't awkward enough, Windblade wrapping her legs around Rodimus's head area brings no comfort either.
Overlord wants revenge against Megatron for... "Solon"? Not this Solon, right? Oh, wait, nevermind. He said "so long". The Closed Captions just typo'd again.
Okay, Megatron shooting Overlord in the face at near point blank range with his Fusion Cannon got a legit positive reaction from me.
Nos it's Megatron's turn to say the D-word this time.
Grimlock calling Overlord "much worse" than Megatron is incorrectly written as "almost worse" by the closed captions.
How in the world are Overlord and Rodimus just letting Windblade and Optimus have their conversation on the stairs for as long as they do when he's got the Requiem Blaster in his hands and that blaster is the very thing that the two bad guys are fighting to take from the good guys?
And Perceptor is allowed to keep doing his thing at the console as well. Honestly, Overlord and Rodimus are some of the most absent-minded villains ever.
Okay, of all the Closed Caption typos, this one takes the cake. When Overlord speaks to Grimlock of "the Cybertron to come", that very phrase is written instead as "the Sov-tron-con". I just... What?
And now we're expected to believe that Megatron used to be Galvatron (or "Galvitron" according to the captions) at some point prior, like this is all supposed to take place after the G1 cartoon or something. Yeah right.
Oh, brother. Is Rodimus now Speedy Gonzalez or something? He just used some kind of super speed to get across the room and grab Windblade in an instant.
Wait a sec! It just hit me. Why does Rodimus even need those converting arm guns when he already has his arm-mounted exhaust blasters? Why'd they go to the trouble of modeling all new CG weaponry on top of preexisting weaponry that was already there on his animation model?
Primal scales the ceiling like a real monkey... except there's nothing for him to actually GRAB onto up there, so he ends up looking more like Spider-Man. Also, I guess he can't fly in this show.
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Posted by Qwan on June 5th, 2018 @ 12:21am CDT
Posted by Qwan on June 5th, 2018 @ 12:21am CDT
It's Tuesday again, Siebertronians, and you all know what that means! The next episode of Machinima's Power of the Primes animated series has been uploaded and is ready to be viewed by your very own eyes. The synopsis for this episode hypes up the battle between Overlord and Megatron, as well as indicating that Optimus Primal might do something useful.
The episode can be watched on Go90 here, or for international viewers is available on the Prime Wars Tumblr here. After you've watched the episode, share your thoughts with other Seibertronians in the Energon Pub Forums, and stay tuned for our review of the episode coming soon too!
The episode can be watched on Go90 here, or for international viewers is available on the Prime Wars Tumblr here. After you've watched the episode, share your thoughts with other Seibertronians in the Energon Pub Forums, and stay tuned for our review of the episode coming soon too!
Overlord and Rodimus Cron finally confront our heroes, while Optimus Primal makes a tough decision that changes the course of the battle. Alas, having found Megatron, Overlord is determined to get his revenge.
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Posted by WreckerJack on June 5th, 2018 @ 1:30am CDT
Posted by WreckerJack on June 5th, 2018 @ 1:30am CDT
I guess everyone is trying to watch it because it keeps stopping loading for me. Keep having to refresh.
Edit- Okay I got it to work finally. That was some pretty crazy stuff. Still grumpy about last weeks episode so my expectations are kinda low I guess. IDK. Did enjoy those stealthy moves by Primal. I won't say too much.
Speaking of last episode. I'm also kinda wondering if Victorion will come back somehow because Pyra Magna's actual head is in her chest when she is in combined mode. At least in her toy form - which is pretty darn show accurate. Also she didn't turn grey like the (most) the other TFs that died PotP did. In the IDW comics Transformers do survive being beheaded so long as their sparks are intact so the same could be possible. Though considering that characters I like seem to die I don't have high hopes. Victorion, we hardly knew you, though we wanted to so please don't be dead for real!
Okay, it's time for me to go to bed. Zzz!
Edit- Okay I got it to work finally. That was some pretty crazy stuff. Still grumpy about last weeks episode so my expectations are kinda low I guess. IDK. Did enjoy those stealthy moves by Primal. I won't say too much.
Speaking of last episode. I'm also kinda wondering if Victorion will come back somehow because Pyra Magna's actual head is in her chest when she is in combined mode. At least in her toy form - which is pretty darn show accurate. Also she didn't turn grey like the (most) the other TFs that died PotP did. In the IDW comics Transformers do survive being beheaded so long as their sparks are intact so the same could be possible. Though considering that characters I like seem to die I don't have high hopes. Victorion, we hardly knew you, though we wanted to so please don't be dead for real!
Okay, it's time for me to go to bed. Zzz!
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Posted by Graviton on June 5th, 2018 @ 9:39am CDT
She Gone
Posted by Graviton on June 5th, 2018 @ 9:39am CDT
WreckerJack wrote:I guess everyone is trying to watch it because it keeps stopping loading for me. Keep having to refresh.
Edit- Okay I got it to work finally. That was some pretty crazy stuff. Still grumpy about last weeks episode so my expectations are kinda low I guess. IDK. Did enjoy those stealthy moves by Primal. I won't say too much.
Speaking of last episode. I'm also kinda wondering if Victorion will come back somehow because Pyra Magna's actual head is in her chest when she is in combined mode. At least in her toy form - which is pretty darn show accurate. Also she didn't turn grey like the (most) the other TFs that died PotP did. In the IDW comics Transformers do survive being beheaded so long as their sparks are intact so the same could be possible. Though considering that characters I like seem to die I don't have high hopes. Victorion, we hardly knew you, though we wanted to so please don't be dead for real!
Okay, it's time for me to go to bed. Zzz!
She Gone
Re: Try Not to Lose Your Head: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 5 REVIEW (1963224)
Posted by Yweggo on June 5th, 2018 @ 1:58pm CDT
Posted by Yweggo on June 5th, 2018 @ 1:58pm CDT
I don't think the animators realise that a guy turns into a TREX(or any beast mode for that matter) isn't going to fight the same way as he would in robot mode...
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Posted by o.supreme on June 5th, 2018 @ 3:05pm CDT
Posted by o.supreme on June 5th, 2018 @ 3:05pm CDT
wow... this is awful. You know its bad, even if they had the guts (which they wouldn't do) to kill off the character I cant stand, Windblade, even that wouldn't bring any slight satisfaction.
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Posted by o.supreme on June 5th, 2018 @ 3:14pm CDT
Nucleon, its a heck of a drug...
. Of course then they'd have to explain how they got their alt modes back after giving them up... 
Yeah I was blown away by that myself. Some real Playstation One graphic limitations logic went into that.
Speaking of PS One, I just had an epiphany. watching PotP is kind of like playing this:
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Beast_Wars:_Tra ... video_game)
you know its based on something much better, and you wonder how they could so monumentally screw it all up.
Posted by o.supreme on June 5th, 2018 @ 3:14pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:And now we're expected to believe that Megatron used to be Galvatron (or "Galvitron" according to the captions) at some point prior, like this is all supposed to take place after the G1 cartoon or something. Yeah right.
Nucleon, its a heck of a drug...
. Of course then they'd have to explain how they got their alt modes back after giving them up... Primal scales the ceiling like a real monkey... except there's nothing for him to actually GRAB onto up there, so he ends up looking more like Spider-Man. Also, I guess he can't fly in this show.
Yeah I was blown away by that myself. Some real Playstation One graphic limitations logic went into that.
Speaking of PS One, I just had an epiphany. watching PotP is kind of like playing this:
https://tfwiki.net/wiki/Beast_Wars:_Tra ... video_game)
you know its based on something much better, and you wonder how they could so monumentally screw it all up.
Re: Try Not to Lose Your Head: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 5 REVIEW (1963247)
Posted by Burn on June 5th, 2018 @ 4:06pm CDT
Posted by Burn on June 5th, 2018 @ 4:06pm CDT
All things considered, this was probably the best episode of POTP so far.
It still had flaws, lots of flaws. Timing issues, boring dialogues, actions that make no sense. Basically your standard Prime Wars trilogy problems.
It still had flaws, lots of flaws. Timing issues, boring dialogues, actions that make no sense. Basically your standard Prime Wars trilogy problems.
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Posted by Bronzewolf on June 7th, 2018 @ 2:34am CDT
Posted by Bronzewolf on June 7th, 2018 @ 2:34am CDT
It's time again for another episode of Machinima's Power of the Primes cartoon. We're now at episode 6 and things are finally starting to take off. Overlord and Rodimus Cron have found the main cast in the library of the Primes, and the fight over the Requiem Blaster has begun. (For a more in depth look at episode 5, please check out my review of it from last week!) Without further ado, let's jump into episode 6:
...to the sweet, sweet release of death.
As I mentioned above, the two units of Megatronus are in a heated battle with Megatron, Windblade, Optimus Primal, Grimlock, and Perceptor. The dinobot gets tossed into a computer, the monkey gets crushed by some falling debris, courtesy of Rodimus, and Windblade distracts him by...jumping on his shoulders. Overlord, meanwhile, is tackling Megatron, electrocuting him. Perceptor notices the Requiem Blaster has landed at his feet, and threatens Overlord with it. Overlord laughs, but it gives Megatron and shoot him.
So let me get this straight. Megatron shoots Overlord, from two feet away, point blank, IN THE FACE, and Overlord gets up without any damage? ... These reviews are becoming more and more taxing to write with each episode.
To be fair to the show, it does include some cool scenes in this episode. Some neat action, and cool Transformation shots. For instance, here we actually see Overlord separate into his jet and tank, and Megs transforms into his tank mode in response. It's actually really fun and enjoyable to watch. The fun is cut short, however, when Rodimus just straight up picks Megatron up and throws him across the room. Overlord recombines, and Windblade starts shooting at him. Rodimus starts beating up Megatron, in a shot that lasts far too long and becomes really awkward.
Tonight on Battlebots!
Grimlock gets back up, as Overlord creates a force field, stops a bunch of Windblade's shots, and Hadouken's them back up toward her, which is apparently something he can do now. One of the shots hits Grimlock in the chest, though I'm not sure how. I'm assuming they tried to make it look like it ricocheted off of Windblade, but it does not come across. Megatron is still getting beat senseless, as Grimlock recovers from his hit.
Jesus. It's like a Royal Rumble in here.
As Grimlock attacks Overlord with his weak Dino mode arms instead of, y'know, anything else, Optimus Primal finally gets up again to survey the damage, and notices the Requiem Blaster below him. Instead of using it against either of the villains, he grabs it and runs. Seriously.
"I have a big head...and little arms"
Windblade kind of tries to stop him from leaving the temple, but allows him to just walk past her. He says he shouldn't have come, and shouldn't have let the Requiem Blaster out of the temple back in the Primal Swamp. He starts to leave, leaving his friends and fellow Autobots to die. You know. Like the Optimus Primal we know and love totally would.
"Fearless Warrior" "Sent by the Gods" "Just bolts at the first sign of minor opposition"
Megatron and Rodimus continue to fight, and we get another cool fight scene. The camera angles and occasional slow motion lend themselves really well to the action, and it flows really well. It uses animation to it's benefit, and turns out quite enjoyable again. The action seems to be this series' high point.
We then get to the """bombshell""" of this episode: That, in this universe, Megatron was already once Galvatron, and somehow switched back to his original self. It's not really explained how he did this, or why, or how he inexplicably was able to break from Unicron's control. It's a plot twist that feels like it was created via Madlib. Just for the sake of being dramatic or shocking, without thought being put into the effect it has on the universe, or the means in which we've arrived here. It's forced and confusing.
Windblade steps in the way of Rodimus' blast, saying if he wants to kill Megatron, he'll have to kill her first.
*Unintentionally makes most of the fandom collectively cheer*
He starts choking her (The feasibility of which is still a heated debate on the boards, BTW), and tosses her asside. Rodimus is about to finish Megatron off, but Overlord intervenes, saying that this is his to finish. He's just about to snuff his spark, when Optimus Primal (who's been Spiderman-ing up in the rafters this entire time) tosses the Requiem Blaster to Megatron. As he's just about to fire it at Overlord, the episode ends.
This episode made it very clear that the action and fight scenes are the best part of this series by far. They're directed and choreographed well, and flow extremely smoothly. There are still problems and continuity errors about the damage (or lack thereof) these characters take when fighting, (see: Overlord getting shot in the face), but on the whole they are very good. It's interesting to see how much of a departure this episode was from the previous 5. It stayed in one location, in one continuous time line, with the same set of characters the entire time, and it benefited from it. Not switching scenes every two minutes gave the episode a much more linear and cohesive feel, something it's been struggling to do until now. The story is also taking off extremely quickly, compared to the 4-5 episode lead up that just sat and spun it's wheels we've had over the past few weeks. By far the best episode yet of POTP. It has the typical Prime Wars issues, but a large improvement overall. Lets see if they can keep it up!
Thanks for reading my review of episode 6. You can find it on Go90 and the Transformers Tumblr (if you're outside of the US) for free, so please go watch it and tell me what you thought of both the episode and my review. Do you agree or disagree? Let me know! See you next week!
...to the sweet, sweet release of death.
As I mentioned above, the two units of Megatronus are in a heated battle with Megatron, Windblade, Optimus Primal, Grimlock, and Perceptor. The dinobot gets tossed into a computer, the monkey gets crushed by some falling debris, courtesy of Rodimus, and Windblade distracts him by...jumping on his shoulders. Overlord, meanwhile, is tackling Megatron, electrocuting him. Perceptor notices the Requiem Blaster has landed at his feet, and threatens Overlord with it. Overlord laughs, but it gives Megatron and shoot him.
So let me get this straight. Megatron shoots Overlord, from two feet away, point blank, IN THE FACE, and Overlord gets up without any damage? ... These reviews are becoming more and more taxing to write with each episode.
To be fair to the show, it does include some cool scenes in this episode. Some neat action, and cool Transformation shots. For instance, here we actually see Overlord separate into his jet and tank, and Megs transforms into his tank mode in response. It's actually really fun and enjoyable to watch. The fun is cut short, however, when Rodimus just straight up picks Megatron up and throws him across the room. Overlord recombines, and Windblade starts shooting at him. Rodimus starts beating up Megatron, in a shot that lasts far too long and becomes really awkward.
Tonight on Battlebots!
Grimlock gets back up, as Overlord creates a force field, stops a bunch of Windblade's shots, and Hadouken's them back up toward her, which is apparently something he can do now. One of the shots hits Grimlock in the chest, though I'm not sure how. I'm assuming they tried to make it look like it ricocheted off of Windblade, but it does not come across. Megatron is still getting beat senseless, as Grimlock recovers from his hit.
Jesus. It's like a Royal Rumble in here.
As Grimlock attacks Overlord with his weak Dino mode arms instead of, y'know, anything else, Optimus Primal finally gets up again to survey the damage, and notices the Requiem Blaster below him. Instead of using it against either of the villains, he grabs it and runs. Seriously.
"I have a big head...and little arms"
Windblade kind of tries to stop him from leaving the temple, but allows him to just walk past her. He says he shouldn't have come, and shouldn't have let the Requiem Blaster out of the temple back in the Primal Swamp. He starts to leave, leaving his friends and fellow Autobots to die. You know. Like the Optimus Primal we know and love totally would.
"Fearless Warrior" "Sent by the Gods" "Just bolts at the first sign of minor opposition"
Megatron and Rodimus continue to fight, and we get another cool fight scene. The camera angles and occasional slow motion lend themselves really well to the action, and it flows really well. It uses animation to it's benefit, and turns out quite enjoyable again. The action seems to be this series' high point.
We then get to the """bombshell""" of this episode: That, in this universe, Megatron was already once Galvatron, and somehow switched back to his original self. It's not really explained how he did this, or why, or how he inexplicably was able to break from Unicron's control. It's a plot twist that feels like it was created via Madlib. Just for the sake of being dramatic or shocking, without thought being put into the effect it has on the universe, or the means in which we've arrived here. It's forced and confusing.
Windblade steps in the way of Rodimus' blast, saying if he wants to kill Megatron, he'll have to kill her first.
*Unintentionally makes most of the fandom collectively cheer*
He starts choking her (The feasibility of which is still a heated debate on the boards, BTW), and tosses her asside. Rodimus is about to finish Megatron off, but Overlord intervenes, saying that this is his to finish. He's just about to snuff his spark, when Optimus Primal (who's been Spiderman-ing up in the rafters this entire time) tosses the Requiem Blaster to Megatron. As he's just about to fire it at Overlord, the episode ends.
This episode made it very clear that the action and fight scenes are the best part of this series by far. They're directed and choreographed well, and flow extremely smoothly. There are still problems and continuity errors about the damage (or lack thereof) these characters take when fighting, (see: Overlord getting shot in the face), but on the whole they are very good. It's interesting to see how much of a departure this episode was from the previous 5. It stayed in one location, in one continuous time line, with the same set of characters the entire time, and it benefited from it. Not switching scenes every two minutes gave the episode a much more linear and cohesive feel, something it's been struggling to do until now. The story is also taking off extremely quickly, compared to the 4-5 episode lead up that just sat and spun it's wheels we've had over the past few weeks. By far the best episode yet of POTP. It has the typical Prime Wars issues, but a large improvement overall. Lets see if they can keep it up!
Thanks for reading my review of episode 6. You can find it on Go90 and the Transformers Tumblr (if you're outside of the US) for free, so please go watch it and tell me what you thought of both the episode and my review. Do you agree or disagree? Let me know! See you next week!
Re: Try Not to Lose Your Head: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 5 REVIEW (1963547)
Posted by Bronzewolf on June 7th, 2018 @ 2:42am CDT
Posted by Bronzewolf on June 7th, 2018 @ 2:42am CDT
Sorry this took SO DANG LONG, everybody. Between several big IRL events going on and a severe case of writer's block, my heart just wasn't in it until now. I promise to be a bit more on time next week. To make up for it, here's another episode of
...Rejokes?
...Rejoketed?
Just one this week, cut simply because the link contains explicit language. I still thought it was funny:
Grunts straight out of Sonic Forces...
REJECTED JOKES!
...Rejokes?
...Rejoketed?
REJOKETED!
Just one this week, cut simply because the link contains explicit language. I still thought it was funny:
Grunts straight out of Sonic Forces...
Re: Try Not to Lose Your Head: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 5 REVIEW (1963552)
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 7th, 2018 @ 5:49am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 7th, 2018 @ 5:49am CDT
What's overlord doing in that picture...this one shot makes it look like he's dancing the macereina (a 90s dance moves for those too young to have suffered through it)
Re: Try Not to Lose Your Head: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 5 REVIEW (1963566)
Posted by Rodimus Knight on June 7th, 2018 @ 7:42am CDT
Posted by Rodimus Knight on June 7th, 2018 @ 7:42am CDT
You forgot my favorite part, where Perceptor gets his hands on the Blaster aims it menacingly, and then monologues like a badly written 80's cartoon villain instead of just shooting the super powerful bad guy who's trying to kill his companions.
I hate this version of Perceptor so much.
I hate this version of Perceptor so much.
Re: Try Not to Lose Your Head: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 5 REVIEW (1963625)
Posted by Skritz on June 7th, 2018 @ 1:48pm CDT
Posted by Skritz on June 7th, 2018 @ 1:48pm CDT
It's so weird they gave Primal fur when he's clearly based off his new toy which doesn't turn into a gorilla. It bugs me to no end. Had the show taken creative liberties and allowed him to turn into his beast mode even when the toy can't (at least not the regular, pre-Transmetal gorilla) it would have been fine.
This just bugs me to no end.
This just bugs me to no end.
Re: Try Not to Lose Your Head: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 5 REVIEW (1963627)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 7th, 2018 @ 2:06pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 7th, 2018 @ 2:06pm CDT
It's weird that he's not even based on his new toy. It's like they started with a base model based on his vintage furry gorilla robot look, but then backtracked by adding the cockpit from his new toy to his back to give him some visual consistency with his new toy, and then added random panel flats running along the side of his forearms for whatever reason.Skritz wrote:It's so weird they gave Primal fur when he's clearly based off his new toy which doesn't turn into a gorilla.
Re: Try Not to Lose Your Head: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 5 REVIEW (1964475)
Posted by Va'al on June 12th, 2018 @ 12:40am CDT
Posted by Va'al on June 12th, 2018 @ 12:40am CDT
It's Tuesday again, Seibertronians, and you all know what that means! The next episode of Machinima's Power of the Primes animated series has been uploaded and is ready to be viewed
The episode can be watched on Go90 here, or for viewers outside of the US, it is available on the Prime Wars Tumblr here. After you've watched the episode, share your thoughts with other Seibertronians in the Energon Pub Forums, and stay tuned for our review of the episode coming soon too!
The episode can be watched on Go90 here, or for viewers outside of the US, it is available on the Prime Wars Tumblr here. After you've watched the episode, share your thoughts with other Seibertronians in the Energon Pub Forums, and stay tuned for our review of the episode coming soon too!
Megatron finally figures out Megatronus' plan, but fears it may be too late to stop him when Megatronus arrives to claim the Requiem Blaster for himself.
Re: Try Not to Lose Your Head: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 5 REVIEW (1964510)
Posted by Burn on June 12th, 2018 @ 4:57am CDT
Posted by Burn on June 12th, 2018 @ 4:57am CDT
Dialogue ... so much shitty dialogue ...
Re: Try Not to Lose Your Head: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 5 REVIEW (1964551)
Posted by Stormtalon on June 12th, 2018 @ 8:46am CDT
Posted by Stormtalon on June 12th, 2018 @ 8:46am CDT
It feels like every Machinima series shows three or four episodes of a standard 21 minute per episode, 13 episode series.
I really should dunk on Power of the Primes harder, but there is so little there its too small a target. The only part I'm close to feeling bummed about is Overlord. That was a backstory I could have stood watching. How did he lead the Decepticons? How did he lose to Megatron? How did he fall in with Unicron? And if Megatron had to wrest power from someone like Overlord, why would he put up with Starscream for any amount of time? Now we'll never down.
Rest will sweet Overlord may a chorus of... (In keeping with Machinima's style of storytelling, the quote will be continued net week.
I really should dunk on Power of the Primes harder, but there is so little there its too small a target. The only part I'm close to feeling bummed about is Overlord. That was a backstory I could have stood watching. How did he lead the Decepticons? How did he lose to Megatron? How did he fall in with Unicron? And if Megatron had to wrest power from someone like Overlord, why would he put up with Starscream for any amount of time? Now we'll never down.
Rest will sweet Overlord may a chorus of... (In keeping with Machinima's style of storytelling, the quote will be continued net week.
Re: Try Not to Lose Your Head: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 5 REVIEW (1964552)
Posted by william-james88 on June 12th, 2018 @ 8:51am CDT
I could not disagree more. Its what I find worst. Take the previous episode (the one whose review I am quoting) and that scene of Rodimus Unicornus just punching on repeat. It is just all kinds of boring and lazy and it doesnt even look like he is hitting anything.
Another really crappy part about the action is how they break it up. So you have this big fight with Overlord and then in the middle of it, you have windblade talking as if there is no fight going on. You dont hear the githing sound effects, its justa talking scene with widblade. And then 2 mins later we see the fight continuing.
Its just all kinds of terrible.
Posted by william-james88 on June 12th, 2018 @ 8:51am CDT
Bronzewolf wrote:I
This episode made it very clear that the action and fight scenes are the best part of this series by far. They're directed and choreographed well, and flow extremely smoothly.
I could not disagree more. Its what I find worst. Take the previous episode (the one whose review I am quoting) and that scene of Rodimus Unicornus just punching on repeat. It is just all kinds of boring and lazy and it doesnt even look like he is hitting anything.
Another really crappy part about the action is how they break it up. So you have this big fight with Overlord and then in the middle of it, you have windblade talking as if there is no fight going on. You dont hear the githing sound effects, its justa talking scene with widblade. And then 2 mins later we see the fight continuing.
Its just all kinds of terrible.
Re: Try Not to Lose Your Head: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 5 REVIEW (1964563)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 12th, 2018 @ 10:15am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 12th, 2018 @ 10:15am CDT
Sorry about not posting any links last night. I got in very late from my flight back home from RoboCon and I just needed to get right to sleep.
Anyway, this episode.
How is the rest of the library not blasted to smithereens if one shot from the blaster blasted that huge dent on the side of the planet? In fact, we see how big that dent is, yet when we cut to the closer shot of the surface near the library, that part of the dent looks much less wide and deep than the enormous dent seen from space.
Grimlock giving Megatron a hug, trying to be funny... It's like they can't decide if they want super grim and serious Marvel Grimlock like he was at the beginning of this show, or silly and comedic Cartoon Grimlock like now.
The Closed Captions typo Grimlock saying "Megatron not bad" as "Megatron not mad".
It's like, Megatron's been so serious in this show since it started, that whenever they try to bring back the snide and sarcastic quips that made him enjoyable in the previous two series, they keep having him say them with such dead serious tones that they just don't sound fun anymore. He's too grim now even when trying to crack wise.
Megatron's line of "Any useful clues..." to Perceptor is mis-captioned as "Many useful clues..."
Okay, there is admittedly a subtlety to Mark Hamill's performance that suggests that he's trying to do a decent job with his dialogue, but the animation on Megatronus's face never ever changing it from resembling anything beyond stoic unemotional boredom completely betrays any of Hamill's attempts to give any kind of emotion to the character.
Wait, did Megatronus not know that Unicron could speak through Rodimus via the Matrix of Chaos, when Megatronus was the one who gave it to Overlord (who used it on Rodimus) in the first place?
Huh, Rodimus Cron's altmode is still his Hot Rod car altmode. Guess that means he's less Rodimus Unicronus and more Nemesis Hot Rod.
Daggonit! They kept that stupid thing from the Covenant book about Solus having become the Well of All Sparks (renamed just the "Well of Sparks" here) when she died! The woman of the group becoming Cybertron's babymaker is dumb no matter what continuity it's in.
Okay, I did give a small chuckle to Megatron's unenthusiastic "Fine. Let's go save the universe... I guess."
But not at his "Fine. If it'll get you all to shut up," since that came right off the back of a rather unpleasantly moody speech about not leading anymore, and still had a touch of his jaded moodiness in it.
That last line of "Oh, Optimus... If you could see me now..." With this writing, I half expected it to be followed by a brief bit of Primal looking at him or saying "...I can," as though to knock on his also being named "Optimus".
Anyway, this episode.
How is the rest of the library not blasted to smithereens if one shot from the blaster blasted that huge dent on the side of the planet? In fact, we see how big that dent is, yet when we cut to the closer shot of the surface near the library, that part of the dent looks much less wide and deep than the enormous dent seen from space.
Grimlock giving Megatron a hug, trying to be funny... It's like they can't decide if they want super grim and serious Marvel Grimlock like he was at the beginning of this show, or silly and comedic Cartoon Grimlock like now.
The Closed Captions typo Grimlock saying "Megatron not bad" as "Megatron not mad".
It's like, Megatron's been so serious in this show since it started, that whenever they try to bring back the snide and sarcastic quips that made him enjoyable in the previous two series, they keep having him say them with such dead serious tones that they just don't sound fun anymore. He's too grim now even when trying to crack wise.
Megatron's line of "Any useful clues..." to Perceptor is mis-captioned as "Many useful clues..."
Okay, there is admittedly a subtlety to Mark Hamill's performance that suggests that he's trying to do a decent job with his dialogue, but the animation on Megatronus's face never ever changing it from resembling anything beyond stoic unemotional boredom completely betrays any of Hamill's attempts to give any kind of emotion to the character.
Wait, did Megatronus not know that Unicron could speak through Rodimus via the Matrix of Chaos, when Megatronus was the one who gave it to Overlord (who used it on Rodimus) in the first place?
Huh, Rodimus Cron's altmode is still his Hot Rod car altmode. Guess that means he's less Rodimus Unicronus and more Nemesis Hot Rod.
Daggonit! They kept that stupid thing from the Covenant book about Solus having become the Well of All Sparks (renamed just the "Well of Sparks" here) when she died! The woman of the group becoming Cybertron's babymaker is dumb no matter what continuity it's in.
Okay, I did give a small chuckle to Megatron's unenthusiastic "Fine. Let's go save the universe... I guess."
But not at his "Fine. If it'll get you all to shut up," since that came right off the back of a rather unpleasantly moody speech about not leading anymore, and still had a touch of his jaded moodiness in it.
That last line of "Oh, Optimus... If you could see me now..." With this writing, I half expected it to be followed by a brief bit of Primal looking at him or saying "...I can," as though to knock on his also being named "Optimus".
Re: Try Not to Lose Your Head: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 5 REVIEW (1964594)
Posted by Rodimus Knight on June 12th, 2018 @ 12:24pm CDT
Posted by Rodimus Knight on June 12th, 2018 @ 12:24pm CDT
I hope I don't misquote this one but my favorite Megatron line was
"oh good, I get to kill another Prime."
"oh good, I get to kill another Prime."
Re: Try Not to Lose Your Head: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 5 REVIEW (1964687)
Posted by Ultra Markus on June 12th, 2018 @ 10:17pm CDT
Posted by Ultra Markus on June 12th, 2018 @ 10:17pm CDT
i would bet that we wont see optimus primal as optimal optimus in this
Re: Try Not to Lose Your Head: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 5 REVIEW (1964703)
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 13th, 2018 @ 1:21am CDT
Posted by ZeroWolf on June 13th, 2018 @ 1:21am CDT
They are saving that transformation for later
Re: Try Not to Lose Your Head: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 5 REVIEW (1965577)
Posted by Sabrblade on June 18th, 2018 @ 11:11pm CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on June 18th, 2018 @ 11:11pm CDT
Episode 8 - https://www.go90.com/videos/0WyCoQ9mXkV
Re: Try Not to Lose Your Head: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 5 REVIEW (1965578)
Posted by Va'al on June 18th, 2018 @ 11:54pm CDT
Posted by Va'al on June 18th, 2018 @ 11:54pm CDT
It's Tuesday again, Seibertronians, and you all know what that means! The next episode of Machinima's Power of the Primes animated series has been uploaded and is ready to be viewed. Plus, we also have some behind the scenes looks with Jaime King, the voice of original Thirteen Solus Prime, via Machinima's Instagram account.
This week's episode can be watched on Go90 here, or for viewers outside of the US, it will be available shortly on the Prime Wars Tumblr here. After you've watched the episode, share your thoughts with other Seibertronians in the Energon Pub Forums, and stay tuned for our review of the episode coming soon too!
Transformers: Prime Wars Trilogy Meet the Cast: Jaime King
In this BTS video for Transformers: Power of the Primes, actress Jaime King talks about the importance of her character's role in the Transformers: Prime Wars Trilogy.
Instagram
This week's episode can be watched on Go90 here, or for viewers outside of the US, it will be available shortly on the Prime Wars Tumblr here. After you've watched the episode, share your thoughts with other Seibertronians in the Energon Pub Forums, and stay tuned for our review of the episode coming soon too!
Re: Try Not to Lose Your Head: Machinima Transformers Power of the Primes Episode 5 REVIEW (1965582)
Posted by Skritz on June 19th, 2018 @ 1:21am CDT
If you mean the whole show I wouldn't put it past Machinima's level of fail. They don't get the basics behind 'merch cartoons' which you'd think anyone with a braincell would have figured out.
Posted by Skritz on June 19th, 2018 @ 1:21am CDT
Ultra Markus wrote:i would bet that we wont see optimus primal as optimal optimus in this
If you mean the whole show I wouldn't put it past Machinima's level of fail. They don't get the basics behind 'merch cartoons' which you'd think anyone with a braincell would have figured out.
