Transformers War for Cybertron Siege Micromaster Off Road Patrol UK Sighting and Video Review

That’s awesome!

SGM

o.supreme wrote:Good to, Thank you . I just remember working for a retailer back in the mid-late 90's, and seeing those cool purple-banded Hasbro Boxes with Pawutucket RI on them (yeah like you said 20 years ago). It was neat seeing Beast Wars toys come case fresh. Too bad I only ever purchased a select few.

Cool that you have a positive memory of Pawtucket. Even better that its due to Transformers!

Stargrave wrote: That’s such a cool story thanks for sharing!

Thank you, "The Bucket"" is a unique place with a lot of unique stories.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:I got my ship notification as well and will end up getting mine tomorrow as well. I also suspect Wolfman will be getting his ship notification today and getting his tomorrow or Saturday. I'm assuming pretty much all of us ordered right when it opened, so first come, first service won't 100% explain how quickly or slowly some of us will be getting our ship notifications. Since Amazon ships from multiple distributions centers, I'm assuming all the pre-orders are split up regionally first and then first come first serve from there. The actual ship notifications go out once it is in package and has a tracking number, so if one regional distribution center is starting earlier than another, it can explain why some of us are delayed more than others. But overall it should even out where pretty much everyone that ordered right when they posts became available should be getting theirs tomorrow or Saturday.

I don't disagree with any of your ideas with this. Regional FIFO is where i was starting my theory about this but Nothing of what I am saying is definitive. It would be interesting to pin down an Amazon rep involved with Hasbro/ TFs to explain their preorder distribution process. Sounds like an interesting Seibertron exclusive article topic!

These have been an easy pass for me. Not much lure...

Got my Jetfire at Walmart and my Rainmakers at Target today. Jetfire is well worth the price I think. When you have one in hand you can really see how much care the design team put into him. They did so many little things that we don't see enough of in Transformers today and if it took this price point to make it happen then I don't mind. The wings alone have way more moving parts than people realize just looking at photos, all to make them a little smaller in bot mode. Such a fun figure, I can't wait to see what the next new mold Commander looks like!

Emerje

While it's exciting that both Amazon exclusive Siege sets are shipping and arriving to American consumers, several fans are now reporting a very specific breakage issue for Deluxe Class Slamdance, which comes in the pack officially titled Transformers Generations War for Cybertron Deluxe WFC-S26 Autobot Alphastrike Counterforce 3 Pack - Final Strike Figure Series: Part 1. Slamdance is also packaged with Deluxe Class G2 clone Sideswipe and Battle Masters Trenchfoot.

The breakage with Slamdance is on his left ankle, which you can see in the images below. This problem has been reported several times to the Seibertron.com news staff as well as several Transformers fans on Twitter. Apparently the breakage is caused because the feet are very tight and it's the same plastic material on those parts as Flywheels which are susceptible to stress from the get-go. The figure needs to be handled carefully to avoid the breakage, though it is not clear at this time if even that will prevent breakage.

Here are a handful of twitter posts showing the defect and more reports are coming in as people get them:

https://twitter.com/N0tsofriendly/status/1162089529328701440?s=19
https://twitter.com/UnderscoreZeus/status/1162116742727868417/photo/1
https://twitter.com/KPAutobotX/status/1162140505616068612

Good luck to all of you with your Slamdance! Please let us know if you experience any problems with your Slamdance figure so that we can continue to share this information with other Seibertronians.

Next stage of Siege's battle damage gimmick: Broken toys!

william-james88 wrote:We have some bad news.
The breakage in on the ankle, specifically the left ankle, as you will see in images below. The feet are very tight and it's the same plastic material on those parts as Flywheels which was susceptible to stress from the get-go. Gotta handle it really gingerly.

Good luck to all of you!

Well crap, I'm going to be opening him tonight, good to know to be careful. Are there actually 2 breakage points? The first and last photo show the ankle breaking, but the middle photo looks like the knee might be suspect as well.

I have 2 thoughts....

1. I'm seeing this more and more on the *second use* of any particular figure type, I wonder what the reason is? Definitely causes concern for pretty much all the 35th anniversary packaged figures, Ratchet etc...

Has anyone who purchased Red Alert yet had similar issues?

2. I'm glad they delayed Omega Supreme. I know he is a brand new toy, but taking extra time to QC everything is worth it IMHO.

The question to ask is "What is Hasbro doing to rectify this to customers' satisfaction?" This is a rather expensive exclusive set for one of the figures to be defective and end up broken after a couple of transformations. It's not like one can take the defective figure back to the retail store and exchange it for another figure. Will Hasbro send out replacement parts? Will Hasbro do partial refunds?

wolverinetodd wrote:The question to ask is "What is Hasbro doing to rectify this to customers' satisfaction?" This is a rather expensive exclusive set for one of the figures to be defective and end up broken after a couple of transformations. It's not like one can take the defective figure back to the retail store and exchange it for another figure. Will Hasbro send out replacement parts? Will Hasbro do partial refunds?

No and no to your questions. I don't ever recall a case before where replacement parts were sent out, it is usually a replacement or a refund. And since this was an Amazon exclusive, Amazon will offer replacement or refund and then work it out directly with Hasbro.

I'll be opening mine right when I get home from work today to see if I ended up with a bad one, and if so, package it right back up for Amazon.

Nooooooooooooo! Mine arrives Monday

wolverinetodd wrote:The question to ask is "What is Hasbro doing to rectify this to customers' satisfaction?" This is a rather expensive exclusive set for one of the figures to be defective and end up broken after a couple of transformations. It's not like one can take the defective figure back to the retail store and exchange it for another figure. Will Hasbro send out replacement parts? Will Hasbro do partial refunds?

Hasbro will send you an item of equal value but you have to send them every component of this set first.
You are better off to just return to Amazon for refund.

o.supreme wrote:I have 2 thoughts....

1. I'm seeing this more and more on the *second use* of any particular figure type, I wonder what the reason is? Definitely causes concern for pretty much all the 35th anniversary packaged figures, Ratchet etc...

Has anyone who purchased Red Alert yet had similar issues?

2. I'm glad they delayed Omega Supreme. I know he is a brand new toy, but taking extra time to QC everything is worth it IMHO.

It doesn't seem to be happening with the Seekers. And there's 7 uses of that one. Skytread had issues with his ankles on some of the figures too. It sounds like it's a problem with this specific mold, not a line wide issue.

o.supreme wrote:1. I'm seeing this more and more on the *second use* of any particular figure type, I wonder what the reason is? Definitely causes concern for pretty much all the 35th anniversary packaged figures, Ratchet etc...

Has anyone who purchased Red Alert yet had similar issues?

Do you have any specific examples? The only recent one that comes to mind for me is Red Swoop.

Red Alert is just as solid, if not more than Sideswipe for me. All the Siege seekers after Starscream have been better than Starscream. Ricochet and Combat Hero Megs were equal to Jazz and reg Megs for me.

The Skytread mold already had issues right from the start, so I wonder if they actually adjusted the mold to fix one issue and instead caused another one. Or it could be nothing to do with the molds themselves and rather be an issue with the plastic material used.

Better keep some plastic bonder ready

They’re just taking the battle damage aesthetic to the next level, jeepers. I know Slamdance ‘shoots himself in the foot’ sometimes but this is ridiculous.

My Red Alert is a tad just a smidge looser in the legs but honestly pretty solid.

I know what you mean about that curse of the second use of the mold but with him it’s not so much the case. Thundercracker will be my second Seeker so I’m really curious to see how it holds up. I love Starscream I’m feeling I won’t be disappointed everyone’s loving the Seekers for the same reasons I am.

I dont think its a second mold use curse, I havent seen that trend. Skythread was the siege deluxe suffering from the most QC issues from the get go, so its no suprise that of all the redecos, its this one that also has issues.

william-james88 wrote:I dont think its a second mold use curse, I havent seen that trend. Skythread was the siege deluxe suffering from the most QC issues from the get go, so its no suprise that of all the redecos, its this one that also has issues.

I had to shave down his heel pegs just to get that tank mode to work and it’s still a little eh, you know? He’s otherwise a win though I love how chunky he is and the jet mode is way cool. I reversed his wings and place the long barrel on his back to give him a junior Blitzwing vibe.

william-james88 wrote:I dont think its a second mold use curse, I havent seen that trend. Skythread was the siege deluxe suffering from the most QC issues from the get go, so its no suprise that of all the redecos, its this one that also has issues.

Exactly. It’s not mold degradation. It’s privet just a bad batch of red plastic and that spot where it’s breaking is just a really weak spot.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:
Do you have any specific examples? The only recent one that comes to mind for me is Red Swoop.

I don't like to dredge up old beefs but since you asked...yeah my Red Swoop and Ricochet were pretty much garbage. But this seems to be less frequent than some others (though I know for certain I was not the only one who had issues with these). Glad to know Red Alert is good, also Combat Hero Megs, since that was a selects release and I had my concerns.

Although I wont be getting Bluestreak or Selects Smokescreen, it will be interesting to see what the overall QC of these is. I'm not saying its a *second mold curse* just an observation. being in QC/Auditing is what I'm all about . Something happens twice, it's a red flag, 3 or more times, and it's a trend that needs to be corrected.

Stargrave wrote:They’re just taking the battle damage aesthetic to the next level, jeepers. I know Slamdance ‘shoots himself in the foot’ sometimes but this is ridiculous.

My Red Alert is a tad just a smidge looser in the legs but honestly pretty solid.

I know what you mean about that curse of the second use of the mold but with him it’s not so much the case. Thundercracker will be my second Seeker so I’m really curious to see how it holds up. I love Starscream I’m feeling I won’t be disappointed everyone’s loving the Seekers for the same reasons I am.

I just got Thundercracker yesterday. He's great! The chest panel shows no signs of falling off. I don't have any issues with the figure. At least nothing that can't be fixed with a quarter turn of a screw driver. Slightly loose elbow on one side. No biggie.

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:

Stargrave wrote:They’re just taking the battle damage aesthetic to the next level, jeepers. I know Slamdance ‘shoots himself in the foot’ sometimes but this is ridiculous.

My Red Alert is a tad just a smidge looser in the legs but honestly pretty solid.

I know what you mean about that curse of the second use of the mold but with him it’s not so much the case. Thundercracker will be my second Seeker so I’m really curious to see how it holds up. I love Starscream I’m feeling I won’t be disappointed everyone’s loving the Seekers for the same reasons I am.

I just got Thundercracker yesterday. He's great! The chest panel shows no signs of falling off. I don't have any issues with the figure. At least nothing that can't be fixed with a quarter turn of a screw driver. Slightly loose elbow on one side. No biggie.

Did you order him from Pulse? Amazon?

I just won’t transform my Slammy. If I ever feel the need to transform a figure into stumpy and dorky looking plane and tank modes, I’ll just use Skytread.

sol magnus wrote:

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:

Stargrave wrote:They’re just taking the battle damage aesthetic to the next level, jeepers. I know Slamdance ‘shoots himself in the foot’ sometimes but this is ridiculous.

My Red Alert is a tad just a smidge looser in the legs but honestly pretty solid.

I know what you mean about that curse of the second use of the mold but with him it’s not so much the case. Thundercracker will be my second Seeker so I’m really curious to see how it holds up. I love Starscream I’m feeling I won’t be disappointed everyone’s loving the Seekers for the same reasons I am.

I just got Thundercracker yesterday. He's great! The chest panel shows no signs of falling off. I don't have any issues with the figure. At least nothing that can't be fixed with a quarter turn of a screw driver. Slightly loose elbow on one side. No biggie.

Did you order him from Pulse? Amazon?

Amazon. I got lucky. I saw he was in stock, but by the time I went to order him, it said August 31st before he'd ship. Next day I was on Amazon again and it said 1-2 days. Cancelled the first order and ordered again. Now he's August 31st again.

I got Skywarp yesterday, and his chest panel is just as prone to popping off as Starscream's, if not more. I have all the other Seekers, and so far, only Starscream and Skywarp have that issue.

I have Red Alert and Ratchet and they're just as good as the original use of the molds if not better like in Ratchet's case. I was giving Hasbro a lot of slack with Slamdance because I liked the blue on Rain Dance, but if they can't even make sure a repaint in a set is 100% then there's a problem. Mine will be here tomorrow so we'll see.

My Red Alert has his right fist positioned backward...

Fun with a flight stand.

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:Fun with a flight stand.

Does TC have decepticon symbols in his inner wings like Starscream?

william-james88 wrote:

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:Fun with a flight stand.

Does TC have decepticon symbols in his inner wings like Starscream?

He does not. I was surprised by that.

Umm, Eek? I transformed my Slamdance a few times last night and didnt notice any breakage, although there is a hitch in his leg trying to bend his foot, it could be related? Maybe there is flash in a joint and the tension is giving at the soft plastic arounf the metal pin?

*Carefully putsSlamdance on a shelf and never touches him again*

On a related note, I am now so torn about G2 Sideswipe. This is my first expsrience with the mold and I *Like* it but I'm not sure I *love* it. I am tempted to sell mine, but I think I want to see if the 3P guys do any Guns and the Bandolier. I wish we knew if there was a Sunstreaker coming for Siege2, I *might* be more inclined to circle back for Swipe then.

I think I'd actually be interested in the Seeker mold if it didn't have the fake F-15 cockpit slapped on the chest/plane rear. That's one thing that's always bugged me about "Cybertronian-mode" designs, the fake Earth-mode chunks slapped on, and "faux-parts" are already something I can't stand. This line seems to avoid that, for the most part.

(On that note, when was the last time we got a G1 Starscream that had an actual cockpit-chest? The Legends figure? And that's not even addressing the chest turbines, which I believe only the Masterpiece ever had actually folding up.) I don't mind Siegescream's chest turbines, since they could be interpreted as engines.

I know I'm nitpicking about a-million-and-a-half times too hard right now, but I wish that the seeker mold chest actually looked like something that could be the rear of a spaceship, even if that's not slavishly G1 enough.

I have literally no idea why I ranted so hard about this, but I'm really picky about G1 Starscreams for some reason.

Unicron Magnus wrote:I think I'd actually be interested in the Seeker mold if it didn't have the fake F-15 cockpit slapped on the chest/plane rear. That's one thing that's always bugged me about "Cybertronian-mode" designs, the fake Earth-mode chunks slapped on, and "faux-parts" are already something I can't stand. This line seems to avoid that, for the most part.

(On that note, when was the last time we got a G1 Starscream that had an actual cockpit-chest? The Legends figure? And that's not even addressing the chest turbines, which I believe only the Masterpiece ever had actually folding up.) I don't mind Siegescream's chest turbines, since they could be interpreted as engines.

I know I'm nitpicking about a-million-and-a-half times too hard right now, but I wish that the seeker mold chest actually looked like something that could be the rear of a spaceship, even if that's not slavishly G1 enough.

I have literally no idea why I ranted so hard about this, but I'm really picky about G1 Starscreams for some reason.

Dude it’s cool, you’re in the right place. Starscream appreciators welcome

i got lucky with mine, no breaks

"Transformers Generations War for Cybertron Deluxe WFC-S26 Autobot Alphastrike Counterforce 3 Pack - Final Strike Figure Series: Part 1."

The longest name for anything ever!

"Power of the Primes Optimal Optimus" and "Studio Series Bumblebee Optimus Prime" are rather short in comparison.

Triggerdick Megatron wrote:"Transformers Generations War for Cybertron Deluxe WFC-S26 Autobot Alphastrike Counterforce 3 Pack - Final Strike Figure Series: Part 1."

The longest name for anything ever!

"Power of the Primes Optimal Optimus" and "Studio Series Bumblebee Optimus Prime" are rather short in comparison.

"Hasbro, Inc. Transformers Generations Combiner Wars Leader class Ultra Magnus Duly Appointed Enforcer of the Tyrest Accord (with Minimus Ambus)".

Just found Siege Jetfire at the larger Walmart in my area, the one I expected it to be at, if any store in my area were to get them. Thanks to Rodimus Prime for the tip to look in the Jurassic Park section . This is the same store I've often criticized for going overboard with anti-theft devices (all their reissue Optimus Primes and Siege leaders have them) Oddly enough, Jetfire did not....

This doesn't happen often, but it was a little uncomfortable seeing my wife's eyes widen when she saw the price at checkout, probably should have explained that ahead of time .....(I usually do, just somehow forgot...), but that's OK, my work bonus next week should more then compensate

I think everyone needs to contact Hasbro on this and set a recall, because there's no way it should be like that.

Unicron Magnus wrote:I think I'd actually be interested in the Seeker mold if it didn't have the fake F-15 cockpit slapped on the chest/plane rear. That's one thing that's always bugged me about "Cybertronian-mode" designs, the fake Earth-mode chunks slapped on, and "faux-parts" are already something I can't stand. This line seems to avoid that, for the most part.

(On that note, when was the last time we got a G1 Starscream that had an actual cockpit-chest? The Legends figure?.

We had a real cockpit chest G1 starscream in the cyberbattalion series from a couple years ago. Plus the combiner starscream uses a real cockpit in combined mode, which I found fun.

Got my Slamdance and Skywarp sets in yesterday. Thankfully I'm not having the Slamdance ankle issue. Really cool sets overall! The Seeker collection is so cool. 7 of them all lined up!

My Counterstrike sets finally shipped from Amazon, should be here Saturday.

Emerje

About Amazon's Slamdance, don't tell me it's GPS 2.0?

Seems like the Skytread mold is the real dud of this line, between this and the issues on the tank. Shame, because I feel like the Duocons are a neat concept.

Skywarp arrives TODAY! Not Monday as initially reported.

Unicron Magnus wrote:Seems like the Skytread mold is the real dud of this line, between this and the issues on the tank. Shame, because I feel like the Duocons are a neat concept.

The mold looks quite nice in robot mode though so even the dud of the line has merit. While I’m impressed that they made a rather aesthetic deluxe size robot mode Duocon, the Duocon gimmick probably needs to be applied to the voyager class to get decent vehicle modes out of it.

I still wish that we had gotten little robot modes for the vehicles. Yeah, it would have been an engineering nightmare when it comes to the jet and probably would have resulted in Skytread not being released in this line due to the legends class being replaced, but I'd rather he match Battletrap's new gimmick from POTP because I feel like that added something new to the duocons

-Kanrabat- wrote:About Amazon's Slamdance, don't tell me it's GPS 2.0?

*takes a deep breath preparing to scream*

No, it's not. It's a tension related break, as described in the article as a really tight joint. That's a red flag right there, an overly tight joint means there's too much friction in a certain spot and the force required to move causes any weaker spots to give.

My Skytread has a similar issue (that left joint being tighter than the right, but not to the point of jamming), so it may be a tolerance issue with the mold itself, coupled with the plastic used. A bit disheartening, I was looking forward to getting him

Finally got lucky and found the Seeker set at a local Target here in Virginia.

SGM

SGMLordMirage wrote:Finally got lucky and found the Seeker set at a local Target here in Virginia.

SGM

Nice. They're up the road in Maryland, too. Looks like I'm going to pass on them, but I still think they're great!

In other news, my Skywarp just hit the Amazon pick up box!

Vic Zanzibar wrote:

Unicron Magnus wrote:Seems like the Skytread mold is the real dud of this line, between this and the issues on the tank. Shame, because I feel like the Duocons are a neat concept.

The mold looks quite nice in robot mode though so even the dud of the line has merit. While I’m impressed that they made a rather aesthetic deluxe size robot mode Duocon, the Duocon gimmick probably needs to be applied to the voyager class to get decent vehicle modes out of it.

I'm alright with the current vehicles, but it's disappointing that the tank can't peg together fully without having to trim down the plastic.

(Edit: does Slamdance have the same problems? Or just the ankle?)