Transformers War for Cybertron: Siege Commander Class Jetfire £61.45 on Amazon.co.uk

So here are a couple of shots with Omega Supreme in a super-duper mega city with all the titans and Titan's Return/Legends leaders with base modes. I'll throw some more pics and details of what I have crammed together in the Awesome Pictures and Poses thread since it crosses over so many toy lines.

Nemesis Primal wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I'm going by the Pulse pre-orders, which have a pre-order date of 1/1/2020.

Astrotrain is the only one with that release date, I just double-checked. Spinister, Crosshairs, and Apeface are all slated for December 1st, and I feel like all of the retail Siege stuff has shown up at brick and mortar before shipping from Pulse anyway. I can only assume that Rung and such will be out around there as well, and given past years where new line Wave 1's have shown up in November/December at some stores, I'm expecting all of them to probably show up at brick and mortar in Novemberish.

I'm expecting first sightings to be in November, but they will be elusive through December and into january.

And i highly doubt they can pull off 5 waves in a year without wave 5 taking up the wave 1 2020 slot. That's just gonna be a mess where people miss out.

Sabrblade wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

o.supreme wrote: Anyone know of any other Siege figures that has had seemingly lesser quantities produced?

I would assume leader Galaxy Optimus. But since demand is low, the after market price may not be that high.

It's possible, but its also still available at regular price on Pulse and most other sites. But demand as you say may be a factor as well.

My guess is when people found out how much they liked Smashdown, they jumped all over that figure and turned it into a hot ticket item, making it harder for the rest of us who haven't gotten one yet to get one at normal price.

I mean, I did buy 5, and show them off for a month, and witnessed people on this site and Twitter buy multiples after I did, and there have been a decent number of mjolmir customs from her as well.

P.S.: TF Card Game did name Smashdown a her. I'm going with that.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:So here are a couple of shots with Omega Supreme in a super-duper mega city with all the titans and Titan's Return/Legends leaders with base modes. I'll throw some more pics and details of what I have crammed together in the Awesome Pictures and Poses thread since it crosses over so many toy lines.

Oh, bro. As much as I like TF, and as great as that cityscape is (it really is), blocking that pool table makes me sad

My guess is when people found out how much they liked Smashdown, they jumped all over that figure and turned it into a hot ticket item, making it harder for the rest of us who haven't gotten one yet to get one at normal price.
I mean, I did buy 5, and show them off for a month, and witnessed people on this site and Twitter buy multiples after I did, and there have been a decent number of mjolmir customs from her as well.

P.S.: TF Card Game did name Smashdown a her. I'm going with that.

Uhhh that's kind of a way good point now that you mention it that did all happen after you hammered us with Smashdown pics. Dude, you trend setter!

Refraktors docking: complete.

Stargrave wrote:Refraktors docking: complete.

Well now that's pretty intimidating, wonder if there is any way to fit Soundwave in there somewhere.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I'm going by the Pulse pre-orders, which have a pre-order date of 1/1/2020.

Astrotrain is the only one with that release date, I just double-checked. Spinister, Crosshairs, and Apeface are all slated for December 1st, and I feel like all of the retail Siege stuff has shown up at brick and mortar before shipping from Pulse anyway. I can only assume that Rung and such will be out around there as well, and given past years where new line Wave 1's have shown up in November/December at some stores, I'm expecting all of them to probably show up at brick and mortar in Novemberish.

I'm expecting first sightings to be in November, but they will be elusive through December and into january.

And i highly doubt they can pull off 5 waves in a year without wave 5 taking up the wave 1 2020 slot. That's just gonna be a mess where people miss out.

Sabrblade wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

o.supreme wrote: Anyone know of any other Siege figures that has had seemingly lesser quantities produced?

I would assume leader Galaxy Optimus. But since demand is low, the after market price may not be that high.

It's possible, but its also still available at regular price on Pulse and most other sites. But demand as you say may be a factor as well.

My guess is when people found out how much they liked Smashdown, they jumped all over that figure and turned it into a hot ticket item, making it harder for the rest of us who haven't gotten one yet to get one at normal price.

I mean, I did buy 5, and show them off for a month, and witnessed people on this site and Twitter buy multiples after I did, and there have been a decent number of mjolmir customs from her as well.

P.S.: TF Card Game did name Smashdown a her. I'm going with that.

Yes, and thanks to you I now think of Smashdown as a her

william-james88 wrote:We have some Transformers Seige War For Cybertron news for you today. Rob Springer found some listings on the Walgreens computer. Firstly, we see the War for Cybertron Siege assortment, which has a retail price of $17.99 USD. This is not the MSRP, this is simply what Walgreens chooses to sell them for in their store.

There is also a listing for deluxe Ratchet and this one is both outside the assortment and priced at $19.99. This gives a pretty good hint that like Wreck Gar, who was also singled out on the Walgreens database, Ratchet will be an exclusive figure.

We also see Walgreen's cost for these figures, which is over $13, meaning they are making less than $5 per deluxe sold at full price.

I keep searching the internet as to when Siege Ratchet is expected to hit Walgreens and one link brought me back to here. That's when I noticed the date of this post. It's literally been a year since news broke that Siege Ratchet would be released as a Walgreens exclusive and it's yet to hit the Walgreens stores. Does that sound a bit crazy that it's taking this long and still nothing in Walgreens?

I just popped into my local Walgreens last night to check and see if Ratchet popped up but no luck.

I was super surprised to find a Refraktor , a Red Alert, and a Brunt.

The employee there said that they’re getting their Christmas stuff out now so they keep checking back in the next few weeks.

I’m definitely itching to get a Ratchet I can’t believe it’s been that long!

Keep calm about Ratchet guys. The Walgreens exclusive generations figures don't even hit saturation till around Thanksgiving or later. Now that the stores are starting to roll out the Christmas stock, it's not a bad idea to look. But don't go out of your way. This is just how it has been each year. If you don't find one by the first week in December, then you have my permission to panic.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:So here are a couple of shots with Omega Supreme in a super-duper mega city with all the titans and Titan's Return/Legends leaders with base modes. I'll throw some more pics and details of what I have crammed together in the Awesome Pictures and Poses thread since it crosses over so many toy lines.

Titan Town 1.jpg

Titan Town 3.jpg

Oh man, that is a thing of beauty! I cant wait to finish my own. Of course I still need Greatshot, Big Powered, Omega Supreme & (when he comes out) Astrotrain.

mordhelm wrote:Keep calm about Ratchet guys. The Walgreens exclusive generations figures don't even hit saturation till around Thanksgiving or later. Now that the stores are starting to roll out the Christmas stock, it's not a bad idea to look. But don't go out of your way. This is just how it has been each year. If you don't find one by the first week in December, then you have my permission to panic.

^^This^^

I will add, these will show up in Walgreens on the west coast first and move their way eastward. The last 3 years has been the same for me, I've found the Walgreens exclusive in my area about 1-2 weeks after they first appear on the west coast, in early November all 3 times.

Sounds about right based on the sightings forums.....

TR Brainstorm (2016) 10/21/16
TR Cloudraker/Wingspan 2 pack (2017) 11/8/17
PotP Wreck-Gar (2018) 10/12/18
Siege Ratchet (2019) ???

So yeah, Wreck-Gar was the earliest fond release so far, but no need to start searching until at earliest mid-October

Also of note, at least in my area, Brainstorm I only saw two times. The Clones repack seemed to be restocked so often, I even saw them the next YEAR when I went to purchase Wreck-Gar. While Wreck-Gar himself seems to have sold out pretty quickly.

I do not plan to purchase Ratchet, but I do enjoy seeing the toys on the shelves, so I'll be on the lookout for it.

TF-fan kev777 that base mode is amazing!

Hey check it out kind of random but blast effects make perfect melee weapon stands:

Stargrave wrote:TF-fan kev777 that base mode is amazing!

Thanks. As a heads up to anyone looking forward to building a city of their own, due to the height of the track, Omega Supreme can only really connect to Fort Max, Grand Max or any of the Powermaster Prime/Ginrai variants. All the other TR/Legends leader base mode ramps are too short to connect directly.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

mordhelm wrote:Keep calm about Ratchet guys. The Walgreens exclusive generations figures don't even hit saturation till around Thanksgiving or later. Now that the stores are starting to roll out the Christmas stock, it's not a bad idea to look. But don't go out of your way. This is just how it has been each year. If you don't find one by the first week in December, then you have my permission to panic.

^^This^^

I will add, these will show up in Walgreens on the west coast first and move their way eastward. The last 3 years has been the same for me, I've found the Walgreens exclusive in my area about 1-2 weeks after they first appear on the west coast, in early November all 3 times.

Yeah, keep calm. Walgreens take forever to stock.

And they eventually put things online too. I never saw the previous ones in stores at all, I had to get from other folks

Fellow Seibertronian TF-fan kev777 took the time to build a Transformers Titan Town connected to the recently released Siege Omega Supreme. We knew Omega could connect to other bases, but Kev shows us how exactly and recommends some bases since the connector port is rather high on Omega. You can check out the images below, enjoy!

TF-fan kev777 wrote:So here are a couple of shots with Omega Supreme in a super-duper mega city with all the titans and Titans Return/Legends leaders with base modes.

As a heads up to anyone looking forward to building a city of their own, due to the height of the track, Omega Supreme can only really connect to Fort Max, Grand Max or any of the Powermaster Prime/Ginrai variants. All the other TR/Legends leader base mode ramps are too short to connect directly.

There's some other guy that's done this already.

But it's still a neat setup! Good job, Lore Keeper!

Now separate the Bots from the Cons!

So I might be in the minority here, but I think that looks awful. The connectivity thing was just a bad choice IMHO.

Rodimus Knight wrote:So I might be in the minority here, but I think that looks awful. The connectivity thing was just a bad choice IMHO.

The connectivity was fine, it's just some of the base modes aren't that great. I kind of like the fan made metroplex/fort max combination and then some of the other fan modes like jetfire and ultra magnus could make base lay outs a bit more interesting along with the voyager TR prime variants base modes thrown in.

Topspin, Twin Twist, Sonic Bomber, and Roadfire all have Zone Base Modes too, but no ramps since they're all Deluxes.

blackeyedprime wrote:

Rodimus Knight wrote:So I might be in the minority here, but I think that looks awful. The connectivity thing was just a bad choice IMHO.

The connectivity was fine, it's just some of the base modes aren't that great. I kind of like the fan made metroplex/fort max combination and then some of the other fan modes like jetfire and ultra magnus could make base lay outs a bit more interesting along with the voyager TR prime variants base modes thrown in.

Which fan mode of Metroplex and Fort Max you mean? Im curious

This is the perfect example of something that sounds awesome in your head but doesn't work in reality. Instead of a base, city or battle station it looks like a junk parts lot on ebay.

Dannshinigami wrote:

blackeyedprime wrote:

Rodimus Knight wrote:So I might be in the minority here, but I think that looks awful. The connectivity thing was just a bad choice IMHO.

The connectivity was fine, it's just some of the base modes aren't that great. I kind of like the fan made metroplex/fort max combination and then some of the other fan modes like jetfire and ultra magnus could make base lay outs a bit more interesting along with the voyager TR prime variants base modes thrown in.

Which fan mode of Metroplex and Fort Max you mean? Im curious

I can't find the video/photos at the mo, but there is a way of draping a fort max over metroplex that makes a beefier base but the placement on these makes the autobot bases look better:

https://www.facebook.com/unicroncom/pos ... %22R%22%7D

Eh, the connectivity pegs are something I think I would've loved as a kid. Doesn't look great, but surely great play value

YRQRM0 wrote:Eh, the connectivity pegs are something I think I would've loved as a kid. Doesn't look great, but surely great play value

Hit the nail on the head. I think we as a community (yes, I'm pointing at myself here) forget this a lot.

These are childrens toys made for children. The G1 homage and aesthetic are simply to grab extra dollars from the collectors, but that's all we are, extra. We dont even rank a notch compared to parents buying for kids.

Ironhidensh wrote:

YRQRM0 wrote:Eh, the connectivity pegs are something I think I would've loved as a kid. Doesn't look great, but surely great play value

Hit the nail on the head. I think we as a community (yes, I'm pointing at myself here) forget this a lot.

These are childrens toys made for children. The G1 homage and aesthetic are simply to grab extra dollars from the collectors, but that's all we are, extra. We dont even rank a notch compared to parents buying for kids.

Apparently, fans older than 10 represent 30% of the consumers. Obviously still not the majority but a decent enough chunk that I can see why hasbro actually cared enough to redo those dino casettes, make a seeker 3 pack that no one but a few fans would care about, redo the power dashers ect.

I'd definitely support any 3P add-ons for Generations Metroplex that made him officially compatible with other TR bases/cities, but as we can see, it can still be made to look good.

o.supreme wrote:I'd definitely support any 3P add-ons for Generations Metroplex that made him officially compatible with other TR bases/cities, but as we can see, it can still be made to look good.

Honestly I like this idea, but instead of the TR style connectors, I'd go with the newer Siege connectors like on Omega Supreme and Astrotrain's launch pad. They are just better connectors, the TR ones can be a real pain in some configurations.

This looks like so much fun. Especially if there were Headmasters and Prime Masters all over the place with Minicons and Legends. It would be really cool if you got a bunch of the Omega Supreme tracks to connect to Titans together and have long roads from City bot to City bot.

Epsilon Delta wrote:This looks like so much fun. Especially if there were Headmasters and Prime Masters all over the place with Minicons and Legends. It would be really cool if you got a bunch of the Omega Supreme tracks to connect to Titans together and have long roads from City bot to City bot.

My daughter and I will be doing that in the very near future, well sort of, this is going to be our town for all the Botbots initially. Then I get to take over with the titan masters, prime masters, micro masters, battle masters, just about any other masters and the legends.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Epsilon Delta wrote:This looks like so much fun. Especially if there were Headmasters and Prime Masters all over the place with Minicons and Legends. It would be really cool if you got a bunch of the Omega Supreme tracks to connect to Titans together and have long roads from City bot to City bot.

My daughter and I will be doing that in the very near future, well sort of, this is going to be our town for all the Botbots initially. Then I get to take over with the titan masters, prime masters, micro masters, battle masters, just about any other masters and the legends.

I'm stocking up on small transformers for when I get Omega Supreme. I used to love the transforming playsets like the micromachines and Star Wars ones that went from Slave-1 to Tatooine, or an imperial pilot to a training academy. Never had the city bots so I'm pretty excited to play with my kids with the Titans

I have all the TM's PM's and (so far released) BM's. I was never into Miscromasters originally, but my son does have a couple that he likes, they'll all be battling it out in Cybertron City!

Is it just me, or is Target being odd with stocking the Battle Masters and Micromasters? There were good with stocking them up to Wave 3 with Walmart stopping, but now they seem to have reverted back to Wave 1?

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Is it just me, or is Target being odd with stocking the Battle Masters and Micromasters? There were good with stocking them up to Wave 3 with Walmart stopping, but now they seem to have reverted back to Wave 1?

My targets have consistently had wave 1 and wave 2 Micromasters, but nothing past.

Walmarts don't even carry those size classes anymore, haven't most of the year

william-james88 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:

YRQRM0 wrote:Eh, the connectivity pegs are something I think I would've loved as a kid. Doesn't look great, but surely great play value

Hit the nail on the head. I think we as a community (yes, I'm pointing at myself here) forget this a lot.

These are childrens toys made for children. The G1 homage and aesthetic are simply to grab extra dollars from the collectors, but that's all we are, extra. We dont even rank a notch compared to parents buying for kids.

Apparently, fans older than 10 represent 30% of the consumers. Obviously still not the majority but a decent enough chunk that I can see why hasbro actually cared enough to redo those dino casettes, make a seeker 3 pack that no one but a few fans would care about, redo the power dashers ect.

With Masterpieces and multitudes of homages to G1 (I’m counting Siege), I’ll give Hasbro credit for keeping us adult collectors in mind.

emlit wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:

YRQRM0 wrote:Eh, the connectivity pegs are something I think I would've loved as a kid. Doesn't look great, but surely great play value

Hit the nail on the head. I think we as a community (yes, I'm pointing at myself here) forget this a lot.

These are childrens toys made for children. The G1 homage and aesthetic are simply to grab extra dollars from the collectors, but that's all we are, extra. We dont even rank a notch compared to parents buying for kids.

Apparently, fans older than 10 represent 30% of the consumers. Obviously still not the majority but a decent enough chunk that I can see why hasbro actually cared enough to redo those dino casettes, make a seeker 3 pack that no one but a few fans would care about, redo the power dashers ect.

With Masterpieces and multitudes of homages to G1 (I’m counting Siege), I’ll give Hasbro credit for keeping us adult collectors in mind.

Though, Masterpieces are all TakaraTomy's doing.

Sabrblade wrote:

emlit wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:

YRQRM0 wrote:Eh, the connectivity pegs are something I think I would've loved as a kid. Doesn't look great, but surely great play value

Hit the nail on the head. I think we as a community (yes, I'm pointing at myself here) forget this a lot.

These are childrens toys made for children. The G1 homage and aesthetic are simply to grab extra dollars from the collectors, but that's all we are, extra. We dont even rank a notch compared to parents buying for kids.

Apparently, fans older than 10 represent 30% of the consumers. Obviously still not the majority but a decent enough chunk that I can see why hasbro actually cared enough to redo those dino casettes, make a seeker 3 pack that no one but a few fans would care about, redo the power dashers ect.

With Masterpieces and multitudes of homages to G1 (I’m counting Siege), I’ll give Hasbro credit for keeping us adult collectors in mind.

Though, Masterpieces are all TakaraTomy's doing.

Not true. We can thank Hasbro for distribution outside of Japan.

emlit wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

emlit wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:

YRQRM0 wrote:Eh, the connectivity pegs are something I think I would've loved as a kid. Doesn't look great, but surely great play value

Hit the nail on the head. I think we as a community (yes, I'm pointing at myself here) forget this a lot.

These are childrens toys made for children. The G1 homage and aesthetic are simply to grab extra dollars from the collectors, but that's all we are, extra. We dont even rank a notch compared to parents buying for kids.

Apparently, fans older than 10 represent 30% of the consumers. Obviously still not the majority but a decent enough chunk that I can see why hasbro actually cared enough to redo those dino casettes, make a seeker 3 pack that no one but a few fans would care about, redo the power dashers ect.

With Masterpieces and multitudes of homages to G1 (I’m counting Siege), I’ll give Hasbro credit for keeping us adult collectors in mind.

Though, Masterpieces are all TakaraTomy's doing.

Not true. We can thank Hasbro for distribution outside of Japan.

I meant as far as conceiving, designing, and producing them.

Sabrblade wrote:

emlit wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

emlit wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:

YRQRM0 wrote:Eh, the connectivity pegs are something I think I would've loved as a kid. Doesn't look great, but surely great play value

Hit the nail on the head. I think we as a community (yes, I'm pointing at myself here) forget this a lot.

These are childrens toys made for children. The G1 homage and aesthetic are simply to grab extra dollars from the collectors, but that's all we are, extra. We dont even rank a notch compared to parents buying for kids.

Apparently, fans older than 10 represent 30% of the consumers. Obviously still not the majority but a decent enough chunk that I can see why hasbro actually cared enough to redo those dino casettes, make a seeker 3 pack that no one but a few fans would care about, redo the power dashers ect.

With Masterpieces and multitudes of homages to G1 (I’m counting Siege), I’ll give Hasbro credit for keeping us adult collectors in mind.

Though, Masterpieces are all TakaraTomy's doing.

Not true. We can thank Hasbro for distribution outside of Japan.

I meant as far as conceiving, designing, and producing them.

Fair enough. We’re getting a bit off-topic at this point. My original post was simply to support the notion that adult fans are a recognized and supported demographic (regardless of percentage).

Rodimus Knight wrote:So I might be in the minority here, but I think that looks awful. The connectivity thing was just a bad choice IMHO.

just add some 3rd party ramps from shapeways and it will be fine
i mean lots of ramps, to fix this mess

Here's a thought for a crazy (expensive) custom...
Pick 13 of the molds that will connect, give them unifying paint schemes, custom heads and accessories, and you could have the 13 Primes, and by connecting them, you could build Iacon...

Here's a thought for a crazy (expensive) custom...
Pick 13 of the molds that will connect, give them unifying paint schemes, custom heads and accessories, and you could have the 13 Primes, and by connecting them, you could build Iacon...

This looks fun! I wonder how long it took to set up. Pretty massive if it took up an entire pool table. I cannot wait to do this!

joevill wrote:This looks fun! I wonder how long it took to set up. Pretty massive if it took up an entire pool table. I cannot wait to do this!

It took me about 4-5 hours to put all to put all the leaders into base modes from vehicle modes, and the titans into city modes from bot modes, and then figure everything out. I came really close to giving up on trying to fit it on the pool table and nearly moved it to the floor.

Glad I persisted though. I could probably get a better overall layout on the floor, but I would have to clean it up every time I was done wit it. Keeping it on the pool table meant I could leave it up for a while. This weekend my daughter and I will be playing with it, the Botbots will be taking over.

While there are several fans collecting all seekers using the Transformers War for Cybertron Siege voyager tetrajet mold, there have not been many images of all seven seekers together. Getting seven of these in one year has never happened before and the only other seeker molds to have as many (or more) so far is the MP11 mold and the classics mold, both of which took far more than a year to get to 7 characters. With the voyager height favoured amongst collectors as the height for these characters in a classics collection, it's time we took a breather and just looked at what this year accomplished for our Decepticon ranks. Below are the name of the seekers along with where they were available in the US:

Starscream - standard retail release
Thundercracker - standard retail release
Skywarp - part of Amazon exclusive boxset
Redwing - online Target red card exclusive
Nova Storm - part of Target exclusive boxset
Ion Storm - part of Target exclusive boxset
Acid Storm - part of Target exclusive boxset

We thank Sabreblade's contact and TF-fan kev777 for bringing these pictures to our attention. Who else is collecting them all?

Mmmm, mold degradation incoming.

Toyhax has labels and the needed tail fin for 6
With that tail fin the tetrajet looks sooooo much better
I would say the sets are worth it