Transformers War for Cybertron: Earthrise Figures Spotted In UK

They're finally trickling in to my area as well. If anyone wants an Earthrise Prime, I can get if for you at cost plus shipping. Or loose for $45 shipped in the US.

Rodimus Prime wrote:They're finally trickling in to my area as well. If anyone wants an Earthrise Prime, I can get if for you at cost plus shipping. Or loose for $45 shipped in the US.

Can you do just the Optimus figure without the trailer, for ~$25 without the box?

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:They're finally trickling in to my area as well. If anyone wants an Earthrise Prime, I can get if for you at cost plus shipping. Or loose for $45 shipped in the US.

Can you do just the Optimus figure without the trailer, for ~$25 without the box?

Check your PM.

Loving grapple since I shaved down his pegs, wish he wasn't sooo 1984, but I can deal; makes me super hyped to (hopefully) get this guy someday

So, yesterday was the approximate ship date for wave 1 of Earthrise from Pulse. Has anybody heard anything? My 2 remaining pre orders (Starscream and Grapple) are still listed as unfulfilled. Just curious.

Ironhidensh wrote:So, yesterday was the approximate ship date for wave 1 of Earthrise from Pulse. Has anybody heard anything? My 2 remaining pre orders (Starscream and Grapple) are still listed as unfulfilled. Just curious.

I only have Ironworks left on pre-order and the charges on him just went through today. My guess is he will ship tomorrow. I have often gotten the ship nitification from Fedex earlier than the one from Hasbro.

Ironhidensh wrote:So, yesterday was the approximate ship date for wave 1 of Earthrise from Pulse. Has anybody heard anything? My 2 remaining pre orders (Starscream and Grapple) are still listed as unfulfilled. Just curious.

My payment method was charged for Cliffjumper today.

Hellscream9999 wrote:Loving grapple since I shaved down his pegs, wish he wasn't sooo 1984, but I can deal; makes me super hyped to (hopefully) get this guy someday

Nice digibash!

And I imagine it's a treat to have a Grapple with a better crane boom and non-ornamental hands.

aronjlove wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:So, yesterday was the approximate ship date for wave 1 of Earthrise from Pulse. Has anybody heard anything? My 2 remaining pre orders (Starscream and Grapple) are still listed as unfulfilled. Just curious.

My payment method was charged for Cliffjumper today.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:So, yesterday was the approximate ship date for wave 1 of Earthrise from Pulse. Has anybody heard anything? My 2 remaining pre orders (Starscream and Grapple) are still listed as unfulfilled. Just curious.

I only have Ironworks left on pre-order and the charges on him just went through today. My guess is he will ship tomorrow. I have often gotten the ship nitification from Fedex earlier than the one from Hasbro.

Heh. Yeah, literally while I was typing this, my order status changed to paid.

Ironhidensh wrote:So, yesterday was the approximate ship date for wave 1 of Earthrise from Pulse. Has anybody heard anything? My 2 remaining pre orders (Starscream and Grapple) are still listed as unfulfilled. Just curious.

Cant talk for pulse, but it was the same day for amazon canada and they were delivered that day. My new Grapple holds together much better than my previous copy, which turns out was a dud.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Finally Earthrise showed up at my Target. Cliffy and Ironworks were the only ones on the peg. Hoist is their wavemate, correct?

Target also had the Siege battlemasters at 30% off, and they had Singes and Rungs.

Hoist is their wavemate correct.

none of my stores have Earthrise yet, we might be last to get them

Drift082111 wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:If management wants to clear existing shelf stock before selling anything in the back, then there's nothing the associates can do.

You're right. I didn't even think of that. I just need to be patient bc they'll be on shelves in full for months on end before I know it.

Why not just take a bunch of the stuff, stick it in an ottoman or something and go back saying 'there's nothing on the shelves?'

sol magnus wrote:

Drift082111 wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:If management wants to clear existing shelf stock before selling anything in the back, then there's nothing the associates can do.

You're right. I didn't even think of that. I just need to be patient bc they'll be on shelves in full for months on end before I know it.

Why not just take a bunch of the stuff, stick it in an ottoman or something and go back saying 'there's nothing on the shelves?'

That sir, is genius On a similar note, my local Target had the Micromaster minicons out, along with the repack of Smashdown! Very happy to have found him was getting nervous there

sol magnus wrote:

Drift082111 wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:If management wants to clear existing shelf stock before selling anything in the back, then there's nothing the associates can do.

You're right. I didn't even think of that. I just need to be patient bc they'll be on shelves in full for months on end before I know it.

Why not just take a bunch of the stuff, stick it in an ottoman or something and go back saying 'there's nothing on the shelves?'

Because that's an extremely dickish thing to do to the staff, bub.

sol magnus wrote:

Drift082111 wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:If management wants to clear existing shelf stock before selling anything in the back, then there's nothing the associates can do.

You're right. I didn't even think of that. I just need to be patient bc they'll be on shelves in full for months on end before I know it.

Why not just take a bunch of the stuff, stick it in an ottoman or something and go back saying 'there's nothing on the shelves?'

Their inventory system will still show those hidden figures as being present in the store. Probably wouldn’t trigger a reorder; it’d just make more work for the staff.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Drift082111 wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:If management wants to clear existing shelf stock before selling anything in the back, then there's nothing the associates can do.

You're right. I didn't even think of that. I just need to be patient bc they'll be on shelves in full for months on end before I know it.

Why not just take a bunch of the stuff, stick it in an ottoman or something and go back saying 'there's nothing on the shelves?'

Because that's an extremely dickish thing to do to the staff, bub.

Then put the stuff back after you've impelled them to get you the new stuff. It's not rocket science.

And as far as 'dickish,' compared to the crap I've seen from collectors returning figures in wrong packages (sometimes not even Transformers), this half-joking suggestion is on the low end of the 'dickish' spectrum.

And if Target has all this freaking inventory, where was it last year? I can remember going and the aisles were completely empty of Siege figures, just Cyberverse and Studio Series. I've literally seen more Siege in the first two months of this year than I saw the last four or so last year. And it ain't late wave figures. There are freaking Thundercrackers on the shelf, not one but several!

I don't think I'll see much of ER at my local Targets anytime soon. The only things that seemed to move during their sale last week were some battlemasters and a few Shockwaves (at just one Target, the other still has like 6 Shockwaves). The shelves are just as clogged with Megatrons, Thundercrackers and Siege deluxes as they were before the sale.

It doesn't help that half the Targets in my area didn't even put their adds out. Truly a missed opportunity to move some of those Shockwaves. But somehow I managed to still get Prime and Astrotrain.

Hasbro Pulse just put up Earthrise Astrotrain, and the Hot Rod and Millitary Patrols. No signs of the battle masters yet.

https://hasbropulse.com/collections/tra ... astrotrain

https://hasbropulse.com/collections/tra ... ary-patrol

https://hasbropulse.com/collections/tra ... rod-patrol

So...with Presumably Both Astrotrains in stock at the same time...I wonder if someone could complain if they got the *wrong* one , . I guess it depends. I don't generally keep packaging except for some Titans or any TT toys I get, or exclusives, but I do keep instructions. Siege Astrotrains have Siege instructions. Earthrise has Earthrise, plus a nifty little map and decoder...

Sunstreaker looks like a different mold than Wheeljack. the designs for everything looks different.

Greetings all. We have confirmation that an unexpected retailer is joining in on selling Transformers Earthrise product! Yours truly found Earthrise Starscream sitting on the shelf all by his lonesome at a Best Buy in Oklahoma City, OK. Best Buy is no stranger to selling toys as they have had a small toy section in most stores for sometime now since the death of Toys R Us here in the states, but most of the product that would be appealing to collectors has been limited to Hasbro's Marvel Legends and Star Wars Black Series lines. Cyberverse has made a presence on Best Buy's shelves but that line is geared toward a younger audience. The new War for Cybertron: Siege line directed at the adult collecting community has been left out until just recently.

Best Buy has price tags on the shelves not just for Voyagers but for other class sizes as well such as Leader class, all priced to match if you were to buy the figures at Target or Walmart. Best Buy also has a selection of Earthrise figures available on their website as well, including Titan Scorponok for $149.99! Time to get out there and start checking your local Best Buys on your hunt run folks!

Do you make frequent stops at Best Buy? Are you excited you can now check out their toy section for Transformers Earthrise? Let us know in the comments down below and keep it tuned to Seibertron.com for all your Transformers needs!

I walked into a Best Buy for probably the first time in over a year last week to purchase a PS4 game, that oddly enough wasn't available anywhere else. I did see some Cyberverse toys, but nothing of interest. Still knowing they may have a small selection of Earthrise is encouraging.

I've seen other generations figures at Fry's Electronics in the past as well, just FYI, not sure about current ones, may have to take a trip out there just to see.

Stopped by local Best Buy here in Central New York state and they had nothing. Maybe in stock later this week.

I guess they figured out they were stocking the wrong Transformers last year. It was strange seeing Cyberverse stocked next to more collector friendly lines last year, it really seemed like the wrong demographic they prefer to cater to. Especially when they're competing with Game Stop who is getting Siege and Studio Series and even some exclusives.

Emerje

I got my claws on OP and it is indeed a cool figure. What I'm getting a kick out of is this so called Leader figure almost scales with Voyager Henkei OP. The Fansproject trailer totally dwarfs Earthrise OP trailer.

I ordered mine online and got em today. I grabbed wheeljack, ironworks and cliff

Nemesis Destron wrote:I got my claws on OP and it is indeed a cool figure. What I'm getting a kick out of is this so called Leader figure almost scales with Voyager Henkei OP. The Fansproject trailer totally dwarfs Earthrise OP trailer.

I mean, it's not like this figure being as tall as Voyager Classics/etc. Optimus is particularly indicative of size-class shrinkage or anything, considering the trailer is part of the mass and cost that makes it a Leader, and the figure itself is as tall as the Voyager Optimus we got in Siege, which means that Voyager is still as tall as a Voyager from 2006. And how much did the Fansproject trailer cost on release?

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

Nemesis Destron wrote:I got my claws on OP and it is indeed a cool figure. What I'm getting a kick out of is this so called Leader figure almost scales with Voyager Henkei OP. The Fansproject trailer totally dwarfs Earthrise OP trailer.

I mean, it's not like this figure being as tall as Voyager Classics/etc. Optimus is particularly indicative of size-class shrinkage or anything, considering the trailer is part of the mass and cost that makes it a Leader, and the figure itself is as tall as the Voyager Optimus we got in Siege, which means that Voyager is still as tall as a Voyager from 2006. And how much did the Fansproject trailer cost on release?

$80-$100 for their trailer.

ER Optimus has quite a lot going on in his transformation. A good chuck of his leader cost goes into his engineering, he’s more complex than his siege predecessor. It’s not about height. I’d rather have what we’re getting than the hallow, bare minimum articulated leaders we used to get.

Randomhero wrote:

Jeddostotle7 wrote:

Nemesis Destron wrote:I got my claws on OP and it is indeed a cool figure. What I'm getting a kick out of is this so called Leader figure almost scales with Voyager Henkei OP. The Fansproject trailer totally dwarfs Earthrise OP trailer.

I mean, it's not like this figure being as tall as Voyager Classics/etc. Optimus is particularly indicative of size-class shrinkage or anything, considering the trailer is part of the mass and cost that makes it a Leader, and the figure itself is as tall as the Voyager Optimus we got in Siege, which means that Voyager is still as tall as a Voyager from 2006. And how much did the Fansproject trailer cost on release?

$80-$100 for their trailer.

ER Optimus has quite a lot going on in his transformation. A good chuck of his leader cost goes into his engineering, he’s more complex than his siege predecessor. It’s not about height. I’d rather have what we’re getting than the hallow, bare minimum articulated leaders we used to get.

I agree! Not to mention "out-of-scale" Leader Class figures. Shockwave is the only one that I feel like we didn't get our bang for the buck, which I think is evident by how this figure shelf warms everywhere.

And thanks to this news story, I grabbed Optimus Prime at the Best Buy in Schaumburg, IL literally as the guy brought it to the aisle. It was like he knew I was coming and brought it out for me. Easiest toy hunting in a LONG time.

Speaking of Optimus, we've been getting multiple Optimus Prime figures at retail in each line over the last few years (except form PotP, but that line was a Prime overload), what do you think the second Optimus will be in Earthrise? I'd like to see something like a Voyager G2 Hero Prime since it's long overdue and Megatron is getting his third G2 tank repaint in the last few years (Optimus has the PotP G2 box set repaint and much older 2011 mold and it's repaint), or even G2 Go Bot Prime since it's been a long time since we've gotten a Deluxe Optimus.




The Go-Bot version would probably need the colors reworked to be more Prime-like, but could be a potential Sunstreaker repaint.

Then there's Machine Wars OP, I think most of us realize the repaint value of this guy. Probably just be a trailerless Voyager.



But what about something that hasn't had a toy before? I'm pretty partial to this Marvel design.



Emerje

I brought up in the other thread that that pre-Earth version of Prime should have been in Siege. It won't be in Earthrise, because it's a Cybertronian form, but it would have been nice to finally see it, even as an exclusive. But maybe it's just too obscure, it only appeared in 1 issue and for only a few panels.

I'm ready for an rid'01 optimus update

I'd like to see an Armada and an IDW Optimus, but those aren't going to happen anytime soon. A new Hero OP wouldn't surprise me, and I think they will eventually do another version of Laser Prime. I think they would want to make Laser Prime a leader class though, so they can include his trailer, so I doubt it will happen in ER.

Hellscream9999 wrote:I'm ready for an rid'01 optimus update

I'm still happy with my original. Otherwise, I would have bought the Encore (before we all found out about that reissue's Q&A problems).

I am so glad the trailer came bare bones, so I could add all that I wanted to add to it myself. It maybe a little on the short side, but I'd rather see long trailers on the movie verse toys. This is ok by my standards. Amazing toy.

Hellscream9999 wrote:I'm ready for an rid'01 optimus update

He doesn't need an update, he just needs a competent reissue. He's already designed to a good standard, and an update would be severely watered-down unless it was Commander-class (and even then it might have issues).

The RID (2001) molds that need updates are the Autobot Brothers, since the original molds are kaput. Of course, they'd probably have to be Voyagers or a boxset to be on par with or surpass the originals.

Tuned Agent wrote:I'd like to see an Armada and an IDW Optimus, but those aren't going to happen anytime soon. A new Hero OP wouldn't surprise me, and I think they will eventually do another version of Laser Prime. I think they would want to make Laser Prime a leader class though, so they can include his trailer, so I doubt it will happen in ER.

Well, Takara is working on a new Armada Optimus. A really fancy one, even.
They did a new Laser Rod Optimus Prime during Titans Return, not sure how soon they'd repeat that. And Laser Prime is another one where a reissue would be good.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:I'm ready for an rid'01 optimus update

He doesn't need an update, he just needs a competent reissue. He's already designed to a good standard, and an update would be severely watered-down unless it was Commander-class (and even then it might have issues).

Lack of thigh swivels aside I'd agree, he has aged very gracefully. Poor Ultra Magnus, however...

The RID (2001) molds that need updates are the Autobot Brothers, since the original molds are kaput. Of course, they'd probably have to be Voyagers or a boxset to be on par with or surpass the originals.

I honestly don't think you could update the Car Brothers without losing what made them cool, given they were essentially Beast Wars toys that turned into cars. And given their poseability rivals modern figures, I don't think a straight update would do them justice. Seeing them re-imagined into the current design aesthetic would be cool, admittedly, but at the same time I'd rather just get the originals.

Tuned Agent wrote:I'd like to see an Armada and an IDW Optimus, but those aren't going to happen anytime soon. A new Hero OP wouldn't surprise me, and I think they will eventually do another version of Laser Prime. I think they would want to make Laser Prime a leader class though, so they can include his trailer, so I doubt it will happen in ER.

Well, Takara is working on a new Armada Optimus. A really fancy one, even.

Let's just hope that actually comes out, it's been a while.

They did a new Laser Rod Optimus Prime during Titans Return, not sure how soon they'd repeat that. And Laser Prime is another one where a reissue would be good.

Eh, the TR Laser Prime wasn't great, the "jet mode" was weak (even for the Octane version), it had horrible stickers and overall didn't quite capture the essence of the original figure. Plus it was a Headmaster, which may or may not bother some. Ironically, I actually feel the old RTS figure did a better job as an update (aside from being too small).

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Tuned Agent wrote:I'd like to see an Armada and an IDW Optimus, but those aren't going to happen anytime soon. A new Hero OP wouldn't surprise me, and I think they will eventually do another version of Laser Prime. I think they would want to make Laser Prime a leader class though, so they can include his trailer, so I doubt it will happen in ER.

Well, Takara is working on a new Armada Optimus. A really fancy one, even.
They did a new Laser Rod Optimus Prime during Titans Return, not sure how soon they'd repeat that. And Laser Prime is another one where a reissue would be good.

Didn't Takara recently say that that Armada Optimus was just a prototype they made to gauge interest, and that it was not confirmed to ever be produced? Plus, even if it is produced, it would likely cost in excess of $60, probably higher. I'd like to see something released at standard retail.

As for whether they would make a new Laser Prime only a few years after Titans Return, the fact that we got G1 cartoon Primes in both PotP and Siege didn't stop us from getting yet another in Earthrise. Plus, a leader class Laser Prime would be able to have a separate trailer, and not be exclusive to a box set.

Tuned Agent wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Tuned Agent wrote:I'd like to see an Armada and an IDW Optimus, but those aren't going to happen anytime soon. A new Hero OP wouldn't surprise me, and I think they will eventually do another version of Laser Prime. I think they would want to make Laser Prime a leader class though, so they can include his trailer, so I doubt it will happen in ER.

Well, Takara is working on a new Armada Optimus. A really fancy one, even.
They did a new Laser Rod Optimus Prime during Titans Return, not sure how soon they'd repeat that. And Laser Prime is another one where a reissue would be good.

Didn't Takara recently say that that Armada Optimus was just a prototype they made to gauge interest, and that it was not confirmed to ever be produced? Plus, even if it is produced, it would likely cost in excess of $60, probably higher. I'd like to see something released at standard retail.

As for whether they would make a new Laser Prime only a few years after Titans Return, the fact that we got G1 cartoon Primes in both PotP and Siege didn't stop us from getting yet another in Earthrise. Plus, a leader class Laser Prime would be able to have a separate trailer, and not be exclusive to a box set.

1. Takara may have said that about that Armada Optimus, but I hadn't heard about it yet. And yes, it would cost in excess of that - and be worth it if they pulled it off. I don't think a standard retail rehash of Armada Optimus would end up terribly exciting.
2. For one thing, that's cartoon Prime. For another, the PotP version is an OS mess that's mainly good for Orion Pax and the cartoon-color Matrix. For a third, the Optimus version of the TR Octane mold was available at retail too. It didn't have the Laser Rod deco, true, but the same features are there.
3. A Gen. Leader Laser Rod Optimus would be alright, I suppose. Wouldn't be as watered-down as some others. But Iunno how I feel about a slot going to it in this trilogy.

G1OptimusPAX wrote:I am so glad the trailer came bare bones, so I could add all that I wanted to add to it myself. It maybe a little on the short side, but I'd rather see long trailers on the movie verse toys. This is ok by my standards. Amazing toy.

I love all the 5mm ports inside, definitely customizable!

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Tuned Agent wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Tuned Agent wrote:I'd like to see an Armada and an IDW Optimus, but those aren't going to happen anytime soon. A new Hero OP wouldn't surprise me, and I think they will eventually do another version of Laser Prime. I think they would want to make Laser Prime a leader class though, so they can include his trailer, so I doubt it will happen in ER.

Well, Takara is working on a new Armada Optimus. A really fancy one, even.
They did a new Laser Rod Optimus Prime during Titans Return, not sure how soon they'd repeat that. And Laser Prime is another one where a reissue would be good.

Didn't Takara recently say that that Armada Optimus was just a prototype they made to gauge interest, and that it was not confirmed to ever be produced? Plus, even if it is produced, it would likely cost in excess of $60, probably higher. I'd like to see something released at standard retail.

As for whether they would make a new Laser Prime only a few years after Titans Return, the fact that we got G1 cartoon Primes in both PotP and Siege didn't stop us from getting yet another in Earthrise. Plus, a leader class Laser Prime would be able to have a separate trailer, and not be exclusive to a box set.

1. Takara may have said that about that Armada Optimus, but I hadn't heard about it yet. And yes, it would cost in excess of that - and be worth it if they pulled it off. I don't think a standard retail rehash of Armada Optimus would end up terribly exciting.
2. For one thing, that's cartoon Prime. For another, the PotP version is an OS mess that's mainly good for Orion Pax and the cartoon-color Matrix. For a third, the Optimus version of the TR Octane mold was available at retail too. It didn't have the Laser Rod deco, true, but the same features are there.
3. A Gen. Leader Laser Rod Optimus would be alright, I suppose. Wouldn't be as watered-down as some others. But Iunno how I feel about a slot going to it in this trilogy.

How good a standard retail Armada Optimus would be would really depend on how they do it. A voyager might come close in parts count, but I'm not sure it would have the necessary mass (Armada Optimus is a chunky boy, especially when you add his gun). However, at leader class they could just release a finished version of Takara's prototype, with a new Sparkplug, a removable matrix, and maybe even some extra weapons, for less than what it would cost if it were just produced by Takara.

You're right about the regular TR voyager Prime, but he doesn't have the trademark deco (which, IMO, is the main reason he's cool). My point about all the G1 Primes still stands though - they aren't afraid to rehash the same thing year after year, so the few years in between TR and now doesn't really mean much. And a leader class Laser Prime wouldn't be my first choice either, but it seems to be mandated that there be a leader class Optimus in every line, and Laser Prime is more likely than most.

Tuned Agent wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Tuned Agent wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Tuned Agent wrote:I'd like to see an Armada and an IDW Optimus, but those aren't going to happen anytime soon. A new Hero OP wouldn't surprise me, and I think they will eventually do another version of Laser Prime. I think they would want to make Laser Prime a leader class though, so they can include his trailer, so I doubt it will happen in ER.

Well, Takara is working on a new Armada Optimus. A really fancy one, even.
They did a new Laser Rod Optimus Prime during Titans Return, not sure how soon they'd repeat that. And Laser Prime is another one where a reissue would be good.

Didn't Takara recently say that that Armada Optimus was just a prototype they made to gauge interest, and that it was not confirmed to ever be produced? Plus, even if it is produced, it would likely cost in excess of $60, probably higher. I'd like to see something released at standard retail.

As for whether they would make a new Laser Prime only a few years after Titans Return, the fact that we got G1 cartoon Primes in both PotP and Siege didn't stop us from getting yet another in Earthrise. Plus, a leader class Laser Prime would be able to have a separate trailer, and not be exclusive to a box set.

1. Takara may have said that about that Armada Optimus, but I hadn't heard about it yet. And yes, it would cost in excess of that - and be worth it if they pulled it off. I don't think a standard retail rehash of Armada Optimus would end up terribly exciting.
2. For one thing, that's cartoon Prime. For another, the PotP version is an OS mess that's mainly good for Orion Pax and the cartoon-color Matrix. For a third, the Optimus version of the TR Octane mold was available at retail too. It didn't have the Laser Rod deco, true, but the same features are there.
3. A Gen. Leader Laser Rod Optimus would be alright, I suppose. Wouldn't be as watered-down as some others. But Iunno how I feel about a slot going to it in this trilogy.

How good a standard retail Armada Optimus would be would really depend on how they do it. A voyager might come close in parts count, but I'm not sure it would have the necessary mass (Armada Optimus is a chunky boy, especially when you add his gun). However, at leader class they could just release a finished version of Takara's prototype, with a new Sparkplug, a removable matrix, and maybe even some extra weapons, for less than what it would cost if it were just produced by Takara.

Okay, so what you're picturing is essentially "Bendy Prime Redux". I was picturing the complete Armada Optimus package:

Hence my "it would be worth it if they pulled it off" comment about the Takara prototype, and why I didn't think a retail Leader version would be terribly exciting.

Tuned Agent wrote:You're right about the regular TR voyager Prime, but he doesn't have the trademark deco (which, IMO, is the main reason he's cool). My point about all the G1 Primes still stands though - they aren't afraid to rehash the same thing year after year, so the few years in between TR and now doesn't really mean much. And a leader class Laser Prime wouldn't be my first choice either, but it seems to be mandated that there be a leader class Optimus in every line, and Laser Prime is more likely than most.

They aren't afraid to rehash cartoon Optimus, certainly. Other versions of him are a less-certain matter.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Tuned Agent wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Tuned Agent wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Tuned Agent wrote:I'd like to see an Armada and an IDW Optimus, but those aren't going to happen anytime soon. A new Hero OP wouldn't surprise me, and I think they will eventually do another version of Laser Prime. I think they would want to make Laser Prime a leader class though, so they can include his trailer, so I doubt it will happen in ER.

Well, Takara is working on a new Armada Optimus. A really fancy one, even.
They did a new Laser Rod Optimus Prime during Titans Return, not sure how soon they'd repeat that. And Laser Prime is another one where a reissue would be good.

Didn't Takara recently say that that Armada Optimus was just a prototype they made to gauge interest, and that it was not confirmed to ever be produced? Plus, even if it is produced, it would likely cost in excess of $60, probably higher. I'd like to see something released at standard retail.

As for whether they would make a new Laser Prime only a few years after Titans Return, the fact that we got G1 cartoon Primes in both PotP and Siege didn't stop us from getting yet another in Earthrise. Plus, a leader class Laser Prime would be able to have a separate trailer, and not be exclusive to a box set.

1. Takara may have said that about that Armada Optimus, but I hadn't heard about it yet. And yes, it would cost in excess of that - and be worth it if they pulled it off. I don't think a standard retail rehash of Armada Optimus would end up terribly exciting.
2. For one thing, that's cartoon Prime. For another, the PotP version is an OS mess that's mainly good for Orion Pax and the cartoon-color Matrix. For a third, the Optimus version of the TR Octane mold was available at retail too. It didn't have the Laser Rod deco, true, but the same features are there.
3. A Gen. Leader Laser Rod Optimus would be alright, I suppose. Wouldn't be as watered-down as some others. But Iunno how I feel about a slot going to it in this trilogy.

How good a standard retail Armada Optimus would be would really depend on how they do it. A voyager might come close in parts count, but I'm not sure it would have the necessary mass (Armada Optimus is a chunky boy, especially when you add his gun). However, at leader class they could just release a finished version of Takara's prototype, with a new Sparkplug, a removable matrix, and maybe even some extra weapons, for less than what it would cost if it were just produced by Takara.

Okay, so what you're picturing is essentially "Bendy Prime Redux". I was picturing the complete Armada Optimus package:
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Hence my "it would be worth it if they pulled it off" comment about the Takara prototype, and why I didn't think a retail Leader version would be terribly exciting.

Tuned Agent wrote:You're right about the regular TR voyager Prime, but he doesn't have the trademark deco (which, IMO, is the main reason he's cool). My point about all the G1 Primes still stands though - they aren't afraid to rehash the same thing year after year, so the few years in between TR and now doesn't really mean much. And a leader class Laser Prime wouldn't be my first choice either, but it seems to be mandated that there be a leader class Optimus in every line, and Laser Prime is more likely than most.

They aren't afraid to rehash cartoon Optimus, certainly. Other versions of him are a less-certain matter.

Ah, I see what you mean. Yeah, I was picturing a trailer-less Prime, as doing one with a trailer would be hard outside of commander class. I was still factoring in the combining gimmick though, possibly for pairing with some concurrently released Jetfire pants. Without the need to combine, he could easily be done as a voyager, but that's just a half measure. And to be fair, we have no idea if Takara's Prime would include a trailer, or if he has the combined mode to go with a later Jetfire.

And I agree that cartoon Prime gets rehashed because he's a safe bet, but they can't keep rehashing him forever.


...right?

I would really like to see a new RiD2001 styled Optimus Prime toy, or a new Armada one. Give us a different design/aesthetic/look please!

What they could do is a pair of Voyagers: Armada Prime and Armada Jetfire. They combine. Maybe add in a Voyager or Leader Overload. Bonus point if this is in a CHUG line with a combining gimmick (but not Scramble city style, of course).

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I would really like to see a new RiD2001 styled Optimus Prime toy, or a new Armada one. Give us a different design/aesthetic/look please!

Well, we got a watered-down Cybertron Optimus, does that count?

You know what I would like to see instead of a watered-down version of an old Super Optimus? Either a break from Optimus Prime toys (aside from special versions of ER Optimus), especially big ones, for a bit... Or for the next big Optimus to veer off the G1 aesthetic in a big way and be the Season 4 Animated Optimus we were robbed of.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I would really like to see a new RiD2001 styled Optimus Prime toy, or a new Armada one. Give us a different design/aesthetic/look please!

Well, we got a watered-down Cybertron Optimus, does that count?

Technically yes. I don't have him but ignoring the different transformation he's a nice update for people who can't find or afford the old one, but to me its one crippling weakness is that the smaller robot head is GEEWUN and not the open mouthplate of Galaxy Convoy.

Skritz wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I would really like to see a new RiD2001 styled Optimus Prime toy, or a new Armada one. Give us a different design/aesthetic/look please!

Well, we got a watered-down Cybertron Optimus, does that count?

Technically yes.

And Takara paid homage to Energon Optimus in their Unite Warriors Convoy Grand Prime set.