Transformers United Grapple's Orange Head Revealed- More Collecting Choices

nemesis_saber wrote:wtf? i was expecting united grapple's head to be orange/yellow like in the cartoon. tsk tsk.

nemesis_saber wrote:earlier photos of united grapple showed him with a black head, then i complained in that thread:

nemesis_saber wrote:wtf? i was expecting united grapple's head to be orange/yellow like in the cartoon. tsk tsk.

and now we have this

somebody in takaratomy must have been reading these posts. that's nice

Flux Convoy wrote:Unsure where I stand on this. I may end up getting both and doing a headswap.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Never understood the 'cartoon accuracy' on stuff like this when in a lot of the cases the toys looked much better (ok I'm not including the Ratchet and Ironhide, almost typed Clank there, toys though I never cared for their cartoon selves either) and the cartoon was notorious for errors. The black head looks a lot better but this figure overall looks very poor anyways. That original G1 toy looks far better, if only it were more articulated.

kirbenvost wrote:

Flux Convoy wrote:Unsure where I stand on this. I may end up getting both and doing a headswap.

Why? They're virtually identical except for the head and silver hook.

I do have to say the yellow head helps him look just that little bit more different from Inferno, but to be honest I prefer the G1 toy look, and I don't collect Grapples anyway.

Flux Convoy wrote:

kirbenvost wrote:

Flux Convoy wrote:Unsure where I stand on this. I may end up getting both and doing a headswap.

Why? They're virtually identical except for the head and silver hook.

I do have to say the yellow head helps him look just that little bit more different from Inferno, but to be honest I prefer the G1 toy look, and I don't collect Grapples anyway.

Because the subtle differences (chrome hook, actual faction symbol and not rub) make me prefer the United version more. I simply like the Hasbro head opposed to the orange one. ....Aaand I'm not completely logical when it comes to collecting these here robot things. I don't specifically collect Grapples either but I do collect G1 and Classics per my own standards and both versions fit Classics in their way IMO.

kirbenvost wrote:I also don't quite understand everyone's distaste for the rubsigns. In Classics, everyone was praising them, now it's the opposite.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

kirbenvost wrote:I also don't quite understand everyone's distaste for the rubsigns. In Classics, everyone was praising them, now it's the opposite.

It's called "gimmick fatigue" or "we've-already-seen-that-show-us-something-new" syndrome

Flux Convoy wrote:I have reasons, I have no delusion that they're good ones though. Don't get me wrong, I adore rub symbols. For characters who never had rub symbols anywhere though, not so much. I'd rather have a faction symbol for Grapple, Jazz and so on. Tracks, I get. He had a rub symbol on his car roof/robot chest. For the original G1 mini-guys getting homages, rub symbols make perfect sense for any of those to me. They hit that sweet spot in the marketing for them originally where you could have gotten either. Each is a case by case basis though and I'm fickle (mostly just ridiculous) sometimes.

kirbenvost wrote:

Flux Convoy wrote:I have reasons, I have no delusion that they're good ones though. Don't get me wrong, I adore rub symbols. For characters who never had rub symbols anywhere though, not so much. I'd rather have a faction symbol for Grapple, Jazz and so on. Tracks, I get. He had a rub symbol on his car roof/robot chest. For the original G1 mini-guys getting homages, rub symbols make perfect sense for any of those to me. They hit that sweet spot in the marketing for them originally where you could have gotten either. Each is a case by case basis though and I'm fickle (mostly just ridiculous) sometimes.

It's cool, I have my own reasons for things too. For example, I'm not getting HFTD Terradive...even though it's a pretty great-looking mold, I don't like the head. Tomahawk looks really good, but has no recognizable G1 homage, so do I get him? Do I not? I DON'T KNOW! And then I got Henkei Ironhide mostly because I hated the Universe version's blue face, even though the overall color scheme was better IMO...etc, etc. I get you. Totally makes sense about the rubsigns though, thinking about it that way.

GuyIncognito wrote:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Never understood the 'cartoon accuracy' on stuff like this when in a lot of the cases the toys looked much better (ok I'm not including the Ratchet and Ironhide, almost typed Clank there, toys though I never cared for their cartoon selves either) and the cartoon was notorious for errors. The black head looks a lot better but this figure overall looks very poor anyways. That original G1 toy looks far better, if only it were more articulated.

I totally agree! With more recent series, like Animated, I can understand wanting cartoon accuracy. But when it comes to G1, the toys came first, and the cartoons were created to serve the toys. If there's a difference, it's the cartoon that was incorrectly colored. So if I'm going to buy a toy that's an homage to a G1 toy, I want the homage to match the original toy, not the inaccurate adver-cartoon.