Transformers Unite Warriors Computron Teaser

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:[center]

It looks like someone's got new guns as well if you look at the guns attached to his thighs. Assuming Computron gets a proper face/head, kudos to Takara!

Don't forget to check out Betatron and Scattershot's galleries also! Because I know how much everyone wanted to see Betatron!!!

Generations Combiner Wars Scattershot














Generations Combiner Wars Betatron

Seibertron wrote:It looks like someone's got new guns as well if you look at the guns attached to his thighs. Assuming Computron gets a proper face/head, kudos to Takara!

I think someone did mention that those look like big Groove's guns on his legs.

My only comment on this at this junction is simply, what's up with that lone wheel on afterburner in arm mode!

*just a guess* if you look at pics of UW Groove...though he is a leg for Defensor in most pics, if you choose to use him as an Arm, I think it will make more sense.

I've been thinking about it and I'll probably get both, keep the limbs I like and sell off the others.

steals_your_goats wrote:I've been thinking about it and I'll probably get both, keep the limbs I like and sell off the others.

Agreed.

Sigma Magnus wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:I've been thinking about it and I'll probably get both, keep the limbs I like and sell off the others.

Agreed.

Unfortunately I probably won't make much money back. Strafe and Nosecone will probably be different enough for my brain to convince me to keep both versions

steals_your_goats wrote:

Sigma Magnus wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:I've been thinking about it and I'll probably get both, keep the limbs I like and sell off the others.

Agreed.

Unfortunately I probably won't make much money back. Strafe and Nosecone will probably be different enough for my brain to convince me to keep both versions

True...now that I think about it, I'll probably just display the best limbs as the gestalt and the best 'bots as the team.

ZeroWolf wrote:My only comment on this at this junction is simply, what's up with that lone wheel on afterburner in arm mode!

The rear wheel splits into two and rests on the forearm.

That Bot wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:My only comment on this at this junction is simply, what's up with that lone wheel on afterburner in arm mode!

The rear wheel splits into two and rests on the forearm.

That, and the front of the cycle is mistransformed - of course

I really need to see the complete image of this. I definitely prefer the Wheeljack design as Lightspeed, but I have doubts that Blast-Off will make a better Strafe than what Hasbro is using. The same goes for Rook-as-Nosecone if that turns out to be true. Also, we have to give up the new appendages and Scrounge.

Randomus wrote:I really need to see the complete image of this. I definitely prefer the Wheeljack design as Lightspeed, but I have doubts that Blast-Off will make a better Strafe than what Hasbro is using. The same goes for Rook-as-Nosecone if that turns out to be true. Also, we have to give up the new appendages and Scrounge.

Yup, probably your one and only chance to get Scrounge

Hellscream9999 wrote:

That Bot wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:My only comment on this at this junction is simply, what's up with that lone wheel on afterburner in arm mode!

The rear wheel splits into two and rests on the forearm.

That, and the front of the cycle is mistransformed - of course

I thought it was just Takara trying to get the G1 look with the wheel up on the side:

It think Will is right. mistransformations to allow for that sort of thing would definitely be Takara's thing

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:It think Will is right. mistransformations to allow for that sort of thing would definitely be Takara's thing

Just answering the guys question, as it does indeed look weird that way - a little too 'out in the middle of no where', it's almost in space

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:It think Will is right. mistransformations to allow for that sort of thing would definitely be Takara's thing

Just answering the guys question, as it does indeed look weird that way - a little too 'out in the middle of no where', it's almost in space

Yes but I wouldnt call it mistransformed. Its what Takara has chosen as their official transformation.

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:It think Will is right. mistransformations to allow for that sort of thing would definitely be Takara's thing

Just answering the guys question, as it does indeed look weird that way - a little too 'out in the middle of no where', it's almost in space

Yes but I wouldnt call it mistransformed. Its what Takara has chosen as their official transformation.

Well, I didn't put 2 & 2 together, just haven't seen much of comps to know that

Hence the choice/option to secure the Hb version of Computron. No biggie. Computicon might(?) have a new head (maybe a 90% probability given that TT actually designed new molds for Groove and Blastoff), a new weapon (?) etc. Not sure if the new fists and feet in Hb will be incorporated into this.

So the way I see it, both Computrons have something unique to offer:

Hasbro
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Scattershot w/ proper color scheme
Scronge as a bonus figure
American release of the Groove mold
Dedicated hands and feet

Takara
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New Computron head
New combiner gun
Different molds for Lightspeed, Nosecone, and Strafe


The way I see it, I'll go with Hasbro on this one. I can live with Computron's head not being retooled if it means he gets ankle tilts.

(Unless you buy both and you mix and match)

Yeah, I'm probably going to be getting both versions. I don't even plan to sell off any of them either.

I think I might try to use Takara Lightspeed as Sideswipe assuming it is made from Wheeljack/Breakdown. That might mean a "less accurate" looking Lightspeed using Hasbro's version though. However I'd rather a Sideswipe that looks similar to Sunstreaker and my soon to be Tigertrack than I want a slightly better looking Lightspeed.

I might go with Hasbro's Strafe as I really like the look of it so far and I like the Scrounge integration.

I might go with Takara's Nosecone as even just from that silhouette, it looks amazing.

Unless there's something that we're not seeing, there isn't (and probably won't) be much of a difference between the Afterburners. So I'll have to wait to see more of each to decide.

Again, unless there's something more than just the head and weapon that we're not seeing, I'll have to see more of these two new Scattershots to make a decision on which to use. I know for sure that the current single retail Scattershot will NOT be my Computron Scattershot. That doesn't mean that I don't still want it to complete Betatron though as I'll obviously have extra limbs around.

For Takara Strafe and Hasbro Nosecone I might use them and a repainted Smokescreen (or the second Lightspeed if I don't use it as Sideswipe) as the Powerdashers. Because they need some love too.

If there's nothing I can do with the second Afterburner or the third Scattershot then I'll probably just keep them in the boxes as I would hate breaking up either set and the slight monetary return in selling them wouldn't really be worth it in the long run. I'm sure I can find something to do with at least Afterburner by digging up some Transformer who needs either an update or a figure in general.

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:It think Will is right. mistransformations to allow for that sort of thing would definitely be Takara's thing

Just answering the guys question, as it does indeed look weird that way - a little too 'out in the middle of no where', it's almost in space

Yes but I wouldnt call it mistransformed. Its what Takara has chosen as their official transformation.

Official transformation or not it still looks weird and wrong to my eyes

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Convoy Grand Prime consist of Transformers Unite Warriors Optimus Prime, Ironhide, Mirage, Prowl and Sunstreaker and the full gallery can be viewed here.


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Alpha Weltall wrote:I know for sure that the current single retail Scattershot will NOT be my Computron Scattershot. That doesn't mean that I don't still want it to complete Betatron though as I'll obviously have extra limbs around.

Why cant Betatron be made using Takara's Scatershot instead of the retail one? Judging from the trend of takara going for toon accuracy, he will probably look a lot like the chest deco on hasbro's.

carytheone wrote:Do you like Transformers stop motion videos? Good, because fellow Seibertronian Madeus Prime has alerted us to a video that YouTuber youheidx has posted of Transformers Unite Warriors UW-05 Convoy Grand Prime. Which you may already know is Takara's release of Transformers Combiner Wars Ultra Prime

Cool little video. Subscribed. Cant wait to watch a few more

o.supreme wrote:

carytheone wrote:Do you like Transformers stop motion videos? Good, because fellow Seibertronian Madeus Prime has alerted us to a video that YouTuber youheidx has posted of Transformers Unite Warriors UW-05 Convoy Grand Prime. Which you may already know is Takara's release of Transformers Combiner Wars Ultra Prime

Cool little video. Subscribed. Cant wait to watch a few more

He's got some really good ones, dig around a bit. When you get done with that channel, check out this one: https://www.youtube.com/user/harrisloureiro

william-james88 wrote:

Alpha Weltall wrote:I know for sure that the current single retail Scattershot will NOT be my Computron Scattershot. That doesn't mean that I don't still want it to complete Betatron though as I'll obviously have extra limbs around.

Why cant Betatron be made using Takara's Scatershot instead of the retail one? Judging from the trend of takara going for toon accuracy, he will probably look a lot like the chest deco on hasbro's.

Because Hasbro and TakaraTomy have gone independent at this point with the Combiner Wars/Unite Warriors lines? No communication between the two about their plans it seems.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Because Hasbro and TakaraTomy have gone independent at this point with the Combiner Wars/Unite Warriors lines? No communication between the two about their plans it seems.

Your new avatar is freaking me out Jelze. Its like the Navi decided to join Gem and the Holograms.

william-james88 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Because Hasbro and TakaraTomy have gone independent at this point with the Combiner Wars/Unite Warriors lines? No communication between the two about their plans it seems.

Your new avatar is freaking me out Jelze. Its like the Navi decided to join Gem and the Holograms.

Agreed.

So do we know if we will see a Takara Sky Lynx?

Nemesis Destron wrote:So do we know if we will see a Takara Sky Lynx?

At this time, we do not.

Nemesis Destron wrote:So do we know if we will see a Takara Sky Lynx?

Hopefully sometime, but so far negatory

Autobot N wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Because Hasbro and TakaraTomy have gone independent at this point with the Combiner Wars/Unite Warriors lines? No communication between the two about their plans it seems.

Your new avatar is freaking me out Jelze. Its like the Navi decided to join Gem and the Holograms.

Agreed.

It's one of my older pics from IMVU, somehow the board crash (which I completely missed thanks to a road trip) knocked out my previous pic and reverted it to this one. I don't have it on hand on this computer so I'll have to make a new one.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:

Nemesis Destron wrote:So do we know if we will see a Takara Sky Lynx?

Hopefully sometime, but so far negatory

Youheidx (from the stop motion video earlier in the thread) has already gone ahead and imported the Hasbro version for his next video, that should tell you how much faith he has in the prospect.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Alpha Weltall wrote:I know for sure that the current single retail Scattershot will NOT be my Computron Scattershot. That doesn't mean that I don't still want it to complete Betatron though as I'll obviously have extra limbs around.

Why cant Betatron be made using Takara's Scatershot instead of the retail one? Judging from the trend of takara going for toon accuracy, he will probably look a lot like the chest deco on hasbro's.

Because Hasbro and TakaraTomy have gone independent at this point with the Combiner Wars/Unite Warriors lines? No communication between the two about their plans it seems.

I think Will's suggesting that Alpha Weltall uses the Scattershot from UW-07 for Betatron, and mixes and matches the UW and CW technobots with Hasbro box set Scattershot to make the perfect Computron.

william-james88 wrote:

Alpha Weltall wrote:I know for sure that the current single retail Scattershot will NOT be my Computron Scattershot. That doesn't mean that I don't still want it to complete Betatron though as I'll obviously have extra limbs around.

Why cant Betatron be made using Takara's Scatershot instead of the retail one? Judging from the trend of takara going for toon accuracy, he will probably look a lot like the chest deco on hasbro's.

Gah! He's shaping up to be less painted than TT's defensor, dragstrip, and CW + UW devs combined - he looks to have absolutely no painted details at all - if the UW line is anything to go by so far

Hellscream9999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Alpha Weltall wrote:I know for sure that the current single retail Scattershot will NOT be my Computron Scattershot. That doesn't mean that I don't still want it to complete Betatron though as I'll obviously have extra limbs around.

Why cant Betatron be made using Takara's Scatershot instead of the retail one? Judging from the trend of takara going for toon accuracy, he will probably look a lot like the chest deco on hasbro's.

Gah! He's shaping up to be less painted than TT's defensor, dragstrip, and CW + UW devs combined - he looks to have absolutely no painted details at all - if the UW line is anything to go by so far

What the hell is it with you and paint apps? You understand that paint has very little to do with how good a figure will look right? It's all about execution, plus it's been talked about and proved before that more paint typically equals more qc issues

That Bot wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Alpha Weltall wrote:I know for sure that the current single retail Scattershot will NOT be my Computron Scattershot. That doesn't mean that I don't still want it to complete Betatron though as I'll obviously have extra limbs around.

Why cant Betatron be made using Takara's Scatershot instead of the retail one? Judging from the trend of takara going for toon accuracy, he will probably look a lot like the chest deco on hasbro's.

Because Hasbro and TakaraTomy have gone independent at this point with the Combiner Wars/Unite Warriors lines? No communication between the two about their plans it seems.

I think Will's suggesting that Alpha Weltall uses the Scattershot from UW-07 for Betatron, and mixes and matches the UW and CW technobots with Hasbro box set Scattershot to make the perfect Computron.

Thanks That Bot, thats exactly what I meant. The initial post felt like you'd end up with 3 scatershots and I suggested that 2 is enough. One can be your preferred computrona nd the other can be Betatron.

specially since I believe that the chest of Takara's Computron will likely look more like Betatron's chest.

steals_your_goats wrote:
What the hell is it with you and paint apps? You understand that paint has very little to do with how good a figure will look right? It's all about execution, plus it's been talked about and proved before that more paint typically equals more qc issues

I agree. Case in point, Combiner Wars Leader Megatron. He arguably has the most paint apps we have seen in years from hasbro and yet that hasnt swayed Hellscream in any way into buying the figure.

Plus, when we look back at the alternators line, everyone preferred Smokescreen over Silvestreak even though they were the same mold and Silverstreak was the only fully painted figure of the Hasbro line.

In the end, paint apps arent everything. They can make a good figure even better but they can't save a figure. And they arent needed inorder to appreciate a figure. They can also, as steal_your_goats said, make a figure even worse. He was talking about qc issues but it can be worse than that. Look at below and tell me which of the two you would rather own? Is it the one with more paint or less?


Transformers Animated Bulkhead (Ironhide) Gallery

william-james88 wrote:

steals_your_goats wrote:
What the hell is it with you and paint apps? You understand that paint has very little to do with how good a figure will look right? It's all about execution, plus it's been talked about and proved before that more paint typically equals more qc issues

I agree. Case in point, Combiner Wars Leader Megatron. He arguably has the most paint apps we have seen in years from hasbro and yet that hasnt swayed Hellscream in any way into buying the figure.

Plus, when we look back at the alternators line, everyone preferred Smokescreen over Silvestreak even though they were the same mold and Silverstreak was the only fully painted figure of the Hasbro line.

In the end, paint apps arent everything. They can make a good figure even better but they can't save a figure. And they arent needed inorder to appreciate a figure. They can also, as steal_your_goats said, make a figure even worse. He was talking about qc issues but it can be worse than that. Look at below and tell me which of the two you would rather own? Is it the one with more paint or less?


Transformers Animated Bulkhead (Ironhide) Gallery

Oh my, he's so SHINY...

Delta Magnus wrote:Oh my, he's so SHINY...

The shine is nice, but the colour is where the problem is, no?

The shiny paint worked wonders for Ironhide/Armourhide and Rodimus...


Transformers Animated Ironhide (Armorhide) Gallery


Transformers Animated Rodimus Minor (Rodimus) Gallery

... but kind of failed for Bumblebee and Bulkhead


Transformers Animated Bumblebee Gallery

Aye, it certainly isn't show accurate at all, though I do think it's a very attractive hue. Kinda reminds me of the G1 Hound toy.

Also, with a new head that Bumblebee would make a superb Goldbug.

steals_your_goats wrote:
What the hell is it with you and paint apps? You understand that paint has very little to do with how good a figure will look right? It's all about execution, plus it's been talked about and proved before that more paint typically equals more qc issues

At the same time though, the execution wasn't that good for some figures, which is the big gripe. Sunsteaker and Dragstrip just look so plain it hurts. Takara's Defensor also looked disappointing as it gave up some paint applications on the chest and thighs and just colored it plain to match the animation model, which really did not flatter the figure. As a result, the Hasbro version to us looked much better since the paint made the figures look less bland and did not ignore some molded in detail.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Sunsteaker and Dragstrip just look so plain it hurts.

Hasbro was plain too, but on different ones. Did you know that Hasbro's Wheeljack was part of a band? They are called the Plain White Ts

william-james88 wrote:

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Sunsteaker and Dragstrip just look so plain it hurts.

Hasbro was plain too, but on different ones. Did you know that Hasbro's Wheeljack was part of a band? They are called the Plain White Ts

Yeah, no way I'm defending that hideously unpainted mess.

steals_your_goats wrote:What the hell is it with you and paint apps? You understand that paint has very little to do with how good a figure will look right? It's all about execution, plus it's been talked about and proved before that more paint typically equals more qc issues

Actually, it has a great deal to do with how good a figure looks, and I agree about execution - which is why I feel the way I do about the UW combiners. I don't necessarily need paint apps, but I do need the figure's deco to be broken up nicely; case in point hasbro's quillfire. He looks excellent despite having almost no paint apps, due to using 4 different colors of plastic to break up the deco. But Devs was nearly completely unpainted, and he was mostly comprised of a garish green plastic - especially on the legs, he needed something to break up all that green. UW Defensor had a horrible deco in combined mode, it was just bland paint sneezed over all the incredible molded detail he had, total waste - UW Computron looks to be going the same way, it'll look as bland and un-detailed as cw betatron. UW Dragstrip goes without explaining I think

william-james88 wrote:I agree. Case in point, Combiner Wars Leader Megatron. He arguably has the most paint apps we have seen in years from hasbro and yet that hasnt swayed Hellscream in any way into buying the figure.

Right, lets get one thing straight. I don't care how good a figure looks if it can't pose - or look good posing. I already know how solid the superion combined mode is, so this is a non-issue. When I see a figure that I'm interested in, I make sure there's nothing wrong with it (like cw megs' shoulders) and then see how good it looks (paint apps, number of plastic colors, etc...) and then I decide if it's something that I really need.

Plus, when we look back at the alternators line, everyone preferred Smokescreen over Silvestreak even though they were the same mold and Silverstreak was the only fully painted figure of the Hasbro line.

In the end, paint apps arent everything. They can make a good figure even better but they can't save a figure. And they arent needed inorder to appreciate a figure. They can also, as steal_your_goats said, make a figure even worse. He was talking about qc issues but it can be worse than that. Look at below and tell me which of the two you would rather own? Is it the one with more paint or less?

And last time I checked you were on board with the way I felt about UW Defensor and company, and for similar reasons, so why the sudden change of heart?

Hellscream9999 wrote:And last time I checked you were on board with the way I felt about UW Defensor and company, and for similar reasons, so why the sudden change of heart?

I still am, no change of heart. I was just explaining how paint apps werent everything. If the roles were reversed and Hasbro got the UW deco and Takara got the Hasbro deco for Defensor, I would have simply gotten whichever one was cheaper when all costs were considered. The toys are fine and I wanted them so I got the one that I could a) get sooner and b) get for cheaper. I had coupons for toysrus for the hasbro ones while the talkara one was a TTMall exclusive, so the decision made itself. And as I saw how lame some of the UW Defensor deco was I totally didnt feel I was missing out on anything. Even the Groove mold, which I will now experience with Computron.

So I dont think I changed my opinion. In the end, I just wanted to say that paint apps arent everything and you agree, which is cool

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:And last time I checked you were on board with the way I felt about UW Defensor and company, and for similar reasons, so why the sudden change of heart?

I still am, no change of heart. I was just explaining how paint apps werent everything. If the roles were reversed and Hasbro got the UW deco and Takara got the Hasbro deco for Defensor, I would have simply gotten whichever one was cheaper when all costs were considered. The toys are fine and I wanted them so I got the one that I could a) get sooner and b) get for cheaper. I had coupons for toysrus for the hasbro ones while the talkara one was a TTMall exclusive, so the decision made itself. And as I saw how lame some of the UW Defensor deco was I totally didnt feel I was missing out on anything. Even the Groove mold, which I will now experience with Computron.

So I dont think I changed my opinion. In the end, I just wanted to say that paint apps arent everything and you agree, which is cool

fair enough, I'll rephrase my stance: TT's execution of the deco's on the UW line sucks all sorts of @$$, and UW Computron is going to be hideously bland.

Hellscream9999 wrote:fari enough, I'll rephrase my stance: TT's execution of the deco's on the UW line sucks all sorts of @$$, and UW Computron is going to be hideously bland.

Even Bruticus, Superion and Grand Galvatron?

I thought Superion was amazing compared to hasbro's. I love how his chest takes the sculpting into account and its not just a big dap of colour seperating it midway:



And check out those gorgeous thighs!

I think show-accuracy can only go so far. If you're updating a character it's one thing to make someone like Astrotrain grey instead of white but you still have to work with the design. The MP line is where the cartoon accurate paint jobs should stay for updates to characters. I know the change on Mixmaster upset a lot of people but in my opinion the UW version just looks stupid putting paint on the back where there's no molded detail. I just hope they don't try anything stupid with the spy tablets for TR like putting a cassette sticker on them.

william-james88 wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:fari enough, I'll rephrase my stance: TT's execution of the deco's on the UW line sucks all sorts of @$$, and UW Computron is going to be hideously bland.

Even Bruticus, Superion and Grand Galvatron?

I thought Superion was amazing compared to hasbro's. I love how his chest takes the sculpting into account and its not just a big dap of colour seperating it midway:



And check out those gorgeous thighs!

I'll give you Superion, and Galvatronus; but I'm not too enthused by bruticus, the colors are too bright, it just doesn't feel as intimidating as the drab, dark colors of cw bruticus. I think vortex is the only one that works, and thats only because I have a soft spot for movie incinerator

Railbomb wrote:I think show-accuracy can only go so far. If you're updating a character it's one thing to make someone like Astrotrain grey instead of white but you still have to work with the design. The MP line is where the cartoon accurate paint jobs should stay for updates to characters. I know the change on Mixmaster upset a lot of people but in my opinion the UW version just looks stupid putting paint on the back where there's no molded detail. I just hope they don't try anything stupid with the spy tablets for TR like putting a cassette sticker on them.

I hope they avoid stickers altogether, seriously, all the one's I've seen are already peeling in package, no way I'm paying $10+ for that. I honestly would've been really happy for painted circuitry, like the foc datadisks, or tampographed faction sigil's...