Transformers Titans Return Slowly Trickling Out in Canada

Awe man look at all the stuff. All the Combiner sets, the insecticons, the junkions, leader starscream, ULTRA MAGNUS!? I have 2 toysrus stores in my city and we don't have any of that stuff.

Just stunticons, leader class AOE grimlock, Armada Megatron and the more of those neon blue RID exclusives. I'd rather have any of those at the moment.

Woah, you guys still have Insecticons? I suppose I shouldn't be too surprised at the idea of Platinum sets shelfwarming, but...

Ummm when if ever is this stuff gonna show up at any stores in Winnipeg? We have 3 Toys R Us' I have been checking on and off for weeks and nothing but RID crap and the insecticons (which I already own.) Oh and there's even AOE garbage still on the shelves at some of them! Sorry for the rant but this is getting really frustrating. Haven't even seen Fort Max yet!

Saint John NB TRU has stuff from 3 years ago still on the shelves and we don't get half of the new stuff

Randomhero wrote:Awe man look at all the stuff. All the Comhiner sets, the insecticons, the junkions, leader starscream, ULTRA MAGNUS!? I have 2 toysrus stores in my city and we don't have any of that stuff.

Just stunticons, leader class AOE grimlock, Armada Megatron and the more of those neon blue RID exclusives. I'd rather have any of those at the moment.

Sounds like your stores are similar to mine. I would love to see a display with that kind of Transformers stuff at my TRU. The last time I saw that much TF stuff at a TRU was when Dark of the Moon came out and most TRUs had a giant display when you walked in. Currently it's all multiples of the same RiD figures and leftover AoE stuff

This is really off-topic and for that I'm sorry but I must be honest... while G1 and IDW are my favourite continuities, it feels a little... bad to be getting only them from a line called Generations.
Like, 2013 Generations was great. We got G1, IDW, G2, Beast Wars, Beast Machines, Armada, RiD, WFC/FOC... it was crazy.
And since then we've only gotten, like, what? CW Armada Megatron who isn't in scale with Universe Hot Shot or Armada Starscream, didn't have his own mold made for him and was literally just made because "Well we've gotta get another use out of this mold somehow. Hey, wasn't there another Megatron that turned into a tank? Energon or something?"
I'm really holding out hope for those Vector Prime and Tidal Wave rumours... but it'd be nicer still to see non-G1 characters get their own molds. Maybe once Prime Wars is over we can get more of those quality Beast Wars remakes or something.

Kurona wrote:This is really off-topic and for that I'm sorry but I must be honest... while G1 and IDW are my favourite continuities, it feels a little... bad to be getting only them from a line called Generations.
Like, 2013 Generations was great. We got G1, IDW, G2, Beast Wars, Beast Machines, Armada, RiD, WFC/FOC... it was crazy.

Those all came during 2014, not 2013. And all that was done because 2014 was an anniversary year to be celebrated. The same thing happened with the Universe line in 2009. 2008 had Universe with nothing but Classics-style G1 update figures, while 2009 had update figures from G1, G2, Beast Wars, Beast Wars II, Armada, Cybertron, etc. Anniversary years get figures from all over while the surrounding years go back to business as usual.

Sabrblade wrote:

Kurona wrote:This is really off-topic and for that I'm sorry but I must be honest... while G1 and IDW are my favourite continuities, it feels a little... bad to be getting only them from a line called Generations.
Like, 2013 Generations was great. We got G1, IDW, G2, Beast Wars, Beast Machines, Armada, RiD, WFC/FOC... it was crazy.

Those all came during 2014, not 2013. And all that was done because 2014 was an anniversary year to be celebrated. The same thing happened with the Universe line in 2009. 2008 had Universe with nothing but Classics-style G1 update figures, while 2009 had update figures from G1, G2, Beast Wars, Beast Wars II, Armada, Cybertron, etc. Anniversary years get figures from all over while the surrounding years go back to business as usual.

I mean, whatever year it was, it was still great and I'd like to see it repeated whether anniversary or not. It's generations, I'd like to see at least something outside of G1/IDW once in a while that's not a remold.

Kurona wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Kurona wrote:This is really off-topic and for that I'm sorry but I must be honest... while G1 and IDW are my favourite continuities, it feels a little... bad to be getting only them from a line called Generations.
Like, 2013 Generations was great. We got G1, IDW, G2, Beast Wars, Beast Machines, Armada, RiD, WFC/FOC... it was crazy.

Those all came during 2014, not 2013. And all that was done because 2014 was an anniversary year to be celebrated. The same thing happened with the Universe line in 2009. 2008 had Universe with nothing but Classics-style G1 update figures, while 2009 had update figures from G1, G2, Beast Wars, Beast Wars II, Armada, Cybertron, etc. Anniversary years get figures from all over while the surrounding years go back to business as usual.

I mean, whatever year it was, it was still great and I'd like to see it repeated whether anniversary or not. It's generations, I'd like to see at least something outside of G1/IDW once in a while that's not a remold.

A lot of us would agree in wanting to see more non-G1 stuff in the line, especially with this year being Beast Wars's 20th anniversary. Alas, though, every time Hasbro's been asked about that this year, they kept shooting down the suggestion with "we don't have any Beast Wars plans for this year" and keep telling people to go check out Takara's offerings instead. It strikes me as though Hasbro only cares to actually commemorate the other non-G1 lines only during the big main anniversary years, which is a shame.

Sabrblade wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Kurona wrote:This is really off-topic and for that I'm sorry but I must be honest... while G1 and IDW are my favourite continuities, it feels a little... bad to be getting only them from a line called Generations.
Like, 2013 Generations was great. We got G1, IDW, G2, Beast Wars, Beast Machines, Armada, RiD, WFC/FOC... it was crazy.

Those all came during 2014, not 2013. And all that was done because 2014 was an anniversary year to be celebrated. The same thing happened with the Universe line in 2009. 2008 had Universe with nothing but Classics-style G1 update figures, while 2009 had update figures from G1, G2, Beast Wars, Beast Wars II, Armada, Cybertron, etc. Anniversary years get figures from all over while the surrounding years go back to business as usual.

I mean, whatever year it was, it was still great and I'd like to see it repeated whether anniversary or not. It's generations, I'd like to see at least something outside of G1/IDW once in a while that's not a remold.

A lot of us would agree in wanting to see more non-G1 stuff in the line, especially with this year being Beast Wars's 20th anniversary. Alas, though, every time Hasbro's been asked about that this year, they kept shooting down the suggestion with "we don't have any Beast Wars plans for this year" and keep telling people to go check out Takara's offerings instead. It strikes me as though Hasbro only cares to actually commemorate the other non-G1 lines only during the big main anniversary years, which is a shame.

Yeah... we at least agree there. I'm not saying they will do it, just that they probably really should - it honestly starts feeling like they're not acknowledging there's fans outside of G1, IDW, Movie and whatever cartoon's current.

Barricade with Frenzy Headmaster!
Tankor with Rhinox Headmaster!
Sideways with... whatever the Rider's called Headmaster!
Roadbuster with Tarantulas Headmaster!

Well the biggest thing is the majority want more G1 characters modernized. I agree id like
More diversity, that's why I got Legends Black Arachnia, Nightbird and Slipstream but in the same right Armada, Energon and Cybertron and Beast Wars as a whole don't need new figures. They're all pretty solid in their own right. armada is a little iffy due to them back peddling on articulation and engineering but that was to aim at new kids than old but that worked. Beast Wars toys still mostly work and when they try is sometimes just doesn't work. Dinobot is fine but CHUG Cheetor, Armada Hotshot and skybyte are still inferior to their original toys. Yeah hotshot has more articulation but he's a floppy mess and they removed his axel-zooka and gave he has zero gimmick for his minicon. That's whole whole point of that line.


Like I said I'd like some diversity but I did just require Transmetal Tarantulas and he fits just fine as IDW tarantulas.

Kurona wrote:it honestly starts feeling like they're not acknowledging there's fans outside of G1, IDW, Movie and whatever cartoon's current.

True, but to be fair, from Hasbro's business perspective, those do seem to be the most relevant and profitable things for them to currently focus the brand on, and which has pretty much been the case for their business model since the early 2000s (just swap out "IDW" for "Dreamwave" and scratch out "Movie" and there you go). So from their point of view, why fix what isn't broken?

Not saying I agree with Hasbro's view (I'd gladly welcome more Beast Era, RiD 2001, and Unicron Trilogy updates), but their view is understandable.

Sideways would be great. They could even justify it for a 1987-orientated line by retooling him into Wreck-Gar

Sabrblade wrote:A lot of us would agree in wanting to see more non-G1 stuff in the line, especially with this year being Beast Wars's 20th anniversary.

Am I right that the only Beast Wars stuff that has happened this year are the figures at BotCon, MP Optimus Primal being released, and MP Cheetor being announced? The BotCon sets are basically out of reach for most people, and TF:TM has 5 Platinum Editions coming out of repaints. Kinda crazy, but maybe for the 30th anniversary ow BW then..?

AND! Wasn't Beast Wars a Hasbro concept in the first place?

Noideaforaname wrote:Barricade with Frenzy Headmaster!
Tankor with Rhinox Headmaster!
Sideways with... whatever the Rider's called Headmaster!
Roadbuster with Tarantulas Headmaster!

Wheeljack808 wrote:Ummm when if ever is this stuff gonna show up at any stores in Winnipeg? We have 3 Toys R Us' I have been checking on and off for weeks and nothing but RID crap and the insecticons (which I already own.) Oh and there's even AOE garbage still on the shelves at some of them! Sorry for the rant but this is getting really frustrating. Haven't even seen Fort Max yet!

As I wrote in the article, some TRUs held a street date for fortmax and only released him monday.

Also, each TRU got only 1 or 2 cases. The most cases they have gotten so far was for the Voyagers. But even then as you cans ee from the photo, after not even one day there was only one Galvatron left. Hence the word "trickling". These things sell out quick and the only reason I got some was because I went to TRU every 2 days. I also call asking if they have certain SKU numbers. That can also let them check if they recieved some but dont have any left or if there are some in the back (which happened a few times). Here is a link. I suggest calling your TRU, giving them these numbers and asking if they had some or if they will get some.

Kurona wrote:Like, 2013 Generations was great. We got G1, IDW, G2, Beast Wars, Beast Machines, Armada, RiD, WFC/FOC... it was crazy.

Tha was 2014 where they had the Thrilling 30 subline which was commemorating the entire brand and releasing chaacters and designs from all eras. So thats why you only saw that kind of diversity then. That was also the first year John Warden's designs started (with Generations Whirl) and he has professed to be more into G1, both Japan and US versions. And since he is lead designer on the Generations team and it is he who comes up with what the line is made up of, it makes sense that its all G1 since. But Takara is giving us MP Beast Wars so I feel fans are winning regardless.

Bumblebee21 wrote:One of my Walgreens has fracture and megatronus for $12.79

Buy them! Thats is a great price for two very good figures. Though Fracture is the superior figure (he's better than any single CW figure we got this year).

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Ask me how many times I've transformed Galvatron into the jet mode.

How many times have you transformed him intoa jet?

Kurona wrote:Thing is though, they don't really have any reason to do that. Headmaster Arcee wasn't part of their version of the cartoon, and even if they did get Rebirth (I know they got it years later, but c'mon), it's not exactly that significant.

While I dont think Takara is all powerful, I wouldnt put aything past them either. The MTMTE comics arent even translated and yet they released Skids in his comic colours.

MemphisR56 wrote:Immediately carried out the side-cannon arm mod on galvatron, with great results.

Brainstorm is a thing of beauty. All the detail is crisp and sharp, the paint and tampos are neat, and flawless. He feels engineered to perfection. Everything clicks together tight and flush. Just an all around great figure.

I read this too quick. At first i was like "wait, your galvatron clicks together perfectly and all flush?" And then i realized you were talking about Brainstorm. And what is the mod for the side cannon on Galvatron?

Rodimus Prime wrote:I spotted TR Galvatron, Sentinel Prime and Hardhead at my TRU today and I noticed that the purple piece on Galvatron's face was loose from Nebulon. Can it be attached or it is just that way?

Thats just the way it is.


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Transformers Titans Return Galvatron Gallery

itscramtastic wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:A lot of us would agree in wanting to see more non-G1 stuff in the line, especially with this year being Beast Wars's 20th anniversary.

Am I right that the only Beast Wars stuff that has happened this year are the figures at BotCon, MP Optimus Primal being released, and MP Cheetor being announced? The BotCon sets are basically out of reach for most people, and TF:TM has 5 Platinum Editions coming out of repaints. Kinda crazy, but maybe for the 30th anniversary ow BW then..?

There was also the Platinum Edition "Year of the Monkey" Optimus Primal... which was a Beast Machines mold... originally released in the RiD 2001 line... with a G1 Optimus-based deco...

But, it did have a "Beast Wars 20" logo on it!


...Yeah, not very exciting.

itscramtastic wrote:AND! Wasn't Beast Wars a Hasbro concept in the first place?

Kenner, actually.

itscramtastic wrote:AND! Wasn't Beast Wars a Hasbro concept in the first place?

Yes it was, but then again so is the Transformers brand itself.

william-james88 wrote:

itscramtastic wrote:AND! Wasn't Beast Wars a Hasbro concept in the first place?

Yes it was, but then again so is the Transformers brand itself.

HOW DARE YOU GIVE HASBRO CREDIT FOR ANYTHING!!

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:Thing is though, they don't really have any reason to do that. Headmaster Arcee wasn't part of their version of the cartoon, and even if they did get Rebirth (I know they got it years later, but c'mon), it's not exactly that significant.

While I dont think Takara is all powerful, I wouldnt put aything past them either. The MTMTE comics arent even translated and yet they released Skids in his comic colours.

That was a simple repaint, and it's not exactly like they could do much else. While it was a surprise... otherwise, Skids is an extremely obscure character; at least for the 1984/1985 guys. He only pulled in, like, two cameos in the cartoon, the marvel comics weren't released in Japan; there was basically no fiction for him. Not to mention that the Skids toy is EXTREMELY IDW; like, you can't really turn him into the cartoon version - that no-one cared about - even with the stuff they pulled off in UW. So for a mold that's very specific to one particular version of a character, said version proving to have growing popularity in Japan, with the original version of the character having less appearances in the cartoon than friggin' Slugfest... it kinda makes sense. And it was a unique mold, they probably wanted to release it sometime rather than waste it.
Meanwhile, Arcee had a LOT of fictional appearances in Japanese G1, none of which she was a headmaster, and it'd require a major retool for something that really would only appeal to American fans. Maybe they'll do it, but they don't have as much of a reason to. Skids isn't that comparable.
Though, I suppose to sum up...

Skids:-
-practically no Japanese fictional appearances
-unique mold that hasn't been released before
-very specific to one version of the character
-there hasn't been a toy of skids before
-IDW has growing popularity in Japan, which is relevant to today
-Only requires a repaint

Arcee:-
-many Japanese fictional appearances
-both Generations Arcee and TR Chromedome have - or will be very soon - released in Japan
-Generations Arcee works very fine for all fictional appearances of Arcee in Japanese G1
-The Rebirth is not nostalgic for Japanese fans and I doubt it has a particularly large fanbase there
-Arcee was never a headmaster in Japan until The Rebirth was released in 1996 as a home video
-Would require a major retool

So... again, while on the surface it's the same "Well they're fine doing America-specific stuff", it's a very different situation. They might, but I honestly doubt it. The only major new tooling they've done so far - Blackarachnia, Slipstream, Nightbird, Groove, Blast Off, Computron, Ginrai, Ghost Starscream, Thrust, Headmasters (did I miss anything recent?) - have been to adhere to fiction that was nostalgic and/or significant in fiction for them. And it's not exactly like Headmaster Arcee is an obscure overseas-exclusive concept that's as popular for them as Liokaiser is for us.
Is it possible? Yeah, anything's possible. Unless you're suggesting a Titan Class Unicron this year then it doesn't make sense to shut you down. But I'd say that at the least it's VERY unlikely and they have little to no reason to do it.

Kurona wrote:So... again, while on the surface it's the same "Well they're fine doing America-specific stuff", it's a very different situation.

Far points all arund, now here is another one:

Liokaiser is nowhere in US' G1 fiction. Yet they released CW Liokaiser and gave him 6 new heads. If a company like Hasbro would do that, then I wouldnt put it past Takara to give something lik that. I mean they even gave us a Slipstream toy that had her own tooling and she is not associated to Japan in any way.

william-james88 wrote:I mean they even gave us a Slipstream toy that had her own tooling and she is not associated to Japan in any way.

Outside of, well, the Japanese dub of Animated and its "The Cool" manga.

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:So... again, while on the surface it's the same "Well they're fine doing America-specific stuff", it's a very different situation.

Far points all arund, now here is another one:

Liokaiser is nowhere in US' G1 fiction. Yet they released CW Liokaiser and gave him 6 new heads. If a company like Hasbro would do that, then I wouldnt put it past Takara to give something lik that. I mean they even gave us a Slipstream toy that had her own tooling and she is not associated to Japan in any way.

But Japan got Animated

And as I said, Liokaiser's a very popular overseas concept. If there's anything in Japanese-exclusive fiction that American fans love... it's Star Saber. And then it's Liokaiser. Besides, it's still very different. Liokaiser was built up as one of the biggest threats and greatest enemies of the Autobots; a fearsome opponent on the battlefield. And he was a unique character whose toy is legendary for having no combiner kibble save for the head.
Headmaster Arcee? I wouldn't really put that on the same level. I mean, I don't speak for Japanese fans, but I doubt that when they got The Rebirth - in 1996, again, as a home video - they really cared that much for the concept and it got really popular? And it's not exactly as if it's a unique character nor had an amazing toy with an impressive quality like no kibble to it; it's still Arcee, and she still had no toy.
When American and British fans found out years later about Japan's exclusive series, it was kind of like a treasure trove, wasn't it? A continuation of G1 that we never got with large stories, epic fights and so much else that garnered a lot of popularity. No wonder Star Saber and Liokaiser got popular, they were new Transformers characters in an anime continuation of G1!
And what did Japan get? ... well, they found out that instead of Headmasters, America got a really shitty, badly paced, incomprehensible mess of a toy advert. I kind of doubt Rebirth got popularity when Headmasters was around; the only thing that makes it a popular choice in America is nostalgia. Meanwhile Headmasters, Masterforce and Victory are enjoyable on other levels. I mean, I think they're kinda crap, but they're still popular and enjoyable enough for some people.

And even with Liokaiser's popularity... Hasbro still saw fit to make him a Platinum set exclusive to one retailer. ie a set that only hardcore fans can really get due to the pricing, was made in limited quantities, and has a large price to offset the cost of making it. It's a very specific set.

Plus, this was Liokaiser's first toy since 1989. Arcee's already had a toy. And on top of all that, Hasbro's and Takara's business decisions are very different. Just because Hasbro decides to make a Platinum set of a Japan-exclusive character doesn't make Takara's going to care enough to make a Headmasters Arcee.


At the end of the day though, this kind of boils down to one thing - you have to prove that Headmaster Arcee, in Japan, is ANYWHERE near as popular as Liokaiser is here. And while I don't live there and haven't partaken in their fanbase, I don't really think you'll find a lot of Japanese fans all over that concept.

Kurona wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:So... again, while on the surface it's the same "Well they're fine doing America-specific stuff", it's a very different situation.

Far points all arund, now here is another one:

Liokaiser is nowhere in US' G1 fiction. Yet they released CW Liokaiser and gave him 6 new heads. If a company like Hasbro would do that, then I wouldnt put it past Takara to give something lik that. I mean they even gave us a Slipstream toy that had her own tooling and she is not associated to Japan in any way.

But Japan got Animated

And as I said, Liokaiser's a very popular overseas concept. If there's anything in Japanese-exclusive fiction that American fans love... it's Star Saber. And then it's Liokaiser. Besides, it's still very different. Liokaiser was built up as one of the biggest threats and greatest enemies of the Autobots; a fearsome opponent on the battlefield. And he was a unique character whose toy is legendary for having no combiner kibble save for the head.
Headmaster Arcee? I wouldn't really put that on the same level. I mean, I don't speak for Japanese fans, but I doubt that when they got The Rebirth - in 1996, again, as a home video - they really cared that much for the concept and it got really popular? And it's not exactly as if it's a unique character nor had an amazing toy with an impressive quality like no kibble to it; it's still Arcee, and she still had no toy.
When American and British fans found out years later about Japan's exclusive series, it was kind of like a treasure trove, wasn't it? A continuation of G1 that we never got with large stories, epic fights and so much else that garnered a lot of popularity. No wonder Star Saber and Liokaiser got popular, they were new Transformers characters in an anime continuation of G1!
And what did Japan get? ... well, they found out that instead of Headmasters, America got a really shitty, badly paced, incomprehensible mess of a toy advert. I kind of doubt Rebirth got popularity when Headmasters was around; the only thing that makes it a popular choice in America is nostalgia. Meanwhile Headmasters, Masterforce and Victory are enjoyable on other levels. I mean, I think they're kinda crap, but they're still popular and enjoyable enough for some people.

And even with Liokaiser's popularity... Hasbro still saw fit to make him a Platinum set exclusive to one retailer. ie a set that only hardcore fans can really get due to the pricing, was made in limited quantities, and has a large price to offset the cost of making it. It's a very specific set.

Plus, this was Liokaiser's first toy since 1989. Arcee's already had a toy. And on top of all that, Hasbro's and Takara's business decisions are very different. Just because Hasbro decides to make a Platinum set of a Japan-exclusive character doesn't make Takara's going to care enough to make a Headmasters Arcee.


At the end of the day though, this kind of boils down to one thing - you have to prove that Headmaster Arcee, in Japan, is ANYWHERE near as popular as Liokaiser is here. And while I don't live there and haven't partaken in their fanbase, I don't really think you'll find a lot of Japanese fans all over that concept.

I guess I'm confused. Why does Headmaster Arcee being popular in Japan control whether or not Hasbro makes a figure? It's not like they haven't made figures that come out here and not there and vice versa.

I can't wait for Takara to make a headmaster Arcee. I hope she comes with little papers, filing cabinet and a desk to sit at because that's literally all Japan did with her in Headmasters

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:So... again, while on the surface it's the same "Well they're fine doing America-specific stuff", it's a very different situation.

Far points all arund, now here is another one:

Liokaiser is nowhere in US' G1 fiction. Yet they released CW Liokaiser and gave him 6 new heads. If a company like Hasbro would do that, then I wouldnt put it past Takara to give something lik that. I mean they even gave us a Slipstream toy that had her own tooling and she is not associated to Japan in any way.

But Japan got Animated

And as I said, Liokaiser's a very popular overseas concept. If there's anything in Japanese-exclusive fiction that American fans love... it's Star Saber. And then it's Liokaiser. Besides, it's still very different. Liokaiser was built up as one of the biggest threats and greatest enemies of the Autobots; a fearsome opponent on the battlefield. And he was a unique character whose toy is legendary for having no combiner kibble save for the head.
Headmaster Arcee? I wouldn't really put that on the same level. I mean, I don't speak for Japanese fans, but I doubt that when they got The Rebirth - in 1996, again, as a home video - they really cared that much for the concept and it got really popular? And it's not exactly as if it's a unique character nor had an amazing toy with an impressive quality like no kibble to it; it's still Arcee, and she still had no toy.
When American and British fans found out years later about Japan's exclusive series, it was kind of like a treasure trove, wasn't it? A continuation of G1 that we never got with large stories, epic fights and so much else that garnered a lot of popularity. No wonder Star Saber and Liokaiser got popular, they were new Transformers characters in an anime continuation of G1!
And what did Japan get? ... well, they found out that instead of Headmasters, America got a really shitty, badly paced, incomprehensible mess of a toy advert. I kind of doubt Rebirth got popularity when Headmasters was around; the only thing that makes it a popular choice in America is nostalgia. Meanwhile Headmasters, Masterforce and Victory are enjoyable on other levels. I mean, I think they're kinda crap, but they're still popular and enjoyable enough for some people.

And even with Liokaiser's popularity... Hasbro still saw fit to make him a Platinum set exclusive to one retailer. ie a set that only hardcore fans can really get due to the pricing, was made in limited quantities, and has a large price to offset the cost of making it. It's a very specific set.

Plus, this was Liokaiser's first toy since 1989. Arcee's already had a toy. And on top of all that, Hasbro's and Takara's business decisions are very different. Just because Hasbro decides to make a Platinum set of a Japan-exclusive character doesn't make Takara's going to care enough to make a Headmasters Arcee.


At the end of the day though, this kind of boils down to one thing - you have to prove that Headmaster Arcee, in Japan, is ANYWHERE near as popular as Liokaiser is here. And while I don't live there and haven't partaken in their fanbase, I don't really think you'll find a lot of Japanese fans all over that concept.

I guess I'm confused. Why does Headmaster Arcee being popular in Japan control whether or not Hasbro makes a figure? It's not like they haven't made figures that come out here and not there and vice versa.

The argument is over whether or not Takara will make Headmaster Arcee under the assumption Hasbro won't.

Kurona wrote:

RodimusConvoy13 wrote:

Kurona wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:So... again, while on the surface it's the same "Well they're fine doing America-specific stuff", it's a very different situation.

Far points all arund, now here is another one:

Liokaiser is nowhere in US' G1 fiction. Yet they released CW Liokaiser and gave him 6 new heads. If a company like Hasbro would do that, then I wouldnt put it past Takara to give something lik that. I mean they even gave us a Slipstream toy that had her own tooling and she is not associated to Japan in any way.

But Japan got Animated

And as I said, Liokaiser's a very popular overseas concept. If there's anything in Japanese-exclusive fiction that American fans love... it's Star Saber. And then it's Liokaiser. Besides, it's still very different. Liokaiser was built up as one of the biggest threats and greatest enemies of the Autobots; a fearsome opponent on the battlefield. And he was a unique character whose toy is legendary for having no combiner kibble save for the head.
Headmaster Arcee? I wouldn't really put that on the same level. I mean, I don't speak for Japanese fans, but I doubt that when they got The Rebirth - in 1996, again, as a home video - they really cared that much for the concept and it got really popular? And it's not exactly as if it's a unique character nor had an amazing toy with an impressive quality like no kibble to it; it's still Arcee, and she still had no toy.
When American and British fans found out years later about Japan's exclusive series, it was kind of like a treasure trove, wasn't it? A continuation of G1 that we never got with large stories, epic fights and so much else that garnered a lot of popularity. No wonder Star Saber and Liokaiser got popular, they were new Transformers characters in an anime continuation of G1!
And what did Japan get? ... well, they found out that instead of Headmasters, America got a really shitty, badly paced, incomprehensible mess of a toy advert. I kind of doubt Rebirth got popularity when Headmasters was around; the only thing that makes it a popular choice in America is nostalgia. Meanwhile Headmasters, Masterforce and Victory are enjoyable on other levels. I mean, I think they're kinda crap, but they're still popular and enjoyable enough for some people.

And even with Liokaiser's popularity... Hasbro still saw fit to make him a Platinum set exclusive to one retailer. ie a set that only hardcore fans can really get due to the pricing, was made in limited quantities, and has a large price to offset the cost of making it. It's a very specific set.

Plus, this was Liokaiser's first toy since 1989. Arcee's already had a toy. And on top of all that, Hasbro's and Takara's business decisions are very different. Just because Hasbro decides to make a Platinum set of a Japan-exclusive character doesn't make Takara's going to care enough to make a Headmasters Arcee.


At the end of the day though, this kind of boils down to one thing - you have to prove that Headmaster Arcee, in Japan, is ANYWHERE near as popular as Liokaiser is here. And while I don't live there and haven't partaken in their fanbase, I don't really think you'll find a lot of Japanese fans all over that concept.

I guess I'm confused. Why does Headmaster Arcee being popular in Japan control whether or not Hasbro makes a figure? It's not like they haven't made figures that come out here and not there and vice versa.

The argument is over whether or not Takara will make Headmaster Arcee under the assumption Hasbro won't.

Ah, that makes more sense,

I'm almost positive we'll get an Arcee retool of Blurr. Take a look at this cover for Transformers #55. She looks like someone has already been thinking about it.

Kurona wrote:The argument is over whether or not Takara will make Headmaster Arcee under the assumption Hasbro won't.

I'm not arguing, I dont care really since I never watched rebirth. I just dont think this is as unprobable as Takara making a whole new combining system to have a Unite Warriors Liokaiser with 6 deluxes (Last one Steal Your Goats, I swear).

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:The argument is over whether or not Takara will make Headmaster Arcee under the assumption Hasbro won't.

I'm not arguing, I dont care really since I never watched rebirth. I just dont think this is as unprobable as Takara making a whole new combining system to have a Unite Warriors Liokaiser with 6 deluxes (Last one Steal Your Goats, I swear).

Arguing is probably the wrong word, yeah. More negative connotations. Debate's better.


@RodimusConvoy
That's just her Earth design she's had for a while now

... and... actually, I don't think I see the resemblance to TR Blurr in at all.

Kurona wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:The argument is over whether or not Takara will make Headmaster Arcee under the assumption Hasbro won't.

I'm not arguing, I dont care really since I never watched rebirth. I just dont think this is as unprobable as Takara making a whole new combining system to have a Unite Warriors Liokaiser with 6 deluxes (Last one Steal Your Goats, I swear).

Arguing is probably the wrong word, yeah. More negative connotations. Debate's better.


@RodimusConvoy
That's just her Earth design she's had for a while now

... and... actually, I don't think I see the resemblance to TR Blurr in at all.

There's the parts that stick out on her calves/ankles. The extra parts on her forearms. Both correspond with TR Blurr. I can also see them cutting down the shoulders and then the "shield of Blurr could be a completely new piece that makes the front of her car. We already saw a new piece for Brainstorm.

I'm just guessing, but it doesn't seem like that's much of a stretch.

I could see an Arcee redeco out of the Blurr mold. I think it would be a pretty good fit if the front car piece was appropriately re-worked.

Kurona wrote:@RodimusConvoy
That's just her Earth design she's had for a while now

Yeah and I find it too bad we never got a toy like that. I found it smart how her back kibble was a car split in half rather than the whole front of the car.

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:@RodimusConvoy
That's just her Earth design she's had for a while now

Yeah and I find it too bad we never got a toy like that. I found it smart how her back kibble was a car split in half rather than the whole front of the car.

IDW designs in general always seem pretty smart like that. I'm glad we're finally getting Stormbringer Astrotrain; kind of want an earth-mode Galvatron now lol

I should probably stop going on about these...

but this is a good

Just aquick question has anyone in the Republic of Ireland seen any Titan masters? I've seen every other class size but them

Here's a little niggle i have with Hasbro TF toys in recent times that YES....also includes TR figs, eeons ago.....back during the G1 toyline, some figs, like Galvatron(whatever class size he was? somewhere from Voy to Leader) came with Lights & Sounds, & as the various toylines throughout the years, some other figures ALSO came with Lights & Sounds, but once we reach the figures of today(the only fairly recent-ish Deluxe fig that came with lights was FOC Grimlock)...the lights and sounds are only limited to Titan Class figures(at least with Hasbro figs! i know some smaller class 3p figs come with lights), so apart from cost! i dunno why this is? i mean.....who wouldn't like to have seen a Titans Return Galvatron(or whoever?) come with lights and sounds...as was the case with the original

At best I don't give a toss about lights and sounds, and at worst they're really friggin' annoying. Felt the same when I was a kid too. I'm glad the budget's going to something useful instead.

In my honest opinion, lights are nice when done right, and sounds are dumb, but I prefer neither, as the systems and battery compartments necessary often hinder the figure.

I like lights. Galvatron's cannon would look great with an LED in it.
I can live a long and happy life with out sounds.

I don't. I never use them, so I'd rather the cost goes into better engineering. Or more fun gimmicks. I was never one for lights and sounds as a kid, I always did such things myself. Same with battery powered trains. I always preferred to push them around by hand.

I like lights when they are from an upgrade kit or something, not something taking budget out of the figure itself. And, I'm with you all on the sounds. I really don't like them. I like a figure having neon and slightly reflective plastic in the eyes and weapons to make some pieces at least look like they glow when they are on camera.

Kurona wrote:I should probably stop going on about these...

but this is a good

That is awesome!

Ok, so I got myself Titans Return Galvatron and I think he is awesome. Especially for the 15$ US he cost me (plus tax).

Mostly Pros but a few cons too. Lets start with the cons.

The titan master gimmick makes it so hat he cant turn his head with the Galvatron crown and that hurts the toy quite a bit. I dont mind the aesthetic though, aside from how unpainted his face is. It's really sad how they first displayed him with some colour and only the eyes are painted in the end.

g1

Also, I have some problems with the back of the cannon mode. It looks like he either has a bad case of hemorrhoids or is waiting to pinch his loaf. And the pegs there are useless, I dont know why they are there.I am referring to the pegs at the top and bottom centered that should keep the legs together. But they are loose fits and nothign would change if they were there or no.

One last thing is that whule i dont need all my transformers to have wrist swivels, this guy needed them. I am totally ok with having his cannon peg onto the front of his bicep in robot mode but in that case, he should have a wrist swivel to turn his wrist sideways for some decent poses of him about tofire at someone.

The rest is all pros

I dont mind that he is a Headmaster in the least. The crown fits onto his face well and very close. It looks fine and as if it is part of his face. Its like a cresta the edge of his head, kind of like Spider-man's electro. It works for me and he still looks menacing. Plus the head being a little guy makes him able to pilot the spaceship mode.

Oh, thats right, Galvatron turns into a spaceship, along with a cannon. While the titan master gimmick might be intrusive on the figure, the triple changer feature is a perfect example of how to implement some more play value without hurting the toy in the least. Since it basically just an extra cockpit, it stores away very well in either mode to the point that you dont notice it (or care to). Everything folds back if you want it too. I love that optional antenna behind the cockpit which can give Galvatron his G1 look in robot mode and adds to the uniqueness of the spaceship mode, by adding to the aldready existing fin and making it bigger.

Its not he best spaceship ever, with the back being weak, but it doesnt hurt and the nice functional cockpit makes it leagues above the cybertronian vehicles found in the film toys or animated megatron (uurgh).

This toy has some subtle innovations and a good example is how several different pieces will rotate around the same pin. It happns with the landing gear and the cannon as well as the tank treads and arms. You can multiposition different parts among a common axis which gives multile configuration options which helps divers the 3 modes while being efficient on the parts count.

Like I said, I dont mind the cannon being on his bicep. Its big, yes, but it still works with the figure. And what I love is how it doesnt get stuck on his shoulderpads when you position it up or down. They made the spaces perfect so taht there would be minimal intereference. Its subtle, but makes a difference. Just like all the subtle pegging that goes on. Like how the hips fit perfectly against the crotch in canon mode or how the eet tab into the sides of the arms in spaceship mode.

There is also the delightful use of ratchets in the right places and with actual options for posing rather than when a ratchet limits you into a pose that is to stiff or too wide.

I also love that plastic used on his feet and chest. That purple looks so delicious and the feet are a gorgeous shiny gun metal grey. I want more of it on other toys. Oh and here is something Hasbro really did not need to do (but thank the Lord they did): they actually gave him flabs behind his legs. They didnt do that on several figures lately (even in the Prime line) but they did it here. And they really didnt need to since those pieces dont add anything in the other modes and instead are just extraneous kibble they try to fold away (and partly aciece it thanks to some good pegs).

As you can see, I have way more good to say about this toy than bad. Its the best official Halvatron toy by a long shot, definitely the best articulated and a very welcome addition to my collection.

Looks like you win for finding Galvy for a better deal William. Was it online or at a physical store? Mine was a few dollars above retail so it wasn't bad, but shipping pushed it to 30 or so. Mostly because it's coming from California to the midwest where I'm at.

In any case I hope I like the figure. I got CW Cyclonus and TR Scourge coming too so I can complete my "Heralds of Unicron" I wanted.

I am new to this forum and just purchased my Fort max from a TRU in Commack NY 149.99 and 1 remaining. At store. How do I compress my camera pics so the fit?

Hellscream9999 wrote:Fellow Seibertronians, it would seem that the biggest Titan has made it state-side, fellow user's ScottyP and carrytheone have both found Fortress Maximus at their local Toy'R'Us' for $149.99 a piece. carytheone found his at Toy'R'Us in Baton Rouge, La. and ScottyP found his at Toys'R'Us in Cary, NC. You can see several pictures provided by carytheone below. So, has Fort Max hit your area yet? Will you get him if you see him? Let us know in the comments below.

william-james88 wrote:Ok, so I got myself Titans Return Galvatron and I think he is awesome. Especially for the 15$ US he cost me (plus tax).

Mostly Pros but a few cons too. Lets start with the cons.

The titan master gimmick makes it so hat he cant turn his head with the Galvatron crown and that hurts the toy quite a bit. I dont mind the aesthetic though, aside from how unpainted his face is. It's really sad how they first displayed him with some colour and only the eyes are painted in the end.

g1

Also, I have some problems with the back of the cannon mode. It looks like he either has a bad case of hemorrhoids or is waiting to pinch his loaf. And the pegs there are useless, I dont know why they are there.I am referring to the pegs at the top and bottom centered that should keep the legs together. But they are loose fits and nothign would change if they were there or no.

One last thing is that whule i dont need all my transformers to have wrist swivels, this guy needed them. I am totally ok with having his cannon peg onto the front of his bicep in robot mode but in that case, he should have a wrist swivel to turn his wrist sideways for some decent poses of him about tofire at someone.

The rest is all pros

I dont mind that he is a Headmaster in the least. The crown fits onto his face well and very close. It looks fine and as if it is part of his face. Its like a cresta the edge of his head, kind of like Spider-man's electro. It works for me and he still looks menacing. Plus the head being a little guy makes him able to pilot the spaceship mode.

Oh, thats right, Galvatron turns into a spaceship, along with a cannon. While the titan master gimmick might be intrusive on the figure, the triple changer feature is a perfect example of how to implement some more play value without hurting the toy in the least. Since it basically just an extra cockpit, it stores away very well in either mode to the point that you dont notice it (or care to). Everything folds back if you want it too. I love that optional antenna behind the cockpit which can give Galvatron his G1 look in robot mode and adds to the uniqueness of the spaceship mode, by adding to the aldready existing fin and making it bigger.

Its not he best spaceship ever, with the back being weak, but it doesnt hurt and the nice functional cockpit makes it leagues above the cybertronian vehicles found in the film toys or animated megatron (uurgh).

This toy has some subtle innovations and a good example is how several different pieces will rotate around the same pin. It happns with the landing gear and the cannon as well as the tank treads and arms. You can multiposition different parts among a common axis which gives multile configuration options which helps divers the 3 modes while being efficient on the parts count.

Like I said, I dont mind the cannon being on his bicep. Its big, yes, but it still works with the figure. And what I love is how it doesnt get stuck on his shoulderpads when you position it up or down. They made the spaces perfect so taht there would be minimal intereference. Its subtle, but makes a difference. Just like all the subtle pegging that goes on. Like how the hips fit perfectly against the crotch in canon mode or how the eet tab into the sides of the arms in spaceship mode.

There is also the delightful use of ratchets in the right places and with actual options for posing rather than when a ratchet limits you into a pose that is to stiff or too wide.

I also love that plastic used on his feet and chest. That purple looks so delicious and the feet are a gorgeous shiny gun metal grey. I want more of it on other toys. Oh and here is something Hasbro really did not need to do (but thank the Lord they did): they actually gave him flabs behind his legs. They didnt do that on several figures lately (even in the Prime line) but they did it here. And they really didnt need to since those pieces dont add anything in the other modes and instead are just extraneous kibble they try to fold away (and partly aciece it thanks to some good pegs).

As you can see, I have way more good to say about this toy than bad. Its the best official Halvatron toy by a long shot, definitely the best articulated and a very welcome addition to my collection.

Btw Peaugh showed off an adaptor piece that you can get so that you can peg his canon on his arm G1 style

FortressSupreme wrote:I am new to this forum and just purchased my Fort max from a TRU in Commack NY 149.99 and 1 remaining. At store. How do I compress my camera pics so the fit?

Hey there, welcome to the forums; you can either link them via an image-hosting site, or edit them in paint or photoshop (or the like) until they meet the maximum size requirement (in data, not dimensions) the site then formats them to fit within the constraints of the forum.

Article says slowly trickling out in Canada?? I Have yet to see anything in US yet, though many have mentioned in sightings the titans return have been coming to walmart and target I have checked many local walmart and target stores and only found new RID figures, got the excellent deluxe thunderhoof not long ago, and also picked up one step bisk last week, but have seen absolutely 0 titans return in any stores. Only place I haven't checked is TRU, mostly because my TRU are usually only good for exclusives, priced more heavily than target and walmart, and seem to have either slow stocking or alot of scalpers around them.

At walmart they appear to have anything ninja turtles you could possibly want, but even RID is starting to run dry now and sometimes the TF section is almost completely a blank shelf, usually with only the RiD 2015 minicon 4 pack sets marked down to 13 or 15 dollars.

Ninja turtles also has about 2 aisles of everything related to them, mega blocks, lego, regular figures, and extra displays besides that aren't in the normal aisle. The TF section is only a few pegs wide atm.

Wondering if maybe my local stores have cut back for some reason or if there was some kind of recall at this point.

At the rate its going Im hoping to see Titans Return by Christmas season, but not holding my breath on it

zko wrote:Article says slowly trickling out in Canada?? I Have yet to see anything in US yet, though many have mentioned in sightings the titans return have been coming to walmart and target I have checked many local walmart and target stores and only found new RID figures, got the excellent deluxe thunderhoof not long ago, and also picked up one step bisk last week, but have seen absolutely 0 titans return in any stores. Only place I haven't checked is TRU, mostly because my TRU are usually only good for exclusives, priced more heavily than target and walmart, and seem to have either slow stocking or alot of scalpers around them.

At walmart they appear to have anything ninja turtles you could possibly want, but even RID is starting to run dry now and sometimes the TF section is almost completely a blank shelf, usually with only the RiD 2015 minicon 4 pack sets marked down to 13 or 15 dollars.

Ninja turtles also has about 2 aisles of everything related to them, mega blocks, lego, regular figures, and extra displays besides that aren't in the normal aisle. The TF section is only a few pegs wide atm.

Wondering if maybe my local stores have cut back for some reason or if there was some kind of recall at this point.

At the rate its going Im hoping to see Titans Return by Christmas season, but not holding my breath on it

Nope, that sounds about par for the course, you're lucky, my wal-marts only have a couple AoE 1-step changers

I went to a Target store near where I live and all they had was the Wave 1 Titanmasters. 0_0 I did buy all four of them and I love them! I can't remember the exact location of the Target at the moment, but it is in Northwest Ohio, United States!

zko wrote:Article says slowly trickling out in Canada?? I Have yet to see anything in US yet, though many have mentioned in sightings the titans return have been coming to walmart and target I have checked many local walmart and target stores and only found new RID figures, got the excellent deluxe thunderhoof not long ago, and also picked up one step bisk last week, but have seen absolutely 0 titans return in any stores. Only place I haven't checked is TRU,

Turns out TRU is where most of the sightings are coming from for deluxes in the US. You might want to check em out.