Transformers Titans Return Brainstorm Vehicle Mode Leaked

so lemme get this right! they're NOW retooling 3p figures! for the TW line?

Stuartmaximus wrote:so lemme get this right! they're NOW retooling 3p figures! for the TW line?

No this is a retool of TR Blurr, already shown off in the rumor mill

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:so lemme get this right! they're NOW retooling 3p figures! for the TW line?

No this is a retool of TR Blurr, already shown off in the rumor mill

His confusion is not unfounded. These neuvo boxy G1 updates do remind me a lot of the style some 3P lines have been using.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:so lemme get this right! they're NOW retooling 3p figures! for the TW line?

No this is a retool of TR Blurr, already shown off in the rumor mill

well it looks dam close to that 3p figure!

it kinda now makes me wonder what mold they're gonna use for Trypticon? Diabolus Rex maybe?(Yes! OK! granted....i was being sarcastic! + that's not titan size).

Stuartmaximus wrote:so lemme get this right! they're NOW retooling 3p figures! for the TW line?

What 3p figure? Blurr is a Hasbro figure in the Titans Return line. Also, what's TW? Toy World?

Cyber Bishop wrote:Another Brainstorm?? Really??

Is to go with your other tarilbreaker

By the way guys, remember how the other pic had the front of the jet by his arm? I guess that means the end of the nosecone detaches. Thats an easy (but lazy) way to turn Blurr into Brainstorm.

william-james88 wrote:

Cyber Bishop wrote:Another Brainstorm?? Really??

Is to go with your other tarilbreaker

By the way guys, remember how the other pic had the front of the jet by his arm? I guess that means the end of the nosecone detaches. Thats an easy (but lazy) way to turn Blurr into Brainstorm.

Why is that lame? I think it's clever especially they give him a shield blaster that way instead of kibble.

william-james88 wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:so lemme get this right! they're NOW retooling 3p figures! for the TW line?

What 3p figure? Blurr is a Hasbro figure.

the main body looks very much like SXS R-02 Overclocking! now it could just be a coincidence? but they're are similarities

Lunatic Prime wrote:Why is that lame? I think it's clever especially they give him a shield blaster that way instead of kibble.

I didnt say lame, I said lazy. Because its partsforming for the alt mode.

Stuartmaximus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:so lemme get this right! they're NOW retooling 3p figures! for the TW line?

What 3p figure? Blurr is a Hasbro figure.

the main body looks very much like SXS R-02 Overclocking! now it could just be a coincidence? but they're are similarities

Maybe because SXS oriented at the G1 version and TR also does this?!

I have to give them credit. It's one of the more creative retools I've seen.

wait til you see the chromedome retooled from the deadend mold, thats creative retooling.

william-james88 wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:Why is that lame? I think it's clever especially they give him a shield blaster that way instead of kibble.

I didnt say lame, I said lazy. Because its partsforming for the alt mode.

It's not partsforming to me when something becomes a weapon or something like that.
Is Generations Thrilling 30 Trailcutter's shield blaster also partsforming to you?

Well, at least this version of Brainstorm has a better looking vehicle than the Gen version.

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:so lemme get this right! they're NOW retooling 3p figures! for the TW line?

What 3p figure? Blurr is a Hasbro figure.

the main body looks very much like SXS R-02 Overclocking! now it could just be a coincidence? but they're are similarities

Maybe because SXS oriented at the G1 version and TR also does this?!

well you can argue semantics all you want! but it doesn't detract from the fact that the last use of that mold....was with a 3p figure!

now! at least in the creative USE of this mold....we'll probably get to see this figure(with it's remnants of Overclocking) released in bricks & mortar stores in the UK, while up til now...people have been shouting "BUT YOU'LL NEVER SEE A 3p FIGURE RELEASED IN PHYSICAL STORES WITHIN THE UK!" so i guess they've found a creative way to release this one

although it does now make me wonder what other 3p molds they'll creatively use for Titans Return

Lunatic Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:Why is that lame? I think it's clever especially they give him a shield blaster that way instead of kibble.

I didnt say lame, I said lazy. Because its partsforming for the alt mode.

It's not partsforming to me when something becomes a weapon or something like that.
Is Generations Thrilling 30 Trailcutter's shield blaster also partsforming to you?

I dont have the figure and dont know of that eature so I cant comment on that, sorry.

I guess this will depend on how good it looks as a weapon.

Matrix_Holder wrote:wait til you see the chromedome retooled from the deadend mold, thats creative retooling.

Do you have pics to share?

As for retools, I am currently compiling a list of the best retools and none of CW figures on there. Nothing comes close to what Takara did with Battle Grimlock or BWN Killer Punch

Stuartmaximus wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:so lemme get this right! they're NOW retooling 3p figures! for the TW line?

What 3p figure? Blurr is a Hasbro figure.

the main body looks very much like SXS R-02 Overclocking! now it could just be a coincidence? but they're are similarities

Maybe because SXS oriented at the G1 version and TR also does this?!

well you can argue semantics all you want! but it doesn't detract from the fact that the last use of that mold....was with a 3p figure!

now! at least in the creative USE of this mold....we'll probably get to see this figure(with it's remnants of Overclocking) released in bricks & mortar stores in the UK, while up til now...people have been shouting "BUT YOU'LL NEVER SEE A 3p FIGURE RELEASED IN PHYSICAL STORES WITHIN THE UK!" so i guess they've found a creative way to release this one

although it does now make me wonder what other 3p molds they'll creatively use for Titans Return

overclocking shares nothig with titan returns blurr mold except that it's blurr. sxs ripped of hasbro to make their figure but hasbro has nothing incommon with that design except that its based on G1 blurr just like sxs did. animated blurr had a shield weapon and so did G1 blurr.

Stuartmaximus wrote:well you can argue semantics all you want! but it doesn't detract from the fact that the last use of that mold....was with a 3p figure!

So Hasbro shouldn't make any more toys of characters that have been used by 3PCs?

Matrix_Holder wrote:wait til you see the chromedome retooled from the deadend mold, thats creative retooling.

When did this become a thing? I am intrigued.

Stuartmaximus wrote:
well you can argue semantics all you want! but it doesn't detract from the fact that the last use of that mold....was with a 3p figure!

now! at least in the creative USE of this mold....we'll probably get to see this figure(with it's remnants of Overclocking) released in bricks & mortar stores in the UK, while up til now...people have been shouting "BUT YOU'LL NEVER SEE A 3p FIGURE RELEASED IN PHYSICAL STORES WITHIN THE UK!" so i guess they've found a creative way to release this one

although it does now make me wonder what other 3p molds they'll creatively use for Titans Return

I really think you are overthinking this. A 3rd party figure and a hasbro product are shooting for the same exact thing. Of course they will be similar. But that in no way means that the molds are relatable. They both shoot for the cybertronian G1 cartoon Blurr, and they have to look similar since they are going at the same thing. And just cause they look alike means nothing. The hasbro version will have to be much easier to transform as that is their MO and the 3rd party one a more difficult one. Plus the hasbro one is a headmaster, whereas the other is a regular blurr.

This has nothing to do with a 3rd party fig. This is a new mold then reused as Brainstorm to accomplish the original look and aesthetic.

Stuartmaximus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:so lemme get this right! they're NOW retooling 3p figures! for the TW line?

What 3p figure? Blurr is a Hasbro figure.

the main body looks very much like SXS R-02 Overclocking! now it could just be a coincidence? but they're are similarities

Because they're ALL based on G1 Blurr.

You don't get to accuse Hasbro of copying third-party toys when the third-party toys copied Hasbro in the first place.

AT LAST! A NON-BISECTED PICTURE!

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:so lemme get this right! they're NOW retooling 3p figures! for the TW line?

What 3p figure? Blurr is a Hasbro figure.

the main body looks very much like SXS R-02 Overclocking! now it could just be a coincidence? but they're are similarities

Maybe because SXS oriented at the G1 version and TR also does this?!

well you can argue semantics all you want! but it doesn't detract from the fact that the last use of that mold....was with a 3p figure!

now! at least in the creative USE of this mold....we'll probably get to see this figure(with it's remnants of Overclocking) released in bricks & mortar stores in the UK, while up til now...people have been shouting "BUT YOU'LL NEVER SEE A 3p FIGURE RELEASED IN PHYSICAL STORES WITHIN THE UK!" so i guess they've found a creative way to release this one

although it does now make me wonder what other 3p molds they'll creatively use for Titans Return

So Hasbro shouldn't make any more toys of characters that have been used by 3PCs?

no! i never said that! just surprised that's all! but i guess that's now the route that they're going with

& as i said before...i now wonder what other 3p figures they'll now use as a baseline mold for the Titans Return line?

SillySpringer wrote:Well, at least this version of Brainstorm has a better looking vehicle than the Gen version.

Not even close. This one is way more squat.

Here is the G1 toy and his alt mode in the show





And you are saying that this is the best version of that?



Instead of this?



No way, the back of the TR version looks nothing like Brainstorm. He has a single fin instead of the appropriate tail fins on the side? This guy is fun to have your headmasters be the same size but that's it. It's clearly a retool and nothing more.

chromedome has been talked about and seen by a number of people but there have been no images online leaked or othewise at all, really hoping hes shown tomorrow night at nytf.

Stuartmaximus wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:so lemme get this right! they're NOW retooling 3p figures! for the TW line?

What 3p figure? Blurr is a Hasbro figure.

the main body looks very much like SXS R-02 Overclocking! now it could just be a coincidence? but they're are similarities

Maybe because SXS oriented at the G1 version and TR also does this?!

well you can argue semantics all you want! but it doesn't detract from the fact that the last use of that mold....was with a 3p figure!

now! at least in the creative USE of this mold....we'll probably get to see this figure(with it's remnants of Overclocking) released in bricks & mortar stores in the UK, while up til now...people have been shouting "BUT YOU'LL NEVER SEE A 3p FIGURE RELEASED IN PHYSICAL STORES WITHIN THE UK!" so i guess they've found a creative way to release this one

although it does now make me wonder what other 3p molds they'll creatively use for Titans Return

Much as I hate to be cynical, but even so the chances of it seeing mass retail in the UK are about 1 percent. and about 10 percent of it being released through Toys R Us. Bearing in mind they completely skipped the Stunticons from combiner wars.. And almost all of the Thrilling 30 toys were exclusive to them.

This whole conversation about the new TR Blurr/Brainstorm mold resembling a 3rd party figure just reinforces how the label of "3rd party toys" is more of a misnomer while a more straightforward label for those not-Transformers toys would be "IP theft toys".

Stuartmaximus wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:so lemme get this right! they're NOW retooling 3p figures! for the TW line?

What 3p figure? Blurr is a Hasbro figure.

the main body looks very much like SXS R-02 Overclocking! now it could just be a coincidence? but they're are similarities

Maybe because SXS oriented at the G1 version and TR also does this?!

well you can argue semantics all you want! but it doesn't detract from the fact that the last use of that mold....was with a 3p figure!

now! at least in the creative USE of this mold....we'll probably get to see this figure(with it's remnants of Overclocking) released in bricks & mortar stores in the UK, while up til now...people have been shouting "BUT YOU'LL NEVER SEE A 3p FIGURE RELEASED IN PHYSICAL STORES WITHIN THE UK!" so i guess they've found a creative way to release this one

although it does now make me wonder what other 3p molds they'll creatively use for Titans Return

So Hasbro shouldn't make any more toys of characters that have been used by 3PCs?

no! i never said that! just surprised that's all! but i guess that's now the route that they're going with

& as i said before...i now wonder what other 3p figures they'll now use as a baseline mold for the Titans Return line?

Why do you think they look what 3PCs do and then copy their stuff? It's just a coincidence.
Or do you just like to argue and accuse ?

william-james88 wrote:

SillySpringer wrote:Well, at least this version of Brainstorm has a better looking vehicle than the Gen version.

Not even close. This one is way more squat.

Here is the G1 toy and his alt mode in the show





And you are saying that this is the best version of that?



Instead of this?



No way, the back of the TR version looks nothing like Brainstorm. He has a dingle fin instead of the appropriate tail fins on the side? This guy is fun to have your headmasters be the same size but that's it. It's clearly a retool and nothing more.

The new TR version definitely looks more similar to the G1 cartoon model.

Stu, you are really, really, really wrong about this, so please stop going on about it. Hasbro stole nothing from a 3rd party (or as I refer to them in my head, nice looking knock offs). They won't be using any ko stuff in stores or as anything.

Also in the UK we'll get the first wave of titan returns but it'll be hit and miss after that.

i love 3rd party toys but yeah, 99% of them are ip theft except for original figures like steelcore and some others.

the generations version had so much effort dedicated to the robot mode and they killed it. the vehicle mode did look a bit clunky with all that stuff in the back. But this is a different styled Brainstorm. The vehicle mode does look off even if it is more streamline. the Generations version is my true version, but I will still have him. And yes that one tailfin when the shoulders in bot mode appear to have the fins to fold up is annoying

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Plus the hasbro one is a headmaster, whereas the other is a regular blurr.

oh now now now now now! your just arguing semantics! coz you know dam well they're using characters in this line that weren't originally Headmasters!(Optimus Prime, Blaster & Soundwave to name but a few).

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:And just cause they look alike means nothing.

look alike! LOOK ALIKE! THEY'RE FROM THE SAME BLOODY MOLD PAL!(albeit with a bit of a retool) or are you just willing to refuse to accept it because it's ME that your talking to? coz had it been someone else that had made a similar comment....then you might've said something along the lines of "y'know...you could be right about that"(or certainly a more positive response) & then proceed to proverbially pat them on the back.

Hasbro doesn't use IP-stealing 3rd party molds. Hasbro makes its own molds.

Stuartmaximus wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:And just cause they look alike means nothing.

look alike! LOOK ALIKE! THEY'RE FROM THE SAME BLOODY MOLD PAL!(albeit with a bit of a retool) or are you just willing to refuse to accept it because it's ME that your talking to? coz had it been someone else that had made a similar comment....then you might've said something along the lines of "y'know...you could be right about that"(or certainly a more positive response) & then proceed to proverbially pat them on the back.

Enough!

Hasbro has not, do not, and will not use 3p molds for figures. They create these designs in-house, from scratch, with help from TT. That they both happen to look like the source material is probably because, both hasbro and 3p companies understand the value therein.

No one is picking on you, you're bringing this on yourself by continually throwing this claim around. No one else is saying this, in fact, everyone is unanimously trying to explain why you're wrong, but you're obviously not listening to any of their well-reasoned arguments.

This is not a 3p mold.

mblase75 wrote:You don't get to accuse Hasbro of copying third-party toys

well if you had took the time instead of hastily responding to me! then you would've noticed that i already just did! since that's the angle that you're coming at me with.

Between the fact that I already have the incredible Voyager Brainstorm, and retool burnout from Combiner Wars, I think I'll pass on this one. I'm planning to get Blurr, so I don't see a reason to pick up this figure.

Stuartmaximus wrote:look alike! LOOK ALIKE! THEY'RE FROM THE SAME BLOODY MOLD PAL!(albeit with a bit of a retool)

Dude, no. You're just wrong. They're not using the same mold, they're using similar character models, that's all.

Unless you can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Hasbro is using a 3P mold. In which case, I'm sure many of us who have said you're wrong will stand corrected and apologise accordingly.

So we finally get a voyager astrotrain, galvatron and the first toy of sentinel prime and they're bloody headmasters when they've never been headmasters before. So annoyed. t

MrBlack wrote:Between the fact that I already have the incredible Voyager Brainstorm, and retool burnout from Combiner Wars, I think I'll pass on this one. I'm planning to get Blurr, so I don't see a reason to pick up this figure.

It's basically for the fans that do like the headmaster line, so that they can have a display with them all in scale, at least they gave us the option to go this route instead of having one towering over the others

Burn wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:look alike! LOOK ALIKE! THEY'RE FROM THE SAME BLOODY MOLD PAL!(albeit with a bit of a retool)

Dude, no. You're just wrong. They're not using the same mold, they're using similar character models, that's all.

Unless you can prove beyond a shadow of a doubt that Hasbro is using a 3P mold. In which case, I'm sure many of us who have said you're wrong will stand corrected and apologise accordingly.

And if it was the "same mold" they would transform very similar which will not be the case.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

MrBlack wrote:Between the fact that I already have the incredible Voyager Brainstorm, and retool burnout from Combiner Wars, I think I'll pass on this one. I'm planning to get Blurr, so I don't see a reason to pick up this figure.

It's basically for the fans that do like the headmaster line, so that they can have a display with them all in scale, at least they gave us the option to go this route instead of having one towering over the others

I'm just happy to get a brainstorm that will actually see wide release, unlike the voyager one. It'll be cool to actually pick up a brainstorm figure in stores with a headmaster gimmick that (hopefully) is fully functional this time around.

Lunatic Prime wrote:Or do you just like to argue and accuse

well i'm sure thaf there's plenty of people that are more than willing to update you on my reputation on here if you haven't already figured that one out all by yourself

I don't understand all the whining about the headmasters. If you don't like the gimmick, all you have to do is just not take their head off. That's it.

I've had over clocking In my hand and I've seen the full pic of Titan returns blurr in hand and I tell you With 100% fact that they are not even remotely the same mold. Over clocking is also a voyager/ mp scale while tr blurr is a deluxe. They're completely different molds.

Stuartmaximus wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:Or do you just like to argue and accuse

well i'm sure thaf there's plenty of people that are more than willing to update you on my reputation on here if you haven't already figured that one out all by yourself

OH! OH! OH! I can answer this!

He's a grumbly little Ewok that just wants a hug!

And now you know.

Microraptor wrote:I don't understand all the whining about the headmasters. If you don't like the gimmick, all you have to do is just not take their head of. That's it.

Great characters like galvatron, sentinel prime and astrotrain shouldn't be headmasters in the first place. They shouldn't be involved in this line. It's a massive disappointment to wait for these characters to then be stuck with a gimmick I've always hated.

Prowl4 wrote:

Microraptor wrote:I don't understand all the whining about the headmasters. If you don't like the gimmick, all you have to do is just not take their head of. That's it.

Great characters like galvatron, sentinel prime and astrotrain shouldn't be headmasters in the first place.

Sentinel Prime and Astrotrain are "great characters"? Since when?

Burn wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:Or do you just like to argue and accuse

well i'm sure thaf there's plenty of people that are more than willing to update you on my reputation on here if you haven't already figured that one out all by yourself

OH! OH! OH! I can answer this!

He's a grumbly little Ewok that just wants a hug!

And now you know.

That is very true, burn why don't we have an hugging emoticon?

Stu, it's clear now that your only doing this to try and start arguments just so you can try and be the problem user on that site, but you're more coming off as that cranky kid who just won't have a nap and is ready to drop at any moment.

Anyway, ah yes the issue of bots being titanmasters, another old favourite. I'm not bothered by this, but if you don't like it then just don't buy it, or buy it and keep the head on. Them not being headmasters only matters to us adult collectors (and even then not all of us) not to hasbro, so we are making an issue of something that is in the eye of the beholder.

Sabrblade wrote:

Prowl4 wrote:

Microraptor wrote:I don't understand all the whining about the headmasters. If you don't like the gimmick, all you have to do is just not take their head of. That's it.

Great characters like galvatron, sentinel prime and astrotrain shouldn't be headmasters in the first place.

Sentinel Prime and Astrotrain are "great characters"? Since when?

Sentinel prime was bad ass in megatron origins I loved his power suit like iron man. He valiantly stood against but was ultimately viciously killed by megatron. He was a good predecessor in his nature to optimus and came off really well.

I always liked astrotrain in g1 and idw have given him a nice new lease of life as the grumpy sarcastic transport. I just don't think these characters deserve to be stained by being headmasters.

Prowl4 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Prowl4 wrote:

Microraptor wrote:I don't understand all the whining about the headmasters. If you don't like the gimmick, all you have to do is just not take their head of. That's it.

Great characters like galvatron, sentinel prime and astrotrain shouldn't be headmasters in the first place.

Sentinel Prime and Astrotrain are "great characters"? Since when?

Sentinel prime was bad ass in megatron origins I loved his power suit like iron man. He valiantly stood against but was ultimately viciously killed by megatron. He was a good predecessor in his nature to optimus and came off really well.

I always liked astrotrain in g1 and idw have given him a nice new lease of life as the grumpy sarcastic transport. I just don't think these characters deserve to be stained by being headmasters.

So they have a removable head, how is that 'being stained'? For every person out there against headmasters is another who maybe grew up with them, and has been hoping for these figures, and gimmick to make a comeback

Hellscream9999 wrote:So they have a removable head, how is that 'being stained' for every person out there against headmasters is another who maybe grew up with them, and has been hoping for these figures, and gimmick to make a comeback

1 - There's a bunch of Headmaster characters that haven't received modern (licensed) updates ... why utilise a character that was never a Headmaster?
2 - Astrotrain already has a modern update. Why another one?
(Same could be said for Galvatron but I know his modern update is disliked more than duragrip)