Transformers: The Last Knight Voyager Class Hound Deco Variant Found
Friday, October 13th, 2017 2:52PM CDT
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That makes this sighting quite unusual. Seibertronian Scottimus Prime found a Voyager Class Hound at ToysRUs in Lake Grove, NY, which has the previously thought canceled deco on it. The red crosses do have an Autobot logo in them, which was a possible way to skirt the legal issue, but ended up not being used on the finished toy, or in the movie. Is this a factory mistake, similar to Titans Return Chromedome being found with his Takara face, or part of a batch of Hounds that was overlooked? Time may tell, but in the meantime, is you do find more of this figure with the thought-canceled deco, please let us know!
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Posted by Cybertronius Primus on October 13th, 2017 @ 3:00pm CDT
Posted by Quantum Surge on October 13th, 2017 @ 3:02pm CDT
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 13th, 2017 @ 3:41pm CDT
Posted by nemesis primus on October 13th, 2017 @ 3:47pm CDT
Posted by Carnivius_Prime on October 13th, 2017 @ 5:06pm CDT
I finally got sick of waiting for Bee to turn up on shelves and just ordered him for £29.99 which is still silly money for a Deluxe but he's a real nice one and at least it's over and done with now. Or it will be when he arrives and takes his place next to my jazzed up voyager Optimus Prime.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 13th, 2017 @ 5:12pm CDT
As for Skullitron, I'll keep that one sealed as a representative of TLK for my SOC collection. However, hanging him on the was required a big-ass nail. Next week, I'll make up for it by finally buying and opening Steelbane.
(My rules for my MOSC collection is buying on sale whenever possible and only repaints or duplicates of things that I already played with.)
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 14th, 2017 @ 3:48pm CDT
Know what they said?
They haven't ordered anything TLK related since the giant flip and change Hot rod. And they are not ordering any more TLK stuff since stuff stocked in April haven't moved.
So TLK is dead in the only store that sells TFs within 45 minutes of me... and it never went past wave 1.
The distribution of this line is and was absolute crap. The fact that the only thing I saw between 10 different stores TLK related past wave 1 was some wave 2 legions, wave 2 1-steps, Nitro and Scorn twice, and half the TRU exclusives and Walmart exclusives.
And, seeing as many of you had the same experience, I am let down, disappointed, angered, and depressed. This line had so many great figures past wave 1, and most of us had to go online or are still struggling to find things. It is ridiculous.
At the very least, the only guys I have yet to get are new Bee, Cogman, and the legion wave with Hound and dragonstorm.
But still, most of my TLK stuff was either from online or Canada. Cybertron, Prime, Barricade, Berserker, Infernocus, and the wave 2 legions were the only ones I found in store
Posted by King Kuuga on October 15th, 2017 @ 3:24am CDT
Posted by Qwan on October 15th, 2017 @ 5:39am CDT
Front-ending the line with a character that had literally 5 seconds of screentime, a repaint of the least-recognisable and arguably worst-looking Dinobot from AoE, yet another Bumblebee who is an objectively-inferior repaint and not even the new mold they made for this movie, and exactly one new mold of a character that had any significant ("significant") presence in the film... yeah, Hasbro really shot themselves in the foot from the get-go this time around. Even the Voyagers are the same trend, albeit to a lesser extent - nobody wanted a boring-colored (if movie-accurate) Grimlock repaint and the Optimus, while an okay decision since Optimus is always a decently safe bet, didn't actually do anything to help since the accompanying Grimlocks still had to move before stores would restock with another (hopefully newer) shipment.
At this point I've all but given up hope of seeing Deluxes past Wave 1 near me - every single store still has a Slash and Berserker or two clogging the pegs - and while I managed to find all Voyager waves by total fluke, it was just the one case of Wave 3 and now we're back to Hounds and Grimlocks everywhere again. I just hope that the lesson Hasbro "learns" from this doesn't end up being "well the Generations-style toys from TLK didn't sell well, so I guess nobody wants them and we should stop making them". Hopefully they get the message as intended - we don't like repaints of stuff we already have, it's not that we don't like good Movie toys. The problem with voting with one's wallet is that wallets are notoriously inarticulate
(On another note, since I picked up the Grimlock repaint on sale a couple weeks ago I now technically have every Voyager released under the TLK line. Maybe I'll do an ultimate-Voyager-comparison post or something when I can be bothered. Spoilers, Grimlock and Prime are at the bottom and everyone else is at the top.)
Posted by william-james88 on October 15th, 2017 @ 8:23am CDT
King Kuuga wrote:I dunno, it seems like toys were distributed fine, the problem was that the first wave was half redecos from AOE which most people recognized and didn't want.
This is untrue, the bee redeco sold very well compared to his wave mates.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 15th, 2017 @ 10:02am CDT
william-james88 wrote:King Kuuga wrote:I dunno, it seems like toys were distributed fine, the problem was that the first wave was half redecos from AOE which most people recognized and didn't want.
This is untrue, the bee redeco sold very well compared to his wave mates.
That Bee was ironically a good call. It's the dinobots that shelfwarm the hardest.
Posted by Va'al on October 16th, 2017 @ 12:37pm CDT
Posted by Cybertronius Primus on October 16th, 2017 @ 4:14pm CDT
Posted by Bronzewolf on October 16th, 2017 @ 10:58pm CDT
Second is the strangest story: Hot Rod has been listed on Target.com in the US. This is the second time the (apparently former) Walmart exclusive figure has appeared on a non-Walmart website, further confirming that something behind the scenes has happened to change the exclusitivity of the figure. This might be good news for collectors and fans however, as, while he hasn't been spotted anywhere in the US at physical retail yet, he might crop up in additional big box stores other than Walmart.
Posted by Autobot N on October 17th, 2017 @ 1:16am CDT
Posted by Bronzewolf on October 17th, 2017 @ 1:17am CDT
Autobot N wrote:This is officially weirder than #Braingate.
Holy **** ROD GATE. It's been in front of us the whole time! Give me a moment...
EDIT:
There we go, new addition to the conspiracy list. Stay woke, people!
Posted by Megatron Wolf on October 17th, 2017 @ 2:21am CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 17th, 2017 @ 2:46am CDT
Autobot N wrote:This is officially weirder than #Braingate.
Not quite, just odd. Brainstorm had the unfortunate effect of being (originally?) part of the main retail Deluxe assortment with the assortment code on his packaging, instead of being a standalone item with a single product code.
Speaking of which, RiD 2015 Deluxe Starscream has two: one for the TRU Clash of the Transformers, and another for the general Warriors Class for whatever reason (deco glitch?). The same thing may be true for Hot Rod, something that his original Amazon listing hinted at. Currently I have these recorded:
- C2919, from the Asia releases, directly from the toy
- C4058, from the Amazon listing
Posted by physucks on October 18th, 2017 @ 7:58am CDT
Posted by Kurona on October 18th, 2017 @ 8:00am CDT
Posted by william-james88 on October 18th, 2017 @ 11:14am CDT
Kurona wrote:And, it looks like, the same wheels. Are any other parts shared? I think that's everything.
I am pretty sure those grey pieces connecting their heads to their bodies are the same, along with other pieces of the skeleton for transformation but I dont have it in hand yet.
Posted by Stuartmaximus on October 18th, 2017 @ 12:08pm CDT
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/t ... k.1125689/
Posted by william-james88 on October 18th, 2017 @ 12:17pm CDT
Stuartmaximus wrote:TRU EXCLUSIVE TLK INFERNOCUS, SKULLITRON AND MEGATRON RELEASED IN THE UK!
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/t ... k.1125689/
Thats cool, if ever you or your friends see it in a store please send us an image and we will put it on the front page
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 18th, 2017 @ 4:42pm CDT
nemesis primus wrote:I posted this to a singular thread earlier but I found the Walmart exclusive Hot Rod in Asda today. Same price as every other deluxe for sale, but still no sign of wave 3 anywhere
Product code for that Hot Rod, please? Including assortment code if any, should be on the bottom above the bar code.
Posted by william-james88 on October 18th, 2017 @ 9:37pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:nemesis primus wrote:I posted this to a singular thread earlier but I found the Walmart exclusive Hot Rod in Asda today. Same price as every other deluxe for sale, but still no sign of wave 3 anywhere
Product code for that Hot Rod, please? Including assortment code if any, should be on the bottom above the bar code.
ASDA is Walmart in the UK so wouldnt it just be the very same Walmart exclusive number we have in the US?
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 19th, 2017 @ 12:11am CDT
william-james88 wrote:JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:nemesis primus wrote:I posted this to a singular thread earlier but I found the Walmart exclusive Hot Rod in Asda today. Same price as every other deluxe for sale, but still no sign of wave 3 anywhere
Product code for that Hot Rod, please? Including assortment code if any, should be on the bottom above the bar code.
ASDA is Walmart in the UK so wouldnt it just be the very same Walmart exclusive number we have in the US?
It should be. I am keeping my eye out for that second, seemingly main retail, code for Hot Rod found in that amazon listing.
Posted by Qwan on October 19th, 2017 @ 5:44am CDT
One of the things that amazed me about The Last Knight toy line, was how the different versions of Megatron, were able to transform differently into roughly the same jet mode. The Allspark Tech version is no different, simplifying the transformation to the most basic steps, we again get a very good representation of its movie jet mode. While this line isn't for everyone, Megatron is a solid addition that stands on its own.
Posted by william-james88 on October 20th, 2017 @ 12:47am CDT
According to Yonoid from Cybertron.ca, the embossed number on the back of the box for the fixed version is 72011. The one with the issues has the number 72081 instead.
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on October 20th, 2017 @ 12:57am CDT
william-james88 wrote:According to Yonoid from Cybertron.ca, the embossed number on the back of the box for the fixed version is 72011. The one with the issues has the number 72081 instead.
Wait wait wait... the higher number has the problems? I thought the numbers are production run codes, which would mean the problems appeared later, not earlier.
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 20th, 2017 @ 5:10am CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 20th, 2017 @ 10:36am CDT
Posted by Sabrblade on October 20th, 2017 @ 9:10pm CDT
Let's hope Takara gives Leader Dragonstorm the Movie the Best treatment that other TLK figures have gotten.D-Maximus_Prime wrote:So I managed to get TLK Dragonstorm. He is alright, but I really want to love him more than I do. He is a bit too fiddly and he really needed to be different colors, more like his dragon heads than the rest of the body
Posted by Rainmaker on October 21st, 2017 @ 10:27pm CDT
Posted by EunuchRon on October 21st, 2017 @ 11:13pm CDT
Rainmaker wrote:Picked up Scorn, he's pretty awesome except for the slight flaw in mine that makes it hard to move the peg in his tail arm. I'm very sad and confused that the wave 2 deluxes haven't even showed up here at all yet considering I've seen up to the wave 3 voyagers and legions.
That peg is difficult period. Optibotimus had trouble with it in his review. I got mine to rotate all the way, but man, I never seen a toy that tried to break parts of ME like that this one. I'm glad I pounced on him and Nitro when one of the two local Wally Worlds got them in. I ain't seen them nowhere since. Yes, we got two Walmarts around here within two miles of each other... on the same friggin road.
I'm gettin' kind of hosed about nobody even getting Wave 2 stuff in. I'm seein' all sorts of Titans Return stuff, but it's still the same Wave 1 shelfwarmers everywhere I go. Oh well, it's close to Christmas, maybe they'll finally change stock for that? I'd love to get Crosshairs but I'm mainly lookin' for Cogman and Draggie to complete my Knights collection.
Posted by Emerje on October 22nd, 2017 @ 1:00am CDT
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Posted by optimusprimerotfroc on October 22nd, 2017 @ 9:22pm CDT
Posted by optimusprimerotfroc on October 22nd, 2017 @ 9:24pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Kurona wrote:And, it looks like, the same wheels. Are any other parts shared? I think that's everything.
I am pretty sure those grey pieces connecting their heads to their bodies are the same, along with other pieces of the skeleton for transformation but I dont have it in hand yet.
the feet lower legs knee pieces and chest to car roof pieces are the same
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 23rd, 2017 @ 10:28am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:Let's hope Takara gives Leader Dragonstorm the Movie the Best treatment that other TLK figures have gotten.D-Maximus_Prime wrote:So I managed to get TLK Dragonstorm. He is alright, but I really want to love him more than I do. He is a bit too fiddly and he really needed to be different colors, more like his dragon heads than the rest of the body
I hope so too. Having played with him more, I really wish the main dragon mode was actually smokey gray or black like the dragon heads. They stand out so badly and the rest of the coloring is very unflattering. He is so close and I want to like him so much, but he's just a bit too fiddly and badly paletted.
Also stopped at several stores last week during some interviews, some different ones that I have never stopped at before, and they all have only wave 1 TLK stuff... I only need New Bee, Cogman, and the last 2 legions dangit!
Posted by william-james88 on October 23rd, 2017 @ 12:14pm CDT
JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:william-james88 wrote:According to Yonoid from Cybertron.ca, the embossed number on the back of the box for the fixed version is 72011. The one with the issues has the number 72081 instead.
Wait wait wait... the higher number has the problems? I thought the numbers are production run codes, which would mean the problems appeared later, not earlier.
Well look at it this way, my TRU just got a fresh shipment of wave 3. So that would assume its the latest, right?
And the number on the crosshairs from this fresh case is indeed 72011.
Posted by skywarp-2 on October 23rd, 2017 @ 1:08pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:Stuartmaximus wrote:TRU EXCLUSIVE TLK INFERNOCUS, SKULLITRON AND MEGATRON RELEASED IN THE UK!
http://www.tfw2005.com/boards/threads/t ... k.1125689/
Thats cool, if ever you or your friends see it in a store please send us an image and we will put it on the front page
Did I mention how much I love the seibertron community? What a great place to be and with wonderful fellow fans. Just wanted to say that. This site is much appreciated and I love it here. You guys are the best!
Posted by King Kuuga on October 23rd, 2017 @ 6:10pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:King Kuuga wrote:I dunno, it seems like toys were distributed fine, the problem was that the first wave was half redecos from AOE which most people recognized and didn't want.
This is untrue, the bee redeco sold very well compared to his wave mates.
Actually, you got me there. I never see Bee, just the others.
Posted by william-james88 on October 23rd, 2017 @ 10:25pm CDT
Bee has a very cool transformation that somehow remains fresh even though its another take on the same transformation we have had for a decade (arms and legs end up in the same place as always). Its basically another take on the MPM transformation at a smaller scale and thats pretty cool. But man does he feel flimsy ad cheap. Maybe its because most pieces are thinner than what we get in the generations line due to the robot parts not being integrated into the vehicle. And both end up feeling overstuffed in vehicle mode. It feels lke the vehicles are about to burst. And there is some clear plastic parts on Bee that require quite a bit of pressure applied. Kinda scary.
Crosshair's deco is really lackluster in robot mode. Its just green, green everywhere. But at least in car mode, its the complete opposite where there is paint all over the place. I think its fully painted. Plus nice to see the rims are wheel painted.
Ok toys but by no means mind blowing.
Posted by Qwan on October 23rd, 2017 @ 10:49pm CDT
william-james88 wrote:So I got these two guys and I am unimpressed
Bee has a very cool transformation that somehow remains fresh even though its another take on the same transformation we have had for a decade (arms and legs end up in the same place as always). Its basically another take on the MPM transformation at a smaller scale and thats pretty cool. But man does he feel flimsy ad cheap. Maybe its because most pieces are thinner than what we get in the generations line due to the robot parts not being integrated into the vehicle. And both end up feeling overstuffed in vehicle mode. It feels lke the vehicles are about to burst. And there is some clear plastic parts on Bee that require quite a bit of pressure applied. Kinda scary.
Crosshair's deco is really lackluster in robot mode. Its just green, green everywhere. But at least in car mode, its the complete opposite where there is paint all over the place. I think its fully painted. Plus nice to see the rims are wheel painted.
Ok toys but by no means mind blowing.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts! I'm sure a lot of us are actually happy to hear a not-so-positive review of these later-wave guys - it really helps to dull that feeling of "I-need-it" that's so unhelpful when they aren't anywhere around.
(Which I'm just now seeing is almost exactly what you mentioned to me in another thread, not ten minutes ago. Funny how things work like that.)
Posted by -Kanrabat- on October 24th, 2017 @ 4:39am CDT
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 24th, 2017 @ 10:36am CDT
The Knights of Iacon (16 named characters in all, can you find and name them all?):
The Dragon knights:
And then this guy. I'm still torn over if he or Megatron will win TLK figure of the year (Nitro is figure of the year, so he doesn't count). He is really good, and he is a dead ringer for a Beast Wars Megatron with the legs mistransformed (last picture)
Posted by william-james88 on October 24th, 2017 @ 10:52am CDT
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Thanks for your thoughts Will, I still want that Bee though, considering I think he may be the best of the deluxe molds I would have, and I really like the chest on him better than any other
Do you mean he's a better deluxe movie bee than any other so far or the best deluxe from TLK?
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 24th, 2017 @ 11:36am CDT
william-james88 wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Thanks for your thoughts Will, I still want that Bee though, considering I think he may be the best of the deluxe molds I would have, and I really like the chest on him better than any other
Do you mean he's a better deluxe movie bee than any other so far or the best deluxe from TLK?
movie Bee. I have the deluxe from 2007 (which I still consider to be the best looking of his deluxe toys, especially since I got him twice with the legacy of Bumblebee set), the Nitro one from DotM, human alliance from RotF, and the 2 from AoE).
Posted by william-james88 on October 24th, 2017 @ 9:49pm CDT
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:william-james88 wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Thanks for your thoughts Will, I still want that Bee though, considering I think he may be the best of the deluxe molds I would have, and I really like the chest on him better than any other
Do you mean he's a better deluxe movie bee than any other so far or the best deluxe from TLK?
movie Bee. I have the deluxe from 2007 (which I still consider to be the best looking of his deluxe toys, especially since I got him twice with the legacy of Bumblebee set), the Nitro one from DotM, human alliance from RotF, and the 2 from AoE).
Well there are two deluxes that are probably the best out there which you dont have then: HFTD Battle Blade Bee and DOTM Bumblebee, this guy below:
https://static.seibertron.com/images/to ... ee-127.jpg
Thats the mold Takara deemed to be the best hence why they used that one for their MB line (its the same mold used for the lazerbeak pink redeco).
I dont know where this new Bee would fit in a top 5 (which I am working on). His QC issues of doors popping off, feet undoing constantly and super loose hips would probably disqualify him. We'll see. I know you dont like loose joints, so I dont know how you will feel about this new bee. But the chest is cool, sure.
Posted by EunuchRon on October 24th, 2017 @ 11:09pm CDT
D-Maximus_Prime wrote:The Knights of Iacon (16 named characters in all, can you find and name them all?):
I'm only countin' 14, but here goes.
Last row is Leaders Megs, Optimus with Quintessa on his shoulder, and Grimlock.
Second row is Voyagers Scorn, Slog, Megs, Optimus, Stormreign, and Dragonicus.
First row is Deluxe Strafe, Slug, Scorn, Snarl, and Slash.
Posted by D-Maximal_Primal on October 25th, 2017 @ 10:13am CDT
william-james88 wrote:Well there are two deluxes that are probably the best out there which you dont have then: HFTD Battle Blade Bee and DOTM Bumblebee, this guy below:
https://static.seibertron.com/images/to ... ee-127.jpg
Thats the mold Takara deemed to be the best hence why they used that one for their MB line (its the same mold used for the lazerbeak pink redeco).
I dont know where this new Bee would fit in a top 5 (which I am working on). His QC issues of doors popping off, feet undoing constantly and super loose hips would probably disqualify him. We'll see. I know you dont like loose joints, so I dont know how you will feel about this new bee. But the chest is cool, sure.
The reason for me that the movie 1 deluxe is the best is because it came the closest to having the wings done right, which is a major nitpick of mine with movie Bee. Almost every mold after the 2007 deluxe has the wings way too far out, they need to collapse closer to the center of his back. And the only major issue I had with that mold are the arms, everything else is great to me.
And as for his issues, Maybe it is a case of mileage may vary. My MP Bee doesn't have standing or feet issues, his only issue being fingers that are a teensy bit too loose, affecting how he can hold his hammer.
EunuchRon wrote:D-Maximus_Prime wrote:The Knights of Iacon (16 named characters in all, can you find and name them all?):
I'm only countin' 14, but here goes.
Last row is Leaders Megs, Optimus with Quintessa on his shoulder, and Grimlock.
Second row is Voyagers Scorn, Slog, Megs, Optimus, Stormreign, and Dragonicus.
First row is Deluxe Strafe, Slug, Scorn, Snarl, and Slash.
I'm sorry, I may not have stated the question properly. You did find 15 (I was counting Quintessa), and the combined Dragonstorm counted as 16 since all his components were there.
Oh well, I'm glad someone tried it. I wanted to show off the knights all together (minus Steelbane and Skullitron) and just threw that question in there for fun!