Transformers: The Last Knight - News Round-Up: Submarines, Hopkins, Transformers Reaction Force

That Bumblebee looks like one that would be in the TF5 toyline...

Stuartmaximus wrote:Yes yes....thank you thank you......don't all clap at once

OK, that's kinda dumb. I was never a big fan of the whole Omega Lock thing.

This is, what, the fifth Cybertronian artifact to appear on our planet (and moon). Sure, they always have an explanation, but are we some sort of magnet for lost Cybertronian technology?

Emerje

No, Optimus, you can't call your team the Reaction force! The fine bros will sue you!

Emerje wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:Yes yes....thank you thank you......don't all clap at once

OK, that's kinda dumb. I was never a big fan of the whole Omega Lock thing.

This is, what, the fifth Cybertronian artifact to appear on our planet (and moon). Sure, they always have an explanation, but are we some sort of magnet for lost Cybertronian technology?

Emerje

Fourth. The Seed for AOE was a Cybertronian (kinda) relic that Lockdown sold to the humans in exchange for helping hunt down OP. But that is a good point. In TF:Prime, they actually had a good reason for all the relic appearing on Earth. Movieverse, while I find them more enjoyable than most do, doesn't actually have a reason why except coincidence.

This being a TF film, the whole omega lock story will be as important as the tomb of the primes nonsense of the second one. Any plot and mythology will be quickly overlooked for more action and Mark Walhberg running. So I really dont think any of that matters. Does anyone here really watch these movies for its mythological world building aspect?

william-james88 wrote:This being a TF film, the whole omega lock story will be as important as the tomb of the primes nonsense of the second one. Any plot and mythology will be quickly overlooked for more action and Mark Walhberg running. So I really dont think any of that matters. Does anyone here really watch these movies for its mythological world building aspect?

HAHAHAHA! No.

The Bay TF films are an action film power house meant to appeal to general film-going audiences if anything, but does call outs to appease the fans too simultaneously. That doesn't make the films entirely crap or devoid of merit though, they can be enjoyed as they are.

This is true, at least with me, I consider the films decent action flicks overall. So I enjoy them as action films and not specifically TF films. I have enjoyed some of the things they've used from G1 and modified to be less-cartoon like and more "edgier" for an action film. I appreciate those callouts and marriage of ideas between continuities. The Bay TF films aren't as epic as something like Lord of the Rings and Star Wars though and comparing them will always have one winding up short. You really can't compare the two here with what Bay does and his angle with it all. He's not a cerebral-story type of person, and that is painfully obvious because of the gratuitous explosions and lens flare. So, he's an action guy, and that's what these films are more or less - action films. The humor in the TF films is also a lot more juvenile, which isn't exactly bad, but not great, except maybe RotF Devastator's scrotum. That was pretty bad. My personal preference is for the TF films to go to a more cerebral route and thought provoking deal, but that will probably not happen for a while if at all ever.

My dream movie idea that will likely never get made: TF novel "Exodus" and IDW Megatron Origin modified considerably to be into a film and dealing with the build up of Optimus and Megatron and their respective rises to prominence and power.

SeibertronianSeibertronians, it seems that Santiago Cabrera has returned to the Last Knight set! Thanks to a couple of photos from his official Instagram among other sources, we have confirmation that the actor, rumored to be playing Merlin in the upcoming movie, has returned to filming, along with a couple helicopters! Check out the photos below, and discuss with the other citizens of Seibertron in the comments!





And, as always, keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for all the latest news from the Transformers:The Last Knight set

I can't believe they're even letting those weak firework things off near the stone monuments. I thought pretty much nothing was allowed to happen around the actual stones.

DeadCaL wrote:I can't believe they're even letting those weak firework things off near the stone monuments. I thought pretty much nothing was allowed to happen around the actual stones.

as the article said, this is a replica of stonehenge.

william-james88 wrote:Does anyone here besides Sly really watch these movies for its mythological world building aspect?

Fixed.

And so, it looks like the principal shooting for Paramount's latest project with Michael Bay, Transformers: The Last Knight, has ended its main shooting for at least the main human cast - though it looks like there may be some additional days for other aspects, all according to the original plan for ending on 15th October. Both the movie's official social media and cast member Isabela Moner have celebrated the event by posting images and thanks on their feeds - check out a couple below, featuring the cars in London and the humans Mark Wahlberg, Laura Haddock and Josh Duhamel!

Just a question.....what happened to Tessa?

Powermaster Swag wrote:Just a question.....what happened to Tessa?

Probably at college and whats-his-name is probably racing

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Powermaster Swag wrote:Just a question.....what happened to Tessa?

Probably at college and whats-his-name is probably racing

Okay then, thanks!

Powermaster Swag wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Powermaster Swag wrote:Just a question.....what happened to Tessa?

Probably at college and whats-his-name is probably racing

Okay then, thanks!

Np problem.

Don't quote me on it though! That's just my guess

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Powermaster Swag wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

Powermaster Swag wrote:Just a question.....what happened to Tessa?

Probably at college and whats-his-name is probably racing

Okay then, thanks!

Np problem.

Don't quote me on it though! That's just my guess

Exclusive Seibertron news:

During the events of Transformers 5, Tessa is in college while her boyfriend, Lucky Charms, is out there racing.

^That will only be in the Novelization however, they don't have time to go into such details in the film itself.

They don't have time to say "my daughter's away studying and her boyfriend went with her"? Just on line?

Then again, they didn't have enough time last movie to say Drift's name...

^ sorry meant to put my j/k emoticon in there. fixed now

Kurona wrote:They don't have time to say "my daughter's away studying and her boyfriend went with her"? Just on line?

Then again, they didn't have enough time last movie to say Drift's name...

Wait really? Even when they were barking out orders at eachother or when they were in that chapel and he pretended to slice one of their necks?

Powermaster Swag wrote:Just a question.....what happened to Tessa?

Tragic short-shorts accident. Firemen tried to save her with the Jaws of Life, but it was already too late.

Come to think of it...I don't think they said Crosshairs name either did they?

william-james88 wrote:

Kurona wrote:They don't have time to say "my daughter's away studying and her boyfriend went with her"? Just on line?

Then again, they didn't have enough time last movie to say Drift's name...

Wait really? Even when they were barking out orders at eachother or when they were in that chapel and he pretended to slice one of their necks?

Drift not only never had his name said in movie, but was only shown transforming between car mode and robot mode once onscreen in the whole movie, and said transformation was only in the background obscured entirely by Bumblebee's own transformation, so we practically got to see none of Drift's car-to-robot transformation.

His helicopter/robot transformations were shown onscreen, though.

o.supreme wrote:Come to think of it...I don't think they said Crosshairs name either did they?

I think it might have been said once. Don't remember where, but at least just once.

Come to think of it, did they even use Bumblebee's name?




I kid I kid. None of the dinobots were called by name either, too bad. I do still find it super weird how Optimus speaks to them in ancient cybertronian and yet they dont speak back to him, as if they cant speak at all.And then Optimus speaks to them in english, so I really wonder if there was even a point to speaking cybertronian.

william-james88 wrote:None of the dinobots were called by name either,

Crosshairs says to the Spinosaur at the end..."I'll ride with you anytime Spike" (supposed to be Scorn) but...since when have TF names in bay films been very accurate

Devastator/Brawl
Dino/Mirage
Que/Wheeljack

"Arcee Twins" (are actually Triplets...) but whatever

o.supreme wrote:

william-james88 wrote:None of the dinobots were called by name either,

Crosshairs says to the Spinosaur at the end..."I'll ride with you anytime Spike" (supposed to be Scorn) but...since when have TF names in bay films been very accurate

Devastator/Brawl
Dino/Mirage
Que/Wheeljack

"Arcee Twins" (are actually Triplets...) but whatever

I'm pretty sure that was just a nickname he gave him, he wouldnt know the character's name. it's like if I see a dog I dont know and go, "come here Fido!".

Crosshairs was called out by name when they were on Lockdown's ship.

The only time Drift's name was used was in the scene leading up to Galvatron's attack, and it was on the aerial viewscreen the humans were using.

Hound was used a good bit

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Crosshairs was called out by name when they were on Lockdown's ship.

The only time Drift's name was used was in the scene leading up to Galvatron's attack, and it was on the aerial viewscreen the humans were using.

Hound was used a good bit

YES, I do remember that part on the screen! No wonder it was odd to hear it hadnt been used. Since it was so clear there, but yeah it was never mentioned by anyone.

o.supreme wrote:
"Arcee Twins" (are actually Triplets...) but whatever

In the context of that scene in ROTF,Lennox refers to all of the bikes as Arcee,like a single entity and is calling out the tiwns,Skids and Mudflap.
About all the bikes being Arcee was canon at some point.

But he doesn't pause there is no clear evidence he is referreing to Arcee (comma) and The Twins: he just says it all as one name/title, unless this was just poor delivery on the actors part, and nobody else bothered to care to catch it.

o.supreme wrote:But he doesn't pause there is no clear evidence he is referreing to Arcee (comma) and The Twins: he just says it all as one name/title, unless this was just poor delivery on the actors part, and nobody else bothered to care to catch it.

I dont think anybody cared.

william-james88 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:But he doesn't pause there is no clear evidence he is referreing to Arcee (comma) and The Twins: he just says it all as one name/title, unless this was just poor delivery on the actors part, and nobody else bothered to care to catch it.

I dont think anybody cared.

Agreed.

Not to mention that immediately after that order was given, we see first the Arcee bikes and then the Twins in their ice cream truck configuration both chasing after Sideways. The rest of the order given was "Target coming your way!" and in the scene, Sideways is indeed driving in the direction towards the Twins before turning away from them as one of them says "'Kay, I got'em, I got'em," while Arcee's three bikes only ever follow behind Sideways the whole time, meaning the target wasn't coming Arcee's way but instead the Twins' way since Sideways was only ever seen driving away from Arcee while he nearly ran into Skids and Mudflap before turning away from them.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

o.supreme wrote:But he doesn't pause there is no clear evidence he is referreing to Arcee (comma) and The Twins: he just says it all as one name/title, unless this was just poor delivery on the actors part, and nobody else bothered to care to catch it.

I dont think anybody cared.

Agreed.

Not to mention that immediately after that order was given, we see first the Arcee bikes and then the Twins in their ice cream truck configuration both chasing after Sideways. The rest of the order given was "Target coming your way!" and in the scene, Sideways is indeed driving in the direction towards the Twins before turning away from them as one of them says "'Kay, I got'em, I got'em," while Arcee's three bikes only ever follow behind Sideways the whole time, meaning the target wasn't coming Arcee's way but instead the Twins' way since Sideways was only ever seen driving away from Arcee while he nearly ran into Skids and Mudflap before turning away from them.

I hate that scene. The deception car had no chance, we never even saw its robot form right. It was just a car that got sliced in half.

Making a good TRANSFORMERS film is simple.

1) Character development. of the robots! THEY R PEOPLE, not shiny wallpaper to explode.

b) no humans

thirdly... care about what u r doing.

Z3ROhour wrote:Making a good TRANSFORMERS film is simple.

1) Character development. of the robots! THEY R PEOPLE, not shiny wallpaper to explode.

b) no humans

thirdly... care about what u r doing.

G1 had humans, is the 86 film terible?

To be fair, Transformers fiction often seems to be better when there's no humans - or at least has their involvement be minimal. Many would hold up Beast Wars as the best cartoon and the only 'humans' in that were introduced very near the end and actually factored in as a plot point rather than being a forced human friend or setting.
And then there's the MTMTE comics which, by virtue of their setting, never have any humans in it. Period. Don't even think about saying holomatter avatars
That said... I do believe it can be done well. Sari in Animated was a good example imo, and I think that the Headmaster/Targetmaster/Powermaster/anything-master format holds a lot of potential. The problem is that most of the time human companions are a forced necessity that feel in the way and annoying rather than doing anything to add to or progress the story - what makes Sari and the -masters so good is that they do in some way tie into and progress the story rather than just being a forced necessary evil.
The humans in Bayformers... well, I understand why they're there. You can't as easily make a movie focusing purely on the Cybertronians, the CGI budget would need to be astronomical for that - so you need some scenes with humans. But imagine we're in a world where that budget does exist. I challenge even those who like the movies here; would taking out the humans in the movies be a negative in any way, cost and popularity aside? Because I honestly don't see a single good thing the human characters add to the movies in a purely story/character-focused sense.

As I've previously referred to the Rescue Bots cartoon as being pretty much the antithesis of the movies, it's also pretty much the definitive win-all answer to how to have GOOD humans used WELL in Transformers fiction.

william-james88 wrote:G1 had humans, is the 86 film terible?

Humans or no, as a movie it's nothing great by any standard other than animation and music, I'll say.

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:G1 had humans, is the 86 film terible?

Humans or no, as a movie it's nothing great by any standard other than animation and music, I'll say.

Unpopular opinion but something I agree with, aye. Much like the cartoon itself I find it a fun little thing to watch but nothing to take particularly seriously; it's pretty standard stuff (though also with the non-standard MASS KILLING SPREE OF YOUR FAVOURITE CHARACTERS OH MY GOD HASBRO CALM DOWN)
... though what it also has that the cartoon doesn't is a ridiculously amazing soundtrack that fills you with 80s glee. I was born in 1996 and I can feel the 80s; let's not even get started on how Hot Rod's vehicle mode is the most ridiculously over-the-top meld of cheesy, what people thought the future would be and hot 80s awesomeness.

whaa? 1996? christ! your just a young un! barely even 20

Please keep the topic related to The Last Knight.

I thought i was,

are you trying to tell me that there's no 20 year old people born around 1996 appearing in the film? a film btw which NOONE!! has seen yet

Stuartmaximus wrote:I thought i was,

are you trying to tell me that there's no 20 year old people born around 1996 appearing in the film? a film btw which NOONE!! has seen yet

It was a generalised comment not specifically aimed at any one particular person but rather a bunch of people who were carrying on a conversation that clearly had nothing to do with The Last Knight.

Burn wrote:

Stuartmaximus wrote:I thought i was,

are you trying to tell me that there's no 20 year old people born around 1996 appearing in the film? a film btw which NOONE!! has seen yet

It was a generalised comment not specifically aimed at any one particular person but rather a bunch of people who were carrying on a conversation that clearly had nothing to do with The Last Knight.

Ah right, ok, no probs

The 2016 Brand Licensing Expo is on and Hasbro has a big display. For Transformers fans, the biggest take away so far are new character portraits based on what Megatron, Bumblebee and Optimus will look like in the upcoming Transformers: The Last Knight film. These are giant cardboard cut outs and they are very reminiscent of the character profiles from Age of Extinction promotional posters. These were found on arun09345's instagram page.

Enjoy!

These look like the kind of things that would be on the characters' toy packaging. Especially Megatron's.

bumblebee same look same pose.
optimus same look same pose .
megatron same pose ugly face.
i dont see a difference except for megatron and bumblebees new chest.

The horns on Megatron's helmet are making me think of a ram.

Looking at these more simplified versions of th movie designs, I think, really highlights the worsening flaws in the bayformers visual philosophy. NO CAR PARTS. STREAMLINE, STREAMLINE, STREAMLINE.

Optimus and megstron don't look capable of transforming into anything, and the effects on bumblebee are starting to show.