Transformers Subscription Service 4.0 Bludgeon Arriving Shortly

Mine arrived in Erie, PA this morning.

Looks like Bludgeon has the same assembly error that Pyra Magna had with the knee triangle peg facing the wrong direction.

Ebonyleopard wrote:Looks like Bludgeon has the same assembly error that Pyra Magna had with the knee triangle peg facing the wrong direction.

So far I've only handled Hot Spot. Is this error a serious problem and/or easily fixable?

For that matter, not having handled Onslaught yet either (sick of double-dipping, so I'm saving up for UW) my biggest concern upon opening Bludgeon is whether it's possible to configure the turret assembly so I'm not constantly worried about chipping the yellow paint off his vestigial light bars when I rotate it, without revealing the Thunderhead. Any way besides just bending his legs down a tad?

I had shared the opinion that they should've given Cyclonus or Scattershot Thunderwing's inner robot head for the torso instead, but the instant I transformed Blood-slaught, I warmed up to him. His head sculpt is the perfect balance of his G1 robot and shell heads. The MofM even goes right in his chest! Sure, you have to shake it out to transform him out of robot mode, which means even further nerve-wracking, but that's part of the fun!

ya know, I thought thunder mayhem would look dumber than he does in person. The main thing that honestly annoys me about him, overall, is he suffers from flat headback. Otherwise I kinda enjoy him. Also, you can make a pretty wicked looking scissor weapon by putting the swords forward pegs into the holes in each side of one hand. You have to twist the fist a bit to get it to fit because of the long handles, but it looks badass. The misassembly is relatively easy to fix, there's only one pin on the outside to worry about (the one holding the foot on) and then you just need to punch out a second one on the inside. hoping someone comes up with an insertable matrix chamber to keep it nice and snug in bludgeon and easily removable.

durroth wrote:ya know, I thought thunder mayhem would look dumber than he does in person. The main thing that honestly annoys me about him, overall, is he suffers from flat headback. Otherwise I kinda enjoy him. Also, you can make a pretty wicked looking scissor weapon by putting the swords forward pegs into the holes in each side of one hand. You have to twist the fist a bit to get it to fit because of the long handles, but it looks badass. The misassembly is relatively easy to fix, there's only one pin on the outside to worry about (the one holding the foot on) and then you just need to punch out a second one on the inside. hoping someone comes up with an insertable matrix chamber to keep it nice and snug in bludgeon and easily removable.

Popping pins is so damn scary for me.

william-james88 wrote:

durroth wrote:ya know, I thought thunder mayhem would look dumber than he does in person. The main thing that honestly annoys me about him, overall, is he suffers from flat headback. Otherwise I kinda enjoy him. Also, you can make a pretty wicked looking scissor weapon by putting the swords forward pegs into the holes in each side of one hand. You have to twist the fist a bit to get it to fit because of the long handles, but it looks badass. The misassembly is relatively easy to fix, there's only one pin on the outside to worry about (the one holding the foot on) and then you just need to punch out a second one on the inside. hoping someone comes up with an insertable matrix chamber to keep it nice and snug in bludgeon and easily removable.

Popping pins is so damn scary for me.

I'm not a modder so this scares me, too. So I'm more than a little disappointed.

kurthy wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

durroth wrote:ya know, I thought thunder mayhem would look dumber than he does in person. The main thing that honestly annoys me about him, overall, is he suffers from flat headback. Otherwise I kinda enjoy him. Also, you can make a pretty wicked looking scissor weapon by putting the swords forward pegs into the holes in each side of one hand. You have to twist the fist a bit to get it to fit because of the long handles, but it looks badass. The misassembly is relatively easy to fix, there's only one pin on the outside to worry about (the one holding the foot on) and then you just need to punch out a second one on the inside. hoping someone comes up with an insertable matrix chamber to keep it nice and snug in bludgeon and easily removable.

Popping pins is so damn scary for me.

I'm not a modder so this scares me, too. So I'm more than a little disappointed.

Most people who purchased this arent skilled with those tools neither. Most have chosen to just live with it. But just be aware of this since if you force things you will end up with stress marks.

william-james88 wrote:

kurthy wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

durroth wrote:ya know, I thought thunder mayhem would look dumber than he does in person. The main thing that honestly annoys me about him, overall, is he suffers from flat headback. Otherwise I kinda enjoy him. Also, you can make a pretty wicked looking scissor weapon by putting the swords forward pegs into the holes in each side of one hand. You have to twist the fist a bit to get it to fit because of the long handles, but it looks badass. The misassembly is relatively easy to fix, there's only one pin on the outside to worry about (the one holding the foot on) and then you just need to punch out a second one on the inside. hoping someone comes up with an insertable matrix chamber to keep it nice and snug in bludgeon and easily removable.

Popping pins is so damn scary for me.

I'm not a modder so this scares me, too. So I'm more than a little disappointed.

Most people who purchased this arent skilled with those tools neither. Most have chosen to just live with it. But just be aware of this since if you force things you will end up with stress marks.

Ha, snailman came earlier than I was expecting! The knee joints are much tighter than Hot spot, so no issues with him being wobbly. I can live with him being a little taller. BIG GIANT SWORDS!

You do not need to hassle with the pins. I followed this guide for both pyra magna and g2 onslaught. Shaved off the little nub/triangles. Clicks in perfectly on robot mode and no apparent effect on torso mode.

It did end up cracking the little posts but it doesn't even seem to matter. Might put in a tiny bit of glue later but whatever.

Note that hot spot and normal onslaught don't have this problem.

I'm a little leery of doing it to a high-level collectible like bludgeon, but I need to be able to click those knees in.

http://brickonator.tumblr.com/post/1440 ... a-knee-fix

For the record, neither of my G1 CW or UW Hotspots and Onslaughts have the misassembly. I just got Victorion the other day and Pyra Magna had the problem as did Bludgeon today. For Pyra Magna I unscrewed the legs and shaved the problem piece down and all that happened was the small, seemingly useless glued peg between the light bar broke but that's it. The screws hold everything together anyway so there wasn't a need to glue that tiny peg or to have it at all for that matter. For Bludgeon, I just stuck my exacto knife in and cut the piece off without taking the legs apart and nothing happened other than the removal of the little piece that was cut off.

I've heard of people just clipping the piece off with a toenail clipper too so removal of the problem piece isn't that difficult and doesn't require popping out any pins unless you don't want to cut the piece off and would rather keep your figure completely intact. I personally like transforming my figures over and over so to me, having completely working knees was a must. For those of you that just keep them combined and displayed, this may not be necessary to do at all.

I guess I'll have to do this again when I get a G2 Onslaught. Lets hope that G2 Hotspot won't have this problem even though it's an easy fix.

The Master of Mayhem has arrived. Soon Thunder shall shake the world.

Bludgeon was worth the wait, especially since I don't have Onslaught (I had vastly more disposable income last year than I do now, sadly).

I do wish there was somewhere to stash the swords in vehicle mode, but them's the breaks when it comes to putting in extra accessories.

Alpha Weltall wrote:Lets hope that G2 Hotspot won't have this problem even though it's an easy fix.

Why do you think there's even going to be a G2 Hot Spot? Liokaiser's slated to be the last Combiner Wars release.

Versions of the mold that don't have the leg misassembly:

• CW Hot Spot
• UW Hot Spot
• CW Onslaught
• UW Onslaught

Versions of the mold that DO have the leg misassembly:

• CW Pyra Magna
• CW G2 Onslaught
• CW Bludgeon

Alpha Weltall wrote:For the record, neither of my G1 CW or UW Hotspots and Onslaughts have the misassembly. I just got Victorion the other day and Pyra Magna had the problem as did Bludgeon today. For Pyra Magna I unscrewed the legs and shaved the problem piece down and all that happened was the small, seemingly useless glued peg between the light bar broke but that's it. The screws hold everything together anyway so there wasn't a need to glue that tiny peg or to have it at all for that matter. For Bludgeon, I just stuck my exacto knife in and cut the piece off without taking the legs apart and nothing happened other than the removal of the little piece that was cut off.

I've heard of people just clipping the piece off with a toenail clipper too so removal of the problem piece isn't that difficult and doesn't require popping out any pins unless you don't want to cut the piece off and would rather keep your figure completely intact. I personally like transforming my figures over and over so to me, having completely working knees was a must. For those of you that just keep them combined and displayed, this may not be necessary to do at all.

I guess I'll have to do this again when I get a G2 Onslaught. Lets hope that G2 Hotspot won't have this problem even though it's an easy fix.

You're little peg broke too (Glad I'm not the only one that had that happen. Seems like they glued the peg in because it won't separate easily on it's own. I just super glued it back once I used and Exacto Knife and just cut the little triangle peg off (Goes through real easy). I'm not even sure what the page is on there for anyway, since there's not lost functionality once it's gone.

Ebonyleopard wrote:

Alpha Weltall wrote:For the record, neither of my G1 CW or UW Hotspots and Onslaughts have the misassembly. I just got Victorion the other day and Pyra Magna had the problem as did Bludgeon today. For Pyra Magna I unscrewed the legs and shaved the problem piece down and all that happened was the small, seemingly useless glued peg between the light bar broke but that's it. The screws hold everything together anyway so there wasn't a need to glue that tiny peg or to have it at all for that matter. For Bludgeon, I just stuck my exacto knife in and cut the piece off without taking the legs apart and nothing happened other than the removal of the little piece that was cut off.

I've heard of people just clipping the piece off with a toenail clipper too so removal of the problem piece isn't that difficult and doesn't require popping out any pins unless you don't want to cut the piece off and would rather keep your figure completely intact. I personally like transforming my figures over and over so to me, having completely working knees was a must. For those of you that just keep them combined and displayed, this may not be necessary to do at all.

I guess I'll have to do this again when I get a G2 Onslaught. Lets hope that G2 Hotspot won't have this problem even though it's an easy fix.

You're little peg broke too (Glad I'm not the only one that had that happen. Seems like they glued the peg in because it won't separate easily on it's own. I just super glued it back once I used and Exacto Knife and just cut the little triangle peg off (Goes through real easy). I'm not even sure what the page is on there for anyway, since there's not lost functionality once it's gone.

If you take a look at Hotspot or CW Onslaught in torso mode, you can see that the triangle nub seems to almost act like a brace within the thigh assembly.

But it also doesn't really seem to lose any stability or ... anything when not there.

With the misassembly, the nub isn't doing *anything* properly as it is, so shaving it off doesn't change anything on Magna, G2, Bludgeon...

Got mine today too. Now, if only I knew where all their HFG modules went... Just call my Combiner Stumpy!

Ergh...

Anyone out there willing to pop the pins on my figures for a reasonable fee? I haven't decided, but I am considering trying to get that done to Bludgeon and my Pyra Magna once it arrives (even though, obviously, these will stay in combined mode most of the time.)

In vain, I emailed the collectors club about it. No luck on getting them adjusted as the joints, as they are, don't "adversely affect the toy aesthetic nor its ability to convert from robot to vehicle." Though, I'm guessing they haven't really played with a Hot Spot without locked knees...

Why would the Club adjust anything for your Bludgeon?

It's annoying, I agree. I don't like how it looks or holds without the knees locked in as they do on the retail of Hot Spot and Onslaught; that's why I fixed Magna and G2 Onslaught.

But it's Hasbro's fault. Whatever happened with the assembly process for the past three versions of the mold, it's been assembled backwards. It's not FunPub's fault. They received the toy as assembled, and it's not exclusive to them. Give FB all the flak in the world for when they make bad decisions, but this one isn't really on them. =)

Just shave off the plastic triangles, man. You don't need to go all the way to doing the pins to fix it.

My concern with that is that if I ever end up selling them, they would technically be damaged, and therefore worth less (not worthless, but worth less.)

And I didn't mean to make it sound like I was blaming Fanpub for the misassembly, (though I did assume the TFCC were the assemblers) I just really disagree with the 'not being adversely affected.' That's all. In general, I am fond of FanPub- regardless of what my wallet has to say.

That's true, it may affect resale. Successfully transferring the pins would be less adverse. Ugh. Now I have second thoughts on modding it. It's tough because I am likely to display the Mayhems individually versus their combined form... =P

I assume that Bludgeon was too far into production when the Victorion issue was discovered (as was G2 Bruticus). Should Hasbro use the mold again I wonder if they'll fix the assembly error.

Welp, if usual border times hold, the earliest I'll have my Bludgeon in Canada is next Friday. So probably the week after. =D

Resale is whatever people want to pay, and since this is a factory error, its gonna affect the whole board, not just yours. It might take the whole playing field down, but it will be level. I wouldnt worry about it the way a paint scuff would affect ya. Besides, who knows what Thunder Mayhem will be worth down the road? Hemight be one of those surprise novelties, hemight ultimately be a dud.

Seibertron.com has just rolled out another whole new group of toy galleries! Not even two days ago it was Beast Machines Tankor and Thrust, and today it's a few members of the Collector's Club exclusive Combiner team, the Mayhem Attack Squad! We'll be taking a look at some of the biggest (and some of the smallest) members of the team, Bludgeon, Spinister, And Windsweeper. Plus the mini-cons, Singe and Shrute. Don't forget to check out the combined form of the Mayhem Attack Squad ... THUNDER MAYHEM! Check out a hand-picked selection below, then find the full galleries by clicking on any of the images below, or the character's names above!

Subscription Service Thunder Mayhem (88 images) - Combiners, Subscription Service










Subscription Service Bludgeon (142 images) - Combiners, Subscription Service, Voyager Class










Subscription Service Windsweeper (117 images) - Combiners, Deluxe Class, Subscription Service










Subscription Service Spinister (143 images) - Deluxe Class, Subscription Service, Targetmasters








Subscription Service Singe (64 images) - Subscription Service, Targetmasters








Subscription Service Shrute (61 images) - Subscription Service, Targetmasters

Can we talk about Spinister's eyes please?

Dr Va'al wrote:Can we talk about Spinister's eyes please?

You mean how fans voted for them to be toy/Marvel-accurate rather than IDW-accurate?

Sabrblade wrote:

Dr Va'al wrote:Can we talk about Spinister's eyes please?

You mean how fans voted for them to be toy-accurate rather than Marvel Comic-accurate?

I just feel like he'd also be happy to talk about them.

Dr Va'al wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Dr Va'al wrote:Can we talk about Spinister's eyes please?

You mean how fans voted for them to be toy/Marvel-accurate rather than IDW-accurate?

I just feel like he'd also be happy to talk about them.

He looks angry to me.

Sabrblade wrote:

Dr Va'al wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Dr Va'al wrote:Can we talk about Spinister's eyes please?

You mean how fans voted for them to be toy-accurate rather than Marvel Comic-accurate?

I just feel like he'd also be happy to talk about them.

He looks angry to me.

Because no one is talking about them!

Sabrblade wrote:

Dr Va'al wrote:Can we talk about Spinister's eyes please?

You mean how fans voted for them to be toy-accurate rather than Marvel Comic-accurate?

I wouldn't call that toy accurate, regardless if that's what it is trying to emulate. Would have just been better to give him a full red visor or a new head sculpt altogether. This head looks too amateurish with the fake eyes and nose.

Seibertron wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Dr Va'al wrote:Can we talk about Spinister's eyes please?

You mean how fans voted for them to be toy-accurate rather than Marvel Comic-accurate?

I wouldn't call that toy accurate, regardless if that's what it is trying to emulate. Would have just been better to give him a full red visor or a new head sculpt altogether. This head looks too amateurish with the fake eyes and nose.

Whoops, I made a mistake. The teal-outlined eyes were both toy-accurate and Marvel comic-accurate. The alternative was IDW comic-accurate.

The choices were either "black outlines around the eyes" (IDW) or "teal outlines around the eyes" (toy/Marvel). The latter won.

I wish the Combiner figure as a wholebgkt its own bio card.

I voted for the teal and I'm happy with the results.

Guess it makes more sense for him to be Marvel-accurate. Being a Deluxe wouldn't quite for an IDW Spinister; he's a bit of a big boy.



Despite, ironically, being one of the small Targetmasters...

The regrets. I has them. Shoulda signed up for the subscription service!!

I feel for ya! I had to sell a couple pieces of Lego and tf to afford it (along with some bits like uw Computron) and it's been well worth it

Sabrblade wrote:

Seibertron wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Dr Va'al wrote:Can we talk about Spinister's eyes please?

You mean how fans voted for them to be toy-accurate rather than Marvel Comic-accurate?

I wouldn't call that toy accurate, regardless if that's what it is trying to emulate. Would have just been better to give him a full red visor or a new head sculpt altogether. This head looks too amateurish with the fake eyes and nose.

Whoops, I made a mistake. The teal-outlined eyes were both toy-accurate and Marvel comic-accurate. The alternative was IDW comic-accurate.

The choices were either "black outlines around the eyes" (IDW) or "teal outlines around the eyes" (toy/Marvel). The latter won.

I would've voted black, but either would have been fine if that's what the final product actually looked like. the way it is, it'd be better off just having a full red visor.

So, does anyone else think the combiner head kind of has a little bit of a bobblehead feel to it? I think it is the overall head shape at the bottom as compared to Bruticus, but it just looks a little weird to me, almost like the neck is too long.

I love the figure. Brilliant to me!

The Thunder Mayhem combiner look goofy and ackward as hell... And I LOVE it!
Too bad getting it is ludicrously expensive.

Dr Va'al wrote:Can we talk about Spinister's eyes please?

Sure we can pffffffttthahahahahaahaHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH

The Mayhem Attack Squad are now all up for individual order in the Club Store, in case you missed out on the subscription. The Deluxes are $69 each, Bludgeon is $79.

https://www.toyarama.com/store/transformers-featured-products-c7.php?template_package=transformers

These are the "extras" left after they ship out all the figures to active subscription holders.

TF_JW wrote:The Mayhem Attack Squad are now all up for individual order in the Club Store, in case you missed out on the subscription. The Deluxes are $69 each, Bludgeon is $79.

https://www.toyarama.com/store/transformers-featured-products-c7.php?template_package=transformers

These are the "extras" left after they ship out all the figures to active subscription holders.

So, that's 360$ for the set. In US dollars. Plus shipping. Plus sureshot custom fees.

Okay, I got this!

Seibertron.com is proud to bring to you today our latest gallery, that of Botcon 2016 Exclusives Reflector and Flash Sentry!

Reflector and Flash Sentry are both retools of the Combiner War Shockwave with new heads. Reflector utilizes Shockwave's arms and the way they tab to force 3 of his toys to come together and form his camera mode. Cameras this size will probably only be able to be handled by titan class transformers, and have a high probability of shooting you instead of capturing your image for picture frames. This is also the first modern toy of Reflector that takes into account his 3 different components to make his camera mode, unlike his Thrilling 30 toy (which turns into a gun, so both will probably shoot you). He was available to Transformers Collectors Club members as well as those who attended Botcon 2016.

Flash Sentry is a repaint of the Reflector mold, transforming into a gun that can be held by any of the Combiner Wars figures. He can also use the Shockwave arms to plug into Reflector and help form a camera, or if you somehow had 3 of him he could make his own translucent camera mode. Flash Sentry was only available to Golden Ticket Attendees. He is a member of the Photons, a subgroup of Decepticons led by Reflector.

You can check out the full Seibertron.com gallery by clicking on any of the images below, and you can let us know what you think of them in the comment section below!

BotCon Exclusives Reflector (121 images) - Legends Class










BotCon Exclusives Flash Sentry (77 images) - Legends Class

Can we get some pictures of this Bot Con reflector using the little Reflector that came with Sharpshot if it's possible please?

I donno, man. The innovation is great, but if that's a camera then one wall and no roof makes a house....

thats a very clever use of the shockwave mold
with a little bit of retooling we could have something very close

I find this whole ordeal disrespectful to all the fans and collectors who've been waiting YEARS for a decent Reflector at retail. Not a $90 half@ssed remold from a washed up greedy 2nd party.

I blame Hasbro for this.

YoungPrime wrote:I find this whole ordeal disrespectful to all the fans and collectors who've been waiting YEARS for a decent Reflector at retail. Not a $90 half@ssed remold from a washed up greedy 2nd party.

I blame Hasbro for this.

That's hilarious, as it is a hasbro design, the original use for the mold if I'm not mistaken. It was also hasbro who gave it to funpub for them to use. It was likely canned due to not making a very good camera mode or something. And for a 3 pack, it was no more expensive than anything else they've released

Hellscream9999 wrote:

YoungPrime wrote:I find this whole ordeal disrespectful to all the fans and collectors who've been waiting YEARS for a decent Reflector at retail. Not a $90 half@ssed remold from a washed up greedy 2nd party.

I blame Hasbro for this.

That's hilarious, as it is a hasbro design, the original use for the mold if I'm not mistaken. It was also hasbro who gave it to funpub for them to use. It was likely canned due to not making a very good camera mode or something. And for a 3 pack, it was no more expensive than anything else they've released

He did say he blamed Hasbro for it rather than blaming Fun Pub, so he's at least blaming the right guilty party.

Sabrblade wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

YoungPrime wrote:I find this whole ordeal disrespectful to all the fans and collectors who've been waiting YEARS for a decent Reflector at retail. Not a $90 half@ssed remold from a washed up greedy 2nd party.

I blame Hasbro for this.

That's hilarious, as it is a hasbro design, the original use for the mold if I'm not mistaken. It was also hasbro who gave it to funpub for them to use. It was likely canned due to not making a very good camera mode or something. And for a 3 pack, it was no more expensive than anything else they've released

He did say he blamed Hasbro for it rather than blaming Fun Pub, so he's at least blaming the right guilty party.

Just saying that they had their reasons for not releasing it (like cw ratchet, and all the many, many others that we don't know about), probably because they couldn't find a size class to put 3 identical figures together in, and that parents wouldn't buy it if it was, can't just throw out the rules of business just for some G1 fans

I absolutely adore reflector and still think it is the clear cut winner from BotCon 2016 exclusives which is probably the reason why this is the only one I bought.