Transformers Studio Series SS-90 AOE Galvatron Revealed with Info From Designer

It just looks... bad.

The square frame behind the robot mode chest give this figure one-step changer vibes, and the kibble on the back of the truck mode doesn't even pretend to not be robot parts they couldn't find a place to store. If you're gonna put robot feet on the back of a truck at least do it G1 Prime style. Sure they'll still look like obvious feet, but at least it doesn't break the silhouette of the truck.

Holy mother of monkey milk….that is a seriously ugly figure. It’s absolutely astounding to me that there are people defending it. I haven’t seen a figure in a really long time that has such little redeeming qualities about it visually. In both modes. Dear gosh.

whacko wrote:It just looks... bad.

The square frame behind the robot mode chest give this figure one-step changer vibes, and the kibble on the back of the truck mode doesn't even pretend to not be robot parts they couldn't find a place to store. If you're gonna put robot feet on the back of a truck at least do it G1 Prime style. Sure they'll still look like obvious feet, but at least it doesn't break the silhouette of the truck.

Haha this made me laugh out loud. I was JUST on another forum mentioning how it looks exactly like a 2011 one step changer in both modes. Thank heavens I’m not going crazy.

Its because of the initial design not being made to transform like normal. The only way they would be more accurate would be putting more money into it, which would come with other problems.

Still, I like it for what the designers are trying to achieve and how they reduced the back pack from the original Voyager. The feet thing I can overlook quite easily.

Well... no.

As others have already said, the back part of the robot makes it all appear boxy.
In the alt mode, those two "things" on the rear have nothing to do with the original design and have no reason to be.

It's clear that Galvatron was a difficult job: but this isn't a great figure.

Considering that impossible design had to be worked in voyager size and budget, it's a valiant effort. I can forgive the bot cancer growth as a "trailer hitch" for the truck mode, but the boxy chest is indeed an eyesore. Yet they reduced the backpack to a minimum and even added bot details on the back which makes me very forgiving of the boxy chest.

I'll be preordering that Galvatron for sure. That transformation will be a blast!

-Kanrabat- wrote:Considering that impossible design had to be worked in voyager size and budget, it's a valiant effort. I can forgive the bot cancer growth as a "trailer hitch" for the truck mode, but the boxy chest is indeed an eyesore. Yet they reduced the backpack to a minimum and even added bot details on the back which makes me very forgiving of the boxy chest.

I'll be preordering that Galvatron for sure. That transformation will be a blast!

Agreed, seems people were expecting the impossible for some reason (especially at that price point)

Almost every bay-former has the front on silhouette ruined by a backpack (dino comes to mind), I don't know why this figure is receiving all the hate, the figure is otherwise impossible to engineer, especially at such a small scale. If the prevailing design ethos was: "if it can't be done perfectly, don't bother doing it at all", we wouldn't have any bayformers ever

The problem is not the backpack itself: the problem is that the lower part of the squared shape is exacùtly where the pelvis begins: so it looks kinda a cube with a robot inside...

Ugly figure not my taste, those who like it enjoy!!

I’m really impressed with how clean they got bot mode, It’s really cool that he actually has back detailing with the chest hole!

Barricade.it wrote:The problem is not the backpack itself: the problem is that the lower part of the squared shape is exacùtly where the pelvis begins: so it looks kinda a cube with a robot inside...

I suspect it wont quite have that same silhouette in hand. Just look at how much it changed just turning his waist and leaning him forward a bit.



I think there's probably more of a gap between his really big (screen accurate) hips and the squaring off of his lower torso that doesn't come across so well in a flat photo.

Emerje

Barricade.it wrote:The problem is not the backpack itself: the problem is that the lower part of the squared shape is exacùtly where the pelvis begins: so it looks kinda a cube with a robot inside...

Yes, hence why people equate this to a one step design where you basically have a robot mode sculpted on a facade (which looks really like that when you compare the CG model with the toy side to side).

There is nice sculpted detail and the transformation will be really something, I am looking forward to that. I do still enjoy that prevous voyager, it has one of the best truck modes of all time.

Honestly for the price point, its budget, the sheer lack of defined truck parts on the robot mode, AND the extremely impossible to replicate transformation sequence...I think they genuinely knocked it out of the park. I do think the arms feel a bit shrimpy because of the box bod...but it still looks really nice and isn't a shellformer like the AoE toy, and it still manages to avoid a lot of kibble in the robot mode which really shocks me with how there are no truck bits in the CGI model. Honestly the bits on the back of the truck barely bother me (the front looks fantastic - who stares at a cab's hitch anyway?) especially if it resulted in such a kibble-free robo bro. Definitely picking him up.

He looks good overall.He just could use a little more bulk to his arms.Makes me wish they used a leader class spot for him,so that they could use more plastic for his design.



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william-james88 wrote: I do still enjoy that prevous voyager, it has one of the best truck modes of all time.

I remember way back then that you didn't liked AoE Voyager Galvatron at all. So it means that one day, you found one for cheap, bought it because "why not", then warmed to it once in hand?

Quite an engineering feat. Impressive. I love the behind the scenes info.

SS Galvatron: a triumph of kibble/shell management (for Hasbro's level of budgetary-minded engineering), a mess of body proportion.

I'm keeping the original AOE (repainted & modded -- the backpack is now a shield) Galvatron, it looks a ton better.

For me this figure is middle of the road. I'm disappointed by some things, impressed by others.

The truck mode is probably my 2nd favorite villain in Bayverse after Sentinel Prime. This figure seems to get it right with the exception of those things on the back.

The robot mode is alright, it's a slight improvement over the original voyager. I'm not as bothered by the boxy effect as some of you, but it is noticeable.

I still think that if this 7.5-inch figure (since saying "voyager-size" when referring to actual size is now a reason for some to get butthurt) received leader class budgeting, the engineering could have improved it some. They did it to SS86 Hot Rod, so why not here?

I was really looking forward to this, but my enthusiasm has been dampened some. This will be an in-hand decision.

If they wanted to do a proper Galvatron, just use leftover Kreo bricks. Build the truck, then take it apart to build the robot, just like in the movie.

Rodimus Prime wrote:The truck mode is probably my 2nd favorite villain in Bayverse after Sentinel Prime. This figure seems to get it right with the exception of those things on the back.

The robot mode is alright, it's a slight improvement over the original voyager. I'm not as bothered by the boxy effect as some of you, but it is noticeable.

I think if you pull out the old AOE Galvy to compare the truck modes, the new SS version is also worse - exposed hinges, more panel lines, and of course the kibble at the back of the truck.

Robot mode, it's not just about the boxy torso, it's just... not as imposing looking as the old version from the early renders. To my eyes anyway.

The 2 major gripes (i.e. something I can't solve by modding) I have with the old version is the position of the knees & hip joints, which the SS no doubt solved by better engineering. So it's not like the new SS version doesn't have its merit.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:If they wanted to do a proper Galvatron, just use leftover Kreo bricks. Build the truck, then take it apart to build the robot, just like in the movie.

No, not Kreo. They should license Nanoblock for the job on ALL the "Transformium" bots.

Sorry for the rant, but Transformium... what a stupid idea. It's not even visually impressive in the movie and does Hasbro no favor for toy engineering.

Not even Nan9blocks would do 5he OG transformation justice.
We would need DUST "bricks".

I never cared for Bayverse's interpretations of Megatron and/or Galvatron. This SS Galvatron is an improvement over the Age of Extinction figure - but that's not exactly shooting for the moon, is it? The original movie figures were awful. They had the feel of stuffing robot parts into one of those plastic easter eggs. I guess anything past that is a step up.

But, those who like the Bayverse figures can once again make off like bandits, because they won't have to worry about ME taking any of these and reducing their chances of finding one...

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote: I do still enjoy that prevous voyager, it has one of the best truck modes of all time.

I remember way back then that you didn't liked AoE Voyager Galvatron at all. So it means that one day, you found one for cheap, bought it because "why not", then warmed to it once in hand?

Yes exactly. You inspired me to get one.

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote: I do still enjoy that prevous voyager, it has one of the best truck modes of all time.

I remember way back then that you didn't liked AoE Voyager Galvatron at all. So it means that one day, you found one for cheap, bought it because "why not", then warmed to it once in hand?

Yes exactly. You inspired me to get one.

I feel like giving that figure the premium line treatment would make him amazing, so much detail to paint. Would have been nice if te backpack had been a removable shield.

I actually kinda get the problem with this new galvatron, the cab front looks like it actually bisects the torso as opposed to being an actual backpack, so yeah, not great, but I'll still enjoy him a lot.

I'll get Galvatron simply because I'm addicted to plastic and he doesn't looks terrible while the transformation looks interesting.

So yeah, right up my alley.

I was looking forward to this reveal for a long time, I love the studio series and I am glad they are still making them, galvatron is my 2nd favorite character, i wish they would make a few versions of him,, but the quality has gone down with this one, and this has got to be a fan favorite, along with the fallen, witch after seeing this, i am worried about what the fallen will look like,

the only decent version of this amazing character is the nero galvatron, witch is 3rd party, and the price is ridiculous for it, and of course, it is not in scale with the studio series,
so when I heard news that it was finally happening I was so excited, skip to this reveal,
a few months back I had found what I thought was an amazing deal on the nero galvatron, had bought it, and of course it turned out to be to good to be true, and have waited 3 month's for it to never show,
so when I seen that it was announced, and shown, I couldn't wait to finally see it, but after seeing it,,,, I can't even describe how disappointing it is,

for 1, it definitely should have been a leader class, tech its not too late for them to postpone this and go back and redo it, or at least make a 2nd one, that is a Lil different and a leader,
because galvatron should be looking down to prime, on top of that, if it was a leader class, they would have more room to play around with, and maybe we could have got something half as good as the nero,
it should at least be as big as ss34 megatron, with more bulky arms,

2 it has some of the worst kibble, but even with that it's arms and his cannon are ridiculously small, way too skinny,
and still his arms don't sit well to his blocky chest, they seem to strangely have the same design as blackout's,

3, and this is a big problem, he doesn't have his arm blade's,,,
why on earth would they make a studio series figure, and not make him screen accurate, that should have been a easy thing to add and the arm blade's were an important part of his part in the movie,

4 if the bot mode was sacrificed for some strange reason to make the truck look good, why doesn't it look better, it got super panel's, and the feet are clearly visible, plus i didn't see his launcher,,,,

5 the blocky chest, and back look terrible,

6 the face isn't very accurate at all,

after all this time I just don't get why this looks like it was rushed out the door, like the first 1,
if it was a leader class maybe could have done something new and surprising, like be the first studio series to have multiple face sculpts, maybe add battery compartment and have the eyes and especially the chest reactor light up, that could have been super cool,
extra weapons or 2 different modes,
cause im sure a lot of fans would love love love a good galvatron, and would buy it in a instant,

Hellscream9999 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

william-james88 wrote: I do still enjoy that prevous voyager, it has one of the best truck modes of all time.

I remember way back then that you didn't liked AoE Voyager Galvatron at all. So it means that one day, you found one for cheap, bought it because "why not", then warmed to it once in hand?

Yes exactly. You inspired me to get one.

I feel like giving that figure the premium line treatment would make him amazing, so much detail to paint. Would have been nice if te backpack had been a removable shield.

I actually kinda get the problem with this new galvatron, the cab front looks like it actually bisects the torso as opposed to being an actual backpack, so yeah, not great, but I'll still enjoy him a lot.

The Takara version already has the premium paint job.
I want it but unfortunately, it's worth a fortune.



Takara on the right.

Incoming Studio Series reveals!

We can see the deluxe components of the next wave, DOTM Bumblebee, ROTF Sideways, and 86 Arcee.

A few things we can tell on Bumblebee, who this is our first look at:
- reuses the TLK/SS-01 head sculpt
- They did remold the central chest piece in bot mode! Very excited about that
- Unfortunately, we can't see if they remolded the alt mode grill or collar pieces yet

With the upcoming reveal of SS DOTM Bumblebee, I wanted to show this breakdown I made a little while ago showing all of the changes (mold-wise, anyway) that could be remolded from SS ROTF Bee to get Bumblebee's different design in DOTM!

I don't expect all of these parts to be remolded (the tires and secondary wings are, I would say, lower priority than the new chest and spoiler - also, the new secondary wings would require changing the transformation), but here's showing what all the differences are between the models. There are paint differences too, such as the stripes running over the roof in alt mode and the black details on the foreamr shields, but this just looks at remolding. We can already tell the central chest piece (the one outlined in blue in the first picture) has been remolded, so that's exciting!

That's the Thrilling 30 Arcee mold!

Well this is quite the surprise. Fans were DREADING the fabled Studio Series 86 Arcee since all rumours indicated to this being yet another rerelease of Earthrise Arcee (which surprisingly didn't shelfwarm as bas as fans feared in the Kingdom line). However, Takara gave us a preview of what they will be revealing soon and while they are usually late to the party compared to Hasbro, this preview shows us SS86 Arcee and we can see that it is not the Earthrise mold. This is very peculiar. While Takara is doing the reveal, this Arcee is a Hasbro product (the only toy made solely by Takara in the list is MP Trailbreaker) and this would mean that for a new "movie accurate" Arcee, they would rather go back to what looks to be the T30 mold from 2014 than the more recent Earhtrise mold. This is unprecedented in the Studio Series line. We also have an obscured shot of the upcoming DOTM Bumblebee. Fellow Seibertronian EvasionModeBumblebee told us about these images and wrote that from the image, it looks like the toy reuses the TLK/SS-01 head sculpt and they remolded the central chest piece in bot mode from the previous SS ROTF Bumblebee. Unfortunately, we can't see if they remolded the alt mode grill or collar pieces yet. The other figure shown is Sideways. These will be revealed within a day.

Pretty sure the middle one is sideways, not sideswipe
I am very excited to see sideways officially. Hopefully The Fallen is also being shown here.

I had a feeling Arcee wasn't really shelfwarming because while I do see some warming the pegs at the Walmarts and Targets I've been to, it's usually only a few...meanwhile those Blurrs, Kups, Wreck-Gars, and Sweeps just refuse to sell, heh!
They probably made sure not to pack too many Arcees per case or somethin'...

They are looking cool,though I'm not sure the 2014 Arcee looks more movie/cartoon accurate than the Earthrise one.

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LinaNui wrote:Pretty sure the middle one is sideways, not sideswipe
I am very excited to see sideways officially. Hopefully The Fallen is also being shown here.

They releasd the entire list of reveals and these are the only SS toys, the rest are toys we already knew are coming.

And thanks for catching that, I will change it.

T30 Arcee would be fine so long as they retool/redesign the lower torso, lower legs, lower arms, hips and face. Okay, the face isn't bad. It's just that it's too motherly? kind? non-threatening? I can't quite place it but that face just doesn't look like the face of a Transformer. I just laugh at her when she's holding weapons. Especially the swords. Or more like tries to hold the weapons that is.

It's a good looking figure don't get me wrong, it's just pretty trash when it comes to doing anything other than standing straight upright. It's always been trash too. I never really cared much for it. It has a decent amount of articulation but just doesn't do anything convincingly or dynamically. It's just not a fun toy. Say what you will about Earthrise Arcee but at least she's fun as an action figure.

That silhouette of Arcee doesn't quite look like a stock T30 Arcee though. The lower torso looks like it's completely reworked. Normally it's rounded off but it looks very angular in the silhouette. You can see that there looks like a trapezoid in the middle of it. The hips look like they've been reworked as well as their silhouette doesn't quite line up with what the figure's stock hips look like. Both could just be my imagination and wishful thinking getting away with itself as it's late and it's a silhouette. But that lower torso definitely has something different going on with it. There's no way I'm imagining that. I just hope she can actually hold her weapons for once though without risk of breaking the hands, the weapons just falling out or them not going all the way into hands due to intentional blockages. Ankle pivots sure would be nice too.

Sabrblade wrote:That's the Thrilling 30 Arcee mold!

Hopefully this time it will have the proper paint job.

My original T-30 Arcee is badly yellowed so I may get that "new" SS86 version to replace her.

The only use of the T30 Arcee mold I don't have is the one from the Platinum box set so I look forward to adding this one to the collection.

Emerje

EvasionModeBumblebee wrote:With the upcoming reveal of SS DOTM Bumblebee, I wanted to show this breakdown I made a little while ago showing all of the changes (mold-wise, anyway) that could be remolded from SS ROTF Bee to get Bumblebee's different design in DOTM!

I don't expect all of these parts to be remolded (the tires and secondary wings are, I would say, lower priority than the new chest and spoiler - also, the new secondary wings would require changing the transformation), but here's showing what all the differences are between the models. There are paint differences too, such as the stripes running over the roof in alt mode and the black details on the foreamr shields, but this just looks at remolding. We can already tell the central chest piece (the one outlined in blue in the first picture) has been remolded, so that's exciting!

I think we can be sure the robot chest and the car's front and bonnet will be remolded, as they changed those parts for the Revenge of the Fallen release. The collar piece and the thigh pieces that form the front of the back wheelwells are a maybe. As for the tires, the back of the car and the lower wings, I doubt very much that they'll change those.

There is a post on Reddit that is of what appears to be the T30 Arcee with a remolded rear that folds better in bot mode and closes the gaps in alt mode. She also looks to have rocker ankles. Ill pull the image from my phone and DL it here

Wile similar, that doesn't look like a straight re-use of the t-30 arcee. Proportions and shape are different. also the shell backpack seems different as well, with the wheels being the only part that looks the same. it could be based on the t-3o mold, like how ER starscream was based on classics. part of that backpack, and some of the shoulder area makes me think of the legacy elita-1 though.

This is the photo from reddit, make your own decision but it sure looks to me like T30 remastered.

Rtron wrote:
I think we can be sure the robot chest and the car's front and bonnet will be remolded, as they changed those parts for the Revenge of the Fallen release. The collar piece and the thigh pieces that form the front of the back wheelwells are a maybe. As for the tires, the back of the car and the lower wings, I doubt very much that they'll change those.

I agree, though I think the back of the car is more likely since they need to add the spoiler.

Cyber Bishop wrote:This is the photo from reddit, make your own decision but it sure looks to me like T30 remastered.

yup, forget what I said before, that is without a doubt the same arcee used for the teaser image.

Immortal Starscream wrote:yup, forget what I said before, that is without a doubt the same arcee used for the teaser image.

Yeah when I saw it posted there then that image I said to myself the exact same thing, I even took my T30 and earthrise to look at the comparison. It looks like they may have given her the ER head too which pleases me.

Cyber Bishop wrote:

Immortal Starscream wrote:yup, forget what I said before, that is without a doubt the same arcee used for the teaser image.

Yeah when I saw it posted there then that image I said to myself the exact same thing, I even took my T30 and earthrise to look at the comparison. It looks like they may have given her the ER head too which pleases me.

zooming in and trying to clear up the image a bit, it looks like there is quite a bit of new tooling here, and not just on the even worse backpack. her thighs, though mostly obscured are definitely all new, and sadly hollow. her calves look the same, but with the new ankles may have new tooling. her arms, or at least her forearms seem a little different as well, missing the tab slots. though the biceps do look to have the same hollow bits. the only parts that look like direct re-use seem to be the chest, and the front fenders. Betting her "belly" area is the same, though cant tell due to the text

Immortal Starscream wrote:zooming in and trying to clear up the image a bit, it looks like there is quite a bit of new tooling here, and not just on the even worse backpack. her thighs, though mostly obscured are definitely all new, and sadly hollow. her calves look the same, but with the new ankles may have new tooling. her arms, or at least her forearms seem a little different as well, missing the tab slots. though the biceps do look to have the same hollow bits. the only parts that look like direct re-use seem to be the chest, and the front fenders. Betting her "belly" area is the same, though cant tell due to the text

I have been sitting here all morning doing the same, trying to figure out what looks reworked but the damn letters have to be in the way.. Also Looks like the wheels are not in the back of her thighs anymore and must be part of the reworked rear section.