Transformers Studio Series Bumblebee Then and Now 2 pack now online at Target.com and found in store

Sabrblade wrote:That rusty VW Bumblebee is the same one that Takara will be releasing individually as the 7net exclusive SS-EX 1967 Rusty Bumblebee.

ZeroWolf wrote:Its interesting to note that the VW Beetle Bee is the sane as the recently announced Takara Studio Series exclusive "Rusty" VW Bee.

Sentinel_Primal wrote:I feel like these Studio Series packs aren't quite the deal I was hoping they'd be... It looks like both figures here lose paint apps. TLK Bee looks like he doesn't have the silver on his legs or forearms anymore, and BB Bee looks like he's lost the forearms as well and the paint on the toes. Though... He did gain the rust details, so at least there's that?

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Still better than Bandai America's usual paint budget

william-james88 wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Still better than Bandai America's usual paint budget

They have a paint budget?!???

carytheone wrote:You know, I had toys that looked just like this as a kid...



...though I'm not sure if it would have counted as a premium deco, definitely authentic.

I wonder if anyone will try and remove the "rust" from this Bee like folks are planning on doing with the "battle damage" on the Siege figures?

Nathaniel Prime wrote:I did find the Retro Mix. Vol. 2 set in a ThinkGeek store. But for 70$ and Bee being so small, along with me having little interest in the cassettes, I'm going to pass on it.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:He should be thrown at the Bumblebee Movie's director for his okaying Dropkick as a triple-changer. It was a dumb idea with Drift in Age of Extinction and it's a dumb idea with Dropkick. Triple-changing and Earth-mode Bayformers don't mix.

Hip-Hoptimus Rime wrote:That scene in the Bee trailer when Shatter and Dropkick fly in, transform into cars for a moment, then again into bots is cringe-inducing. Takes me right out of the movie.

ZeroWolf wrote:I'm a bit confused why don't they mix exactly? Surely if they're designed as triple changers from the get go and this movie is acting as a soft reset, then I'm not sure I see a problem?

-Kanrabat- wrote:I'd have no problem with a triple changing deluxe movie bot. The solution is piss-easy. Give the bot a main Earth mode, and a nice bot design. Then make the extra form a "Cybertronian hey-give-us-a-break-we're-playing-it-by-ear" mode.
It could work. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

carytheone wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I'm a bit confused why don't they mix exactly? Surely if they're designed as triple changers from the get go and this movie is acting as a soft reset, then I'm not sure I see a problem?

Probably because the designs are too detailed and already require complicated engineering to pull off the movie accurate robots with realistic alt-modes. Triple changers in other lines have to make sacrifices as is to all three modes. Pulling off a believable muscle car and helicopter and semi screen accurate movie bot in plastic would be a difficult feat of engineering.

A lot of the movie figures already struggle with just two screen accurate modes.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I'd have no problem with a triple changing deluxe movie bot. The solution is piss-easy. Give the bot a main Earth mode, and a nice bot design. Then make the extra form a "Cybertronian hey-give-us-a-break-we're-playing-it-by-ear" mode.
It could work. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

If it's Cybertronian, one thing less to license

carytheone wrote:

Hip-Hoptimus Rime wrote:That scene in the Bee trailer when Shatter and Dropkick fly in, transform into cars for a moment, then again into bots is cringe-inducing. Takes me right out of the movie.

Really? I thought it was pretty awesome, if not a little superfluous. Now if they used it as a reason to sell triple changer toys that'd be a different story.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote: Even if you don't have to worry about keeping the other mode Earthly in appearance, you still have to worry about stashing its parts away. Say the other mode is a helicopter - where do you hide the engine, the main rotor, the tail, and the tail rotor?

carytheone wrote:

TulioDude wrote:Does anyone think we will have toys from the scenes on Cybertron of The Bumblebee movie?
Some of these redesigns are so sick that would be shame if dont get a toy or two from them.

I'd love to see those designs in plastic form, but probably not because we can't have nice things

To be fair though, the new Siege line is pretty much just that

And now we know what Siege is scaled to

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I'd have no problem with a triple changing deluxe movie bot. The solution is piss-easy. Give the bot a main Earth mode, and a nice bot design. Then make the extra form a "Cybertronian hey-give-us-a-break-we're-playing-it-by-ear" mode.
It could work. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

If it's Cybertronian, one thing less to license

TulioDude wrote:
I always assumed this was Drift was going for.The reason nobody could guess what kind of helicopter he was,is because he was made up one.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

TulioDude wrote:
I always assumed this was Drift was going for.The reason nobody could guess what kind of helicopter he was,is because he was made up one.

That's why I wonder why they never botheted to make an actual triple changing Drift in toy form. They could have designed the cyber compter with the toy in mind.

reluctantyouth wrote:Nice to see these are hitting. My local brick and mortars are overstocked with old stuff. No room for Siege. Hasbro sucks...distribution sucks...it's an all out suck fest as usual. I did find Siege legions on an end cap, but they were put there out of necessity and bunched with other non Transformer garbage. I'm not interested in the legions this go round. I just want that Voyager prime.

Ironhidensh wrote:So much for scale accuracy attempts.

william-james88 wrote:There is an absolutely gorgeous display of Studio Series figures at Tokyo Comic-Con 2018 right now.

reluctantyouth wrote:Nice to see these are hitting. My local brick and mortars are overstocked with old stuff. No room for Siege. Hasbro sucks...distribution sucks...it's an all out suck fest as usual. I did find Siege legions on an end cap, but they were put there out of necessity and bunched with other non Transformer garbage. I'm not interested in the legions this go round. I just want that Voyager prime.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:So much for scale accuracy attempts.

Did you buy them at same time or do you just always carry Blackout about with you? And what should the scale be here? Should there be a bigger difference size-wise?

Randomhero wrote:

reluctantyouth wrote:Nice to see these are hitting. My local brick and mortars are overstocked with old stuff. No room for Siege. Hasbro sucks...distribution sucks...it's an all out suck fest as usual. I did find Siege legions on an end cap, but they were put there out of necessity and bunched with other non Transformer garbage. I'm not interested in the legions this go round. I just want that Voyager prime.

Oh my god how many times do I have to explain retails to people?! Stores order their own stuff! Wave one is directly forced into stores and after that the stores order future waves themselves. It’s not hasbro a fault if retailers are sitting on a ton of old stuff it’s the store itself. Hasbros drive like everyone else is to make money. It’s not their fault if your store is sitting on old waves because they don’t control that.

william-james88 wrote:

reluctantyouth wrote:Nice to see these are hitting. My local brick and mortars are overstocked with old stuff. No room for Siege. Hasbro sucks...distribution sucks...it's an all out suck fest as usual. I did find Siege legions on an end cap, but they were put there out of necessity and bunched with other non Transformer garbage. I'm not interested in the legions this go round. I just want that Voyager prime.

why not just wait for toys to show up on amazon. With these studio series toys, for isntance, Amazon got them before brick and mortar. Retail is changing, so why not change with it?

Ironhidensh wrote:So much for scale accuracy attempts.

reluctantyouth wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

reluctantyouth wrote:Nice to see these are hitting. My local brick and mortars are overstocked with old stuff. No room for Siege. Hasbro sucks...distribution sucks...it's an all out suck fest as usual. I did find Siege legions on an end cap, but they were put there out of necessity and bunched with other non Transformer garbage. I'm not interested in the legions this go round. I just want that Voyager prime.

why not just wait for toys to show up on amazon. With these studio series toys, for isntance, Amazon got them before brick and mortar. Retail is changing, so why not change with it?

I agree with you and have done just that, but the hunt is part of the fun. Take the hunt away and collecting loses some magic.

carytheone wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:So much for scale accuracy attempts.

Ha "Whirl" looks tiny there

ScottyP wrote:

Randomhero wrote:

reluctantyouth wrote:Nice to see these are hitting. My local brick and mortars are overstocked with old stuff. No room for Siege. Hasbro sucks...distribution sucks...it's an all out suck fest as usual. I did find Siege legions on an end cap, but they were put there out of necessity and bunched with other non Transformer garbage. I'm not interested in the legions this go round. I just want that Voyager prime.

Oh my god how many times do I have to explain retails to people?! Stores order their own stuff! Wave one is directly forced into stores and after that the stores order future waves themselves. It’s not hasbro a fault if retailers are sitting on a ton of old stuff it’s the store itself. Hasbros drive like everyone else is to make money. It’s not their fault if your store is sitting on old waves because they don’t control that.

Yeah I go an extra five miles or so to the store I saw Dropkick/KSI Sentry at because they actually tend to move product, therefore they're more likely to have newer stuff. Thinking of other recent stuff, this same Target is one of only a few where I ever saw the last wave of RiD Crash Combiners.

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Jetpower Optimus looks good. Hell of a big gun. :O

Carnivius_Prime wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:So much for scale accuracy attempts.

Did you buy them at same time or do you just always carry Blackout about with you? And what should the scale be here? Should there be a bigger difference size-wise?

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

Carnivius_Prime wrote:Jetpower Optimus looks good. Hell of a big gun. :O

What big gun? Last photos I saw only showed him having a big axe and he was still lacking the big gun from the movie. Did I miss something?

Randomhero wrote:

reluctantyouth wrote:Nice to see these are hitting. My local brick and mortars are overstocked with old stuff. No room for Siege. Hasbro sucks...distribution sucks...it's an all out suck fest as usual. I did find Siege legions on an end cap, but they were put there out of necessity and bunched with other non Transformer garbage. I'm not interested in the legions this go round. I just want that Voyager prime.

Oh my god how many times do I have to explain retails to people?! Stores order their own stuff! Wave one is directly forced into stores and after that the stores order future waves themselves. It’s not hasbro a fault if retailers are sitting on a ton of old stuff it’s the store itself. Hasbros drive like everyone else is to make money. It’s not their fault if your store is sitting on old waves because they don’t control that.

Nemesis Maximo wrote:Well, those Constructicons look...stupid.

So is Studio Series just going to be the Catch-all for all movie toys now? I’m fine with that, but boy howdy did the quality take a bit of a dive there.

Maybe it’s just my expectations being too high; after years of dreaming for an actually decent Bonecrusher figure, it probably would never have held up anyway.