Transformers: Robots In Disguise - Season 2 Optimus Prime Teaser

Return of Polar Claw maybe

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Judging by the image above, can you please tell me which animal is this new Con is based on? Of course it can't be Groundpounder, since we do already know what he looks like which will be used to make a Legion Groundpounder toy in the near future. Please tell me, what animal is it, and what kind of vehicle does it transform into?

psj333 wrote:https://www.facebook.com/LogicalFTW/photos/a.324784230975682.75794.266949023425870/864028350384598/?type=3

Judging by the image above, can you please tell me which animal is this new Con is based on? Of course it can't be Groundpounder, since we do already know what he looks like which will be used to make a Legion Groundpounder toy in the near future. Please tell me, what animal is it, and what kind of vehicle does it transform into?

Two things:

One, if you can't tell what kind of animal that 'Con is themed on, you need to look in a children's animal book. Here's a hint, we are all distant relatives of it.

Two, it is Groundpounder....'s mold. It'll transform into a variation of his vehicle mode. So it is just a remold of Grounpounder's design, something that should be obvious, much like the polar bear con, who resembles Steeljaw's mold with a new head, halftracks, plow, and a variation on his chest design.

Madeus_Prime wrote:Two things:

One, if you can't tell what kind of animal that 'Con is themed on, you need to look in a children's animal book. Here's a hint, we are all distant relatives of it.

Two, it is Groundpounder....'s mold. It'll transform into a variation of his vehicle mode. So it is just a remold of Grounpounder's design, something that should be obvious, much like the polar bear con, who resembles Steeljaw's mold with a new head, halftracks, plow, and a variation on his chest design.

No, that's not Groundpounder. Just because a character is based on that design, that does not mean that it's him. As you can tell, Groundpounder is a gorilla who turns into an excavator, whereas this unknown Con transforms into some type of a large treaded heavy-duty truck. And by the looks of it, that doesn't appear to be a gorilla at all. It's either an ape of an unknown type or a brown bear. You decide. Also, you've stated that the polar bear rumoured to be Polar Claw, shares the same body type as Steeljaw's, which suggests that he also has a vehicle mode as opposed to his Beast Wars counterpart, pretty much like Crazybolt. But after I saw the recent trailer for Season 2, his body didn't appeared to resemble that of Steeljaw's except for his colors.

Finally, if Hasbro stated that if the Decepticons for this series are animals that can turn into vehicles, then why are some animals in this series can turn into humans? For example, why Kickback is the only Insecticon to have a vehicle form which is an F1 racer-type dragster, and the rest of them have human forms? I'm not saying that I'm not a fan of characters who are animals that can change into humans. I'm just not a fan of their designs, that's all, for I'm interested in animals that can turn into vehicles, as I myself a huge fan of animals and cars.

psj333 wrote:https://www.facebook.com/LogicalFTW/photos/a.324784230975682.75794.266949023425870/864028350384598/?type=3

Judging by the image above, can you please tell me which animal is this new Con is based on? Of course it can't be Groundpounder, since we do already know what he looks like which will be used to make a Legion Groundpounder toy in the near future. Please tell me, what animal is it, and what kind of vehicle does it transform into?

He looks like Groundpounder, just with different colors and a new head, so he's the same vehicle as him. And the head looks like a mandrill or baboon.

Madeus Prime wrote:Two things:

One, if you can't tell what kind of animal that 'Con is themed on, you need to look in a children's animal book. Here's a hint, we are all distant relatives of it.

Two, it is Groundpounder....'s mold. It'll transform into a variation of his vehicle mode. So it is just a remold of Grounpounder's design, something that should be obvious, much like the polar bear con, who resembles Steeljaw's mold with a new head, halftracks, plow, and a variation on his chest design.

So, the half track we sam in the first season 02 trailer is that polar bear?! Would make sense and yes, he could be a remold of Steeljaw.

psj333 wrote:No, that's not Groundpounder. Just because a character is based on that design, that does not mean that it's him. As you can tell, Groundpounder is a gorilla who turns into an excavator, whereas this unknown Con transforms into some type of a large treaded heavy-duty truck. And by the looks of it, that doesn't appear to be a gorilla at all. It's either an ape of an unknown type or a brown bear. You decide. Also, you've stated that the polar bear rumoured to be Polar Claw, shares the same body type as Steeljaw's, which suggests that he also has a vehicle mode as opposed to his Beast Wars counterpart, pretty much like Crazybolt. But after I saw the recent trailer for Season 2, his body didn't appeared to resemble that of Steeljaw's except for his colors.

Did you really carefully read what Madeus Prime wrote?
Or do you just not understand it?

*Watches Optimus randomly drive through side of bridge*
Isn't he supposed to be preventing needless destruction?

Whifflefire wrote:*Watches Optimus randomly drive through side of bridge*
Isn't he supposed to be preventing needless destruction?

I think that part is mirrored from his dramatic entrance to fight Megatronus in the Season 1 finale

Lunatic Prime wrote:

psj333 wrote:https://www.facebook.com/LogicalFTW/photos/a.324784230975682.75794.266949023425870/864028350384598/?type=3

Judging by the image above, can you please tell me which animal is this new Con is based on? Of course it can't be Groundpounder, since we do already know what he looks like which will be used to make a Legion Groundpounder toy in the near future. Please tell me, what animal is it, and what kind of vehicle does it transform into?

He looks like Groundpounder, just with different colors and a new head, so he's the same vehicle as him. And the head looks like a mandrill or baboon.

Madeus Prime wrote:Two things:

One, if you can't tell what kind of animal that 'Con is themed on, you need to look in a children's animal book. Here's a hint, we are all distant relatives of it.

Two, it is Groundpounder....'s mold. It'll transform into a variation of his vehicle mode. So it is just a remold of Grounpounder's design, something that should be obvious, much like the polar bear con, who resembles Steeljaw's mold with a new head, halftracks, plow, and a variation on his chest design.

So, the half track we sam in the first season 02 trailer is that polar bear?! Would make sense and yes, he could be a remold of Steeljaw.

psj333 wrote:No, that's not Groundpounder. Just because a character is based on that design, that does not mean that it's him. As you can tell, Groundpounder is a gorilla who turns into an excavator, whereas this unknown Con transforms into some type of a large treaded heavy-duty truck. And by the looks of it, that doesn't appear to be a gorilla at all. It's either an ape of an unknown type or a brown bear. You decide. Also, you've stated that the polar bear rumoured to be Polar Claw, shares the same body type as Steeljaw's, which suggests that he also has a vehicle mode as opposed to his Beast Wars counterpart, pretty much like Crazybolt. But after I saw the recent trailer for Season 2, his body didn't appeared to resemble that of Steeljaw's except for his colors.

Did you really carefully read what Madeus Prime wrote?
Or do you just not understand it?

If it helps anything, I'm pretty sure this new guy is an orangutan. It's the distinctive saggy cheeks that gave it away for me, along with the overall proportions (as far as we can see).

Autobot Roadburn wrote:If it helps anything, I'm pretty sure this new guy is an orangutan. It's the distinctive saggy cheeks that gave it away for me, along with the overall proportions (as far as we can see).

Well, thank you. I really do appreciated. But we'll see what kind of animal that he really is, once the show airs this weekend.

psj333 wrote:No, that's not Groundpounder. Just because a character is based on that design, that does not mean that it's him. As you can tell, Groundpounder is a gorilla who turns into an excavator, whereas this unknown Con transforms into some type of a large treaded heavy-duty truck.

Did I-? I did! I said it was his mold and design!! I never ONCE said it was Groundpounder, all I said was "Two, it is Groundpounder....'s mold" And have you been paying attention to Transformers these days? An extensive repaint and remold is more likely than a new design.

psj333 wrote:But after I saw the recent trailer for Season 2, his body didn't appeared to resemble that of Steeljaw's except for his colors.

All you can see is his head and chest! And it does actually resemble Steeljaw, you just need to look past the additional bit on his chest and the head.

psj333 wrote:Finally, if Hasbro stated that if the Decepticons for this series are animals that can turn into vehicles, then why are some animals in this series can turn into humans? For example, why Kickback is the only Insecticon to have a vehicle form which is an F1 racer-type dragster, and the rest of them have human forms? I'm not saying that I'm not a fan of characters who are animals that can change into humans. I'm just not a fan of their designs, that's all, for I'm interested in animals that can turn into vehicles, as I myself a huge fan of animals and cars

Doesn't matter, Hasbro doesn't give a damn about inconsistencies. Also, technically in this universe, the Insecticons are a very specific form of Cybertronian, specifically the ones from Prime. And just possibly this version of Kickback isn't an Insecticon, omitting the forgotten connection to the WFC/FOC Universe.

psj333 wrote:Well, thank you. I really do appreciated. But we'll see what kind of animal that he really is, once the show airs this weekend.

He is an ape, an orangutan or a gorilla, there is no question of what animal he really is, you just need to study some basic taxonomy to figure out what you constantly ask us.

Oh and another thing, psj, we won't know ANYTHING about ANYTHING until the episodes with said characters you have oh so many questions about comes out. So, Overloaded part 1 and 2 won't answer anything for you, as all it'll do is somehow weaken Prime and introduce Overload with his Cyclones.

Madeus_Prime wrote:All you can see is his head and chest! And it does actually resemble Steeljaw, you just need to look past the additional bit on his chest and the head.

Sure, I can exactly where you're from, now. The reason why they looked similar but not exactly alike, is because they are carnivores, animals related to dogs and cats. That is why both Polar Claw and Steeljaw are similar in build. So far Steeljaw turns into a futuristic SUV, but whether Polar Claw will be the same as Steeljaw remains to be seen. And when Optimus whacks Polar with his own pole, as Polar Claw is sent flying through the air, there seems to be another Con besides him, whom I'm curious to know what kind of animal he really is, since it's hard to tell from the trailer. And I'm not talking about Razorpaw. And since Quillfire is a porcupine, which is indeed a rodent, I suppose that any rodent Cybertronian would share a similar bodytype of Quillfire. I would love you to explain that to me.

Madeus_Prime wrote:Doesn't matter, Hasbro doesn't give a damn about inconsistencies. Also, technically in this universe, the Insecticons are a very specific form of Cybertronian, specifically the ones from Prime. And just possibly this version of Kickback isn't an Insecticon, omitting the forgotten connection to the WFC/FOC Universe.

I am not doing this for characters, but only for the toys. First off, Prime is not the first series to introduce Insecticons. In fact, Insecticons, go way back to G1. Hasbro officially confirmed that Kickback for RID is indeed a Insecticon. He was a grasshopper back then on Cybertron, but became a F1 dragster on Earth. He did this, because he felt it allows him to run from his enemies a lot quicker. Perhaps, this might explain why Kickback is the only Insecticon to have a vehicles while others don't. A new female Con, whose name is yet to be determined is rumoured to be a mosquito. But according to her design, her body and looks strikingly resembles that from Elita-1 from Animated and that below her trunks are two circles that are believed to be wheels. Does this mean she has a vehicle mode of sorts?

psj333 wrote:

Madeus_Prime wrote:All you can see is his head and chest! And it does actually resemble Steeljaw, you just need to look past the additional bit on his chest and the head.

Sure, I can exactly where you're from, now. The reason why they looked similar but not exactly alike, is because they are carnivores, animals related to dogs and cats. That is why both Polar Claw and Steeljaw are similar in build. So far Steeljaw turns into a futuristic SUV, but whether Polar Claw will be the same as Steeljaw remains to be seen. And when Optimus whacks Polar with his own pole, as Polar Claw is sent flying through the air, there seems to be another Con besides him, whom I'm curious to know what kind of animal he really is, since it's hard to tell from the trailer. And I'm not talking about Razorpaw. And since Quillfire is a porcupine, which is indeed a rodent, I suppose that any rodent Cybertronian would share a similar bodytype of Quillfire. I would love you to explain that to me.

Your arguements do absolutely make no sense. You're just talking b u l l s h i t!!!

And Quillfire is clearly a lizard. Maybe a Bearded Dragon or something like that.


From now on, I'm going to ignore your posts and comments.

Lunatic Prime wrote:From now on, I'm going to ignore your posts and comments.[/color][/b]

Thank you. This is appreciated more than you know. I did that months ago. But when ppl keep quoting him, I still have to see his posts, which kind of defeats the purpose.

Lunatic_Prime wrote:And Quillfire is clearly a lizard. Maybe a Bearded Dragon or something like that.

According to Hasbro sources, Quillfire is a porcupine and not a lizard, which is why he earned his name. First of all, lizards don't have quills, only porcupines and some birds do.

Lunatic_Prime wrote:From now on, I'm going to ignore your posts and comments.

If you really do hate me for anything, that's your business, and not mine! And to the people who are criticizing me, I do believe that it is now time to be proud of who you are. Because when this is all over, haters are only going to do whatever it takes to get something that you want. But until then, instead of hating me for what I have, what I say, what I believe in, and for what I do, just go out and get it. Remember, you can hate me all you want, but you can't hate me simply just by asking for or standing up for something.

o.supreme wrote:

Lunatic Prime wrote:From now on, I'm going to ignore your posts and comments.[/color][/b]

Thank you. This is appreciated more than you know. I did that months ago. But when ppl keep quoting him, I still have to see his posts, which kind of defeats the purpose.

I'm just wondering what kind of logic he has.

psj333 wrote:

Lunatic_Prime wrote:And Quillfire is clearly a lizard. Maybe a Bearded Dragon or something like that.

According to Hasbro sources, Quillfire is a porcupine and not a lizard, which is why he earned his name. First of all, lizards don't have quills, only porcupines and some birds do.

For example, has Age of Extinction Slog declared to be an Apotosaur although he clearly looks like a brachiosaurus.

psj333 wrote:

Lunatic_Prime wrote:From now on, I'm going to ignore your posts and comments.

If you really do hate me for anything, that's your business, and not mine! And to the people who are criticizing me, I do believe that it is now time to be proud of who you are. Because when this is all over, haters are only going to do whatever it takes to get something that you want. But until then, instead of hating me for what I have, what I say, what I believe in, and for what I do, just go out and get it. Remember, you can hate me all you want, but you can't hate me simply just by asking for or standing up for something.

I don't hate you, I just can't endure that nonsense you are writing anymore. It just makes no sense. For example to say would give all bots with rodent alt modes the same mold. In Beast Wars that might make sense. But not here!

I just wanted to finally clarify that I do NOT hate you. Last answer.

Lunatic_Prime wrote:I don't hate you, I just can't endure that nonsense you are writing anymore. It just makes no sense. For example to say would give all bots with rodent alt modes the same mold. In Beast Wars that might make sense. But not here!

I just wanted to finally clarify that I do NOT hate you. Last answer.

Good, that's fine! But here is my message to all of my supporters out there:

Don't give a crap of what anyone else thinks, but stay true to yourself and be who you are, and that's what impresses people!

Episode 27 (season 2 episode 1), "Overloaded, Part 1" aired this morning on Cartoon Network.

Since KissCartoon still doesn't have the episode up, see if this Dailymotion link works - http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3tc9a2

psj333 wrote: The reason why they looked similar but not exactly alike, is because they are carnivores, animals related to dogs and cats.

No, it's because they appear to share cartoon animation models with a good heaping of recoloring and remolding. Such as Groundpounder and the unknown ape 'Con. They look similar because of their ANIMATION MODEL, not because they are both carnivores. BTW, just so you know, bears are actually omnivores.

psj333 wrote: So far Steeljaw turns into a futuristic SUV, but whether Polar Claw will be the same as Steeljaw remains to be seen.

We've seen it! It's the snowcat that Windblade is fighting, and my reasoning for this, which is founded on logic and not assumptions, is that we see the unknown polar bear 'Con fighting Optimus under glacial ice flows, which matches the terrain we see the snow cat in. Now, that snow cat, aside from the halftracks and the plow, seems to resemble Steeljaw's alternate mode. Now, I offer this question to the masses: Is my reasoning for making that assumption sound? I'd think it is.

psj333 wrote:I would love you to explain that to me.

Sure, let me get out my doctorate on advanced Cybertronian biology and zoology...

psj333 wrote: First off, Prime is not the first series to introduce Insecticons. In fact, Insecticons, go way back to G1.

Whaaat? I didn't know that?!

psj333 wrote:He was a grasshopper back then on Cybertron, but became a F1 dragster on Earth. He did this, because he felt it allows him to run from his enemies a lot quicker. Perhaps, this might explain why Kickback is the only Insecticon to have a vehicles while others don't.

Or maybe it's because Hasbro and the cartoon writers don't care about plot consistencies. And where did you get the info that he adopted that vehicle mode for that purpose? It's never stated in the show or officially, he just appears to be a snitch and a coward, has zero difference with what he turns into. Also, if you ever played the FOC game, you'd know that the Kickback in FOC is NOWHERE near the same as the RID incarnation. Different characters, by all intents and purposes.

psj333 wrote:Does this mean she has a vehicle mode of sorts

Hrm, guess what? WE DO NOT KNOW.

psj333 wrote:Good, that's fine! But here is my message to all of my supporters out there:Don't give a crap of what anyone else thinks, but stay true to yourself and be who you are, and that's what impresses people!

Psj333, I'm going to be no longer helping you from now on, as you seem to think your opinion reflects that of any and all fans of whatever current cartoon is on the air. Also, your attitude towards people who disagree with you seems to reflect that of which I was taught in health class (a bunch of hippie drama and feel-good nonsense). You are a grandstander when you feel attacked, but you can't see that your commentary and constant barrage of questions makes you a target for attack. Just take this piece of advice, which you won't, don't ask questions when the answers don't exist yet, this is a board for facts and discussion, not theorizing and lecturing about Shifters, character continuity, or alternate modes.

So, goodbye

o.supreme wrote:Thank you. This is appreciated more than you know. I did that months ago. But when ppl keep quoting him, I still have to see his posts, which kind of defeats the purpose.

I'm mostly responsible for that , you have my apologies, I'm going to block him as well, it's just not worth arguing with somebody who asks questions and never takes anything away from the answers.

Sabrblade wrote:Episode 27 (season 2 episode 1), "Overloaded, Part 1" aired this morning on Cartoon Network.

Since KissCartoon still doesn't have the episode up, see if this Dailymotion link works - http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3tc9a2

Thanks! Decent enough ep, felt a bit rushed/"just because" in places, but my opinion of it's going to mostly be defined by the quality of the stories it's setting up.

The blue mini-con's "attack mode" is totally giving me an Armada Dead End (Unicron's mini-con) vibe;

...come to think of it, the Cyclones are described as "chaotic", and aren't normally associated with 'bots or 'cons... /tinfoilhat

Madeus_Prime wrote:Psj333, I'm going to be no longer helping you from now on, as you seem to think your opinion reflects that of any and all fans of whatever current cartoon is on the air. Also, your attitude towards people who disagree with you seems to reflect that of which I was taught in health class (a bunch of hippie drama and feel-good nonsense). You are a grandstander when you feel attacked, but you can't see that your commentary and constant barrage of questions makes you a target for attack. Just take this piece of advice, which you won't, don't ask questions when the answers don't exist yet, this is a board for facts and discussion, not theorizing and lecturing about Shifters, character continuity, or alternate modes.

Look, correct me if I'm wrong, but I wasn't actually referring to you, just to clear that up. I was only referring to those who supported my views. You have to understand this, if our views don't respect yours, what you're going to do, block us for good? Is it? No, you cannot do that! You have to accept that. You have to realize that in this world, nobody and nothing rules.

Madeus_Prime wrote:I'm mostly responsible for that , you have my apologies, I'm going to block him as well, it's just not worth arguing with somebody who asks questions and never takes anything away from the answers.

You can block me if you want, but you cannot block me simply just by asking or standing up for something.

Well, after watching Overloaded P1, I can say Overload is a nice refreshing light villain with a good egomaniacal streak. I like his attitude towards Prime and his constant usage of acting terms.

Forget everything I said about the polar bear 'Con being a redesign of Steeljaw, different animation model. But you can see why I had assumed it was the same, in my defense.

Madeus Prime wrote:Well, after watching Overloaded P1, I can say Overload is a nice refreshing light villain with a good egomaniacal streak. I like his attitude towards Prime and his constant usage of acting terms.

I appreciate how they gave him a characterization that isn't suggested by his bodytype - the majority of tank TFs tend to be dim bruisers (Brawl, Warpath) or warlords (Bludgeon, Turmoil, some Megatrons). This obnoxious, egotistical actor's an entertaining twist.

Judging from the comments about his face perhaps being a weakpoint, I imagine we'll see an appearance of the face-mask his illusion-doppelganger had. Considering Overload was a figure from Optimus's past who hurt those OP felt obligated to protect, it would make sense the Primes used an illusory double of him in one of Optimus's tests.

RevTibe wrote:I appreciate how they gave him a characterization that isn't suggested by his bodytype - the majority of tank TFs tend to be dim bruisers (Brawl, Warpath) or warlords (Bludgeon, Turmoil, some Megatrons). This obnoxious, egotistical actor's an entertaining twist.

Exactly, it calls back a little bit to Beast Wars Megatron, who was such a delight to watch.

Episode 27 -

Lots of strong elements within a rather so-so story.

Optimus being depicted as an old wounded warrior who insists he can keep going in spite of everyone's concerned protestations is an interesting take on the character. We've seen Optimus be persistent before, but the sheer level of stubbornness he displayed in this one had him act less like the mighty, heroic, and fatherly figure he's usually seen as, and instead more like an old codger who wants to prove himself to those darn whippersnappers who think they know better. It's almost like he was being written more like Kup or Animated Ratchet rather than Optimus. But, as a result, this showed us a side of Optimus we really haven't seen very much of before. For once, Optimus is part of a team of bots who are far more separated from his generation than normal. Here, he has no peers, no "old friends" besides the already much younger Bumblebee. Everyone around him is a junior of his juniors, making him stand out less like a parental figure and more like a grandparental figure. This Optimus is old and aged, and he knows it, but still wants to prove his mettle in spite of that. It's almost like Optimus is showing an insecurity towards his age and condition, as though he's trying to not just convince the others of his usefulness and capabilities, but himself as well. While Sideswipe will undoubtedly learn a lesson about respecting his elders in his disrespect towards Optimus, it's sure seems like Optimus himself will be the one to also learn a lesson of his own, one about his not needing to push himself so much to be useful or appreciated.

Speaking of Sideswipe, I kinda liked this angle of him showing little respect towards Optimus. His calling Optimus "Pops" leading to Optimus berating him for doing so was a little surprising given how most Autobots in Aligned media generally treat the guy named "Optimus Prime" with the utmost respect and reverence. To see Sideswipe be so unimpressed by Optimus, especially given the big spectacle Optimus's appearance in the season 1 finale was, is not something I ever saw coming. The two of them also beginning things on not-so-good terms also opens up numerous possibilities for relationship growth and dynamics for the two in the rest of the season, as it's rare for there to be a series where Optimus doesn't really like one of his teammates that much. That berating he gave to Sideswipe also makes me wish he had done so to Ratchet back in the Prime cartoon whenever Ratchet would either speak out of line towards Optimus or question Optimus's actions like when the Omega Lock was destroyed. Whenever these happened, Optimus would either just stand there in silence looking disappointed at Ratchet or try giving some pontificated speech to make his case. Here, however, Prime basically just snapped at Sideswipe and put him right in his place. Firmly.

As for the rest of the episode, where do I even begin to discuss how fun a character Overload is? The guy basically has the body build of a brawling macho man... and he's instead of theatrical thespian! Ha! SO did not see that one coming. Dave Fennoy made this character such a hoot in his small amount of airtime that I eagerly anticipate seeing more of him both next episode and hopefully throughout more of the season. Though, his connection to Bumblebee is kind of uninteresting. He injured Bee back in the War for Cybertron and now Bee wants payback. Like, so much that Bee has completely fixated his whole world on taking Overload down. I get that the guy hurt Bee in the past, but Megatron took away Bee's voice! How much worse could Overload have done that the mere sight of him would be enough switch Bee into Revenge Mode, when such was never the case for whenever Bee saw Megatron (the guy who stole Bee's voice). The vengeance subplot doesn't really strike me as being all that interesting, to be honest. But thankfully the Decepticon it pertains to is entertaining enough on his own. I wonder if Optimus might recall the illusionary Decepticon he fought in the Realm of the Primes when he sees Overload and if he'll point any visual resemblance the two have,

Meanwhile, seeing as how the Cyclones were captured prior to this episode, I guess that means the six shorts from Hasbro's website really were meant to be their own thing and not chopped-up pieces of a larger episode. Consider them "Season 1.5" or something. Oh, and has it been mentioned that the two Cyclones are voiced by none other than STEVE BLUM!!! That's right, Steve Blum is in this show now! And he also provided the "voice" for Polar Claw. One can only hope that The Man with the Sexy Voice will get to take on larger voice roles later in this season.

Overall, while the story felt rather pedestrian with just being some setup for things to come later, the little bits it had here and there were definitely interesting in their own right.

I agree about Overload. He may be a very interesting character that I shall enjoy watching!

The episode was pretty good. I wish we would have seen a bit more of the white Con in the Polar region (I'm sure next week we will). -Away team will get their "Blizzard" gear no doubt.

But I do have to address something. -Like I've said many times, I'm not too proud to admit when I am wrong. I thought for sure those mini 5 segments would be part of an episode. and I was wrong. However, I will state this was a very poor decision by Hasbro & CN. Unless a *possible* future 2nd season DVD (or perhaps the season 1 DVD set will have these as extras...who knows). I assume most kids who watch this on CN would know nothing of the short chapters. When Fixit blurts out "Hey- Be careful! It was a lot of trouble to capture those Cyclone Mini-cons" referring to Strongarm & Sideswipes wrestling resulting in the capture pod nearly breaking...Most kids would have no idea what they were referring to.

That being said. It was a pretty good overall episode. Not really a fan of Overloads flamboyant personality. But he is supposed to be an 'actor", so I guess it was well done for what it was supposed to be. I wish there would have been a little more substance to his bonding with the Cyclones other than mutual love of destruction, but still... Introductory episodes have to deal with a lot of issues. New characters, where the new season is going etc... I'm sure there will be several season 2 episodes that give us some nice action sequences, and new characters with more appealing personalities (both autobot & decepticon).

Season 2 is finally up on KissCartoon with episode 1 ready. Sure took'em long enough.

Is it me, or does Sideswipe feel like a Step backwards? Seems like the end of S1 was starting to develop a more responsible side to Sideswipe. Not that he wasn't still a jokester, but he was a more willing part of the team than where he started out. His out-right brawl with Strongarm felt more like part of he first 1/3 of Season 1 than the end. Similarly, his being on Windblade's las nerve also seemed out of place given her previous appreciation of SIdeswipe's personal style. One could make the argument that she only ever met him in short passing and under the pressure of conflict, where this is a more relaxed moment and he's let the responsible facade slip, but wihout seeing anyhing else, his comes off as being more judgementasl of Sideswipe than Strongarm was, and that doesn't jive for me.

I never go he impression that Sideswipe was trying to be disrespectful, either. Pops was only ever meant as a nickname of endearment, which is totally Sideswipe, but I do like how Prime would take offence at it, and Bee trying to get ahead of the situation was fun.

The running gag needs to die. Now. Painfully.

Fun thought. Micronus said "Only Time knows." And I suspect that is nothing more than a saying, but wouldn't it be awesome if that was a foo in the door for Vector Prime?

Like the others, I too am enjoying Overload. Never thought I would wan a Snagglepuss Decepticon, ("Exit,stage left") and I may find it overdone soon, but for now, enjoyable. Tank/spy makes me think of Animated Longarm in a way. I wonder if they'll reuse the tank from the Quillfire/Springload episode to save on rendering, or if he gets his own?

Madeus Prime wrote:
Forget everything I said about the polar bear 'Con being a redesign of Steeljaw, different animation model. But you can see why I had assumed it was the same, in my defense.

Funny you say that, I thought it was a reuse of the animation model from the bot Windblade took down in her first ep.

I took it as Sideswipe is trying to adapt to new people around him. With Windblade being around all the time now and he clearly really likes her, not to mention to him Prime must be very old, He is in a new situation that he never really has been in. His old team chemistry is a bit stirred up since the new guy and gal arrived, so he is adjusting to it a big differently.

At least, that's how I sort of felt about it

Fellow Seibertronians, Zap2it has listed the episode titles for Transformers: Robots In Disguise episodes 3-7. Interestingly, it seems that the show will air new episodes on both Saturday's and Sunday's after the third episode airs.

March 5: Meltdown

March 19: Suspended

March 20: Cover Me

March 26: Brainpower

March 27: Misdirection

So what do you make of these titles? Are you excited for back-to-back new episodes? Let us know in the comments below.

Strange dates for episodes. Back to back days for new episodes? Strange...

Just watched the first episode of season 2


Was disappointed with Overload extremely mostly his personality and voice which were annoying and hardly suits his design I wont say more it's better you guys see the episode yourselves..

Deadput wrote:Just watched the first episode of season 2


Was disappointed with Overload extremely mostly his personality and voice which were annoying and hardly suits his design I wont say more it's better you guys see the episode yourselves..

Watched it. I fully agree. I haver never really enjoyed this type of personality in any show, and to see it attached to overload's design. ..just no. So disappointed.

We saw the Australian Transformers: Robots in Disguise YouTube channel uploading an Optimus Prime-centric season 2 teaser a while back - we now have a second teaser, featuring the new Decepticon additions to the cast, Overload included! Check it out embedded below.

I wish to see some stunticons or any other combiner,and I would love legion class out of that. The actual decepticons are meh

BERSEKAEL wrote:I wish to see some stunticons or any other combiner,and I would love legion class out of that. The actual decepticons are meh

Agreed. While the show it mindless fun, I am certainly not a fan of the "furry" approach to Decepticon design.

The non-Furry Decepticons are of some interest to me though.

Episode 28 is now on Dailymotion. So far, however, there is only an SD version available to watch - http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3upc1d

Overload continues to be a treasure, and the episode makes the Blizzard Strike decos feel well-justified (even if they've got to deviate from the look of the toys to do it). Was hoping Optimus's new, teachable, ability would also soften their weakness to the cold to differentiate it from past recolors, but ah well.

Optimus is showing certain degrees of Kup-itude, but I'm down with that. The "flawless, wise leader" thing is more based on G1-nostalgia than the character's origins, in which he was a bit of a goofball. He had a smug moment! I could get used to smug Optimus.

Helps that they've set up two character arcs that somewhat conflict - a "respeckt yer elders" thing for Sideswipe and a "Know your limitations" thing for OP. The vague possessiveness Sideswipe has towards Windblade is still pretty weird, though.

Mkall wrote:Agreed. While the show it mindless fun, I am certainly not a fan of the "furry" approach to Decepticon design.

The non-Furry Decepticons are of some interest to me though.

Do you like Beast Wars?


If you do and dislike the Decepticon designs of the show being based on animals that makes you a hypocrite.

Deadput wrote:

Mkall wrote:Agreed. While the show it mindless fun, I am certainly not a fan of the "furry" approach to Decepticon design.

The non-Furry Decepticons are of some interest to me though.

Do you like Beast Wars?


If you do and dislike the Decepticon designs of the show being based on animals that makes you a hypocrite.

That's a bit hyperbolic - although I like both Beast Wars and RiD15's animalistic designs, I can totally see how someone might like one and not the other - a wolf tail on a carformer might seem a lot like wheels on a wolfformer, yeah? In my eyes the two examples aren't equivalent, but I can see how it might affect someone else's enjoyment.

just watched episode 2, loved the Blizzard Strike look(does this mean that we can also expect Blizzard Strike Sideswipe & Windblade figures?) also liked the look of Polar Claw's vehicle mode(hope we get that figure soon too!).

a bit miffed we didn't get to see Overload's vehicle mode(even though we know what that looks like from the Deployer figure).

btw those new Minicons....i hope the figures come with pots & pans accessories! lol

oh btw liked how Windblade used her turbines to lessen the force of the avalanche

& i'm still in awe every time Prime transforms into his vehicle mode.

also

youtube have both eps up now

RevTibe wrote:

Deadput wrote:

Mkall wrote:Agreed. While the show it mindless fun, I am certainly not a fan of the "furry" approach to Decepticon design.

The non-Furry Decepticons are of some interest to me though.

Do you like Beast Wars?


If you do and dislike the Decepticon designs of the show being based on animals that makes you a hypocrite.

That's a bit hyperbolic - although I like both Beast Wars and RiD15's animalistic designs, I can totally see how someone might like one and not the other - a wolf tail on a carformer might seem a lot like wheels on a wolfformer, yeah? In my eyes the two examples aren't equivalent, but I can see how it might affect someone else's enjoyment.

Precisely RevTibe.

Beast Wars, robots with animal modes, was the entire theme of the show. The characters personalities were related to their altmodes a little bit, but not overwhelmingly so (except Waspinator, but he's special). Even when the lore did not require them to need animal modes (after all the Energon became stable), they still stuck with the theme. Why? Because there was in-lore reasons.

With RiD, there is no REASON given in-story (to my knowledge) that describes why all criminal Decepticons, from disparate backgrounds from all over Cybertron, that were locked into stasis pods that they be given some sort of animalistic persona/appearance to varying degrees. Sure, it's an obvious Hasbro marketing idea, and to give points to the show's writing most of them are pulled off well with a good personality. However to me it's a suspension of disbelief that I really have trouble accepting. Granted I'm not a 6-10 kid anymore, but I feel that similar characters/stories could have been made with more traditional-style Decepticons.

Overload, decepticon thespian!

Mkall wrote:

RevTibe wrote:

Deadput wrote:

Mkall wrote:Agreed. While the show it mindless fun, I am certainly not a fan of the "furry" approach to Decepticon design.

The non-Furry Decepticons are of some interest to me though.

Do you like Beast Wars?


If you do and dislike the Decepticon designs of the show being based on animals that makes you a hypocrite.

That's a bit hyperbolic - although I like both Beast Wars and RiD15's animalistic designs, I can totally see how someone might like one and not the other - a wolf tail on a carformer might seem a lot like wheels on a wolfformer, yeah? In my eyes the two examples aren't equivalent, but I can see how it might affect someone else's enjoyment.

Precisely RevTibe.

Beast Wars, robots with animal modes, was the entire theme of the show. The characters personalities were related to their altmodes a little bit, but not overwhelmingly so (except Waspinator, but he's special). Even when the lore did not require them to need animal modes (after all the Energon became stable), they still stuck with the theme. Why? Because there was in-lore reasons.

With RiD, there is no REASON given in-story (to my knowledge) that describes why all criminal Decepticons, from disparate backgrounds from all over Cybertron, that were locked into stasis pods that they be given some sort of animalistic persona/appearance to varying degrees. Sure, it's an obvious Hasbro marketing idea, and to give points to the show's writing most of them are pulled off well with a good personality. However to me it's a suspension of disbelief that I really have trouble accepting. Granted I'm not a 6-10 kid anymore, but I feel that similar characters/stories could have been made with more traditional-style Decepticons.

Because this stretches suspension of disbelief much further than thirty-foot alien robots that turn into human-scaled guns and cassette players.

Mkall wrote: I feel that similar characters/stories could have been made with more traditional-style Decepticons.

The further we move away from tradition and cliche tropes the better.


I prefer Steeljaw over the last couple Megatron's we have had (Thinking about the Movie and Prime versions of him here Animated Megatron was cool)

Deadput wrote:

Mkall wrote: I feel that similar characters/stories could have been made with more traditional-style Decepticons.

The further we move away from tradition and cliche tropes the better.

So we both want different things. Nothing wrong with that. I'll enjoy what I got even if it's not entirely my cup of tea.

Mkall wrote:So we both want different things. Nothing wrong with that. I'll enjoy what I got even if it's not entirely my cup of tea.

I'm fine with agreeing to disagree.


Although in my eyes personally I would think that a perfect balance between having new thing and keeping some of the old ways would be best.

For example Having characters such as Alpha Bravo and Steeljaw exist while also having some of the old guys such as Prime and Starscream with maybe some new things with them so their not rehashes of before.

D-Maximus_Primal wrote:Strange dates for episodes. Back to back days for new episodes? Strange...

It is good for us who like to see new episodes as quick as possible. however it is typical CN, just trying to burn through the new episodes as quick as possible, no doubt so they can snuff this series from their roster so they can show more endless Uncle Grandpa & Teen Titans Go reruns.

Anywho... The episode was ok. I was actually way more interested in The away mission & Polar Claw than Bumblebee & Overloads battle.

Interesting to see that Steve Blum "voiced" (or more accurately provided all the noise for) Polarclaw, Backtrack & Ransack. Good to see he has quite a Frank Welker-esque ability to him. Also perhaps we might see Starscream before its all over? Who knows....

I was kind of disappointed Polarclaw didn't speak. Also I thought it was kind of weak that the Cyclones would turn on Overload so quickly. I would have maintained that,in order to show their unwillingness to take orders at all, they would not have so quickly joined Overload in the first place (I mean look what happened to Fracture if you happened to see those short episodes). However I have no doubt they will be back with Overload before the end.

For those who are already living outside of North America, the European brand known as Simba-Dickie has recently posted images of the upcoming RID toys made by them. They are radio-controlled cars. One of these toys that really caught my attention is Grimlock's vehicle mode.

Here is the image of what Grimlock's vehicle mode would have looked like in the cartoon:

http://news.tfw2005.com/wp-content/uplo ... imlock.jpg

But what does this mean? Does this mean that Grimlock will finally successfully scan a vehicle mode for Season 2? In Season 1, he has tried many attempts to scan a vehicle mode, but still failed.