Transformers Robots In Disguise (Animated Series) Sideswipe Concept Art

You know, if they'd used that design and kept the name, I'd love the character a LOT more then the resulting product.

I love Sideswipe's pointy spiked anime hair helmet.

Sabrblade wrote:Bee never scanned a new form. He kept the same form he had on Cybertron since it already was an Earth vehicle (a "Griffin Motors 1995 Windblazer", to be precise).

Right.
Thanks Hank.

Cobotron wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Bee never scanned a new form. He kept the same form he had on Cybertron since it already was an Earth vehicle (a "Griffin Motors 1995 Windblazer", to be precise).

Right.
Thanks Hank.

For those unaware, "Hank" isn't in reference to me, but a character from episode 4.

All caught up... started off fun, but I'm bored now. I feel like the character dynamic is wearing thin, falling flat, and otherwise 2-dimensional... granted it took Beast Wars this long to get traction, so now that the Decepticons have been established, I'm hoping there will be more interesting interactions and depth put into these characters. They're cute, but it's like har har okay so what else is there to you? I feel like the Autobots can be kind of douchey, and then some of the Decepticons (Springload, Ped, and Clampdown) are endearing like a bunch of Waspinators... that to me actually makes the show frustrating because I end up rooting for just the Decepticons instead of both of them. I'd rank this show pretty low...

1.) Beast Wars/Machines
2.) The TransFormers: The Movie 1986
3.) Robots in Disguise 2001
4.) Animated/Prime
5.) TFs 2007 movie
6.) RotF
7.) DotM/AoE/RID 2015
8.) The Unicron Trilogy
9.) G1

I'm hoping this starts to pick up, and it would be interesting to see Optimus and Megatron return... I'd also like to see Airachnid get off that moon and become a major character instead of a "guest star" like she was in Prime

The Sideswipe concept looks neat but I'm fine with the final result because not only does this fit Sideswipe more but it also gives him a chance to flesh his character out more then he did in the past series he was in.

Amelie wrote:Ah, Transtech - we meet again.

That aesthetic keeps popping up.

Yay

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:All caught up... started off fun, but I'm bored now. I feel like the character dynamic is wearing thin, falling flat, and otherwise 2-dimensional... granted it took Beast Wars this long to get traction, so now that the Decepticons have been established, I'm hoping there will be more interesting interactions and depth put into these characters. They're cute, but it's like har har okay so what else is there to you? I feel like the Autobots can be kind of douchey, and then some of the Decepticons (Springload, Ped, and Clampdown) are endearing like a bunch of Waspinators... that to me actually makes the show frustrating because I end up rooting for just the Decepticons instead of both of them. I'd rank this show pretty low...

Actually, the characters were pretty one-dimensional in the pilot, but have been receiving more layers since then. Bumblebee, Sideswipe, Fixit, and Strongarm all have clearer motives, personalities, and flaws than we were originally supposed to accept. Grimlock's still pretty flat, though. As for the Decepticons, I only really find Steeljaw, Thunderhoof, and Clampdown all that engaging. Underbite is this show's Breakdown without the cool design and Fracture just sort of exists. Also, his minicons are about as interesting and useful as paste.

PrymeStriker wrote:

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:All caught up... started off fun, but I'm bored now. I feel like the character dynamic is wearing thin, falling flat, and otherwise 2-dimensional... granted it took Beast Wars this long to get traction, so now that the Decepticons have been established, I'm hoping there will be more interesting interactions and depth put into these characters. They're cute, but it's like har har okay so what else is there to you? I feel like the Autobots can be kind of douchey, and then some of the Decepticons (Springload, Ped, and Clampdown) are endearing like a bunch of Waspinators... that to me actually makes the show frustrating because I end up rooting for just the Decepticons instead of both of them. I'd rank this show pretty low...

Actually, the characters were pretty one-dimensional in the pilot, but have been receiving more layers since then. Bumblebee, Sideswipe, Fixit, and Strongarm all have clearer motives, personalities, and flaws than we were originally supposed to accept. Grimlock's still pretty flat, though. As for the Decepticons, I only really find Steeljaw, Thunderhoof, and Clampdown all that engaging. Underbite is this show's Breakdown without the cool design and Fracture just sort of exists. Also, his minicons are about as interesting and useful as paste.

All they do is squabble and have 1 personality trait. Sideswipe is the rebel, Strongarm worries, Fixit is a geek, Bumblebee is douchey, and Grimlock's cute. There's really not that much range... they're each stuck in their own schtick

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:All they do is squabble and have 1 personality trait. Sideswipe is the rebel, Strongarm worries, Fixit is a geek, Bumblebee is douchey, and Grimlock's cute. There's really not that much range... they're each stuck in their own schtick

That's not entirely true.

Sideswipe has a constant need to show off and prove that he's cool. He cares a lot about what his piers think and tries to impress them by opposing authority. In "Can You Dig It," he finds an idol in Jazz, and will likely learn over time that you can follow the rules and still be cool.

As such, he clashes with Strongarm. She doesn't really worry, much more than she hates grinding against protocol. On the surface, she's your standard by-the-book archetype. However, like Sideswipe, she seems to have a constant need to prove something to somebody. In her case, she wants to prove to Bumblebee that she's a good cadet and could make a good superior like her supervisor.

Fixit, as you said, is a geek. As he's only had one focus episode so far, there hasn't been a whole lot of development on his part. Besides, with Bumblebee, Strongarm, and Sideswipe being the most prominent characters, it's hard to get a word in edgewise. However, what he lacks in depth so far, he makes up for in entertainment quality. His stuttering issues and bubbly/friendly personality make him a pleasure to watch whenever he's on camera.

Bumblebee is far from being a douche. He's just a police lieutenant that was thrown into the position of leader after being stranded on Earth with two teenagers, a criminal, and a minicon. then shoved into hunting Decepticon inmates. As such, he's trying to find his grounding as a leader. Characterized by his lame "roll out" phrases and his sometimes faulty decision making, he finds that his team doesn't always take him seriously as he tries to be the leader Optimus was. What he discovers and is learning is how to lead in his own right, not like his former leader. Also, any depth or backstory this character received has run its course in Prime. Therefore, they're trying and succeeding in giving him a new arc.

Although, you're right that Grimlock's about as deep as a kiddie pool and as intricate as a pencil holder.

PrymeStriker wrote:

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:All they do is squabble and have 1 personality trait. Sideswipe is the rebel, Strongarm worries, Fixit is a geek, Bumblebee is douchey, and Grimlock's cute. There's really not that much range... they're each stuck in their own schtick

That's not entirely true.

Sideswipe has a constant need to show off and prove that he's cool. He cares a lot about what his piers think and tries to impress them by opposing authority. In "Can You Dig It," he finds an idol in Jazz, and will likely learn over time that you can follow the rules and still be cool.

As such, he clashes with Strongarm. She doesn't really worry, much more than she hates grinding against protocol. On the surface, she's your standard by-the-book archetype. However, like Sideswipe, she seems to have a constant need to prove something to somebody. In her case, she wants to prove to Bumblebee that she's a good cadet and could make a good superior like her supervisor.

Fixit, as you said, is a geek. As he's only had one focus episode so far, there hasn't been a whole lot of development on his part. Besides, with Bumblebee, Strongarm, and Sideswipe being the most prominent characters, it's hard to get a word in edgewise. However, what he lacks in depth so far, he makes up for in entertainment quality. His stuttering issues and bubbly/friendly personality make him a pleasure to watch whenever he's on camera.

Bumblebee is far from being a douche. He's just a police lieutenant that was thrown into the position of leader after being stranded on Earth with two teenagers, a criminal, and a minicon. then shoved into hunting Decepticon inmates. As such, he's trying to find his grounding as a leader. Characterized by his lame "roll out" phrases and his sometimes faulty decision making, he finds that his team doesn't always take him seriously as he tries to be the leader Optimus was. What he discovers and is learning is how to lead in his own right, not like his former leader. Also, any depth or backstory this character received has run its course in Prime. Therefore, they're trying and succeeding in giving him a new arc.

Although, you're right that Grimlock's about as deep as a kiddie pool and as intricate as a pencil holder.

Wall of text. My opinion man. To me they are not interesting like The Vok stories and seeing characters like Tarantulas, Rattrap being defiant, argumentative, emotional, and vulnerable in Beast Machines, or the relationship between Blackarachnia and Silverbolt... these characters are cardboard in comparison IMHO

And the Beast Wars characters only got their depth after more than one season.

NuclearConvoy wrote:And the Beast Wars characters only got their depth after more than one season.

Which I stated in my very first comment. I am judging what we have thus far, and stated what I hoped to see in the future.

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Granted it took Beast Wars this long to get traction, so now that the Decepticons have been established, I'm hoping there will be more interesting interactions and depth put into these characters.

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Wall of text. My opinion man.

So you're just goona ignore the good stuff he wrote because you don't want to read it?

Sabrblade wrote:

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:Wall of text. My opinion man.

So you're just goona ignore the good stuff he wrote because you don't want to read it?

Unfortunately it seems like that. I read that very short "wall of text" while pinching off a loaf. We live in an attention deficit universe.

I don't need to read it. Why would I read something that 1.) I didn't ask for, and 2.) won't change my opinion on what I watched on my own? I don't need to be persuaded... I think the show sucks so far. You can either accept that or ignore it. People defend G1 tooth and nail and I still think it's awful. I don't have to waste my time. No disrespect to the poster, but I think my opinion should also be respected especially since I watched every episode before forming an opinion.
I don't appriciate being called attention deficit offhandedly because I choose not to read every opinion on the Internet.

So you expect other people to respect your opinion ion but you don't want to Reciprocate?

NuclearConvoy wrote:So you expect other people to respect your opinion ion but you don't want to Reciprocate?

I'm not disrespecting anybody, dude. Why are you hung up on something that doesn't matter? I said you can accept my opinion or ignore it, which is what I do to others. PrymeStriker replied to my post and I kept explaining my reasons. It was not the other way around. Ya'll can like the show for all I care, I'm not going to try to convince you otherwise.

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:PrymeStriker replied to my post and I kept explaining my reasons. It was not the other way around.

Yes it was. He explained his reasons too. Only difference was that he did read your reasons, which prompted him to respond in kind with his own reasons. That's how discussions work. Both parties contribute in equal portions out of fairness.

Sabrblade wrote:

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:PrymeStriker replied to my post and I kept explaining my reasons. It was not the other way around.

Yes it was. He explained his reasons too. Only difference was that he did read your reasons, which prompted him to respond in kind with his own reasons. That's how discussions work. Both parties contribute in equal portions out of fairness.

Reciprocation.

Someone care to explain what the problem is? MSG1996 gave his opinion and has been respectful of others ... maybe some of you should get off his case.
(HINT: That's a suggestion, not open for discussion. Back on topic please)

MartianSpyGirl1996 wrote:All they do is squabble and have 1 personality trait. Sideswipe is the rebel, Strongarm worries, Fixit is a geek, Bumblebee is douchey, and Grimlock's cute. There's really not that much range... they're each stuck in their own schtick

So too, did the Beast Wars characters, well into Beast Machines (a lot of it came from Rattrap, admittedly). And the Animated characters. And the Prime characters. Even G1 had the good guys squabbling amongst themselves at times.

PrymeStriker wrote:...Strongarm. She doesn't really worry, much more than she hates grinding against protocol. On the surface, she's your standard by-the-book archetype. However, like Sideswipe, she seems to have a constant need to prove something to somebody. In her case, she wants to prove to Bumblebee that she's a good cadet and could make a good superior like her supervisor.

Pretty much your standard Academy grad/rookie lawman character. But we are starting to see her starting to learn that sometimes you have to bend a little to get the job done. How far that character arc will go is anyone's guess.

PrymeStriker wrote:Fixit, as you said, is a geek. As he's only had one focus episode so far, there hasn't been a whole lot of development on his part. Besides, with Bumblebee, Strongarm, and Sideswipe being the most prominent characters, it's hard to get a word in edgewise. However, what he lacks in depth so far, he makes up for in entertainment quality. His stuttering issues and bubbly/friendly personality make him a pleasure to watch whenever he's on camera.

Hopefully we'll see his character arc as the series goes on. Right now, he's just there to provide exposition on the Decepticon-Criminal-of-the-week.

PrymeStriker wrote:Bumblebee is far from being a douche. He's just a police lieutenant that was thrown into the position of leader after being stranded on Earth with two teenagers, a criminal, and a minicon. then shoved into hunting Decepticon inmates. As such, he's trying to find his grounding as a leader. Characterized by his lame "roll out" phrases and his sometimes faulty decision making, he finds that his team doesn't always take him seriously as he tries to be the leader Optimus was. What he discovers and is learning is how to lead in his own right, not like his former leader. Also, any depth or backstory this character received has run its course in Prime. Therefore, they're trying and succeeding in giving him a new arc.

This is pretty much what Rodimus Prime's character arc in G1 should have been, but I'm getting ahead of myself there. Bumblebee is also a vet of the last war, but he spent most of it as a scout, and only had a brief stint as leader during "Predacons Rising." In a sense, he's the vet of the team, but he's learning how to be a team leader, as Striker said, with a team made up of what are essentially rookies.

PrymeStriker wrote:Although, you're right that Grimlock's about as deep as a kiddie pool and as intricate as a pencil holder.

I think part of the problem with Grimlock is that we all got used to the Grimlock from "Fall of Cybertron," not to mention this is yet *another* "goofy Grimlock" we've seen in the franchise. This is, of course, assuming that RiD15 Grimlock is the same character as FoC Grimlock (they very likely are) - the writers haven't delved into Grimlock's character arc yet. Hopefully, we'll get some story as to why he was stuffed into that stasis pod and had a Decepticon symbol stamped on him later in the series. Especially since this series seems to treat "Decepticon" as synonymous with "criminal" (aside from Fracture, who probably was a Decepticon by choice) - some of these "Decepticons" don't seem like individuals that Megatron would have tolerated on his team (Springload and Clampdown come to mind, personally).

Switching gears a bit, anyone think it's possible any of the Rescue Bots characters might make an appearance on RiD? Granted, they never showed up in Prime (never stopped Optimus or 'Bee from showing up in RB), but it would nice for at least one of them to show up in this show. Personally, I think Heatwave would be the most likely to make the leap to RiD.

If they do show up I hope it's in dinobots form to give more exposition on all the different types of cybertronian life this series toys with .

I can't see them turning up as by this stage Rescue Bots should be set in RiD's past, so if they were to turn up, it would be post-RB characters.

Burn wrote:I can't see them turning up as by this stage Rescue Bots should be set in RiD's past, so if they were to turn up, it would be post-RB characters.

Oh, absolutely it would be in a post RB role, with the characters being somewhat "legendary" in their own right. Indeed, we could see Heatwave leading a new group of Rescue Bots and Chase being promoted to be the leader of his own team (possibly Boulder and Blades as well). Or Heatwave could have left the Rescue Bots (one of his characterizations is that he does want to be part of the front-line Autobots, though that seems to have lessened recently) to either be an independent (like Jazz and Drift) or leading a group similar to Bumblebee's.

Archanubis wrote:

Burn wrote:I can't see them turning up as by this stage Rescue Bots should be set in RiD's past, so if they were to turn up, it would be post-RB characters.

Oh, absolutely it would be in a post RB role, with the characters being somewhat "legendary" in their own right. Indeed, we could see Heatwave leading a new group of Rescue Bots and Chase being promoted to be the leader of his own team (possibly Boulder and Blades as well). Or Heatwave could have left the Rescue Bots (one of his characterizations is that he does want to be part of the front-line Autobots, though that seems to have lessened recently) to either be an independent (like Jazz and Drift) or leading a group similar to Bumblebee's.

This would require the writers to care about the aligned continuity. I don't know yet if they do.

Since Windblade was said long ago that she'll be appearing in the other TF media other then IDW that means she can have a chance to show up in RID15 later on and I'm betting like IDW she'll be a jet with Japanese elements to her like with Drift. What also helps is that the writer who did her first miniseries and currently the second Windblade miniseries at IDW is on the writer staff.

kaijuguy19 wrote:Since Windblade was said long ago that she'll be appearing in the other TF media other then IDW that means she can have a chance to show up in RID15 later on and I'm betting like IDW she'll be a jet with Japanese elements to her like with Drift. What also helps is that the writer who did her first miniseries and currently the second Windblade miniseries at IDW is on the writer staff.

Definitely interested in seeing that design. Sadly I had to pass up on buying a Drift recently (my girlfriend was there to help me reel in my wallet lol) but next time I see him he's mine. After a couple paychecks lol.

Just throwing this out there. Rescue Bots has been no stranger to a few time travel stories.

Thanks to an Amazon listing for a new chapter book based on the Transformers: Robots in Disguise animated series, we have the reveal of a new member of the escaped Decepticons: Scuzzard! You can check out the listing for the book, authored by John Sazaklis and out in May, here, and check out the cover showing off Bumblebee and the new Con below!

The first in an exciting, original chapter book series based on the new Cartoon Network show, Transformers: Robots in Disguise!

Copyright © 2015 Hasbro.

Please tell me he turns into a missile launcher. Also kinda wish they spelled his name Skuzzard so we could spell Skar out of his name. It's the little things, you know?

Emerje

Hope we get a toy. It looks like Filch except with a different head and neck. It would be an easy pretool mold.

Does the new Decepticon, Scuzzard, has a vehicle mode like most other Decepticon, or he is related to or just like Filch?

Wonder how long until Hasbro gets into trouble with that name.



(Google it up and you'll know what I mean.)

NuclearConvoy wrote:This would require the writers to care about the aligned continuity. I don't know yet if they do.

They certainly care when it comes to the cartoons and not the games and books.


Plus they have already made reference to Griffin Rock in the show (regarding Bumblebee's alt mode)

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:(Google it up and you'll know what I mean.)

Oh that is just unfortunate.

Cobotron wrote:

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:(Google it up and you'll know what I mean.)

Oh that is just unfortunate.

It's Nexus Maximus all over again.

mirageandjazz1197 wrote:Wonder how long until Hasbro gets into trouble with that name.

(Google it up and you'll know what I mean.)

And just what are those claws about to do to poor old Bumblebee.
I think this may be worse than Nexus Maximus.

Well, I was thinking about givng this series a try, then I read through this thread a bit. Now I know not to waste my time, though I might dvr it for the boys. Thanks guys.

Ironhidensh wrote:Well, I was thinking about givng this series a try, then I read through this thread a bit. Now I know not to waste my time, though I might dvr it for the boys. Thanks guys.

And just whose posts were you reading, exactly? Most of us who watched all of the first 13 episodes have given the show a Thumbs Up. The majority of the naysayers were those who only watched the first one or two episodes.

Sabrblade wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:Well, I was thinking about givng this series a try, then I read through this thread a bit. Now I know not to waste my time, though I might dvr it for the boys. Thanks guys.

And just whose posts were you reading, exactly? Most of us who watched all of the first 13 episodes have given the show a Thumbs Up. The majority of the naysayers were those who only watched the first one or two episodes.

Yes, I know. The positive reviews are what turned me off. I'm selective in my tv tastes, and this show, while it may be good, is not something I'd enjoy. As said, I will start recording it for my boys.

Ironhidensh wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:Well, I was thinking about givng this series a try, then I read through this thread a bit. Now I know not to waste my time, though I might dvr it for the boys. Thanks guys.

And just whose posts were you reading, exactly? Most of us who watched all of the first 13 episodes have given the show a Thumbs Up. The majority of the naysayers were those who only watched the first one or two episodes.

Yes, I know. The positive reviews are what turned me off. I'm selective in my tv tastes, and this show, while it may be good, is not something I'd enjoy. As said, I will start recording it for my boys.

I'm just curious about what turned you off the series based on positive reviews?

Just isn't my cup of tea, you know? I might finally be out growing kiddie shows. My free time is very limited and this show has nothing appealing to me to watch it over the many other shows I have to watch. I'll see if my boys like it, and maybe give it a chance then.

Hasbo's Official Transformers YouTube channel uploaded two new videos that introduces of the Decepticons Steeljaw and Underbite from the New Robots in Disguise animated series. Check out the videos we've embedded below for your viewing pleasures, and remember keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest in news and updates!

That footage of Airazor and Divebomb riding on Steeljaw's altmode is from a post-episode 13 episode.

"Ever been to Nuon city?"
"No"
"THAT'S 'CAUSE I ATE IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

By the way,why doesn't Steeljaw use his three bladed claw weapon?

If anyone who's been waiting for Cartoon Network USA to air it wants to talk about it, episode 3 aired this morning.

Sabrblade wrote:That footage of Airazor and Divebomb riding on Steeljaw's altmode is from a post-episode 13 episode.

A lot of Steeljaw's video seems to feature scenes from episodes that don't appear to have aired yet.

Lockdownhunter wrote:By the way,why doesn't Steeljaw use his three bladed claw weapon?

I get the feeling that it might have been something the toy designers came up with that the animators didn't.