Transformers Robots in Disguise Amazon UK Listings

So the Three-Steps are now called Hyper Change Heroes? Ok, I can live with that.

*goes to edit her lists*

Hmmmm.. Not feeling it for some reason.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:So the Three-Steps are now called Hyper Change Heroes? Ok, I can live with that.

*goes to edit her lists*

They were called "Hyperchange Heroes" first before the "Three Step Changers" name came about. Now that it's back, it remains to be seen which name is final.

Sabrblade wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:So the Three-Steps are now called Hyper Change Heroes? Ok, I can live with that.

*goes to edit her lists*

They were called "Hyperchange Heroes" first before the "Three Step Changers" name came about. Now that it's back, it remains to be seen which name is final.

For the love of Primus, just pick a name and stick with it!

Look like Hasbro continue the AoE trend of having "stomp n changes" and 1 step changers along the regular deluxes and voyagers.

I accept those because they are still transformers and can be fun. However, I do hope they stop producing non transforming toys like those "shampoo bottles" "action" figures, or those pointless dino riders.

That sword bumblebee has looks familiar ... if that is what I think it is.
time to get a new bumblebee figure maybe modify it with 5mm holes so it can hold more glorious weapons and or arms microns or Armada over-run

I'm really hoping that tail is detached from Grimlock in robot mode because that's what they had to do to fit him in the box and someone just screwed up, rather than removing the tail and setting it aside being part of how he transforms. I can put up with a little partsforming, but I do insist the parts go back on at some point.

These designs, character and transformation, look real kid friendly. And I'm OK with that.
I hope they give us some legion/mini size toys too. Are they? Do we already know that?
More Cyberverse please.

I'm also interested in finding out more about how the badge-scan/app gimmick works.

Cobotron wrote:These designs, character and transformation, look real kid friendly. And I'm OK with that.
I hope they give us some legion/mini size toys too. Are they? Do we already know that?
More Cyberverse please.

I'm also interested in finding out more about how the badge-scan/app gimmick works.

We are getting Legions:

- Bumblebee
- Grimlock
- Optimus Prime
- Sideswipe
- Steeljaw
- Strongarm

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Cobotron wrote:These designs, character and transformation, look real kid friendly. And I'm OK with that.
I hope they give us some legion/mini size toys too. Are they? Do we already know that?
More Cyberverse please.

I'm also interested in finding out more about how the badge-scan/app gimmick works.

We are getting Legions:

- Bumblebee
- Grimlock
- Optimus Prime
- Sideswipe
- Steeljaw
- Strongarm

Sometimes I ask questions hoping you'll answer them JZ Bun.
You got the touch!
Thanx

Nemesis Primal wrote:I'm really hoping that tail is detached from Grimlock in robot mode because that's what they had to do to fit him in the box and someone just screwed up, rather than removing the tail and setting it aside being part of how he transforms. I can put up with a little partsforming, but I do insist the parts go back on at some point.

I think it's supposed to be a weapon of some sort. There really isn't any other reason for that Grimlock to have 5mm pegs otherwise.

Metro Prime wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:I'm really hoping that tail is detached from Grimlock in robot mode because that's what they had to do to fit him in the box and someone just screwed up, rather than removing the tail and setting it aside being part of how he transforms. I can put up with a little partsforming, but I do insist the parts go back on at some point.

I think it's supposed to be a weapon of some sort. There really isn't any other reason for that Grimlock to have 5mm pegs otherwise.

I thought that for a bit, but I don't see any pegs on that tail, so I figured that answer wasn't gonna be the answet.

LOST Cybertronian wrote:The listing mislablels Warriors Bumblebee as a 1-step.

Okay, this illustrates my misgivings about the '3 to 5 different difficulty-level figures for each character' trend. It's a great way to give everyone from preschoolers to adult collectors the toys they want, IF everyone can keep all the variations straight. But while an Amazon listing is easily called out here or any other fansite, and will be corrected before long, I have a bad feeling that this is just confusing the heck out of kids and their parents, causing consistent clusters of chronic shelfwarming.

I can't even remember which AofE characters have or haven't gotten figures in different brackets on which side of the Pacific, and I'm supposedly be the expert at my store. And I for one, LOVED that movie more than the first 3 put together, so I actually do CARE...but it's still not enough. Just today, someone was asking for "the Bumblebee car". While that does conveniently rule out the shampoo bottles and any Rescue Bot Raptors, it's not quite enough, and I can just imagine that being a typical 5 year old's response to an overwhelmed mother asking, "which Bumblebee?" With most other characters, the problem would be only having one version of them in stock, making the odds at best 1 in 3 that it's the desired one.

I'm just saying that Hasbro needs to somehow better communicate how the different difficulty levels work, or this isn't going to move enough lower-production-cost toys to stave off the scourge of higher plastic prices in the long run. Maybe more elaborate diagrams on the packaging than just the 1-2-3 system on the front?

Why do we need to have the same characters at every price point anyways? Why not have different characters occupy different price points like they did roughly from Beast Wars to Animated, rather than making Bumblebee in every shape and size?

Nemesis Primal wrote:Why do we need to have the same characters at every price point anyways? Why not have different characters occupy different price points like they did roughly from Beast Wars to Animated, rather than making Bumblebee in every shape and size?

It's the strategy they implemented with the first movie, I think it was in response to customer/retailer complaints; make the core/popular characters in all the price points/sizes.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:Why do we need to have the same characters at every price point anyways? Why not have different characters occupy different price points like they did roughly from Beast Wars to Animated, rather than making Bumblebee in every shape and size?

It's the strategy they implemented with the first movie, I think it was in response to customer/retailer complaints; make the core/popular characters in all the price points/sizes.

For the first three movies and the cartoons from that time period, it was still not quite on the level it's become with AoE and the new RiD show, though.

BB looks so cool!

Nemesis Primal wrote:Why do we need to have the same characters at every price point anyways? Why not have different characters occupy different price points like they did roughly from Beast Wars to Animated, rather than making Bumblebee in every shape and size?

Because even in Beast Wars, you had Basic level figures with full articulation, but I'd be very upset if the first new character we get (Strongarm) was only released as a flip-change brick. (Dog-goonit i want my Generations Rescue Bots) c

The original spring changers like Terrorsaur and Megaplex was a perfectly good cigure, i wish we could at least get back to those. They had ball joints; elbows, knees, hips, shoulders.

Nemesis Primal wrote:Why do we need to have the same characters at every price point anyways? Why not have different characters occupy different price points like they did roughly from Beast Wars to Animated, rather than making Bumblebee in every shape and size?

Because even in Beast Wars, you had Basic level figures with full articulation, but I'd be very upset if the first new character we get (Strongarm) was only released as a flip-change brick. (Dog-goonit i want my Generations Rescue Bots) c

The original spring changers like Terrorsaur and Megaplex was a perfectly good cigure, i wish we could at least get back to those. They had ball joints; elbows, knees, hips, shoulders.

Cobotron wrote:I'm also interested in finding out more about how the badge-scan/app gimmick works.

If you mean what it's reading, it looks like the dot and dash patterns around the badges are unique. It will just use the camera to scan the dot pattern like a QR or bar code only much simpler.

Flashwave wrote:(Dog-goonit i want my Generations Rescue Bots)

Well, don't lose hope on that, but you might be waiting a long time for those.

At BotCon 2014, me and the guys I was hanging out with had lunch with two members of the current Hasbro TF design team. I believe they were Ben Montano and Lenny Panzica. During the lunch, we got talking about things we'd never ever expect Hasbro to ever make, and I brought up the idea of "show-accurate, fully articulated, regular style Deluxe or Voyager versions of the Rescue Bots," and the two of them were like "Now, wait, hold on sec!" They didn't see that idea as much of an impossibility as I suggested it would be, and gave a convincing argument for why Hasbro would be willing to make those kinds of toys, but at some point further down the road in the future rather than any time soon.

They based their logic on how kids who grew up on Beast Wars and Armada are showing interest in the Generations toys for Waspinator/Rhinox/Rattrap and Armada Starscream, and so rationalized that kids who grow up on Rescue Bots now would similarly show a likely interest in getting better toy versions of those characters when they get older, based on that same kind of nostalgia that those who grew up on Beast Wars and Armada display for the Generations toys of those series' characters.

So, yeah, they are well aware of the demand for something like Generations toys for the Rescue Bots, but feel they would do better for not just the collectors of today but for kids of today as well when those kids grow up and graduate into the more advanced lines in the years to come, to better capitalize on the nostalgia they (and we adult fans of the show) would come to have. So if we do ever get Generations Rescue Bots, they'll probably come along in the not-too-near future. But better later than never at all.

(Dog-goonit i want my Generations Rescue Bots)

Hey, they put Heatwave in the Angry Birds game! And he's awesome in it

but does he combine to form nestus prime?

Nemesis Primal wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Nemesis Primal wrote:Why do we need to have the same characters at every price point anyways? Why not have different characters occupy different price points like they did roughly from Beast Wars to Animated, rather than making Bumblebee in every shape and size?

It's the strategy they implemented with the first movie, I think it was in response to customer/retailer complaints; make the core/popular characters in all the price points/sizes.

For the first three movies and the cartoons from that time period, it was still not quite on the level it's become with AoE and the new RiD show, though.

I think they added a few sub-lines to have an even cheaper price point. Remember for some even a Legion/Legends figure might be too expensive.

Anyone notice that BB looks like Hot rod?

Lockdownhunter wrote:Anyone notice that BB looks like Hot rod?

More like BB looks like BB but yellow:

A slew of new Amazon listings are now up and they each include three pictures of each of the following figures:

One-Step Strongarm
One-Step Sideswipe
One-Step Bumblebee
One-Step Underbite

Warrior Class Grimlock
Warrior Class Bumblebee

Legion Sideswipe
Legion Grimlock
Legion Optimus prime

Each listing includes an image of the toy in both modes as well as a new official in package image of the toy.

I like the look of these, will definitely be picking up the legion figures where I can.

I still hate that green thing. It reminds me of when Hasbro used the name Grimlock in Robots in Disguise for that other green thing. I don't think I'm ever going to stop being bitter about this. Oh well, at least I'll still be able to get a lobster car Decepticon out of this toyline.

Yeah, if they don't do a repaint Grimlock in gray, will be quite disgruntled.

What happened to that really really nice looking Bumblebee that we started seeing a long time ago? Is it, like, another 1st edition deal, so it's not getting much advertisement?

DecepticonFinishline wrote:What happened to that really really nice looking Bumblebee that we started seeing a long time ago? Is it, like, another 1st edition deal, so it's not getting much advertisement?

The Warriors class one? It's listed - http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00LXCKA6S?tag=seibertron07-20&

gothsaurus wrote:Yeah, if they don't do a repaint Grimlock in gray, will be quite disgruntled.

I think it's more that they used the name Grimlock on a character that isn't Grimlock. If the character was Grimlock, the guy from G1/Fall of Cybertron, then that would be different, I would be fine with that even if it was green, or blue, or all grey and black with some green mossy bits. It's like if they took Scorponok and turned him into a rapper. It just doesn't suit the character at all.

No no. I mean for this new RID dino grimlock. I was okay with the old RID steam shovel one. That's how I took it as well — re-use of a name.

I'm gonna save a crap-ton of money by getting nothing from this line.

rpetras wrote:I'm gonna save a crap-ton of money by getting nothing from this line.

With the Masterpiece line, the Generations line, and the Combiner Wars line, along with whatever 3rd party things you buy, I don't think you need to worry about saving money.

The new pictures post has been updated with even more pictures !!!

the legion figures look nice but everything else looks terrible, and like many others im not digging the green grimock.

I actually find UNderbite quite the interesting one step changer. When I first saw the pics, he looked really unappealing, but now that I know he transforms in just a step, the vehicle and beat mode make mroe sense to look the way they do and the instructions marked on his box show us a new type of one step transformation I had not seen before.

The vehicle mode is particularly odd in a real interesting way:

DecepticonFinishline wrote:What happened to that really really nice looking Bumblebee that we started seeing a long time ago? Is it, like, another 1st edition deal, so it's not getting much advertisement?

He's there but at a different angle. And this time it's coloured plastic and not fully painted like all Hasbro Stock images are initially (and in less perfect lighting and so on).

Pretty much, without all the marketting flash, this



becomes this



Still interested?

Why are so many complaining about Grimlock being green? I didn't hear many complaints when those first pics of AOE Grimlock came out, showing him with a largely bronze color scheme.

Hmm, while I like the style of the designs, none of the figures are really doing it for me so far. I'm probably going to skip this line other than an Optimus Prime if they do a good one. More money for Combiner Wars.

bluecatcinema wrote:Why are so many complaining about Grimlock being green? I didn't hear many complaints when those first pics of AOE Grimlock came out, showing him with a largely bronze color scheme.

Like I said, it's not so much the colour as it is the characters personality that bothers me, and in fact I rather like the AoE Grimlock.

I kinda figured they'd have scrapped the onestepers by now. Oh well, I'm just happy they brought back legion class after their absence from the movie.

The more I look at the Warriors Grimlock figure the more I'm starting to like him. I like how he looks almost spot on to how he looks in the show in both modes. Underbite and Leigon Sideswipe look good too.

Also is it just me or do both Warrior Bumblebee and Grimlock look pretty large in the packaging? Somehow they seem larger then the other Deluxe's we've been getting in the Generations line currently. If that's the case that's cool because it'll make up for not having Voyager figures of Optimus and Grimlock since their Warrior figures are almost as tall if not as tall as most modern Voyagers.

kaijuguy19 wrote:The more I look at the Warriors Grimlock figure the more I'm starting to like him. I like how he looks almost spot on to how he looks in the show in both modes. Underbite and Leigon Sideswipe look good too.

Also is it just me or do both Warrior Bumblebee and Grimlock look pretty large in the packaging? Somehow they seem larger then the other Deluxe's we've been getting in the Generations line currently. If that's the case that's cool because it'll make up for not having Voyager figures of Optimus and Grimlock since their Warrior figures are almost as tall if not as tall as most modern Voyagers.

Keep in mind that the Warriors are more akin to the Simplified Deluxes of Beast Hunter, and thus may not feature the Generations level of complexity.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

kaijuguy19 wrote:The more I look at the Warriors Grimlock figure the more I'm starting to like him. I like how he looks almost spot on to how he looks in the show in both modes. Underbite and Leigon Sideswipe look good too.

Also is it just me or do both Warrior Bumblebee and Grimlock look pretty large in the packaging? Somehow they seem larger then the other Deluxe's we've been getting in the Generations line currently. If that's the case that's cool because it'll make up for not having Voyager figures of Optimus and Grimlock since their Warrior figures are almost as tall if not as tall as most modern Voyagers.

Keep in mind that the Warriors are more akin to the Simplified Deluxes of Beast Hunter, and thus may not feature the Generations level of complexity.

That's true. Though I still wonder that since they don't seem to be too complex I wonder if the plastic does go into their size thus making them bigger as a result.

I think it does as BH Windrazor simplified deluxe is bigger than the other deluxes in the same line.

i dont mind the green grimlock. but id like to see the "big boy toys" already.

shajaki wrote:i dont mind the green grimlock. but id like to see the "big boy toys" already.

For this particular line, I would not hold my breath.