Transformers: Robots in Disguise Activator Soundwave and Lazerbeak Found at US Retail

Twinferno is exactly what every collector feared when we first saw the Robots in Disguise line. He is overly simplistic, feels cheap and sports few details.

He truly feels like a toy for younger kids. The sad thing is that there is almost nothing ingenious about him. Certain kids toys can be fun to transform with their quick changing gimmick like Rescuebot, but Twinferno wouln't really offer anything fun to anyone. Any kid wanting a more streamlined transformer is much better off getting an Optimus Prime or Bumblebee from the Robots in Disguise line.





The simple transformation is one of my biggest griefs about this toy. All you have to do is bring in his legs and have him raise his arms. You then just put the wings and cockpit down and that's it. What blows is that this is very indicative in the design where you end up with a spaceship that has two dragon heads sprouting out of it. At least if it had those heads concealed it would make for a more interesting transformer but here it's just all the robot mode elements again. It's not that different to when you lift a Superman figure's arms in the air and call that a flight mode.





The deco isn't great either, it has way too much of that neon salmon that looks like those stickers distributed around Halloween to prevent kids from getting run over.





And it just feels so cheap. The quality control fails too with the left foot not being able to peg in correctly due to a far too narrow hole. They are dumb feet anyway, it's the kind of step that adds nothing. All you do is slightly compress the foot for the alt mode. The robot foot is still clearly visible so he might as well have had the feet be part of the same leg piece like some cyber trim toys of old. At least that way the foot would not keep falling off when you tried transforming him properly. And yes, since his foot can't be straightened out, stability problems might ensue.



The way they handle the fire breathing dragon heads is also a head scratcher.





Notice how the underside of the dragon head has a peg? I figured it was to secure the flames when they are in his mouth. But it doesn't fit that way so all those peg holes are good for is holding the flames UNDER the dragon jaws. They still fit in the mouth, but upside down, so what you see is the hollowed out side of the flames.





I think my biggest beef of all with this toy is that the fans who believe this line is junk clogging up shelves now have a mascot. The only saving grace here, aside from the nice looking dragon heads, is that he is an autobot and does not tarnish the wonderful reputation of the Robots in Disguise Decepticon toys.

I'm looking at RiD "Blastwave", and the sculpting seems identical to Bludgeon. Even da face....

DeathReviews wrote:I'm looking at RiD "Blastwave", and the sculpting seems identical to Bludgeon. Even da face....

Well... yeah. They're redecos of each other. Same tooling, different colors.

Sabrblade wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:I'm looking at RiD "Blastwave", and the sculpting seems identical to Bludgeon. Even da face....

Well... yeah. They're redecos of each other. Same tooling, different colors.

They went cheap on at least giving Blastwave a new face

Man, that's really disappointing. Twinferno was looking so cool too...

A few minor tweaks and they could have had a Dragon mode and a jet mode and a robot mode.

At least his head can be hidden in vehicle mode.

william-james88 wrote:When it comes to Thermidor, this review, and images found within, will mostly be comparing him to Bisk. I'd love to review the toy as new but in reality he is similar to Bisk in every way aside from the head and deco. For those who do not own this mold, it is simply perfect. The alt mose is original, the robot mode has great personality with alt mode integration. It's a fun transformation that is not at all bothersome and both intuitive and creative. The real difference here is the deco and the head. The head has very features, he actually has pupils for a change.












The deco for the eyes works rather well. The paint may be sloppy depending on your copy, especially in the lower mandibles. The amount of paint apps between both is almost the same but Thermidore wins out with having his whole abdominal area painted silver while Bisk's is left unpainted. Also, I always appreciate when the rims are painted which is the case here so no need to wait for the Takara version here (not that it would happen).



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I recomend this toy to any fan of the Bisk mold and to those who have not experienced this mold yet, as well to those who want a nice representation of the character found in the show. I am happy with my purchase and there isn't much more I could ask for.

Eh? where did you get him?(Thermindor) coz Kapow doesn't have him yet

anywhoo...Chefatron already has a vid review of him up

Stuartmaximus wrote:Eh? where did you get him?(Thermindor) coz Kapow doesn't have him yet

I got him at my local toysrus in Montreal, Canada.

Ouch. RiD toys already tend to look sorta "kiddie" (especially compared to the greeble-covered TR line and Movieverse), but Twinferno manages to do that even harder.

On the flip side, Thermidor/Bisk looks really nice and could probably get away paling around with Prime bots, like Ripclaw and Rumble or whoever.


Bludgeon... is weirdly in between. I dunno, can't not compare him to the RotF version, which admittedly is like comparing an NES sprite to the full drawing in the instruction manual.

Oh boy, Twinferno looks a mess. I know this gets thrown about a lot with poorly done toys but he really does remind me of a knockoff. Well, not a knockoff but one of those technically original off-brands that exist to trick parents into buying them for their unfortunate children. You know, Converters, Zybots, M.A.R.S Converters etc. Between the complete lack of detail, the atrocious colour choices and the really basic transformation he just looks so, so bad.

Thermidor on the other hand (claw?) looks amazing. That mold looks even sexier in blue.

You guys know what I find pretty nuts? We currently have 0 clue as to what is next for RID Warriors. Usually we know at least one or two waves taht are still to come but right now, I own the latest wave and I have no clue if there will even be another.

Well, Combiner Force Menasor is on amazon. Wanted to buy him, but I'm waiting on a few comics and Ultra bee to hit before I get them all.

I actually like how Twinferno looks. the colors, the look, it works for me. But I am a bit easier to please.

Bludgeon is still a must, still need to get to his wave to buy him.

I am also wondering about a lack of new figures, but I'm sure SDCC will have something

I wonder how many folks who originally passed on Blastwave will now want him after seeing that he's a bounty hunter who uses Cybertronian sign language to communicate.

Sabrblade wrote:I wonder how many folks who originally passed on Blastwave will now want him after seeing that he's a bounty hunter who uses Cybertronian sign language to communicate.

But he's using the wrong mold and has the wrong headsculpt, thats just too bad.

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:I wonder how many folks who originally passed on Blastwave will now want him after seeing that he's a bounty hunter who uses Cybertronian sign language to communicate.

But he's using the wrong mold and has the wrong headsculpt, thats just too bad.

Wait until he appears as a Bludgeon look-a-like in the cartoon, then we'll talk

It endears me enough to him to want him.

And lol, now is when we're starting to talk about toy/cartoon inaccuracy?

william-james88 wrote:You guys know what I find pretty nuts? We currently have 0 clue as to what is next for RID Warriors. Usually we know at least one or two waves taht are still to come but right now, I own the latest wave and I have no clue if there will even be another.

This happened once before with this line, I think just before NYCC last year? It's really ever since info on a whole year's worth of Generations products got leaked that we stopped learning about new products as early as we used to. Other than some of the shots of "Tribute" line products, there's very little period which we both know about and are waiting for release.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:I wonder how many folks who originally passed on Blastwave will now want him after seeing that he's a bounty hunter who uses Cybertronian sign language to communicate.

But he's using the wrong mold and has the wrong headsculpt, thats just too bad.

Wait until he appears as a Bludgeon look-a-like in the cartoon, then we'll talk

I find that highly doubtful. The whole point of him reusing a model is to save money since model creation is the most expensive part of the cartoon process (ever since computers got involved). So them making a new model, based on his toy's looks is very doubtful especially since we were told we wouldnt see Bludgeon in the show (and thus not have his model available for reuse).

I think them colouring his chest to look a bit like a skull in the cartoon is the only sconsolation we will get.

william-james88 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:I wonder how many folks who originally passed on Blastwave will now want him after seeing that he's a bounty hunter who uses Cybertronian sign language to communicate.

But he's using the wrong mold and has the wrong headsculpt, thats just too bad.

Wait until he appears as a Bludgeon look-a-like in the cartoon, then we'll talk

I find that highly doubtful. The whole point of him reusing a model is to save money since model creation is the most expensive part of the cartoon process (ever since computers got involved). So them making a new model, based on his toy's looks is very doubtful especially since we were told we wouldnt see Bludgeon in the show (and thus not have his model available for reuse).

I think them colouring his chest to look a bit like a skull in the cartoon is the only sconsolation we will get.

The chest isn't merely recolored, though. It's a whole new chestplate redesigned from the one Megatronus had:




The head and Autobot badge belt buckle are new as well.

So then its a mix between what we see in the toy and the Megatronus model. But that means that they wont be redoing him to look more like his toy, since some toy aspects are already there. Basically, if ayone expects him to look more like his toy than he toys now, prepare for dissapointment.

I thought it was fine; made him more intimidating and played into the whole we-think-he's-a-bad-guy thing they had going on. And I wasn't thinking of Megatronus at all -- maybe because RiD Megatronus sucks, but hey, I still recognised Blastwave as his own dude.

Besides, as they are, the toy has more detail than the cartoon model. Don't a number of people on here prefer the real-life three-dimensional product to look better detailed than what's seen in the "more simplistic" two-dimensional cartoon?

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Well, Combiner Force Menasor is on amazon. Wanted to buy him, but I'm waiting on a few comics and Ultra bee to hit before I get them all.

I actually like how Twinferno looks. the colors, the look, it works for me. But I am a bit easier to please.

Bludgeon is still a must, still need to get to his wave to buy him.

I am also wondering about a lack of new figures, but I'm sure SDCC will have something

I wouldn't wait on Menasor. I never see the two in stock at the same time and they tend to go quickly.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:Well, Combiner Force Menasor is on amazon. Wanted to buy him, but I'm waiting on a few comics and Ultra bee to hit before I get them all.

I actually like how Twinferno looks. the colors, the look, it works for me. But I am a bit easier to please.

Bludgeon is still a must, still need to get to his wave to buy him.

I am also wondering about a lack of new figures, but I'm sure SDCC will have something

I wouldn't wait on Menasor. I never see the two in stock at the same time and they tend to go quickly.

But they are also not even scheduled to be heading out en masse till next month. I am not concerned about the new stuff being out yet, just more concerned about the lack of wave 4 stuff for TR. RiD is the most up to date line here. Besides, I'm sure they'll be around in stores for a bit once they show up

Yeah Dalton, I wouldnt worry. These are toys that are gonna stick around targets and Walmarts for a while. These are the toys hasbro put everything into for this line so its sure they made enough to kill a horse.

william-james88 wrote:Yeah Dalton, I wouldnt worry. These are toys that are gonna stick around targets and Walmarts for a while. These are the toys hasbro put everything into for this line so its sure they made enough to kill a horse.

I'm excited for the combiners. Between the 3, they will cost less than a single CW combiner, and I don't mind the simplicity of these figures. I watched the reviews on them, and I enjoy them.

Chuck actually said something really good too in his Bee review, something along the lines of "meant for younger audience, but still fun, affordable, and no combiner lean either"

Besides, with TLK and MP's taking up my summer, I am ok with waiting to find the TR wave 5 and RiD Twinferno wave/combiners

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Yeah Dalton, I wouldnt worry. These are toys that are gonna stick around targets and Walmarts for a while. These are the toys hasbro put everything into for this line so its sure they made enough to kill a horse.

I'm excited for the combiners. Between the 3, they will cost less than a single CW combiner, and I don't mind the simplicity of these figures. I watched the reviews on them, and I enjoy them.

Chuck actually said something really good too in his Bee review, something along the lines of "meant for younger audience, but still fun, affordable, and no combiner lean either"

Besides, with TLK and MP's taking up my summer, I am ok with waiting to find the TR wave 5 and RiD Twinferno wave/combiners

Dalton? 3 combiners, I thought besides Bee, Menasor, and Galvatronus we were getting Bruticus too.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Yeah Dalton, I wouldnt worry. These are toys that are gonna stick around targets and Walmarts for a while. These are the toys hasbro put everything into for this line so its sure they made enough to kill a horse.

I'm excited for the combiners. Between the 3, they will cost less than a single CW combiner, and I don't mind the simplicity of these figures. I watched the reviews on them, and I enjoy them.

Chuck actually said something really good too in his Bee review, something along the lines of "meant for younger audience, but still fun, affordable, and no combiner lean either"

Besides, with TLK and MP's taking up my summer, I am ok with waiting to find the TR wave 5 and RiD Twinferno wave/combiners

Dalton? 3 combiners, I thought besides Bee, Menasor, and Galvatronus we were getting Bruticus too.

Bruticus is only speculation for now. Superion seems more likely with Skyhammer and Stormshot.

It'd be nice if we could get some original Combiners, repeating early RiD's trend of introducing new characters rather than repeating old ones

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Yeah Dalton, I wouldnt worry. These are toys that are gonna stick around targets and Walmarts for a while. These are the toys hasbro put everything into for this line so its sure they made enough to kill a horse.

I'm excited for the combiners. Between the 3, they will cost less than a single CW combiner, and I don't mind the simplicity of these figures. I watched the reviews on them, and I enjoy them.

Chuck actually said something really good too in his Bee review, something along the lines of "meant for younger audience, but still fun, affordable, and no combiner lean either"

Besides, with TLK and MP's taking up my summer, I am ok with waiting to find the TR wave 5 and RiD Twinferno wave/combiners

Dalton? 3 combiners, I thought besides Bee, Menasor, and Galvatronus we were getting Bruticus too.

Bruticus is only speculation for now. Superion seems more likely with Skyhammer and Stormshot.

I was running with the 3 confirmed for the moment.

And yeah, that is my name

Found a Transformers bouncy ball at Dollar Tree today. I didn't buy it but here is a picture.

D-Maximus_Prime wrote:I'm excited for the combiners. Between the 3, they will cost less than a single CW combiner, and I don't mind the simplicity of these figures. I watched the reviews on them, and I enjoy them.

The opposite for me. I was looking forward to Menasor, but changed my mind after watching reviews. Looks overly simplistic to me. Maybe if I can pick it up on sale for a good price, I'll bite and give it to my kids. I don't think I'd enjoy it though.

surely to christ we'll eventually get Superion, Defensor & Computron(i doubt they'll give us is....in this line...Sky Reign & Liokaiser)

also

if they did any beasts....we maybe've also seen Predaking(if he still doesn't already exist as a dragon from Beast Hunters?), Piranacon, Abominus & Monstructor

I doubt we'll get anywhere near that many combiners.

Directly from the floor at San Diego Comic Con 2017, site owner Seibertron is providing us images of the display area at the Hasbro booth where they had a nice display of Transformers Robots In Disguise Toys. What we can see for now are some previously revealed toys such as the Bumblebee, Menasor and Galvatronus Combiners and one new Legion reveal: Twinferno. It is written that Legion Twinferno will be in Wave 3 2017, along with Cyclonus and Heatseeker.

We have images of the display below and you can reach the full gallery of said display by clicking any image.

These are only the initial images, of course, expect the full Seibertron.com treatment as the event continues with actual reveals across the weekend, with the Hasbro Breakfast Press event Thursday morning, panel coverage on Friday and Saturday, and follow-ups with official images and more!

Y'know, I wasn't feeling Deluxe RID Twinferno, but I definitely think I'll spring for the legend one. Nice little pocket-money bot who looks pretty good.

My GF is exited for the Cyclonus!

I really like how big that Cyclonus is. Very intimidating...

Kurona wrote:I really like how big that Cyclonus is. Very intimidating...

There is also mini Cyc. Altmode looks really nice. Gonna need to see him out of the box to see how the detail is.

We've seen his renders before. His face is, uh...

In addition to the images seen for figures in the Transformers: Power of the Primes, teased at the Hasbro Breakfast Press Event at SAn Diego Comic Con, we also have images of some new Robots in Disguise Combiner Force toys. Specifically, Crash Combiners Primelock (Optimus Prime + Grimlock) and Saberclaw (Saberhorn + Bisk) - check them out below!

There will be more images throughout the weekend, so expect the full Seibertron.com treatment as the event continues, with panel coverage on Thursday, Friday and Saturday, and follow-ups with official images and more!

Good to see that we finally have a toy of Saberhorn, even if it is just the bottom half of a Crash Combiner. I wonder if they'll bring back Saberhorn and Bisk to have this Combiner in the show?

Getting a little creative, I see. Nice.

This new video features Combiner Force Ultra Bee and Menasor having a wall climbing competition. It's a pretty cool stop motion video. Have a look and let us know what you think!

If you want to see the very latest reveals for RID, check out the Hasbro Breakfast event from SDCC!

Ok that was pretty cute and hilarious.

Deadput wrote:Ok that was pretty cute and hilarious.

Very much agreed.

Kurona wrote:We've seen his renders before. His face is, uh...

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Yeah, he's a butterface.

I was hoping for a TR Cyclonus tbh.

The Autobots still being Hooligans I see (just like the Kreons were)

The big toys of the year for Robots in Disguise have finally reached mass retail with both Ultra Bee and Menasor being found at Toysrus by both Scottimus Prime at the Lake Grove store in Long Island and by dahpadre at the Orland Park store in Illinois. These are two simplified combiners, similar to the cracsh combiner in terms of the triple changing combponent but made up of more members. Galvatronus is expected to come out later this year. These are $29.99 each.

Dunno if already been reported but I saw that Menasor at Toys R Us Cambridge, UK last week.
You can sorta see it at the bottom of this blurry pic of RC Sqweeks I took. Clearly I was more interested in Sqweeks but yeah I did spot the menasor