Transformers Prime "Robots in Disguise" Deluxe Knock Out Gallery
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Posted by Overcracker on April 1st, 2012 @ 2:30pm CDT
With that said, the head mold totally screams BW Terrorsaur at me.
I'll wait for the Takara version. And since I'm already having to import these since they haven't shown up down here, I'd rather pick up the better version even if its a little more expensive.
Posted by Hypershock on April 1st, 2012 @ 2:49pm CDT
Lolz
Maybe in this case stickers might be better.......
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Posted by Twitchythe3rd on April 1st, 2012 @ 2:58pm CDT
I'll grab him if I see him, but won't go out of my way to find him.
Posted by First-Aid on April 1st, 2012 @ 3:06pm CDT
Posted by Counterpunch on April 1st, 2012 @ 3:10pm CDT
They did a crappy job with Knockout. He's a character where his core trait is vanity and they somehow made both modes look like a Chinese dollar store knock-off.
Of all the places to skimp...
I've never really been a doomsayer in regards to the brand, but our toys are getting worse. This is not the same quality product we got during the last run of Generations.
Get ready to see a lot more of this:
Posted by Lord Onixprime on April 1st, 2012 @ 3:20pm CDT
Counterpunch wrote:I can't understand the positive reactions to this.
They did a crappy job with Knockout. He's a character where his core trait is vanity and they somehow made both modes look like a Chinese dollar store knock-off.
Of all the places to skimp...
I've never really been a doomsayer in regards to the brand, but our toys are getting worse. This is not the same quality product we got during the last run of Generations.
Get ready to see a lot more of this:
The vehicle is admittedly horrid, but the only figure in my entire collection displayed in alternate form is Unicron, and that's because he is hanging from the ceiling to conserve shelf space.
Robot mode I think has pulled off the aesthetics as good as they possibly could with the complex designs of these characters. Sure, I'd prefer some more gold highlights, and the headlights to sit on his chest at angles, but I can live with this figure as part of my collection. It could've been better, but it could've been much worse.
After the crap storm that was DotM, I've not had high expectations. I've pretty much come to terms that there will not be a line as accurate as Animated, or as complex as RotF for the foreseeable future. At least, that's the message Hasbro sent when they canceled First Editions (heck,when they made First Editions exclusive to Toysrus, it wasn't a good sign).
Posted by kirbenvost on April 1st, 2012 @ 3:23pm CDT
Anyway, I like the mold, so I'll probably still buy it, but Reprolabels needs to get on it.
Posted by craggy on April 1st, 2012 @ 3:41pm CDT
Overcracker wrote: the head mold totally screams BW Terrorsaur at me.
agreed, and it makes me very happy. Shame about the truly horrible paint. If they'd not been smart and tried to make the car look...okay, honestly, I don't know what they were going for with the car paints, but it can't have been that...anyway, if the paint apps had been less complex on the car's body panels they might have managed to paint the back lights or the wheel rims.
Still, robot mode is pretty nice, looks like an interesting transformation and plenty of articulation. May well pick him up.
Posted by Mindmaster on April 1st, 2012 @ 3:42pm CDT
Posted by MightyMagnus78 on April 1st, 2012 @ 4:02pm CDT
Posted by Jelze Bunnycat on April 1st, 2012 @ 4:04pm CDT
MightyMagnus78 wrote:Nice mold, but those paint apps Takara to the rescue?
Stickers vs. paint. Take your pick
Posted by craggy on April 1st, 2012 @ 4:09pm CDT
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Posted by El Duque on April 1st, 2012 @ 6:13pm CDT
Trikeboy wrote:
Fixed your YouTube code.
Posted by Trikeboy on April 1st, 2012 @ 6:26pm CDT
El Duque wrote:Trikeboy wrote:
Fixed your YouTube code.
Thanks, what did I do wrong, for future reference?
Gonna grab my paint thinner and metallic red paint when I get this one. Reprolabels must be rubbing their hands in delight at this paint job. Hopefully I can make it look like the on screen character. I also hope to pose Arcee on top of him like this .
Posted by El Duque on April 1st, 2012 @ 6:32pm CDT
Trikeboy wrote:Thanks, what did I do wrong, for future reference?
You only want the video identified between the YouTube codes. In the case of this video it's 9RvQ3bhQsjQ. You had the whole embed address, which was http://youtu.be/9RvQ3bhQsjQ. No worries, common mistake.
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Posted by Ultra Markus on April 1st, 2012 @ 9:12pm CDT
the figure its self looks great it would look better
without that paint job than with
if its for real that's the most laziest crappy jobs
i have seen on a deluxe figure
i don't recall any deluxe size TF paint app that sucked this bad
Posted by NatsumeRyu on April 1st, 2012 @ 9:30pm CDT
I actually don't like his forearms or lower legs. and the figure as a whole doesn't sell the character to me. Paintjob aside.
The chest looks far better how it's transformed here than what we've seen in the past though. :/
Posted by Trikeboy on April 1st, 2012 @ 11:13pm CDT
Posted by Flux Convoy on April 1st, 2012 @ 11:40pm CDT
Counterpunch wrote:I can't understand the positive reactions to this.
I actually can't understand all the negative. The only real problems I see are a)the paint deco on the doors is wrong and a bit strange and b)the magenta is a strange hue that doesn't blend as well as I'd prefer. It could stand to be darker. You have to know Reprolabels will do something about the door decos. The rest I can live with. The bot mode and weapon are clean and uncluttered. I'm quite surprised to see this response from you considering how positive you've been with much of the current domestic stuff. Just my two cents, bud.
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on April 2nd, 2012 @ 5:51am CDT
The mold itself looks good enough, though.
I guess I'll have to wait for the Takara imports for better paint--... [remembers the stickers on Takara's PRID figs].
[Sighs] Nevermind. Seems like I'll have to skip this one. Fixing the red is no problem with a rattle can of spray, but the silver accents are way beyond my beginner level modeling skills.
Posted by Counterpunch on April 2nd, 2012 @ 10:29am CDT
Flux Convoy wrote:Counterpunch wrote:I can't understand the positive reactions to this.
I actually can't understand all the negative. The only real problems I see are a)the paint deco on the doors is wrong and a bit strange and b)the magenta is a strange hue that doesn't blend as well as I'd prefer. It could stand to be darker. You have to know Reprolabels will do something about the door decos. The rest I can live with. The bot mode and weapon are clean and uncluttered. I'm quite surprised to see this response from you considering how positive you've been with much of the current domestic stuff. Just my two cents, bud.
Then you know I'm not just spouting off here.
The robot mode is suffering from several hollow points that had this figure been done a year ago, we would not be seeing. His shoulder pads are not right in their position, angle, or color. The arms do the same trick that pRID Cliffjumper does so poorly.
The deco of the car speaks poorly of itself. I don't have to say much. The fact that we're all hoping Reprolabels fixes this before we even have it in hand speaks volumes.
Here's the real issue. This is a character who is supposed to look good. He's supposed to be the best looking alt mode going. I could forgive some of the bot mode issues if I could look at this and say, "Hey, they really understand the character...look at those alt mode paint aps."
What this figure tells me is a confirmation of a somewhat sneaking suspicion I've had about this line...it's not a priority. When I see stuff like this, I know Hasbro has learned the wrong lesson from the success of selling toys in the movie line.
Knockout should be fantastic. He should get the lion's share of paint aps in a given assortment. His appearance should be over the top. At the very least it should be the best in the assortment. Frankly, Hot Shot has more care given to him and he's not even a show character.
Why are they bothering to do such a good show with intricate character designs only to push out inferior product to anything that's come through in the past two years?
I'm not even like a huge Knockout fan or anything. I'm not trying to be confrontational with anyone who likes this toy and I'm not trying to be a dick to other fans here.
I've never gone around saying that toys are getting worse or that "it used to be better way back when".
That being said...I really am starting to think that we've peaked. If this is the best Hasbro can do, then we've entered a whole new age of compromise. And if that's the case, my collecting dollars really will go to other places that do not cut corners.
Posted by RhA on April 2nd, 2012 @ 12:38pm CDT
Counterpunch wrote:Flux Convoy wrote:Counterpunch wrote:I can't understand the positive reactions to this.
I actually can't understand all the negative. The only real problems I see are a)the paint deco on the doors is wrong and a bit strange and b)the magenta is a strange hue that doesn't blend as well as I'd prefer. It could stand to be darker. You have to know Reprolabels will do something about the door decos. The rest I can live with. The bot mode and weapon are clean and uncluttered. I'm quite surprised to see this response from you considering how positive you've been with much of the current domestic stuff. Just my two cents, bud.
Then you know I'm not just spouting off here.
The robot mode is suffering from several hollow points that had this figure been done a year ago, we would not be seeing. His shoulder pads are not right in their position, angle, or color. The arms do the same trick that pRID Cliffjumper does so poorly.
The deco of the car speaks poorly of itself. I don't have to say much. The fact that we're all hoping Reprolabels fixes this before we even have it in hand speaks volumes.
Here's the real issue. This is a character who is supposed to look good. He's supposed to be the best looking alt mode going. I could forgive some of the bot mode issues if I could look at this and say, "Hey, they really understand the character...look at those alt mode paint aps."
What this figure tells me is a confirmation of a somewhat sneaking suspicion I've had about this line...it's not a priority. When I see stuff like this, I know Hasbro has learned the wrong lesson from the success of selling toys in the movie line.
Knockout should be fantastic. He should get the lion's share of paint aps in a given assortment. His appearance should be over the top. At the very least it should be the best in the assortment. Frankly, Hot Shot has more care given to him and he's not even a show character.
Why are they bothering to do such a good show with intricate character designs only to push out inferior product to anything that's come through in the past two years?
I'm not even like a huge Knockout fan or anything. I'm not trying to be confrontational with anyone who likes this toy and I'm not trying to be a dick to other fans here.
I've never gone around saying that toys are getting worse or that "it used to be better way back when".
That being said...I really am starting to think that we've peaked. If this is the best Hasbro can do, then we've entered a whole new age of compromise. And if that's the case, my collecting dollars really will go to other places that do not cut corners.
The real issue IMO is the hollowness of the mold. He looks like a bunch of panels folded up to look like he's a solid robot. All the rest is a matter of taste, really.
Posted by Counterpunch on April 2nd, 2012 @ 1:38pm CDT
RhA wrote:Counterpunch wrote:Flux Convoy wrote:Counterpunch wrote:I can't understand the positive reactions to this.
I actually can't understand all the negative. The only real problems I see are a)the paint deco on the doors is wrong and a bit strange and b)the magenta is a strange hue that doesn't blend as well as I'd prefer. It could stand to be darker. You have to know Reprolabels will do something about the door decos. The rest I can live with. The bot mode and weapon are clean and uncluttered. I'm quite surprised to see this response from you considering how positive you've been with much of the current domestic stuff. Just my two cents, bud.
Then you know I'm not just spouting off here.
The robot mode is suffering from several hollow points that had this figure been done a year ago, we would not be seeing. His shoulder pads are not right in their position, angle, or color. The arms do the same trick that pRID Cliffjumper does so poorly.
The deco of the car speaks poorly of itself. I don't have to say much. The fact that we're all hoping Reprolabels fixes this before we even have it in hand speaks volumes.
Here's the real issue. This is a character who is supposed to look good. He's supposed to be the best looking alt mode going. I could forgive some of the bot mode issues if I could look at this and say, "Hey, they really understand the character...look at those alt mode paint aps."
What this figure tells me is a confirmation of a somewhat sneaking suspicion I've had about this line...it's not a priority. When I see stuff like this, I know Hasbro has learned the wrong lesson from the success of selling toys in the movie line.
Knockout should be fantastic. He should get the lion's share of paint aps in a given assortment. His appearance should be over the top. At the very least it should be the best in the assortment. Frankly, Hot Shot has more care given to him and he's not even a show character.
Why are they bothering to do such a good show with intricate character designs only to push out inferior product to anything that's come through in the past two years?
I'm not even like a huge Knockout fan or anything. I'm not trying to be confrontational with anyone who likes this toy and I'm not trying to be a dick to other fans here.
I've never gone around saying that toys are getting worse or that "it used to be better way back when".
That being said...I really am starting to think that we've peaked. If this is the best Hasbro can do, then we've entered a whole new age of compromise. And if that's the case, my collecting dollars really will go to other places that do not cut corners.
The real issue IMO is the hollowness of the mold. He looks like a bunch of panels folded up to look like he's a solid robot. All the rest is a matter of taste, really.
Are you saying that it's a matter of taste as to whether or not a toy and the character it represents should reflect the fictional portrayal?
Posted by Mr O on April 2nd, 2012 @ 1:40pm CDT
Posted by First-Aid on April 2nd, 2012 @ 5:01pm CDT
Counterpunch wrote:RhA wrote:Counterpunch wrote:Flux Convoy wrote:Counterpunch wrote:I can't understand the positive reactions to this.
I actually can't understand all the negative. The only real problems I see are a)the paint deco on the doors is wrong and a bit strange and b)the magenta is a strange hue that doesn't blend as well as I'd prefer. It could stand to be darker. You have to know Reprolabels will do something about the door decos. The rest I can live with. The bot mode and weapon are clean and uncluttered. I'm quite surprised to see this response from you considering how positive you've been with much of the current domestic stuff. Just my two cents, bud.
Then you know I'm not just spouting off here.
The robot mode is suffering from several hollow points that had this figure been done a year ago, we would not be seeing. His shoulder pads are not right in their position, angle, or color. The arms do the same trick that pRID Cliffjumper does so poorly.
The deco of the car speaks poorly of itself. I don't have to say much. The fact that we're all hoping Reprolabels fixes this before we even have it in hand speaks volumes.
Here's the real issue. This is a character who is supposed to look good. He's supposed to be the best looking alt mode going. I could forgive some of the bot mode issues if I could look at this and say, "Hey, they really understand the character...look at those alt mode paint aps."
What this figure tells me is a confirmation of a somewhat sneaking suspicion I've had about this line...it's not a priority. When I see stuff like this, I know Hasbro has learned the wrong lesson from the success of selling toys in the movie line.
Knockout should be fantastic. He should get the lion's share of paint aps in a given assortment. His appearance should be over the top. At the very least it should be the best in the assortment. Frankly, Hot Shot has more care given to him and he's not even a show character.
Why are they bothering to do such a good show with intricate character designs only to push out inferior product to anything that's come through in the past two years?
I'm not even like a huge Knockout fan or anything. I'm not trying to be confrontational with anyone who likes this toy and I'm not trying to be a dick to other fans here.
I've never gone around saying that toys are getting worse or that "it used to be better way back when".
That being said...I really am starting to think that we've peaked. If this is the best Hasbro can do, then we've entered a whole new age of compromise. And if that's the case, my collecting dollars really will go to other places that do not cut corners.
The real issue IMO is the hollowness of the mold. He looks like a bunch of panels folded up to look like he's a solid robot. All the rest is a matter of taste, really.
Are you saying that it's a matter of taste as to whether or not a toy and the character it represents should reflect the fictional portrayal?
As much as I agree with the obvious quality issues, I really don't think the kids are going to give a rat's patootie about it.
Posted by R3-T7 on April 2nd, 2012 @ 8:46pm CDT
Posted by R3-T7 on April 2nd, 2012 @ 8:50pm CDT
Posted by DISCHARGE on April 2nd, 2012 @ 9:12pm CDT
The attention to detail for the R\C version is over the top and will most likely sit on shelves. The deluxe version has the potential to sell much better, but will drive people away with what looks like a disaster.
Posted by First-Aid on April 2nd, 2012 @ 10:27pm CDT
DISCHARGE wrote:I think the R\C version of him is much cooler
The attention to detail for the R\C version is over the top and will most likely sit on shelves. The deluxe version has the potential to sell much better, but will drive people away with what looks like a disaster.
Which people would those be? The collectors? Or the 7 years olds yelling "GIMME GIMME GIMME" at their parents who could really care less about if a paint app is off?
We as collectors have been spoiled by the third-party companies, and we will miss them when they are gone. But the average kid- at whom these toys are aimed- and their parents- who could care less what the toy looks like as long as it shuts up the kids- will not care. It is about the character to them, and let's face it...the kids are going to beat the crap out of the toy anyways. If the kids want it, the parents will buy it. If Breakdown or Wheeljack or Dreadwing are their favorites, then no amount of damage or bad paint will deter them from getting that figure as long as the character is recognizable.
Posted by Nemesis Destron on April 2nd, 2012 @ 10:59pm CDT
Posted by DISCHARGE on April 2nd, 2012 @ 11:22pm CDT
First-Aid wrote:Which people would those be? The collectors? Or the 7 years olds yelling "GIMME GIMME GIMME" at their parents who could really care less about if a paint app is off?
We as collectors have been spoiled by the third-party companies, and we will miss them when they are gone. But the average kid- at whom these toys are aimed- and their parents- who could care less what the toy looks like as long as it shuts up the kids- will not care. It is about the character to them, and let's face it...the kids are going to beat the crap out of the toy anyways. If the kids want it, the parents will buy it. If Breakdown or Wheeljack or Dreadwing are their favorites, then no amount of damage or bad paint will deter them from getting that figure as long as the character is recognizable.
Well, I won't miss the 3rd party stuff, I haven't bought much of any of it.
Parents do care what the toys they give their kids look like, I say no to my daughter all the time if I don't think what she wants is quality(unless she spends her own money on it).
I took pretty good care of my toys even though I played with them as a kid.
I've had Dead Eye since I was a kid. He's missing his accessories, but he's in pretty good shape. I played with that thing every blam day for a long time.
I didn't baby that thing thinking it would have value some day, it was just a toy. But it is a quality toy.
But toys do get played with, your right, they'll get beaten up. But does that mean it should look that way out of the package?
You like the looks of him, fine. I think the deluxe looks like an unfinished POS. It looks like they tried to copy the basic aesthetics of Terradive in making him lean, I don't think it works for KNockout. I think he looks boring and generic.
If you pay any attention to toys like the R\C stuff for Transformers(I'm sure you do) you've probably noticed they sit on shelves. They dedicated a lot of thought and energy into developing a very good looking Knockout in the R\C division(yellow rims, shiny\clean\sharp lined paint) and the
Deluxe(dull colored plastic, sloppy\lazy paint scheme, Stikfas looking body) is sorely lacking in love.
As much as people try to yell that the kids drive the toy market, collectors play a huge role in it, probably more than the market research people get off spouting. Walk into the toy aisle and tell me you don't often see potential collectors buying toys more often than kids with their parents. Odds are the kids are gonna get one toy each, while the collector is gonna snatch up several just for him\herself.
Posted by First-Aid on April 2nd, 2012 @ 11:41pm CDT
DISCHARGE wrote:As much as people try to yell that the kids drive the toy market, collectors play a huge role in it, probably more than the market research people get off spouting. Walk into the toy aisle and tell me you don't often see potential collectors buying toys more often than kids with their parents. Odds are the kids are gonna get one toy each, while the collector is gonna snatch up several just for him\herself.
If that were the case, then Hasbro would have gone after the third party companies a LONG time ago for stealing market share, as profit is more important than intellectual property in many cases. The fact that they haven't done so speaks volumes about how much of the market share collectors have. A second point would be the Generations line: if the collectors contributed so much to the bottome line, this would be a permanent, stand-alone line that would not need to be supported by Prime, movieverse, etc., and Hasbro would build their line around it rather than vice versa...because the collectors want this line more than any other and support it more than the others, but they don't. Note that most of the figures produced for that line have counterparts in the more recent OTHER TF lines. As such, if a kid buys a Generations toy, it is more from either name recognition from a previous recent line, or the figure appeals to them (it's cool, Mom!). Estimates over the last few years for the actual collector's market share have been anywhere between 0.5-3%. I'd love to see some actual figures but I don't know if anyone has ever produced those numbers. But I can say that, as big as we tend to puff ourselves up to be, compared to the childrens market we're rabbit droppings. And that's the simple dollars and cents of it, from a strictly business standpoint. I can accept that. We are the 1%.
Posted by Counterpunch on April 2nd, 2012 @ 11:45pm CDT
First and final warning on the matter.
Posted by Counterpunch on April 2nd, 2012 @ 11:50pm CDT
Look what someone on TFW posted for when you transform that toy properly (Instructions are even wrong):
Posted by DISCHARGE on April 2nd, 2012 @ 11:58pm CDT
in duality for quite a while now. Why because they had plastic to sell and they knew there was a market for it.
They are ingenious for deciding to develop FOC toys and labeling them in the Generations line. Kids will play the video game, want the figures and say "Well, Bruticus was in the Generations line and so is this guy I know nothing about, but he looks cool." Sale made!
In that respect Hasbro knows that collectors are gonna get all upset about the smallest thing. Geez, they could have omitted the body paint and painted the rims yellow and the thing would look x10 better.
Why make a toy where, in your opinion kids will just want it regardless of what it looks like, when the smallest amount of effort can be made to make that extra sale to sell it to discriminating collectors too?