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Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary

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Monday, August 22nd, 2011 2:02AM CDT

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As has been the case for the past two weekends, Canada's Teletoon aired an all new episode of Transformers Prime today. This puts Teletoon three episodes ahead of the Hub, who won't be showing the "new" episode "TMI" until September 10th. Today's new episode is summarized below, spoiler warnings of course.

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This episode departs from the previous two's synthetic energon plot and delves into the prophecy that was first mentioned in the season two trailer that was released last month.

"And it was written in the Covenant of Primus that when the 47 Spheres align a perpetual conflict will culminate upon a world forged from chaos..."

We learn that the planetary alignment mentioned above will focus on Earth and is a mere days away. Both factions are aware of the prophecy, but Megatron is much more dogmatic in his interpretation. We also learn that the Decepticons have been raiding various facilities to construct their Space Bridge 2.0, and only require an energy source.

Agent Fowler notifies our heroes that the Decepticons have initiated another raid to acquire the aforementioned energy source. Ratchet land bridges Prime, Bulkhead, and Acree to the scene. Bumblebee is taking Raf out to race his radio controlled car when he gets the call. Just as he is about to drop Raf off he is spotted by Megatron who is also on his way to the battle. Megatron opens fire and strikes Bumblebee several times. Bumblebee seems to only be stunned, but Raf is not so lucky.

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The Autobots are wrapping up the battle when Megatron arrives. He and Prime have their customary exchange of words, and Bumblebee walks up holding Raf's limb body in his hands. Prime immediately calls for a land bridge and Megatron makes off with the energy generator.

Back at the Autobot base Ratchet is monitoring Raf, but admits his lack of knowledge of human physiology and medicine are keeping him from helping Raf. He does however diagnose him with Dark Energon poisoning from Megatron's blast. Jack suggests they call in his mother who is a nurse, Ratchet reluctantly agrees.

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In the mean time Prime and Bulkhead are infiltrating the Decepticon ship. After dispatching a few drones they reclaim the generator and Prime sends Bulkhead back to base. He's come to the conclusion that he must destroy Megatron and wants a one on one battle. Prime fights his way to the control room of the ship and uses one of the beaten Decepticon drone's communicator to summon Megatron. Megatron however, isn't on the ship. He's off tracking down a mysterious volcano that he's been having visions of. Megatron feels he's been drawn to this volcano to build his new Space Bridge and harvest Dark Energon. He orders his Decepticons to stand down, and bring Prime to the volcano.

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Back at Autobot base Ratchet determines that even though Energon is devastating to humans the only way to fight the Dark Energon that has infected Raf is an infusion of regular Energon. Bumblebee donates some of his own Energon, and the transfusion is a success. Raf awakens and appears to be fine.

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At the volcano Megatron and Prime are set to square off. Prime seems more determined than ever to finally put an end to Megatron. They utter the iconic, "One shall stand, one shall fall" line and the battle begins. Prime quickly gets the better of Megatron and at one point uses the wheels on his leg to do a burn-out across Megatron's face temporarily blinding him. Prime extends his sword and prepares to deliver the death blow, but Megatron captures the blade between his palms and turns the tide.

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Now Megatron has the upper hand as the planetary alignment begins and the volcano starts to erupt. Megatron declares that all this time he was looking for planet Unicron it was here on Earth all along, as the volcano spews out Dark Energon. The episode ends here to be continued.............

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Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1279917)
Posted by Mindmaster on August 22nd, 2011 @ 2:36am CDT
I knew it! Earth really is Unicron! Pro investigation skillz! 8-}
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1279922)
Posted by ShadowTracker on August 22nd, 2011 @ 2:48am CDT
really cool fight!!!
so many possibilities for the next episodes to come!
i am content with this series :APPLAUSE:
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1279952)
Posted by Metroplex79 on August 22nd, 2011 @ 2:46pm CDT
The episode was more epic visually than described here :P

I was definetely on the edge of my seat for this ep.

Dare I say this ep is among TF's best in the past 27 years ????

It hurts to wait another 6 days till Part 2.
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1279956)
Posted by NemesisMonkeySupreme on August 22nd, 2011 @ 2:53pm CDT
I still don't understand the delay of Hasbro showing these on THEIR OWN NETWORK (The Hub). Way to boost ratings by making sure every one watches the episodes on another network or the internet. Hasbro's marketing genius at work, once again… :BANG_HEAD:
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1279963)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 22nd, 2011 @ 3:01pm CDT
My comments:
Sabrblade wrote:It's on YouTube now.



Episode 23 -

:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: ZOMG! ZOMG! It's starting with the season 2 promo trailer prophecy narration!!! Maybe now we'll finally find out what it all means! :grin:

Ratchet's mention of how Optimus was "different"before he was made a Prime is an understatement. Optimus, as Orion Pax, was a young dreamer with aspirations and ideals of his own. Now, he's a walking stoic who, while his spark may be in good nature, is almost completely uninteresting.

Though, Ratchet's comparison of Optimus to Jack is VERY on the mark. :o

The way Megatron is acting in this episode makes me think that this is the beginning of the season 1 finale arc.

Both Megatron and Bumblebee just fly/drive to the battle instead of Bridging themselves there. One question: Why? :?

:shock: Is Raf... still functional?

Ah, wait, yes he is... barely.

Why do I get the suspicious feeling that Raf is going to undergo a sort... "reconstruction" (hint hint) in Ratchet's lab? ;)

It's the mysterious villain and his volcano! But I don't see any horns. So, non-Unicron options are still open.

Then again, maybe it really is Unicron, given Megatron's dialogue mere seconds later. Though, it's also possible that Megs could be mistaken, since he doesn't outright say that this villain is, without a doubt, Unicron. He could just be confusing this villain's face for that of Unicron, what with the similar beards and all.

Arcee is awesome as ever, calming Bee down.

Optimus: "Megatron must be destroyed!" - So much for wanting to reach any good left within in his brother. I dunno, maybe Exiles will provide further look into Megatron's decent into darkness.

The cursed "One shall stand, one shall fall" line is repeated here AGAIN! Come up with more original ultimatum, PLEASE!

While impressive, I sadly find the Prime/Megs battle to be quite unengaging for two reasons. One, I'm more concerned about what's gonna happen to Raf. And two, I'm MUCH more interested in that volcano that's connected to the new villain. I mean, this fight is just delaying the revelation of that volcano's nature. I wanna what its deal is!

I see a potential toy redeco in Megatron's purple glowing state.

Okay, so that volcano is full of Dark Energon. One question: Why? :?

TO BE CONTINUED... yet still a very good episode.
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1279968)
Posted by BeastProwl on August 22nd, 2011 @ 3:06pm CDT
Thank GOD Seibertron is back up and running! That episode made me So sad and happy and giddy and emotional and exited and....
Well, the list is just endless.
Love the show of ratchet's emotions here as well.
As far as optimus being like jack? Yeah, I can picture that.

Is it just me, or does Airachnid sound like a sassy black lady? I mean, I never noticed it before now.
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1279980)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 22nd, 2011 @ 3:22pm CDT
I managed to snap two screenshots of the new villain's face as best I could, given the video quality of the sources.

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Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1279985)
Posted by BeastProwl on August 22nd, 2011 @ 3:28pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:I managed to snap two screenshots of the new villain's face as best I could, given the video quality of the sources.

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Yeah, I paused it to look at him too. He looks like Brawn LOL.
IDK, He's just a very "Domey" bot.
BTW, That bot we saw in the teaser, you don't think that, after megatron goes into the volcano, he comes out as Galvatron, do you? That would be SWEET!
Also, I hope Screamer makes an appearence next episode. I'm suffering from withdrawel....
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1279994)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 22nd, 2011 @ 3:40pm CDT
BeastProwl wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:I managed to snap two screenshots of the new villain's face as best I could, given the video quality of the sources.

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Yeah, I paused it to look at him too. He looks like Brawn LOL.
IDK, He's just a very "Domey" bot.
BTW, That bot we saw in the teaser, you don't think that, after megatron goes into the volcano, he comes out as Galvatron, do you? That would be SWEET!
Also, I hope Screamer makes an appearence next episode. I'm suffering from withdrawel....
The bot in the trailer = the bot in these pictures.

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Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1279996)
Posted by sabrigami on August 22nd, 2011 @ 3:42pm CDT
Wow another Fantastic episode :D The fight between prime and Megatron was really tense and choreographed to a tea. I must also say that I loved Megatron's expressions in this ep. Makes we want to get his toy now too. This is the first time I've actually liked Megatron in any medium, and that's saying something :-?
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1280005)
Posted by BeastProwl on August 22nd, 2011 @ 3:50pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
BeastProwl wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:I managed to snap two screenshots of the new villain's face as best I could, given the video quality of the sources.

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Yeah, I paused it to look at him too. He looks like Brawn LOL.
IDK, He's just a very "Domey" bot.
BTW, That bot we saw in the teaser, you don't think that, after megatron goes into the volcano, he comes out as Galvatron, do you? That would be SWEET!
Also, I hope Screamer makes an appearence next episode. I'm suffering from withdrawel....
The bot in the trailer = the bot in these pictures.

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you have a compelling argument there sir, but as to WHO he is? Scourge, Galvatron? I mean, He's seeing the future, and seeing through Unicron's eyes. Maybe he sees what unicron will make of him? Galvatron would be cool. Long stretch, but what if?
Only time will tell, and who knows, that could be another bot ENTIRELY so....Let's just hope we get to get this treat again next week, with a little starscream sauce on the side, hmm?
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1280012)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 22nd, 2011 @ 3:56pm CDT
BeastProwl wrote:you have a compelling argument there sir, but as to WHO he is? Scourge, Galvatron? I mean, He's seeing the future, and seeing through Unicron's eyes. Maybe he sees what unicron will make of him? Galvatron would be cool. Long stretch, but what if?
Only time will tell, and who knows, that could be another bot ENTIRELY so....Let's just hope we get to get this treat again next week, with a little starscream sauce on the side, hmm?
Nearly everyone's saying that that guy IS Unicron (I don't want it to be, but all signs point to it being him). Megs isn't just "seeing the future", he's also "hear[ing] Unicron's thoughts". They're associating that face with Unicron.
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1280023)
Posted by iaconportland on August 22nd, 2011 @ 4:02pm CDT
That...was...incredible. What a cliffhanger!

To paraphrase DOTM Sentinel Prime: "What Bay destroyed can be rebuilt, but only if we give Orci and Kurtzmann enough room to do their job correctly..."

The number of episodes before Prime finally agrees that Megatron must be destroyed was just enough time to build Prime up as a compassionate but stoic leader who only resorts to pursuing a violent end to this conflict as a last resort.

And what a battle! Back and forth, dramatic, action-packed, everything you want in a fight scene. Quite frankly this was the type of battle that should have ended the live-action series.

Unlike the movies, Orci and Kurtzmann have focused on the real driving force behind the Autobot-Decepticon conflict: Optimus Prime vs. Megatron. The great thing about this show is that each character has been given enough time to develop an interesting side story to that rivalry - the relationship between the 'Bots and the humans, Ratchet's continuing struggle to understand the human race, Starscream's treacherous pursuit of leadership, Arcee's tough exterior being softened by her genuine compassion for Jack and the loss of two of her comrades, I could go on and on. But it's great to see it all come back to Prime vs. Megatron.

Which brings me to the topic of Frank Welker and Peter Cullen absolutely nailing their performances in this episode. Cullen's somber, serious Prime is a lot more enjoyable and gives this Prime a deeper character than G1 Prime. And Welker has taken Megatron to new heights of maniacal evil.

And how about that plot twist at the end! I'm not familiar with any of the Unicron Trilogy or other Japanese versions of the franchise but I'm pretty sure I've never heard of Earth being Unicron's secret identity. I'm anxious to see where they go with this. Where there's Unicron, there has to be Primus, after all...

The show was indeed more visually stunning than anything I can describe with words. The look on Bumblebee's face when he is carrying Raf is heartbreaking, while the visage of Optimus is more steely and cold than in previous episodes, especially when confronted with the reality that he must extinguish Megatron's spark for good...the animation is just incredible from start to finish (esp the fight scene between Megs and Prime...WOW...)

I could go on and on but I'll stop here. This series is fast becoming my favorite version of all time.
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1280050)
Posted by griftimus prime on August 22nd, 2011 @ 4:48pm CDT
and the kid ends up fine.
LAME
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1280068)
Posted by BeastProwl on August 22nd, 2011 @ 5:11pm CDT
griftimus prime wrote:and the kid ends up fine.
LAME

I clicked here from the forums because it said the last post was by griftimus prime. I had to click to see what he spewed out this time. I was surprised. He either watched the episode, or read the whole description, either way, it's a show of interest.....now watch him not respond to this.
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1280086)
Posted by FullMetalGeth on August 22nd, 2011 @ 5:50pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
BeastProwl wrote:you have a compelling argument there sir, but as to WHO he is? Scourge, Galvatron? I mean, He's seeing the future, and seeing through Unicron's eyes. Maybe he sees what unicron will make of him? Galvatron would be cool. Long stretch, but what if?
Only time will tell, and who knows, that could be another bot ENTIRELY so....Let's just hope we get to get this treat again next week, with a little starscream sauce on the side, hmm?
Nearly everyone's saying that that guy IS Unicron (I don't want it to be, but all signs point to it being him). Megs isn't just "seeing the future", he's also "hear[ing] Unicron's thoughts". They're associating that face with Unicron.


1- GREAT episode. ;)^

2- I'm thinking that that is Unicron because I see a hint of orange.
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1280102)
Posted by Michael Alex Kawa on August 22nd, 2011 @ 6:15pm CDT
Saw this last night on YT and all i can say is it is the BOMB :BOOM: .I love it ,it shows how great this show is .Prime was the man....bot in this episode ,he kicks some serious ..well you know .I am glad Raf is ok ,but we don't know what the after effects will be do we . :grin:
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1280107)
Posted by Doubledealer93 on August 22nd, 2011 @ 6:25pm CDT
damn, these episodes just keep getting better and better!!!!! :KREMZEEK: this just makes me want the toys even more =P~
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1280112)
Posted by Kiyza on August 22nd, 2011 @ 6:34pm CDT
Hrm, it definitely seems like this episode is hinting at Unicron being Earth. I'll be slagged if that face isn't his considering the coloration, but it does lack the horns. Part of me just doesn't like the idea of him being Earth, not from a plot perspective, but a character design one. He has a pretty iconic look, even in his planet form. And then there's the matter of a toy being made of Unicron that turns into Earth, which probably wouldn't sit well with a lot of people, myself included.

Perhaps Earth is one of the tainted worlds that were mentioned in the Ultimate Guide? It would explain the Dark Energon at the least...

I'll take it this episode also debunks that fan theory that Raf might be some sort of android or robot. Part of me did think he might have gotten possessed by Unicron or something when they mentioned the Dark Energon, though, or even zombified. But then again, I doubt they'd kill off a human kid, for obvious reasons.

I keep getting the feeling that Prime's going to die in the next episode. Even though it might be a little early in the series for that, it seems like all signs point to it. Well, best to get it done ahead of time. It's bound to happen sooner or later after all.

Like pretty much everyone else, I absolutely loved this episode. It kept me on the edge of my seat, and I'm just begging for more of it at this point.
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1280186)
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on August 22nd, 2011 @ 9:32pm CDT
Now THIS is Transformers as it should be. Epic battles, good foreshadowing, nicely unfolding plot, and characters' actions and decisions that actually MAKE SENSE!

And most of all, kudos to them for keeping the human soldiers out of the fights. I'm glad Orci and Kurtzman realize humans can never take on giant transforming robots head on and hope to win...or survive.

Can't wait for the second part of this!
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1280221)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 22nd, 2011 @ 10:25pm CDT
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:And most of all, kudos to them for keeping the human soldiers out of the fights. I'm glad Orci and Kurtzman realize humans can never take on giant transforming robots head on and hope to win...or survive.
Several humans have defeated Transformers on their own.

Victor Drath and Old Snake/Cobra Commander rendered Rodimus Prime, Ultra Magnus, Springer, and Arcee without their bodies (putting them in weaker human bodies instead).

The G.I. Joe Team killed Bumblebee.

Serpentor killed Dirge.

Circuit Breaker alone disabled many Transformers and completely fried Unicron!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

Meltdown could kill a Transformer with a single (prolonged) touch.

And so on and so forth.
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1280288)
Posted by Sunspot on August 23rd, 2011 @ 3:23am CDT
Best episode since the miniseries.
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1280372)
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on August 23rd, 2011 @ 8:46am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:And most of all, kudos to them for keeping the human soldiers out of the fights. I'm glad Orci and Kurtzman realize humans can never take on giant transforming robots head on and hope to win...or survive.
Several humans have defeated Transformers on their own.

Victor Drath and Old Snake/Cobra Commander rendered Rodimus Prime, Ultra Magnus, Springer, and Arcee without their bodies (putting them in weaker human bodies instead).

The G.I. Joe Team killed Bumblebee.

Serpentor killed Dirge.

Circuit Breaker alone disabled many Transformers and completely fried Unicron!!! :shock: :shock: :shock:

Meltdown could kill a Transformer with a single (prolonged) touch.

And so on and so forth.


Honestly, I don't read TF comics, or comics in general.

But in view of the examples you've shown me, I guess I'll rephrase it this way: There's no way generic human soldiers can defeat a Transformer head on. My real beef is with the way a dinky bunch of tanks and a single squadron of jets can take out an army of TF's in the movies.

I do, however, like how the humans used covert tactics to take down Decepticons in DOTM.
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1280404)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 23rd, 2011 @ 11:40am CDT
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:Honestly, I don't read TF comics, or comics in general.
The first example comes from the G1 cartoon.

another cartoon-only example would be when Lord Chumley successfully bested, captured, and disabled (but kept alive for bargaining) Tracks, Bumblebee, Jazz, Beachcomber, Grapple, Blaster, and Inferno.

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:But in view of the examples you've shown me, I guess I'll rephrase it this way: There's no way generic human soldiers can defeat a Transformer head on. My real beef is with the way a dinky bunch of tanks and a single squadron of jets can take out an army of TF's in the movies.
When the G.I. Joe team took out Bumblebee, they didn't use any special weapons, but standard (of the time) military armaments.

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:I do, however, like how the humans used covert tactics to take down Decepticons in DOTM.
Just goes to show that puny fleshlings can be capable against the bots.
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1280419)
Posted by BeastProwl on August 23rd, 2011 @ 12:06pm CDT
Am I the only one who noticed it? Raf was able to see just fine after the Infection, No Glasses needed.
Would love to see were this goes.
Maybe he got boosted somehow?
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1280454)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 23rd, 2011 @ 1:11pm CDT
BeastProwl wrote:Am I the only one who noticed it? Raf was able to see just fine after the Infection, No Glasses needed.
Would love to see were this goes.
Maybe he got boosted somehow?
Probably just an animation error. Most films do that "first-person eyes open to clear vision" view for dramatic effect, so they probably just momentarily forgot about his impaired vision.
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1280569)
Posted by JetOptimus23 on August 23rd, 2011 @ 5:30pm CDT
Wow. Prime is fighting its way into my favorite slot...a tie between it and Animated.

That fight was epic. Unicron is most likely the villain...or one of his heralds.

Saber, has any TF cartoon put a human in life threatening danger before? No, not comics. Because I was surprised they did that. And unlike if it was...Kicker...i actually cared about Raf...huh. Great episode, greater series...
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1280621)
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on August 23rd, 2011 @ 8:06pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:I do, however, like how the humans used covert tactics to take down Decepticons in DOTM.
Just goes to show that puny fleshlings can be capable against the bots.


Sabrblade, don't take this the wrong way, but I have no intention in starting an argument, and I respect your views on the matter. Fact of the matter is, I don't consider myself such a fan of TF to the point where I read every comic or remember what happened in every single episode of G1, BW, BM, TFA or even the current TFP episodes. I'm just a casual collector at best.

But I digress.

As I haven't read the comics and don't recall these episodes of G1 you mentioned, I can't say how they were handled. But as long as they used appropriately sophisticated technology, covert tactics and strategies [targeting weak points like in DOTM] to bring down the TF's in a believable manner, then I have absolutely no problem with it. In other words, using their intelligence instead of throwing their biggest bombs into the AO like in a Godzilla movie.

What I meant by "head on" is a small group of humans shooting it out with TF's using "good ole" assault rifles, grenade launchers and artillery, and somehow taking down an army of battle-hardened TF's.

To make matters doubly clear, I'm not against the idea of human defeating TF's per se...as long as it's done in a believable way. It was nicely done in DOTM, and I acknowledged it, as you yourself quoted it. And if it was done nicely in G1 and in the comics, then I'm fine with that too. I just didn't like the whole "bombing raid, high-heat sabot round, tiny bunch of tanks and jets" idea in the movies, but tried to avoid making it too obvious in my posts lest I start offending Bayverse fans.

Bay rectified the problem in DOTM, and that's the end of the matter AFAIC.
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1280683)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 23rd, 2011 @ 11:24pm CDT
JetOptimus23 wrote:Saber, has any TF cartoon put a human in life threatening danger before? No, not comics. Because I was surprised they did that. And unlike if it was...Kicker...i actually cared about Raf...huh. Great episode, greater series...
Erm, let's see... G1 Spike was critically wounded and sent to the ER in the G1 episode "Autobot Spike".

Animated season 3 had Sari nearly kill herself after she went berserk in parts 2 and 3 of "TransWarped". She was instead rendered comatose till the end of the third part.

...and that's all I can think of for now. I may need to sleep on it and don't feel like checking the TFWiki right now. (:|

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:As I haven't read the comics and don't recall these episodes of G1 you mentioned, I can't say how they were handled. But as long as they used appropriately sophisticated technology, covert tactics and strategies [targeting weak points like in DOTM] to bring down the TF's in a believable manner, then I have absolutely no problem with it. In other words, using their intelligence instead of throwing their biggest bombs into the AO like in a Godzilla movie.
Some/most of them were like that. Though, some were just using the old "go attack them and try to kill them" method, and somehow ended up the victor.

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:What I meant by "head on" is a small group of humans shooting it out with TF's using "good ole" assault rifles, grenade launchers and artillery, and somehow taking down an army of battle-hardened TF's.
I wouldn't exactly say that these example quite match that criteria, so we're safe. ;)

Though, in the case of the Joes killing Bumblebee with mere tanks and such, let's be fair, it was just little ol' Bumblebee. :P

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:To make matters doubly clear, I'm not against the idea of human defeating TF's per se...as long as it's done in a believable way. It was nicely done in DOTM, and I acknowledged it, as you yourself quoted it. And if it was done nicely in G1 and in the comics, then I'm fine with that too. I just didn't like the whole "bombing raid, high-heat sabot round, tiny bunch of tanks and jets" idea in the movies, but tried to avoid making it too obvious in my posts lest I start offending Bayverse fans.

Bay rectified the problem in DOTM, and that's the end of the matter AFAIC.
Just out of curiosity, what do you think of super-powered humans taking them down? :-B
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1280697)
Posted by SKYWARPED_128 on August 24th, 2011 @ 12:03am CDT
SKYWARPED_128 wrote:What I meant by "head on" is a small group of humans shooting it out with TF's using "good ole" assault rifles, grenade launchers and artillery, and somehow taking down an army of battle-hardened TF's.
I wouldn't exactly say that these example quite match that criteria, so we're safe. ;)

Though, in the case of the Joes killing Bumblebee with mere tanks and such, let's be fair, it was just little ol' Bumblebee. :P

Heheh, that's true. G1 Bee isn't exactly the super-slick one-bot-army he is in the Movieverse.

SKYWARPED_128 wrote:To make matters doubly clear, I'm not against the idea of human defeating TF's per se...as long as it's done in a believable way. It was nicely done in DOTM, and I acknowledged it, as you yourself quoted it. And if it was done nicely in G1 and in the comics, then I'm fine with that too. I just didn't like the whole "bombing raid, high-heat sabot round, tiny bunch of tanks and jets" idea in the movies, but tried to avoid making it too obvious in my posts lest I start offending Bayverse fans.

Bay rectified the problem in DOTM, and that's the end of the matter AFAIC.
Just out of curiosity, what do you think of super-powered humans taking them down? :-B[/quote]

I'm perfectly okay with that. It just has to make sense and be within the realm of logic. For instance, having Wolverine slicing 'Con limbs with his adamantium claws is perfectly acceptable, as the metal is supposed to be of extra-terrestrial origin [I'm going with the movie continuity here--dunno if it's the same in the comics], and is supposedly the toughest metal known to man.

Frankly, I'm not all that hard to please as a viewer. Just a little bit of explanation and creativity is all I ask. I mean, even the director of Ironman 2 admitted that whole "discovering a new element" thing was a load of horse-crap, but it was fine with me, because it made sense in the context of the movie's universe. As long as I can suspend my disbelief and wrap my mind around it, I'm a happy camper.
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1281061)
Posted by Sodan-1 on August 24th, 2011 @ 8:10pm CDT
BeastProwl wrote:Is it just me, or does Airachnid sound like a sassy black lady? I mean, I never noticed it before now.


Good ear. It's Gina Torres, best known (in my opinion) as Zoe from sci-fi series Firefly and its movie Serenity.

griftimus prime wrote:and the kid ends up fine.
LAME


I second this notion.

BeastProwl wrote:Am I the only one who noticed it? Raf was able to see just fine after the Infection, No Glasses needed.


Well spotted, sir.

I thought this was a brilliant episode, but then I'm a sucker for episodes that focus on the meta-plot instead of Jack looking to get laid or whatever. I really hope Earth isn't actually Unicron. If it is then we're not going to see him in his full glory. I doubt they're going to have our world turn into a giant evil mechanical deity. Hopefully it's just his head or spark that's buried under the volcano or the like.

Worst part of the episode??? Rolling out the old "one shall stand..." line again. It's been abused to buggery for a few years now and I'm thoroughly sick of it.
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1282400)
Posted by El Duque on August 27th, 2011 @ 10:02am CDT
The title of Transformers Prime episode #23, which aired last weekend on Canada's Teletoon, has been revealed and it has received a US air date. Zap2it has listed the episode listed as "One Shall Fall" with a September 24th air date.

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Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1282405)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 27th, 2011 @ 10:12am CDT
"One Shall Fall"... and yet, no one does. :roll:

While it is a little better to hear just the second half of that overused line, it's still overused! #-o
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1282407)
Posted by BeastProwl on August 27th, 2011 @ 10:18am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:"One Shall Fall"... and yet, no one does. :roll:

While it is a little better to hear just the second half of that overused line, it's still overused! #-o

THIS
Also, wouldn't it make MORE Sense if this one was called "One shall stand" and the NEXT one was Called "One shall Fall"?
Just some food for thought. I think they need new lines...though in the fifth episode, or fouth, can't remember exactly wich, when Ratchet Say, "Than by all means Optimus, Light our Darkest Hour", Gave me chills, for two reasons.
1. It was used APPROPRIATELY, not just because its a famous line
2. It sounded like he was heralding something that happended in an older time...
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1282416)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 27th, 2011 @ 10:41am CDT
BeastProwl wrote:Also, wouldn't it make MORE Sense if this one was called "One shall stand" and the NEXT one was Called "One shall Fall"?
Depends on what goes on in the next episode. Like ,if someone actually DOES fall, then it would fit better. Still, going that route would just make this line even MORE overused. ;)


BeastProwl wrote:Just some food for thought. I think they need new lines...though in the fifth episode, or fouth, can't remember exactly wich, when Ratchet Say, "Than by all means Optimus, Light our Darkest Hour", Gave me chills, for two reasons.
1. It was used APPROPRIATELY, not just because its a famous line
2. It sounded like he was heralding something that happended in an older time...
EXACTLY! Ratchet's use of that line in that context was perfect! It wasn't forced, it wasn't one that has been run into the ground, and it wasn't used in the same way as it was originally. It was a unique and creative take of a classic line that flowed smoothly and wasn't shoved down our throats.

"One shall stand, one shall fall" needs to take a break. If it can be retired, great. Let it have an honorable end. But it needs to make room for more creativity. Why, I'd even not mind if they changed it to the Japanese version of that line ("Either I die or you die") instead.
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1282420)
Posted by Tigertrack on August 27th, 2011 @ 11:05am CDT
Shame, I wanted to see what all the hubbub was about, but the video was removed due to HASBRO crackin' the whip.

SOunds fun. Guess I'll wait until the 24th or later.
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1282422)
Posted by Zetatron on August 27th, 2011 @ 11:08am CDT
Every time a bot named Optimus reads from the Covenant of Primus, something monumentally bad happens. Would someone get that book away from him already?!
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1282473)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 27th, 2011 @ 2:36pm CDT
tigertracks 24 wrote:Shame, I wanted to see what all the hubbub was about, but the video was removed due to HASBRO crackin' the whip.

SOunds fun. Guess I'll wait until the 24th or later.
This person has episodes 13-23 uploaded still.


Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1282492)
Posted by Tigertrack on August 27th, 2011 @ 4:08pm CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
tigertracks 24 wrote:Shame, I wanted to see what all the hubbub was about, but the video was removed due to HASBRO crackin' the whip.

SOunds fun. Guess I'll wait until the 24th or later.
This person has episodes 13-23 uploaded still.




THanks for finding those.
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1282531)
Posted by BeastProwl on August 27th, 2011 @ 5:34pm CDT
I'm getting all Giddy, Episode 24 is so close, I can taste it!
Yet, at the same time, so VERY Far off!
:-(
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1282561)
Posted by LadyBug on August 27th, 2011 @ 7:41pm CDT
BeastProwl wrote:I'm getting all Giddy, Episode 24 is so close, I can taste it!
Yet, at the same time, so VERY Far off!
:-(


I know. I've been dying for this episode all week. I just can't wait! I just hope we don't get another cliffhanger.
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1282649)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 27th, 2011 @ 11:30pm CDT
LadyBug wrote:
BeastProwl wrote:I'm getting all Giddy, Episode 24 is so close, I can taste it!
Yet, at the same time, so VERY Far off!
:-(


I know. I've been dying for this episode all week. I just can't wait! I just hope we don't get another cliffhanger.
I have a suspicious feeling that 24 and 25 will both be cliffhangers to lead up to the conclusion in 26. Or even 26 might end on a (milder) cliffhanger to better kick off the events of season 2's first episode, 27.
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1282653)
Posted by frontline77 on August 27th, 2011 @ 11:38pm CDT
worst.
cliffhanger.
ever.
MOAR!!!
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1282773)
Posted by LadyBug on August 28th, 2011 @ 8:42am CDT
Sabrblade wrote:
LadyBug wrote:
BeastProwl wrote:I'm getting all Giddy, Episode 24 is so close, I can taste it!
Yet, at the same time, so VERY Far off!
:-(


I know. I've been dying for this episode all week. I just can't wait! I just hope we don't get another cliffhanger.
I have a suspicious feeling that 24 and 25 will both be cliffhangers to lead up to the conclusion in 26. Or even 26 might end on a (milder) cliffhanger to better kick off the events of season 2's first episode, 27.


Yeah, I have a feeling too.... they seem to be turning Prime into an anime series because of all these cliffhangers suddenly.
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1282837)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 28th, 2011 @ 12:19pm CDT
LadyBug wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
LadyBug wrote:
BeastProwl wrote:I'm getting all Giddy, Episode 24 is so close, I can taste it!
Yet, at the same time, so VERY Far off!
:-(


I know. I've been dying for this episode all week. I just can't wait! I just hope we don't get another cliffhanger.
I have a suspicious feeling that 24 and 25 will both be cliffhangers to lead up to the conclusion in 26. Or even 26 might end on a (milder) cliffhanger to better kick off the events of season 2's first episode, 27.


Yeah, I have a feeling too.... they seem to be turning Prime into an anime series because of all these cliffhangers suddenly.
What relation do cliffhangers have with anime?

The Headmasters, Masterforce, Victory, Zone, Beast Wars II, Beast Wars Neo, RiD, Armada, Energon, and Cybertron were all anime, and yet they didn't have that many cliffhangers (can't say much for BWII and Neo, since I haven't much of them yet).

Plus, unless Hasbro Studios suddenly stops making Prime and gives the reigns to someone like Toei or TMS, they cannot just "turn" Prime into an anime.
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1282930)
Posted by Bouncy X on August 28th, 2011 @ 4:34pm CDT
canada may not be ahead of america anymore...

today was supposed to be a new episode, the teletoon commercial even said as much but they ended up airing a rerun. i'm wondering if they're purposely gonna wait and try and even the schedual out with america so we're more in synch. it sucks if thats the case since the last was "to be continued" but yeah, how annoying. lol
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1282938)
Posted by LadyBug on August 28th, 2011 @ 4:55pm CDT
Oh please don't tell me that. I've been looking forward to episode 24 all week... ;_;
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1282946)
Posted by Mindmaster on August 28th, 2011 @ 5:13pm CDT
El Duque wrote:The title of Transformers Prime episode #23, which aired last weekend on Canada's Teletoon, has been revealed and it has received a US air date. Zap2it has listed the episode listed as "One Shall Fall" with a September 24th air date.

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The Megatrons... :lol:
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1283086)
Posted by Rodimus2006 on August 28th, 2011 @ 11:03pm CDT
I like how they are borrowing from other series such as Beast Wars Nemesis prt. 1 & 2 reciting the covenenant.

What I am curious the most about is what is Megatron trying to do and what does he mean it was hear all along.

If it is Unicron how can Unicron be hidden on the Earth, Unicron is the size of a planet.

When I look closer at the picture of the Glowing Purple Eyes it is hard to tell if is Galvatron or Unicron himself.

That would mean or could mean that if it is Galvatron then Galvatron would be a seperated being not an upgraded Megatron not unless he somehow upgrades later.

From what I am getting Megatron has been seeing the future somehow.

I hate that this Optimus Prime can not fight good like with previous Primes could the most hardcore of all the Primes is ROTF Movie-verse Prime.

I hope sense they mentioned certain characters they will be in Prime later on such as Perceptor and The Fallen were both mentioned.

Cant wait for Season 2 this November.
Re: Transformers Prime Episode 23 Summary (1283157)
Posted by Sabrblade on August 29th, 2011 @ 6:45am CDT
Rodimus2006 wrote:I like how they are borrowing from other series such as Beast Wars Nemesis prt. 1 & 2 reciting the covenenant.
The Covenant was already reintroduced in Exodus.

Rodimus2006 wrote:What I am curious the most about is what is Megatron trying to do and what does he mean it was hear all along.

If it is Unicron how can Unicron be hidden on the Earth, Unicron is the size of a planet.
some are thinking that Earth is Unicron. I myself don't want to think this until further info comes out.

Rodimus2006 wrote:When I look closer at the picture of the Glowing Purple Eyes it is hard to tell if is Galvatron or Unicron himself.

That would mean or could mean that if it is Galvatron then Galvatron would be a seperated being not an upgraded Megatron not unless he somehow upgrades later.
All signs point to it being Unicron.

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Rodimus2006 wrote:From what I am getting Megatron has been seeing the future somehow.

I hate that this Optimus Prime can not fight good like with previous Primes could the most hardcore of all the Primes is ROTF Movie-verse Prime.
WATCH the episode. Optimus is VERY hardcore in this episode.

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