Transformers Prime Deluxe Bumblebee and Cliffjumper In-Hand
Tuesday, October 18th, 2011 12:36AM CDT
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TransformersCustomtoys.com has posted some in-hand images and videos of the Transformers Prime Deluxes Bumblebee and Cliffjumper. The videos aren't reviews, rather just short clips that further show off the figures. Images and videos embedded below.
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Re: Transformers Prime Deluxe Bumblebee and Cliffjumper In-Hand (1301932)
Posted by Rated X on October 18th, 2011 @ 12:41am CDT
Posted by Rated X on October 18th, 2011 @ 12:41am CDT
Mix movie and animated and you have TF Prime. Im staying away from these things.
Re: Transformers Prime Deluxe Bumblebee and Cliffjumper In-Hand (1301936)
Posted by dougpassat on October 18th, 2011 @ 12:50am CDT
Posted by dougpassat on October 18th, 2011 @ 12:50am CDT
But Prime figures aren't coming out til Feb 2012 as per the NYCC 2011 Prime Panel
Re: Transformers Prime Deluxe Bumblebee and Cliffjumper In-Hand (1301937)
Posted by gavinfuzzy on October 18th, 2011 @ 1:06am CDT
Yeah they aren't.
Posted by gavinfuzzy on October 18th, 2011 @ 1:06am CDT
dougpassat wrote:But Prime figures aren't coming out til Feb 2012 as per the NYCC 2011 Prime Panel
Yeah they aren't.
Re: Transformers Prime Deluxe Bumblebee and Cliffjumper In-Hand (1301939)
Posted by G1 Legacy on October 18th, 2011 @ 1:32am CDT
Agreed, and I take no pleasure in saying this but I think we're rapidly approaching a singularity where it will be adversarial between Transformer fans born before 1990 and fans born after 1990 going at each other on subjects like this (give or take 5 years in that window). I know that sounds a little out there but every new iteration of the brand that comes out lateley results in Generation 1 dying a little bit more. And the people that should be saying something about it are staying quite as the money rolls in (attention Peter Cullen for example). I don't know...I'm sure many of you twenty somethings out there will no doubt blow this off as the mindless ramblings of an old "Geewunner" but as I've said before and will continue to say, you dang kids wouldn't have your Bayformers or your Animated or your PRIME if it wasn't for the cliche' 80's silliness of Generation 1. I had two negative experiences this week with this hobby that I'm SO passionate about...
-The TF:Prime cliffhanger finale...Unicron clones on earth made of stone....uh yeah, the writers were "stoned" all right.
-And just today when I purchased one of those DOTM mech tech Human Alliance DragStrip figures...the human race car driver (clearly based on Augy from a classic G1 episode) is transluscent and is clearly intended to be a hologram pilot, is described as an actual human counterpart on the cardback...a Decepticon openly welcoming a human counterpart??? Megatron bowing to the Fallen....Devastator with testicles...You kids today wouldn't recognize Megatron even if you bumped into his fusion canon! To quote Mugatu in Zoolander "I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!!!"
VECTOR SIGMA!
Posted by G1 Legacy on October 18th, 2011 @ 1:32am CDT
Mix movie and animated and you have TF Prime. Im staying away from these things.
Agreed, and I take no pleasure in saying this but I think we're rapidly approaching a singularity where it will be adversarial between Transformer fans born before 1990 and fans born after 1990 going at each other on subjects like this (give or take 5 years in that window). I know that sounds a little out there but every new iteration of the brand that comes out lateley results in Generation 1 dying a little bit more. And the people that should be saying something about it are staying quite as the money rolls in (attention Peter Cullen for example). I don't know...I'm sure many of you twenty somethings out there will no doubt blow this off as the mindless ramblings of an old "Geewunner" but as I've said before and will continue to say, you dang kids wouldn't have your Bayformers or your Animated or your PRIME if it wasn't for the cliche' 80's silliness of Generation 1. I had two negative experiences this week with this hobby that I'm SO passionate about...-The TF:Prime cliffhanger finale...Unicron clones on earth made of stone....uh yeah, the writers were "stoned" all right.
-And just today when I purchased one of those DOTM mech tech Human Alliance DragStrip figures...the human race car driver (clearly based on Augy from a classic G1 episode) is transluscent and is clearly intended to be a hologram pilot, is described as an actual human counterpart on the cardback...a Decepticon openly welcoming a human counterpart??? Megatron bowing to the Fallen....Devastator with testicles...You kids today wouldn't recognize Megatron even if you bumped into his fusion canon! To quote Mugatu in Zoolander "I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!!!"
VECTOR SIGMA!
Re: Transformers Prime Deluxe Bumblebee and Cliffjumper In-Hand (1301940)
Posted by Megatron Wolf on October 18th, 2011 @ 1:32am CDT
Posted by Megatron Wolf on October 18th, 2011 @ 1:32am CDT
its good to see cliffjumper get his own unique mold for once, to bad it sucks. Take the worst robot aspects from animated and bayformers mix em together and you have TF:Prime.
Re: Transformers Prime Deluxe Bumblebee and Cliffjumper In-Hand (1301942)
Posted by gavinfuzzy on October 18th, 2011 @ 1:41am CDT
Well then again if no one liked the 2007 movie, hasbro would probably shut down the Tf brand, and you wont get your classics 2.0 and 3.0. I dont see your point. Things have to evolve for people to continue to buy them, and continue their interest in them. You wouldn't want to using a phone the size of a brick too right? Similarly for Tfs, they has to break free of the G1 era. Tf evolved. Thats when you have BW, RID, Unicron trilogy, and Movie-verse. Like it or not, tfs would continue to change, like everything else in the world.
TFs are now primarily targeted at kids, that's why its gimmick-heavy. If you don't like a particular series, don't buy it. But you would be missing out on the making of history for TFs. Yeah, some series were great, others were really bad, but TFs would keep evolving in order for them to stay alive
Posted by gavinfuzzy on October 18th, 2011 @ 1:41am CDT
G1 Legacy wrote:Mix movie and animated and you have TF Prime. Im staying away from these things.
-The TF:Prime cliffhanger finale...Unicron clones on earth made of stone....uh yeah, the writers were "stoned" all right.
-And just today when I purchased one of those DOTM mech tech Human Alliance DragStrip figures...the human race car driver (clearly based on Augy from a classic G1 episode) is transluscent and is clearly intended to be a hologram pilot, is described as an actual human counterpart on the cardback...a Decepticon openly welcoming a human counterpart??? Megatron bowing to the Fallen....Devastator with testicles...You kids today wouldn't recognize Megatron even if you bumped into his fusion canon! To quote Mugatu in Zoolander "I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!!!"
VECTOR SIGMA!
Well then again if no one liked the 2007 movie, hasbro would probably shut down the Tf brand, and you wont get your classics 2.0 and 3.0. I dont see your point. Things have to evolve for people to continue to buy them, and continue their interest in them. You wouldn't want to using a phone the size of a brick too right? Similarly for Tfs, they has to break free of the G1 era. Tf evolved. Thats when you have BW, RID, Unicron trilogy, and Movie-verse. Like it or not, tfs would continue to change, like everything else in the world.
TFs are now primarily targeted at kids, that's why its gimmick-heavy. If you don't like a particular series, don't buy it. But you would be missing out on the making of history for TFs. Yeah, some series were great, others were really bad, but TFs would keep evolving in order for them to stay alive
Re: Transformers Prime Deluxe Bumblebee and Cliffjumper In-Hand (1301946)
Posted by G1 Legacy on October 18th, 2011 @ 1:55am CDT
Posted by G1 Legacy on October 18th, 2011 @ 1:55am CDT
I agree with what your saying in theory, yes the brand does need to adapt with changing times but for Primus sake, do you really think that this task has been executed to the best of it's potential in the past decade???? The spirit of G1, the honor of Optimus morals, the vulnerability of Bumblebee, Megatrons supreme arrogance, Galvatrons bat-sh*& crazy antics after the death of Unicron...for example ten minutes into ROTF Optimus Prime executes an unarmed opponent at point blank range that has been rendered inoperative for all intents and purposes just because of the potential treat....call me naive but the Optimus Prime I grew up with NEVER would have done that. And that recognition of the importance of life, even enemy life is the essence and magic of the original franchise. Now its all, action, special effects and sex appeal (with a hefty dose of bad writing). I don't wanna raise my kids with any of the current versions out there, and yes I know its a childrens contemporary market....all the more reason to stay true to the original. At the risk of repeating myself again, I'll sum up by saying it kills me that we live in a day and age for the potential of such an epic G1 re-boot and it seems like NO ONE is stepping up to the challenge. :/
I know this has sounded negative, I'm just venting LOL
I know this has sounded negative, I'm just venting LOL
Re: Transformers Prime Deluxe Bumblebee and Cliffjumper In-Hand (1301948)
Posted by philtron3030 on October 18th, 2011 @ 1:57am CDT
Posted by philtron3030 on October 18th, 2011 @ 1:57am CDT
i think the prime figures look sweet, moar for me.
Re: Transformers Prime Deluxe Bumblebee and Cliffjumper In-Hand (1301950)
Posted by kookookajew on October 18th, 2011 @ 2:01am CDT
Posted by kookookajew on October 18th, 2011 @ 2:01am CDT
oh .... holy .... holy sh*t..
Cliffjumpers Vehicle mode looks amazing.
That headsculpt is amazing..
Robot mode and (whats apparent) of the transformation looks great..
and the hand swapping for the cannons is such a nice looking gimic ...
I'll be buying the regular AND the zombie version.
...... Oh .... and bumblebee looks great too ... but Im not really so stoked about the figure because its just a cartoony version of movie verse-bee... I'll buy the NYCC two pack and the regular one.
Cliffjumpers Vehicle mode looks amazing.
That headsculpt is amazing..
Robot mode and (whats apparent) of the transformation looks great..
and the hand swapping for the cannons is such a nice looking gimic ...
I'll be buying the regular AND the zombie version.
...... Oh .... and bumblebee looks great too ... but Im not really so stoked about the figure because its just a cartoony version of movie verse-bee... I'll buy the NYCC two pack and the regular one.
Re: Transformers Prime Deluxe Bumblebee and Cliffjumper In-Hand (1301951)
Posted by gavinfuzzy on October 18th, 2011 @ 2:02am CDT
Hasbro would do anything to earn money, and the over-dramatic action sequences from the live-action movie allowed DOTM to be the 6th(?) top grossing movie of all time. Plus it allowed them to sell tons of DOTM figs. With all that, i doubt we can expect a G1 reboot soon. Take Prime as a G1 reboot. It could be possible, if you look at it with an open mind. IMO its the best TF cartoon since G1
Posted by gavinfuzzy on October 18th, 2011 @ 2:02am CDT
G1 Legacy wrote:I agree with what your saying in theory, yes the brand does need to adapt with changing times but for Primus sake, do you really think that this task has been executed to the best of it's potential in the past decade???? The spirit of G1, the honor of Optimus morals, the vulnerability of Bumblebee, Megatrons supreme arrogance, Galvatrons bat-sh*& crazy antics after the death of Unicron...for example ten minutes into ROTF Optimus Prime executes an unarmed opponent at point blank range that has been rendered inoperative for all intents and purposes just because of the potential treat....call me naive but the Optimus Prime I grew up with NEVER would have done that. And that recognition of the importance of life, even enemy life is the essence and magic of the original franchise. Now its all, action, special effects and sex appeal (with a hefty dose of bad writing). I don't wanna raise my kids with any of the current versions out there, and yes I know its a childrens contemporary market....all the more reason to stay true to the original. At the risk of repeating myself again, I'll sum up by saying it kills me that we live in a day and age for the potential of such an epic G1 re-boot and it seems like NO ONE is stepping up to the challenge. :/
I know this has sounded negative, I'm just venting LOL
Hasbro would do anything to earn money, and the over-dramatic action sequences from the live-action movie allowed DOTM to be the 6th(?) top grossing movie of all time. Plus it allowed them to sell tons of DOTM figs. With all that, i doubt we can expect a G1 reboot soon. Take Prime as a G1 reboot. It could be possible, if you look at it with an open mind. IMO its the best TF cartoon since G1
Re: Transformers Prime Deluxe Bumblebee and Cliffjumper In-Hand (1301953)
Posted by G1 Legacy on October 18th, 2011 @ 2:05am CDT
Posted by G1 Legacy on October 18th, 2011 @ 2:05am CDT
@ philtron3030....LOL, cool I'll mail you all the ones in my area. LOL
*If you'll return the favor with Generations 3.0
*If you'll return the favor with Generations 3.0
Re: Transformers Prime Deluxe Bumblebee and Cliffjumper In-Hand (1301955)
Posted by Hal7300 on October 18th, 2011 @ 2:16am CDT
Posted by Hal7300 on October 18th, 2011 @ 2:16am CDT
G1 Legacy wrote:Agreed, and I take no pleasure in saying this but I think we're rapidly approaching a singularity where it will be adversarial between Transformer fans born before 1990 and fans born after 1990 going at each other on subjects like this...
Re: Transformers Prime Deluxe Bumblebee and Cliffjumper In-Hand (1301956)
Posted by G1 Legacy on October 18th, 2011 @ 2:16am CDT
Posted by G1 Legacy on October 18th, 2011 @ 2:16am CDT
@ Gavinfuzzy....agreed. I wish we had "like" buttons on here like with facebook. LOL All I'll say is it's scary to me that the number one movie of all time is DOTM. Talk about holding a mirror up to society (I'm not sure where it's actual global ranking in as of today, but I know it's done gangbusters). I'll be raising my kids on G1 cartoons for the forseeable future but when they get old enough to wander on their own we'll openly discuss the other options out there 
Hahahaha And as for the potential for a G1 reboot being unlikley...all I'll say is there are plenty of people like me out there and also our generation is gradually coming into power in the entertainment industry...I predict WE WILL see a G1 reboot but it's still gonna be a decade or so away. I just hope I live long enough to see it. I mean look at the batman franchise for example...in my opinion it took 4 movies before Batman Begins captured a true modern take on Bob Kanes original Batman (uh oh, whay do I suspect that I just opened a "fanboy" can of worms with that one). LOL
Hahahaha And as for the potential for a G1 reboot being unlikley...all I'll say is there are plenty of people like me out there and also our generation is gradually coming into power in the entertainment industry...I predict WE WILL see a G1 reboot but it's still gonna be a decade or so away. I just hope I live long enough to see it. I mean look at the batman franchise for example...in my opinion it took 4 movies before Batman Begins captured a true modern take on Bob Kanes original Batman (uh oh, whay do I suspect that I just opened a "fanboy" can of worms with that one). LOL
Re: Transformers Prime Deluxe Bumblebee and Cliffjumper In-Hand (1301957)
Posted by G1 Legacy on October 18th, 2011 @ 2:26am CDT
Posted by G1 Legacy on October 18th, 2011 @ 2:26am CDT
@ HAL7300_
No worries, the HAL series computers have always been perplexed by human behavior...it's not your fault, now be a good computer and go open the pod bay doors.
One of my all time favorite cinema characters!
No worries, the HAL series computers have always been perplexed by human behavior...it's not your fault, now be a good computer and go open the pod bay doors.
One of my all time favorite cinema characters!
Re: Transformers Prime Deluxe Bumblebee and Cliffjumper In-Hand (1301958)
Posted by Autobot032 on October 18th, 2011 @ 2:30am CDT
Posted by Autobot032 on October 18th, 2011 @ 2:30am CDT
What no one seems to get is that there is no reason to polarize and fight amongst ourselves.
If you love G1, support it.
If you love the Bayverse, support it.
How hard is it to love what you have, extoll it's virtues and not offend someone? You'd be amazed at what could and would be accomplished if we did just that.
If you love G1, support it.
If you love the Bayverse, support it.
How hard is it to love what you have, extoll it's virtues and not offend someone? You'd be amazed at what could and would be accomplished if we did just that.
Re: Transformers Prime Deluxe Bumblebee and Cliffjumper In-Hand (1301960)
Posted by G1 Legacy on October 18th, 2011 @ 2:34am CDT
Posted by G1 Legacy on October 18th, 2011 @ 2:34am CDT
Why can't we all just get along! Afterall we're all Transfans! Rodney King in tha house.
Re: Transformers Prime Deluxe Bumblebee and Cliffjumper In-Hand (1301964)
Posted by Autobot032 on October 18th, 2011 @ 2:53am CDT
You're exactly the type I'm talking about. This post of your's mocks what I have to say, with no respect given. This is sarcasm and you know it.
Other questionable posts of your's:
I "get" the joke, but Hal may take offense to it, because your smiley face is basically you laughing plus the overall condescending tone of your post.
Or in other words: "DURR HURR I DUN LIKE 'EM. YUS KIN HAV 'EM DERPINGTON!"
Can't have a reasonable or civil conversation when you act like that. Love it, hate it, who cares? Bayverse has revitalized the entire franchise, opened new doors, brought in new generations of fans and made more money in the last four years than has been made in most, if not all of TF history. That's all they care about and will continue to care about.
Learn this now, so you're not surprised and disappointed later.
Posted by Autobot032 on October 18th, 2011 @ 2:53am CDT
G1 Legacy wrote:Why can't we all just get along! Afterall we're all Transfans! Rodney King in tha house.
You're exactly the type I'm talking about. This post of your's mocks what I have to say, with no respect given. This is sarcasm and you know it.
Other questionable posts of your's:
G1 Legacy wrote:@ HAL7300_
No worries, the HAL series computers have always been perplexed by human behavior...it's not your fault, now be a good computer and go open the pod bay doors.
I "get" the joke, but Hal may take offense to it, because your smiley face is basically you laughing plus the overall condescending tone of your post.
G1 Legacy wrote:@ philtron3030....LOL, cool I'll mail you all the ones in my area. LOL
Or in other words: "DURR HURR I DUN LIKE 'EM. YUS KIN HAV 'EM DERPINGTON!"
Can't have a reasonable or civil conversation when you act like that. Love it, hate it, who cares? Bayverse has revitalized the entire franchise, opened new doors, brought in new generations of fans and made more money in the last four years than has been made in most, if not all of TF history. That's all they care about and will continue to care about.
Learn this now, so you're not surprised and disappointed later.
Re: Transformers Prime Deluxe Bumblebee and Cliffjumper In-Hand (1301967)
Posted by Blurrz on October 18th, 2011 @ 2:56am CDT
Posted by Blurrz on October 18th, 2011 @ 2:56am CDT
This topic is about Transformers: Prime Bumblebee and Cliffjumper. If one wishes to continue throwing punches in this thread, they will receive a warning.
Re: Transformers Prime Deluxe Bumblebee and Cliffjumper In-Hand (1301970)
Posted by Autobot032 on October 18th, 2011 @ 3:06am CDT
First Editions come out in November/December.
They include:
Arcee
Bumblebee
Starscream
Optimus Prime/Megatron 2-Pack with Jack, Miko and Raf figurines.
All Deluxe Class.
The rest of the line goes on sale February/March 2012.
The figures are already produced, just a matter of getting them out.
Posted by Autobot032 on October 18th, 2011 @ 3:06am CDT
dougpassat wrote:But Prime figures aren't coming out til Feb 2012 as per the NYCC 2011 Prime Panel
First Editions come out in November/December.
They include:
Arcee
Bumblebee
Starscream
Optimus Prime/Megatron 2-Pack with Jack, Miko and Raf figurines.
All Deluxe Class.
The rest of the line goes on sale February/March 2012.
The figures are already produced, just a matter of getting them out.
Re: Transformers Prime Deluxe Bumblebee and Cliffjumper In-Hand (1301973)
Posted by G1 Legacy on October 18th, 2011 @ 3:20am CDT
Posted by G1 Legacy on October 18th, 2011 @ 3:20am CDT
No punches here. I've only jokingly replied to comments that were replies to me based on my original reply to Rated-X. Again I've only replied to others for the sake of conversation. If it came across as passive aggressive I apologize to those who percieved it that way. As with texting it's easy to misinterpret one's tone in blogs sometimes and I know I come across as sarcastic. It's my idiom...I'll fall on my sword and apologize to Autobot032, but we're in a public forum here...I know I come across as an a$$ to some and witty to others but I've just been applying some playful humor, no condescension was intended...seriously. I'm giving these figures a thumbs down for my reasons stated above because thats just my opinion, all else was just sarcastic playful replies to others. I'll consider myself schooled on Seibertron blog etiquette. I think we all have bigger fish to fry.
Re: Transformers Prime Deluxe Bumblebee and Cliffjumper In-Hand (1301975)
Posted by jrgreer74 on October 18th, 2011 @ 3:29am CDT
Posted by jrgreer74 on October 18th, 2011 @ 3:29am CDT
It sounds like you guys are getting ready to choose sides! G1 guys being the Autobots, and the movie-verse guys being the Decepticons. I didn't like all the stuff in the movies either, like the jokes and antics of the twins. They went too far, but in truth, if we resist the changes we will never get to a future possibility of more G1 based characters in toy form. Why? The toys will die from 20+ years of repeating itself. Look back at G2 - everyone complaining of so few toys and the same old G1 cartoons with a new opening sequence. I love G1, but it wouldn't mean anything to me or my daughter, if I had watched it for 20+ years. I'd be sick of it. The time between and the lack of seeing the cartoons I loved as a kid, brought back the nostalgia and the feelings. If it wasn't for that, my daughter and I wouldn't be watching Transformers at all, because I'd of never introduced her to them if I was sick of seeing the repeats. Also, if it wasn't for the next series coming out I wouldn't of kept up with it at all. I'd rather support Transformers in any form, than to loss the franchise completely. I have and still do support them. I just choose which figures I like, and buy them. I disliked the twins, but I liked the ice cream combo in the movie. I bought the ice cream truck toy and left it in vehicle mode, but I never bought the regular car versions of the twins! I watch every series though, because I want to see how each series varies from the former one. It's like watching my daughter grow and change. So why start a war between us, when we can choose to get along in spite of the differences. From the way these forums get dirty some times you would come to think it was the Autobots who started the war, solely based on the fact that they didn't like the fact Megatron was a gun instead of a car, and had the ability to fly! G1 guys and gals, are we the ones guilty of a war being started over someone being different? In this case liking something different? If so, then maybe we ourselves are not very Optimus like either at our age. Maybe we are killing of the unarmed "Bad" guys without remorse! Why knock Prime in it's first season? That's killing an unarmed "BAD" guy isn't it? Come on, Optimus jumped all over Ratchet for hurting a worker class Decepticon in one episode, and rescued a Decepticon from "evil" humans in another! He is still just as Honorable, Merciful and Caring in Prime, as he was in G1. Regardless of the look of the characters. From one G1'er to the next, get over it! Life is too short, and we are not that "Holy".
Re: Transformers Prime Deluxe Bumblebee and Cliffjumper In-Hand (1301977)
Posted by jrgreer74 on October 18th, 2011 @ 3:38am CDT
Posted by jrgreer74 on October 18th, 2011 @ 3:38am CDT
By the way, I'm glad the figures will get released soon, Feb/March was looking sooo far away!!! I want every figure they come out with in this line. I just hope the don't flop on these like they did with animated. In spite of the flaws I bought all of them, except the ones Hasbro dropped the ball on. I still want to order them though. Just got to be patient until I have the money. Right now Prime is more important!! My daughter and I love the show!
Re: Transformers Prime Deluxe Bumblebee and Cliffjumper In-Hand (1301979)
Posted by G1 Legacy on October 18th, 2011 @ 3:49am CDT
Posted by G1 Legacy on October 18th, 2011 @ 3:49am CDT
Well said. I've been met with an equal dose of analytical splitting-of-the-hairs it seems. I think these current figure versions along with their accompanied storyline are very contempory in many ways as has each series BW, RID, energonetc not just politicaly but also in the forms of their animation presentation (and I have to admit that I havn't seen every episode of this seasons "Prime") so forgive me, I didn't get all of your analogies there, however I did get the jist of what you were saying. I wanna keep this targeted toward the figures in discussion but on a side note I don't apologize for being a voice for that which has come before. It's kinda like that cozy feeling you get when you sit down and watch an old Warner Bros. cartoon or old Disney movie for me. Thats all I've been saying, and previously I've been attacked on these boards just for posting a simple emoticon or typing a one sentence response so I've developed a sarcastic thick-skin towards the overall matrix of other opinions on this site, if you type anything on here, there will no doubt be a dozen or so people that disagree...if its a factual disagreement bring it up to them with your evidence, but if its just a difference of opinion be prepared to agree to disagree. But I enjoy the landslide of opinions, thats the fun part of Seibertron.com to me. The moderator guys pick on each other in the podcasts constantly and I'm sure they don't agree 100% on stuff but its that disagreement and disscusion thats entertaining for 2 hrs every other week. I carry a similar view toward these message boards. It's all good.
*Oh, and also StarWars has been rehashed for over 30 years now with new versions of the same figs and I don't see that franchise going anywhere so I respectfully disagree with the assesment that overall change is neccesary (yes I know Star Wars was a bigger phenomenon, but the same people that grew up with the original trilogy grew up with TF and GI Joe etc). If it's not broken, don't fix it. (that sounds like something Scatman Crothers' Jazz persona would say).
Thanks for reading and being patient guys!
*Oh, and also StarWars has been rehashed for over 30 years now with new versions of the same figs and I don't see that franchise going anywhere so I respectfully disagree with the assesment that overall change is neccesary (yes I know Star Wars was a bigger phenomenon, but the same people that grew up with the original trilogy grew up with TF and GI Joe etc). If it's not broken, don't fix it. (that sounds like something Scatman Crothers' Jazz persona would say).
Thanks for reading and being patient guys!
Re: Transformers Prime Deluxe Bumblebee and Cliffjumper In-Hand (1301984)
Posted by alzabanur on October 18th, 2011 @ 4:05am CDT
Posted by alzabanur on October 18th, 2011 @ 4:05am CDT
Hasbro like any other big company or eneterprise will sell anything that can make profits, moving away from the essence of their own creation. The movies are good if G1 or anthing transformers ever existed, but the fact is that is not. I saw the expecting to finish or be loyal to G1, now that Bay is out and hopefully is out. I hope the new director is a fan that can go more with the roots of transformers. G1 is the begining and like it was mentioned the Prime of the movies is not the Prime of G1 or in many other series. Yes the evolution of everything is innevitable, but without G1 there's no other series. The Prime series still missing the spark of G1 like beast wars on season 1. Is he very same the creators most likely are not fans. On Beastwars they tried to fix it at the end of season 1, then the series are a lot better. Prime depending on how goes season 2 it can be or an update to the series or just another transformers series. And here I draw my line i go for G1 it was part of my childhood and the series are unique.
Re: Transformers Prime Deluxe Bumblebee and Cliffjumper In-Hand (1301988)
Posted by Sodan-1 on October 18th, 2011 @ 4:41am CDT
Posted by Sodan-1 on October 18th, 2011 @ 4:41am CDT
I'm liking these figures. The way I see it I like the designs of the movie Transformers (mostly) but they're usually too complex to translate well into the figures. Step up the simplified Prime designs.
And now to nitpick: Why is Bumblebee bigger than Cliffjumper??? FAIL!
And now to nitpick: Why is Bumblebee bigger than Cliffjumper??? FAIL!
Re: Transformers Prime Deluxe Bumblebee and Cliffjumper In-Hand (1301990)
Posted by jrgreer74 on October 18th, 2011 @ 4:49am CDT
Posted by jrgreer74 on October 18th, 2011 @ 4:49am CDT
That's cool. Don't worry I've had my share of harsh words from others myself. Not here, but in other places online. I truly understand your opinion. If you knew my history you would know that to me Optimus in G1 was the dad I didn't have and always wanted. I decided instead that he was the guy I wanted to be and in turn the dad I wanted to be. I served in the U.S Army, then Law Enforcement, Church, etc. trying to model the life the cartoon hero inspired. I can only hope my daughter, when she is older will see why I loved Transformers so much and tried so hard to be like my hero. I may come up short sometimes, but if I can get close, just maybe she will see I tried. So trust me I know exactly what you mean when defending G1 and the way he was then. I'm right behind you 1000%, but when I look at things I try to look for the hero he was, not the things that others say he has become. Like the argument over how he did in DOTM. Though I was never in combat, I've had friends who were and talk a lot to vets when I'm at the VA. From what I've learned from reality, I'd probably of done the same thing. Why, because reality is this. If the Decepticons were real, they would never quit, they would never ever stop until all of us were dead. We face the same reality today. Look at the wars we fight today. Violent men alike kill regardless of who it is, their own people or strangers. So do the Decepticons. Do we allow these men to destoy our world today, like the Decepticons did their world? Or do we give up the fight to save our planet, by not fighting any more, but surrender all our freedoms and become their slaves. Trust me, like the Decepticons they won't stop until we are dead and gone. A new Bad guy will always arise somewhere, to carry on the fight until nothing is left. So can we really blame the road Optimus took in DOTM? If you knew today that if you fall, your family and friends would all die after you and you were already wounded and weak. If you could save them all, would you pull the trigger, even if you lost your life? He had to kill unmercifully in the end, because if he didn't, all he loved would have. Sad trade off I know, an eye for an eye end up being everyone is blind. But I'd rather fall knowing my wife and daughter are free from oppression, than to die wondering if they will be slaves or worse! If I'd admit that, why then would I put my hero down for doing the same thing?
So know that that's of my chest, on to the figures, again! I absolutely love Cliffjumper! I was afraid Hasbro was only going to do the Zombie version. Seeing him here makes me so much happier! I hated that he died the first episode. He has been ignored so much in the past, and he was such a good character. Then they finally do a great character of him only to kill him off in the first show!!! WHY???? Especially with the Rock as his voice! My best friend is not a fan of Transformers, but I helped win him over with the movies thanks to Ironhide. Then I talked him into the shows because he likes the Rock. Now he isn't so happy or involved with it anymore, because the killed his favorite characters off, both of them. Movie Ironhide and TF Prime's Cliffjumper! How can I keep him interested if Hasbro allows them to kill of the best ones? Except the big man himself that is. He is always reborn, unless Hot-Rod sticks his foot in the door!
So know that that's of my chest, on to the figures, again! I absolutely love Cliffjumper! I was afraid Hasbro was only going to do the Zombie version. Seeing him here makes me so much happier! I hated that he died the first episode. He has been ignored so much in the past, and he was such a good character. Then they finally do a great character of him only to kill him off in the first show!!! WHY???? Especially with the Rock as his voice! My best friend is not a fan of Transformers, but I helped win him over with the movies thanks to Ironhide. Then I talked him into the shows because he likes the Rock. Now he isn't so happy or involved with it anymore, because the killed his favorite characters off, both of them. Movie Ironhide and TF Prime's Cliffjumper! How can I keep him interested if Hasbro allows them to kill of the best ones? Except the big man himself that is. He is always reborn, unless Hot-Rod sticks his foot in the door!
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Posted by jrgreer74 on October 18th, 2011 @ 5:14am CDT
Posted by jrgreer74 on October 18th, 2011 @ 5:14am CDT
I just realized it is almost 6am and I'm rambling on over things too much. I had better get a little sleep my daughter will be up soon. I apologize for getting to deep, and if I hurt anyone's feelings. I just think we should look for the good in our heroes, no matter what. Every show deserves it's chance, cartoon or movie. They are still our heroes, whether they are perfect or not. Hasbro and others have been good at giving us new characters and shows, even live action movies. We should at least give them credit for that, they could of just stopped at G1, and they didn't have to even give us that. It's just a business. Legacy, thanks for talking and sharing you opinion, I enjoyed it. I agree on the Star Wars thing too, although they did change it some when they did the new cartoons, and the figures for the series. Really kiddish, like Prime is now. But, that is just my opinion. Have a good Day/Night, which ever you choose to call it. All the rest of you here have a good one too!
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Posted by G1 Legacy on October 18th, 2011 @ 5:36am CDT
Posted by G1 Legacy on October 18th, 2011 @ 5:36am CDT
First off, thanks for your service to the country, regardless of how much or how little. My grandfather fought in the Pacific Front of WWII and growing up I idolized his war stories that were passed down to me. I agree with everything you said. I too have thought about the actual implications of if Transformers were real...and the bottom line is the human race would be screwed...I don't think they would be polite enough to keep their affiliated symbols visible to us puny humans...all we would know is crazy robots are killing us, screw the good versus bad routine (in other words Autobots would have a hard time proving their good intentions).
My main beef with these figures is they seem too "Animated" looking. I noticed the scale was off with one another as well D'oh. I got a little frustrated with Hasbro earlier this year because of how they pulled the RTS line off shelves by liquidating them to make room for the DOTM line,however they didn't liquidate the other Generations red card stuff that had been on the shelf longer than RTS, and the red cards are still there on shelves and still $12 a pop at most every store I frequent...I can't make rhyme or reason out of those big whigs in charge at Hasbro. I wish they would communicate a little better with us their loyal fanbase instead of "This is what we're putting out and by god your gonna like it." Like the absence of Windchargers in the U.S. so far LOL (I'm still stopping at every CVS I see, lol). So this whole TF:Prime line is a pass for me for multiple reasons. I don't watch the show religiously, just an episode here and there. And also much to the amazment of most of you ,I'm sure, here it is almost November now and I still have not seen Dark of the Moon. Amazed? So I have no idea of how violent Prime waas in that flick. I was so depressed after ROTF that I vowed never again to watch a Bay flick. I visit this website enough to have gotten all of the spoilers so in a way I kinda have seen it blah blah blah. I'll watch it eventually I'm sure, but I'm not gonna spend money to do it. I'm sure Bay/Spielberg and the gang are doing just dandy without me. Again I agree that G1 Prime is one of the most iconic fictional heroes in history and someone said above that TF:Prime is the best cartoon since G1, and thats totally true, no doubt. But I just cant get into it or this new upcoming toyline. Thankfully I've got some Generations figs and some 3rd party stuff to keep me occupied for the time being. The only scenario I can forsee involving me purchasing TFP figures is if one or two ends up being rare and I buy them to sell later on ebay. And HotRod would never stick his foot in the door (yeah right)
*Sorry Blurrrz, I know we got off topic big time, I don't wanna get "counterpunched" here LOL.
Till all are one.
My main beef with these figures is they seem too "Animated" looking. I noticed the scale was off with one another as well D'oh. I got a little frustrated with Hasbro earlier this year because of how they pulled the RTS line off shelves by liquidating them to make room for the DOTM line,however they didn't liquidate the other Generations red card stuff that had been on the shelf longer than RTS, and the red cards are still there on shelves and still $12 a pop at most every store I frequent...I can't make rhyme or reason out of those big whigs in charge at Hasbro. I wish they would communicate a little better with us their loyal fanbase instead of "This is what we're putting out and by god your gonna like it." Like the absence of Windchargers in the U.S. so far LOL (I'm still stopping at every CVS I see, lol). So this whole TF:Prime line is a pass for me for multiple reasons. I don't watch the show religiously, just an episode here and there. And also much to the amazment of most of you ,I'm sure, here it is almost November now and I still have not seen Dark of the Moon. Amazed? So I have no idea of how violent Prime waas in that flick. I was so depressed after ROTF that I vowed never again to watch a Bay flick. I visit this website enough to have gotten all of the spoilers so in a way I kinda have seen it blah blah blah. I'll watch it eventually I'm sure, but I'm not gonna spend money to do it. I'm sure Bay/Spielberg and the gang are doing just dandy without me. Again I agree that G1 Prime is one of the most iconic fictional heroes in history and someone said above that TF:Prime is the best cartoon since G1, and thats totally true, no doubt. But I just cant get into it or this new upcoming toyline. Thankfully I've got some Generations figs and some 3rd party stuff to keep me occupied for the time being. The only scenario I can forsee involving me purchasing TFP figures is if one or two ends up being rare and I buy them to sell later on ebay. And HotRod would never stick his foot in the door (yeah right)
*Sorry Blurrrz, I know we got off topic big time, I don't wanna get "counterpunched" here LOL.
Till all are one.
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Posted by philtron3030 on October 18th, 2011 @ 6:06am CDT
Whew, feb would of been FAR to long of a wait for me. Glad too 'cuz there no other figures i want right now and i REALLY like to spend my moneys.
Posted by philtron3030 on October 18th, 2011 @ 6:06am CDT
Autobot032 wrote:dougpassat wrote:But Prime figures aren't coming out til Feb 2012 as per the NYCC 2011 Prime Panel
First Editions come out in November/December.
They include:
Arcee
Bumblebee
Starscream
Optimus Prime/Megatron 2-Pack with Jack, Miko and Raf figurines.
All Deluxe Class.
The rest of the line goes on sale February/March 2012.
The figures are already produced, just a matter of getting them out.
Whew, feb would of been FAR to long of a wait for me. Glad too 'cuz there no other figures i want right now and i REALLY like to spend my moneys.
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Posted by cadenheadr04 on October 18th, 2011 @ 6:24am CDT
Posted by cadenheadr04 on October 18th, 2011 @ 6:24am CDT
After reading a majority of this thread, I think TF:Prime has captured a bit of the nostalgia that people are looking for (people like me), while keeping it fresh and modified for this new generation of TF Fans. I agree, it misses in places, but it has told a great story and at least kept things moving without too many standalone episodes that don't fit the overall direction of the series. The designs of the characters are very much a new age idea and while they reflect the Bay-verse designs, I do believe that they took the G1 designs and characters to heart, solely to capture the essence of each character. That's why I love this franchise, new writers and animators bring new ideas and takes on something we all love. These toy designs are stellar and how they fit the animation models is actually quite impressive. It's hard to make an animated character design into a tangible object, and as far as these go, they have hit a homerun. I like that Cliffjumper and Bumblebee have their own unique molds. Alas, I won't be buying these due to some personal budget cuts. Gotta pay off school loans sometime...
Side note: Anyone notice that the Fall of Cybertron Cliffjumper head is the same as the TF:Prime one? Are we actually starting to see Hasbro's thoughts of "bringing together" the games/animated series?
Side note: Anyone notice that the Fall of Cybertron Cliffjumper head is the same as the TF:Prime one? Are we actually starting to see Hasbro's thoughts of "bringing together" the games/animated series?
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Posted by RhA on October 18th, 2011 @ 6:44am CDT
Posted by RhA on October 18th, 2011 @ 6:44am CDT
Those look sweet. I hope we get them over here in the stores as well.
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Posted by cannonfodder4000 on October 18th, 2011 @ 8:12am CDT
Like I said before, watch the show and you'll be wanting "these things".
Posted by cannonfodder4000 on October 18th, 2011 @ 8:12am CDT
Rated X wrote:Mix movie and animated and you have TF Prime. Im staying away from these things.
Like I said before, watch the show and you'll be wanting "these things".
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Posted by GuyIncognito on October 18th, 2011 @ 8:53am CDT
Posted by GuyIncognito on October 18th, 2011 @ 8:53am CDT
Is this the first time BB and CJ have received totally different molds in the same line and size class?
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Posted by paul053 on October 18th, 2011 @ 10:12am CDT
I think so. And I'm so buying this Cliffy just because he looks so different than BB. Since I can migrate Animated Arcee to be with my classics, why not Prime Cliffy.
Posted by paul053 on October 18th, 2011 @ 10:12am CDT
GuyIncognito wrote:Is this the first time BB and CJ have received totally different molds in the same line and size class?
I think so. And I'm so buying this Cliffy just because he looks so different than BB. Since I can migrate Animated Arcee to be with my classics, why not Prime Cliffy.
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Posted by kirbenvost on October 18th, 2011 @ 11:51am CDT
Posted by kirbenvost on October 18th, 2011 @ 11:51am CDT
What are we arguing about here?
Anyway, these look awesome, especially CJ. I just realized, I may decide to get this one as I like the fold out gun-hand instead of the big Mechtech-looking thingy on the other mold. Mechtech is one gimmick that needs to go away.
Anyway, these look awesome, especially CJ. I just realized, I may decide to get this one as I like the fold out gun-hand instead of the big Mechtech-looking thingy on the other mold. Mechtech is one gimmick that needs to go away.
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Posted by Aximalli_Prime on October 18th, 2011 @ 12:50pm CDT
LULZ. I must have these! I don't know why everybody seems to think they look like crap. I think they're pretty good! Voyager Prime, Bee, and Arcee are definite buys for me.
Posted by Aximalli_Prime on October 18th, 2011 @ 12:50pm CDT
LULZ. I must have these! I don't know why everybody seems to think they look like crap. I think they're pretty good! Voyager Prime, Bee, and Arcee are definite buys for me.
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Posted by Mykltron on October 18th, 2011 @ 1:23pm CDT
Posted by Mykltron on October 18th, 2011 @ 1:23pm CDT
I've never seen a TF vid with so much background noise or such awful camera work!
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Posted by TulioDude on October 18th, 2011 @ 2:28pm CDT
Posted by TulioDude on October 18th, 2011 @ 2:28pm CDT
Someone plaese close this topic,its full haters.
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Posted by jrgreer74 on October 18th, 2011 @ 3:00pm CDT
Posted by jrgreer74 on October 18th, 2011 @ 3:00pm CDT
Most definitely not a hater! I love this show and the figures. I would like to see Ratchet in toy form though, and more/closeup pics of Bulky. I want him and Cliff the most!
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Posted by tfanimatedfan1 on October 18th, 2011 @ 3:35pm CDT
Posted by tfanimatedfan1 on October 18th, 2011 @ 3:35pm CDT
correction they are comming out in december 
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Posted by TulioDude on October 18th, 2011 @ 3:50pm CDT
Posted by TulioDude on October 18th, 2011 @ 3:50pm CDT
jrgreer74 wrote:Most definitely not a hater! I love this show and the figures. I would like to see Ratchet in toy form though, and more/closeup pics of Bulky. I want him and Cliff the most!
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Posted by jrgreer74 on October 18th, 2011 @ 4:59pm CDT
Posted by jrgreer74 on October 18th, 2011 @ 4:59pm CDT
Glad you agree!
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Posted by Magestikdragon84 on October 18th, 2011 @ 7:00pm CDT
Posted by Magestikdragon84 on October 18th, 2011 @ 7:00pm CDT
Do I have my issues with the Prime series? Sorta. Did I have issues with Animated? Some. With the movies? Tons. But overall, it all gets over shadowed by what we're looking at now, some really neat toys. The second I saw Cliffjumper on the first episode, I wanted his figure. Kinda sad that my desire for his toy outlived the actual character in the series...
And you can't be upset with evolution. All the greats of the past have done it. I mean, we'd of never seen the awesomeness of the Dark Knight, if Batman had stopped at the weird and campy tv series.
I love Transformers, I have since the 80s, but us long time fans have to put aside the nostalgia factor and thinking everything was just more awesome back then (and they were), and realize what Transformers has always been... a toy line. The animated series, the movies... just really in the end, exspensive and long commercials. And really, we can't complain when in addition to Prime, HUB also airs the classic G1 series. The only thing we could ask more is for Beast Wars.
In the end, as long as there are toys, I'll buy. As long as theres a series, I'll watch. And if theres a movie, I'll go to the midnight showings AND midnight DVD releases.
And you can't be upset with evolution. All the greats of the past have done it. I mean, we'd of never seen the awesomeness of the Dark Knight, if Batman had stopped at the weird and campy tv series.
I love Transformers, I have since the 80s, but us long time fans have to put aside the nostalgia factor and thinking everything was just more awesome back then (and they were), and realize what Transformers has always been... a toy line. The animated series, the movies... just really in the end, exspensive and long commercials. And really, we can't complain when in addition to Prime, HUB also airs the classic G1 series. The only thing we could ask more is for Beast Wars.
In the end, as long as there are toys, I'll buy. As long as theres a series, I'll watch. And if theres a movie, I'll go to the midnight showings AND midnight DVD releases.
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Posted by jrgreer74 on October 18th, 2011 @ 8:42pm CDT
Posted by jrgreer74 on October 18th, 2011 @ 8:42pm CDT
Magestikdragon84 - In the end, as long as there are toys, I'll buy. As long as theres a series, I'll watch. And if theres a movie, I'll go to the midnight showings AND midnight DVD releases.
In the words of a preacher - AMEN!!!
In the words of a preacher - AMEN!!!
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Posted by grinkrystal on October 19th, 2011 @ 12:56am CDT
Posted by grinkrystal on October 19th, 2011 @ 12:56am CDT
Hi guys check out the full transformation of the two figures here:
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