Transformers Prime Dead End, Shadow Strike Bumblebee, and Airachnid In-Hand Images

Va'al wrote:I'm still not convinced by Airachnid.

The others are all pass, apart from Steve.

Sabrblade wrote:So, Dark Energon changed Dead End from being like this, eh?

Doubledealer93 wrote:that dead end is bad ass. i don't know why people are complaining about his colors. i like them.

orangeitis wrote:Prime isn't in the same universe as WFC.

Sabrblade wrote:

orangeitis wrote:Prime isn't in the same universe as WFC.

Sabrblade wrote:

orangeitis wrote:Prime isn't in the same universe as WFC.

Sabrblade wrote:

orangeitis wrote:Prime isn't in the same universe as WFC.

Rodimus Minor wrote:

Doubledealer93 wrote:that dead end is bad ass. i don't know why people are complaining about his colors. i like them.

Same here he looks great I will be getting him for sure, Whelljack has a cool mould

orangeitis wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:So, Dark Energon changed Dead End from being like this, eh?

Prime isn't in the same universe as WFC.

orangeitis wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

orangeitis wrote:Prime isn't in the same universe as WFC.

Oh I'm serious.

Are you saying that the G1 cartoon is in the same universe as the comic? Or hell, the Armada anime with it's comic?

While both may be in Aligned, they are obviously separate universes.

Sabrblade wrote:

orangeitis wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

orangeitis wrote:Prime isn't in the same universe as WFC.

Oh I'm serious.

Are you saying that the G1 cartoon is in the same universe as the comic? Or hell, the Armada anime with it's comic?

While both may be in Aligned, they are obviously separate universes.

Nevertheless, that is what Dead end used to look like in the Aligned Continuity. The WFC/FOC bodies are what the characters looked like in the ancient past, while the Prime bodies are what they look like in the present.

Sabrblade wrote:

orangeitis wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

orangeitis wrote:Prime isn't in the same universe as WFC.

Oh I'm serious.

Are you saying that the G1 cartoon is in the same universe as the comic? Or hell, the Armada anime with it's comic?

While both may be in Aligned, they are obviously separate universes.

Nevertheless, that is what Dead end used to look like in the Aligned Continuity. The WFC/FOC bodies are what the characters looked like in the ancient past, while the Prime bodies are what they look like in the present.

orangeitis wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Nevertheless, that is what Dead end used to look like in the Aligned Continuity. The WFC/FOC bodies are what the characters looked like in the ancient past, while the Prime bodies are what they look like in the present.

That makes no sense. The WFC designs are collectively a totally different aesthetic than the collective Prime designs.

Yes, I know they're millions of years apart, but we don't have evidence to show that Transformers in those two universes work that way. It's best not to jump to such conclusions. Until we have confirmed proof that they can look however they want to, or that there has been an in-continuity shift in their species design(not to mention every single TF giving up all those stylish noses), there's no need to claim that they can.

Sabrblade wrote:What more proof do you want than Hasbro openly declaring them to be in the same continuity? One has one look, another has another look, yet both are in the same continuity.

Sabrblade wrote:The same applies to G1 and Beast Wars/Machines. both are completely different in aesthetics (especially G1 and Beast Machines), yet no one questions their being connected.

Va'al wrote:Nah, Airachnid is a serious pass for me.

orangeitis wrote:Because one Hasbro representative might not know a thing about how universes, continuities, and universal streams work?

We need more solid ground to go by than that. I'm sorry, but we still need some clarification on the matter.

orangeitis wrote:It's not the same simply because Beast Machines had an in-continuity reason for the aesthetic shift to take place(namely, technorganic shiz). Once there is fiction that explains how WFC/FoC Cybertron got invaded by the nose-snatchers, there's no need to jump to any conclusions.

DISCHARGE wrote:5 dollar foot long



All she's missing is a Subway logo behind her?

Sabrblade wrote:

orangeitis wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Nevertheless, that is what Dead end used to look like in the Aligned Continuity. The WFC/FOC bodies are what the characters looked like in the ancient past, while the Prime bodies are what they look like in the present.

That makes no sense. The WFC designs are collectively a totally different aesthetic than the collective Prime designs.

Yes, I know they're millions of years apart, but we don't have evidence to show that Transformers in those two universes work that way. It's best not to jump to such conclusions. Until we have confirmed proof that they can look however they want to, or that there has been an in-continuity shift in their species design(not to mention every single TF giving up all those stylish noses), there's no need to claim that they can.

What more proof do you want than Hasbro openly declaring them to be in the same continuity? One has one look, another has another look, yet both are in the same continuity. I don't believe anything an exec from a toy company says, them saying its the same universe is like them peeing on your back and saying its raining, i'm sorry but they are different universes, hasbro must think we will believe anything they throw at us

The same applies to G1 and Beast Wars/Machines. both are completely different in aesthetics (especially G1 and Beast Machines), yet no one questions their being connected.

Ultra Markus wrote:that's because in beast wars they traveled to earths past during the time the decepicons and autobots that are on the crashed ship called the ark was still in stasis lock and they actually came across the ship in on episode and to save optimus prime from being destroyed by megatron 2 optimus primal merged his spark with the matrix, i could go on but you get the idea
maybe you should go and watch the show for a better idea

Sabrblade wrote:Their art styles are still vastly different from each other, yet everyone's A-OK with that. Thus, the argument that WFC/FOC and Prime having different art styles makes them incompatible is invalid.

MINDVVIPE wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Their art styles are still vastly different from each other, yet everyone's A-OK with that. Thus, the argument that WFC/FOC and Prime having different art styles makes them incompatible is invalid.

They could have also evolved over time from landing on other planets and taking new alt mode forms, and then theres bodily upgrades, and so on.

MINDVVIPE wrote:
And lookey here, all of a sudden everyone loves Dead-End . I remember everyone hating on Dead-end when we first got those convention shots or whatever, haha. I always liked the colours and the mould. Also, You guys argueing about the... logic in the continuity: It would make more sense to argue Wheeljacks appearance in Prime and what it would have been if it were in WFC of FOC, and how that form of WJ is now the same form of Dead-End. Other than that, its just an easy repaint, so the body style and its legitimate connections with lore is pretty much out the window..

Sabrblade wrote:Um, Aaron Archer is Vice President of Intellectual Property Development at Hasbro. He's the man responsible for keeping all the continuities stable and in order, and the one (along with Rik Alvarez) who's completely developed the entire history of the Aligned continuity, from it's ancient past of WFC and the novels, to its present day of TF: Prime, and well beyond into whatever its future may be. He's well above being "one Hasbro representative".

Sabrblade wrote:Not everything between the two looks complete different.

orangeitis wrote:It doesn't matter who it is. And if he's in charge of continuity and declares two contradicting fictions to be in the same universe, he's in the wrong, not the universes.

One authority can not just shoehorn their own vision into the canon if the canon contradicts them, even if they wrote it themselves. It's just not how fiction works. Unless for instance you think the pope can decide biblical canon... if so, we're just on two different pages here.

Sabrblade wrote:Um, he created the Aligned continuity's history and timeline first, and then the two parties behind the games and show created their works based on what he and Alvarez created. The games and show are adaptations of his work, not vice-versa.

Sabrblade wrote:Plus, you keep saying that there two contradict each other, yet there's little to say that they do. As the Beast Era has proven, the argument of "different art styles = incompatibility" is invalid. There has yet to be anything that cannot be rationally explained between the two.

Noideaforaname wrote:Dead End is Halloween incarnate.

Ravage XK wrote:The more I look at Arachnid the more of a pass she is. Just looks like you clip her legs together plug her arms by her side and lay her on her face to transform.