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why is metalhawks inner robot master blue? shouldn't he be gold?
going by the others that show the accurate colors for the inner master

Ultra Markus wrote:why is metalhawks inner robot master blue? shouldn't he be gold?
going by the others that show the accurate colors for the inner master

Gang-molding. Each Prime Master, like the Titan Masters before them, only have two plastic colors. Also, making him gold will not only activate the fandom's paranoia of GPS, but it will make him look too much like his mold-mate Landmine.

And, after bouncing around from target to target for a couple weeks, finally snagged Slug and Swoop. They're going up in stasis to the top shelf of the closet for a while, though, as they're destined to be Minibot's Christmas gifts.

The target employee that grabbed them for me had obviously been asked about them before. He knew exactly what I was talking about and knew exactly what characters they were. He couldn't find the legends, though, so the hunt continues!

As far as the online voyager pricing... I wouldn't get too up in arms until we get a physical siting in Brick and Mortar.

Also... considering Grimmy will be harder to find, I'm pretty sure i'll save (gas) money in the long run nipping this in the bud.

As for "they always over-stock the first wave". Wasn't that NOT the case for Combiner Wars?

While preorders have gone up at several of our site sponsors for Power of the Primes Wave 1 Figures (that list can be seen here), they had yet to show up on Amazon-until now, that is, thanks to a tip from fellow Seibertronian boyatlarge! Currently, only Wave 1 Voyagers (Grimlock and Starscream), and Wave 1 Legends (Slash, Windcharger, Beachcomber and Shrapnel Skrapnel) are available to preorder, as well as Wave 1 figure Jazz. Set to be available on December 15th (with free two-day shipping for Amazon Prime members), this is a great way to start your Power of the Primes collecting!

It should be noted that while full cases of the Wave 1 Deluxes are shown by clicking the "available on December 15th" link above, those are not sold by Amazon, which means they are generally sold at a higher price (via a 3rd party seller) and are also not eligible for Prime shipping- not to mention that the cases aren't expected to be available until February.

Also, if you're out shopping for whatever holiday you celebrate, and you come across any Power of the Primes figures, let us know on in our Sightings Section (which appears on Seibertron's front page), an also on our Sightings Forum. where you can share your finds with local fans!

Are you ready to capture the Power of the Primes? Click on each picture below to be taken to that particular product's Amazon listing, and happy hunting!

Slash


Beachcomber


Windcharger


Shrapnel Skrapnel


Jazz


Grimlock


Starscream

Pre-ordered Grimlock, Slash, and Jazz. Now the wait begins.

Well this ruined bbts and tfsources day since they jacked up the price of the voyagers. Im still gonna wait for target since I already scored the deluxes and legends from them early.

So the dinobots are one of the biggest points of controversy with this line. So much agonizing over the fact that they are not voyagers.

Well, I did a quick comparison between Slags (G1/G2 vs PotP) and PotP in bot mode is nearly a head taller. Here is my breakdown:

Bot mode:
Size: PotP Slag is noticeably taller, G1 is thicker.
Poseability: PotP, not even close

Dino:
Size: G1 is thicker but PotP is just about as long. Basically the different is the head and hind quarters (the bot feet part).
Poseability: PotP slightly wins out here do to the arms being more poseable.

Transformation:
Kibble: PotP wins because the found something to do with the darn tail. The only purpose it served on the G1 figure was to stabilize him so he could stand upright.
Faithfulness: less of a "which is better" and more "does it transform how I expect him to based on the old toy and animation". His transformation is 95% spot onn except one omission. The dino back does not turn into wings. A minor gripe from a stellar toy.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1d-A7Fa ... RRS_B/view

So maybe my opinion won't sway you on the deluxes, but I will leave you with this thought... there is so much detail on these figures that an oversized KO (was it Wei Jiang doing them for TR deluxes?) is still going to look fantastic.

Oops, posted in the wrong tab and forum. Sorry!

Autobot N wrote:Pre-ordered Grimlock, Slash, and Jazz. Now the wait begins.

Dude, just wait for them to show up in stores. Wave 1 is ALWAYS overstocked. It's the later waves you have to worry about.

Ironhidensh wrote:

Autobot N wrote:Pre-ordered Grimlock, Slash, and Jazz. Now the wait begins.

Dude, just wait for them to show up in stores. Wave 1 is ALWAYS overstocked. It's the later waves you have to worry about.

From my very limited experience, having gotten back into collecting recently from the start of Titans Return, I've found it was middle waves which are the worst. The first two waves generally gets a lot of stuff out there and in stock but then come the inevitable shelf-warming and crappy product rotation which result in the new mid-line stuff being understocked. The later stuff meanwhile gets to clog shelves too. How bad you may ask? Well, bad enough that if I wanted to I could army build deluxes.

HTS is now showing more PotP figures. As of right now (approx 2:30pm EST) Legends and Deluxes are in stock at HTS and the others are not.

https://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/SearchDis ... pageSize:&

mordhelm wrote:HTS is now showing more PotP figures. As of right now (approx 2:30pm EST) Legends and Deluxes are in stock at HTS and the others are not.

https://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/SearchDis ... pageSize:&

.......and it's all out of stock again.

It's been a chaotic couple of days. I preordered the deluxes from BBTS to start. Wasn't crazy about the prices of the other figures, and the legends I wanted were sold out. When they were available on Amazon, I jumped on the legends and Grimlock. Then when the deluxes were available on HTS, I jumped on those and canceled by BBTS PO. Hopefully they'll get Grimlock and the legends back in stock and I'll be a happy camper.

You know, I'm all too aware I'm biased from having watched Beast Wars as a kid but I'll be seriously dissapointed if there isn't a Beast Wars Megatron in PotP, even if I'm all to aware the odds are more or less 0% because Warden hate Beast Wars and only allowed in Optimus Primal presumably because Hasbro said he'd be in from the fan vote.

And yet, assuming there is no later-waves PotP Deathsaurus to remold him from in his dragon mode (a suitable match for him, since Optimus Primal has his 'Optimal' form in this toyline) would it be so hard to remold him from Grimlock? All he'd need is a new robot mode head and maybe, if Hasbro feel generous, new hips details to mimic the turbines on his Transmetal form. Again, I know it won't happen but my inner child really wants it badly.

Plus, it just seem so...wrong...to have Primal in a line without any Beast-era Predacon to oppose him. Not to mention that Megatron hasn't had a new toy since the Cybertron era. Sure, there are talk of a masterpiece but I'm talking mass retail. Again, I know, it won't happen I'm just saying if they wanted to they could totally do it because they got a brand new T-Rex mold and barring Goryu I just don't see a use for the mold unless they just keep the internal engineering and completely reshell it.

Sadly, us Beast Wars fans have to settle for table scraps.

King Kuuga wrote:Sadly, us Beast Wars fans have to settle for table scraps.

I honestly don't get what you're complaining about. I mean realistically, the entire BW line was damn near perfect to the point they're nearly impossible to improve on.

I want a T-Rex Megatron that evolves into a giant dragon, damn it.

I also want a Magnaboss that can move his head, and whose components are a little better balanced. Still, I'll never forget unwrapping that big guy in Christmas of '97....
(And yes I know the TFCC made stickers to convert Silverbolt, Prowl, and Ironhide into a Magnaboss set with some of their exclusives but it's not the same thing)

I just want that leader prime...... when that appears somewhere that will be amazing

Via the Snakas blog, and reportedly from a private Philippines-based collector group on Facebook, we have images of the evolution gimmick of the new Leader class figures from the Transformers Power of the Primes toyline, Optimus Prime and Rodimus Prime - with their deluxe size inner robots, Orion Pax and Hot Rod!

We have seen the official stock photography and the images from the shows where the toys were first seen and revealed - in fact, you can check out our gallery here for Hascon 2017 and here for New York Comic Con 2017 - but this is a good look at the empty compartment that will house the inner figures, taken mid-way setup by employees preparing an exhibition. We also see how the arms will indeed be needing to separate from the body for transformation, though we don't know how they will be packaged. Check them out below!

I want optimus so bad!

Hot Rod looks fine (if not a little simplistic), but there's something about Orion Pax that makes him feel like he's too round to go with the armor.

I saw this and thought how cool it would be if the used the rodimus prime mold for it

Burn wrote:

King Kuuga wrote:Sadly, us Beast Wars fans have to settle for table scraps.

I honestly don't get what you're complaining about. I mean realistically, the entire BW line was damn near perfect to the point they're nearly impossible to improve on.

Yeah well, even as a lifelong Beast Wars fan I'd have to diagree on some level. Certainly those who became show characters had good toys but the line was very hit and miss and its engineering is, in some respect, quite lacking compared to modern toys. Especially when it come to weight and stability, many of them being very backheavy.

Oh and don't forget: not all of these toys have survived our childhoods. In some respect, there are G1 figures which survived way better than those from the Beast Era, what with these ball joints which have eroded and came loose. Oh and let's not forget GPS, which claimed many iconic figures from that era, such as Megatron's transmetal form, Optimal Optimus and Dinobot II. Sure, all toys decay, but judging from my fairly large and well-preserved collection, even a careful childhood will result in toys that have disintegrated when removed from boxes.

In my case, a new Megatron is paramount since all my previous figures of the guy have broken. Had Transmetal megatron not been so fragile you are correct that its good enough 20 years later as a representation of the guy. Its engineering is good and its poseability decent and its very show-accurate. Unfortunately, the crappy brittle plastic prevents it from being so 'near flawless', as does flaking and turning to dust does to other figures, often breaking in ways that simply cannot be repaired.

Va'al wrote:What is unclear is whether the arms will indeed be needing to separate from the body for transformation, or if that is just a shipping/packaging detail. Check them out below!

What's unclear? Rodimus Prime's arms attach to Hot Rod's knees, with his shins pointing upwards to form Rodimus's shoulders. When Hot Rod is Hot Rod and not the torso of Rodimus Prime, the arms have nothing to attach to except in trailer configuration. We saw this at NYCC as well. Or Hascon. One of them.

Va'al wrote:What is unclear is whether the arms will indeed be needing to separate from the body for transformation, or if that is just a shipping/packaging detail.

The Rodimus Prime arms connect to the lower leg of Hot Rod for Prime Mode (pictured below) and are store on the part of the trailer above Hot Rod in vehicle mode. So it's not a a shipping/packaging detail it's parts-forming.

Personally I don't mind it, the figure is still the best looking Hot Rod and Rodimus Prime to date IMO.

i can't wait. been wanting a Rodimus for YEARS!

That Orion Pax is dare I say it... mighty fine looking.

So want that PTOP Prime.

I'm slightly disappointed on Hot Rod-imus Prime... who am I kidding, its Hot Rod, I'm gonna buy it anyway.

King Kuuga wrote:

Va'al wrote:What is unclear is whether the arms will indeed be needing to separate from the body for transformation, or if that is just a shipping/packaging detail. Check them out below!

What's unclear? Rodimus Prime's arms attach to Hot Rod's knees, with his shins pointing upwards to form Rodimus's shoulders. When Hot Rod is Hot Rod and not the torso of Rodimus Prime, the arms have nothing to attach to except in trailer configuration. We saw this at NYCC as well. Or Hascon. One of them.

NOBLExGAMER wrote:

Va'al wrote:What is unclear is whether the arms will indeed be needing to separate from the body for transformation, or if that is just a shipping/packaging detail.

The Rodimus Prime arms connect to the lower leg of Hot Rod for Prime Mode (pictured below) and are store on the part of the trailer above Hot Rod in vehicle mode. So it's not a a shipping/packaging detail it's parts-forming.

Personally I don't mind it, the figure is still the best looking Hot Rod and Rodimus Prime to date IMO.

We do, you're both right. I wasn't paying attention to my fingers pre-breakfast this morning. Fixed!

Overcracker wrote:That Orion Pax is dare I say it... mighty fine looking.

In both modes?

Optimus looks fine in large robot mode but damn Orion Pax has always looked so dorky and lame. Hot Rod looks ok I suppose (his usual arm exhaust/guns look crappy though, like some cheap cosplay of a child who's just spraypainted some cardboard tubes silver and stuck them to his arms)

Ultra Markus wrote:I saw this and thought how cool it would be if the used the rodimus prime mold for it

PicsArt_07-25-09.31.59.jpg

Where do I buy this?!

william-james88 wrote:

Overcracker wrote:That Orion Pax is dare I say it... mighty fine looking.

In both modes?

Yup.

ThunderThruster wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:I saw this and thought how cool it would be if the used the rodimus prime mold for it

PicsArt_07-25-09.31.59.jpg

Where do I buy this?!

its just a digibash but it does look like a possibilty

Ultra Markus wrote:I saw this and thought how cool it would be if the used the rodimus prime mold for it

PicsArt_07-25-09.31.59.jpg

this would be a great counterpart to that armada megatron we got in CW

And armada starscream and generations hot shot

Ultra Markus wrote:

ThunderThruster wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:I saw this and thought how cool it would be if the used the rodimus prime mold for it

PicsArt_07-25-09.31.59.jpg

Where do I buy this?!

its just a digibash but it does look like a possibilty

I'm aware, but it looks like a decent modern interpretation.

While it seems we know so much about the upcoming Transformers Power of the Primes toys, there is one part we know very little of: how their backs look like. While Leader Optimus Prime may look like MP10 from the front, no one knows how he looks like from the back? Well, a Transformers hands on event was held in Hong Kong and thanks to several posts on HK-TF 變形金剛香港網盟 and Hobbymizer Hong Kong Discuss, we now know that it looks like and ... it's not like MP10. We also have some great shots of Voyager Grimlock's back which has also not fully been revealed yet, along with more torso shots of Voyager Starscream. We also get our first shot of Starscream fully combined. There are also several images showing where the combiner heads are hidden which can make for some very wacky poses. Plus, we see the interchangeable Titan/Prime Master gimmick with the Matrix that comes with the leaders in full force and used in fun ways.

These items are all due to come to retail in December 2017/January 2018, depending on your distribution channel of choice and the price points we have seen so far are not consistent from one retailer to the next.

Well, Orion Pax as a bot looks great....the truck looks a bit rough. :/

This picture seems to confirm the "Deluxe" modes of the Leaders will be closer to a Voyager in scale than a normal Deluxe. I'm super okay with this, especially in Hot Rod's case as, in my opinion, he'll scale perfectly with my CW Ultra Magnus and T30 Springer and Arcee!

Fellow Seibertronian chuckdawg1999 has reviewed all of the Wave 1 Prime Masters from Transformers Power of the Primes. These include Liege Maximo and Skullgrin Decoy Armor, Micronus and Cloudburst Decoy Armor, and Vector Prime and Metalhawk Decoy Armor. These retail for either $4.99 or $5.99 depending on the retailer, and they have so far only been found at Hasbro Toy Shop but other stores should be stocking these within the coming month. For info on what is coming out next for this Prime Master class, please check the full list of what we know here.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:The Prime Masters are the small figures that the line are sorta built around. They can stand in Pretender shells, ride in/on Legends, and attach to the armor of deluxe figures. Oh, they can also be used as heads, on Titans Return figures and interact with Titan Master drones and bases. One negative is that a lot of the uniqueness of a Titan Master is lost with Prime Masters, and the Pretender shells transform the same way thus far. For five bucks USD though, you really can't go wrong.

I'm really digging the idea of Slash. I've always loved the Dinobots. I have to admit I was adverse to the idea of a sixth member, but then I figured that maybe it was time to adjust the team. And a new Dinobot that turns into a velociraptor complete with G1 styling? Yes please. However, I'm still not entirely thrilled with the idea of a Dinobot combiner--horrible flashbacks of "The Beast" and "Mega Dinobot" persist.





That aside, I've got Slash pre-ordered through Amazon and am looking forward to adding her to my collection.

Oh my gosh, Primal might actually be close to the right scale with Rhinox and Waspinator then! Now I might have to buy two so I can have one Primal displayed in his bot mode and the other as full-on Optimal Optimus. Hooray!

Can't unsee the way some pics had them...fiddled.

It's frustrating cos some parts of these figures look fine but then are just completely ruined by other parts. Really wish the Dinobots hadn't been forced to combine. It's an awful mode that doesn't really represent the Dinobots well at all (ok it's not an abomination like that beast comic but I would have thought something bulky like the Hulk, a huge big brawler would have looked cool, maybe hunched over a bit like RotF Devastator. This one just looks really lame)

Uh... what is the Starscream combiner doing to Quake?

Carnivius_Prime wrote:It's frustrating cos some parts of these figures look fine but then are just completely ruined by other parts. Really wish the Dinobots hadn't been forced to combine. It's an awful mode that doesn't really represent the Dinobots well at all (ok it's not an abomination like that beast comic but I would have thought something bulky like the Hulk, a huge big brawler would have looked cool, maybe hunched over a bit like RotF Devastator. This one just looks really lame)

Uh... what is the Starscream combiner doing to Quake?

I couldn't have said it better myself. The Dinobots just aren't supposed to combine. It's kind of the antithesis to their entire ethos.

And that Starscream/Quake photo is weird . . .

Soooooo........let me get this straight we are no longer allowed to talk about MAGA-Jazz on this thread.........I have been out of the loop since I got BANNED for a week because I spoke my mind and I was just making sure.
Anyways since I could not do this sooner, here is my sincerest apology, inspired by ones made by Spacey, Weinstein, and Louis C.K..
I am so very very very sorry for the words that I wrote on this forum, and for anyone and everyone that was offend by them, I hope you all know that I now know what I did was wrong and I hope you can see it in your hearts to forgive me.....because I am an evil man.
Now that all that is out of the way, I just wanted to say that I agree with the person above that said that is seems like fans of Beast Wars are just getting table scraps, and even though Beast Wars figures had better engineering compared to G1, does not mean they stood the test of time. Also it would be nice just to have more of them made in the modern line in my opinion. Because with the way its going they should just call the Generation line, the Generation One Character Only line.....just saying.
Also I do like the way the "Deluxe" sized figures look for the evolution Leader Class sets, but the "combined" "Super" modes leave a little to be desired. Rodimus has visible hand syndrome, and the shots of both of them from behind just look terrible.
So now I am just gonna sit and wait for them to ban me again for this post.
See y'all later.

found on Youtube:

PotP Leader Class Orion Pax/Optimus Prime

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21gWowsbNWs[/youtube]

ThunderThruster wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:

ThunderThruster wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:I saw this and thought how cool it would be if the used the rodimus prime mold for it

PicsArt_07-25-09.31.59.jpg

Where do I buy this?!

its just a digibash but it does look like a possibilty

I'm aware, but it looks like a decent modern interpretation.

Here's to hoping for a real one

I really, really dig that Optimus. Especially for Orion Pax. This leader will be bought day one for sure.

The Hot-Rod / Rodimus Prime is not too bad too.

Starscream is very nice, but his torso mode is iffy. Maybe if he'll have some nice limbs to go with him...

As for the dinobots... erh... They don't excite me at all. Still, I wouldn't mind a G2 Dinobots box set.