Transformers Power of the Primes Prime Masters Wave 2 now online at Hasbro Toy Shop

Got my throne primal today, haven't transformed him yet, but his bot mode is kinda glorious, gonna get the standard release if I find him for retail price, but this is fun in that it's something different.

Also got inferno after seeing so many pics of him looking great; I think its the really wide feet, they make him look way more proportionate

Alright, had some time to mess around with everyone, optimal is indeed glorious, and a must have in my opinion, just for all the crazy and fun ways that he can combined, he really took the gimmick to its limit.

Out-fer-yes is - grudgingly - pretty good too. The nicely tight thigh joints (thanks to the remolding) allow him to hold a pose a little better than hotspot ever could, and I like the colors better. Hate to say that out-fer-yes has silver paint splotched all over his eyebrows and his combined mode headcrest is assembled backwards

Hellscream9999 wrote:Got my throne primal today, haven't transformed him yet, but his bot mode is kinda glorious, gonna get the standard release if I find him for retail price, but this is fun in that it's something different.

Also got inferno after seeing so many pics of him looking great; I think its the really wide feet, they make him look way more proportionate

Not gonna lie, I'm turning more and more green seeing how much everyone is enjoying Primal. I'm normally pretty lucky with these things, so I guess it's my turn to be left out in the cold.

Lore Keeper wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Got my throne primal today, haven't transformed him yet, but his bot mode is kinda glorious, gonna get the standard release if I find him for retail price, but this is fun in that it's something different.

Also got inferno after seeing so many pics of him looking great; I think its the really wide feet, they make him look way more proportionate

Not gonna lie, I'm turning more and more green seeing how much everyone is enjoying Primal. I'm normally pretty lucky with these things, so I guess it's my turn to be left out in the cold.

Apparently he will be double-packed in wave 4 and also be in wave 3, which means that everyone should be able to find one if stores keep stocking the leader class figures

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Got my throne primal today, haven't transformed him yet, but his bot mode is kinda glorious, gonna get the standard release if I find him for retail price, but this is fun in that it's something different.

Also got inferno after seeing so many pics of him looking great; I think its the really wide feet, they make him look way more proportionate

Not gonna lie, I'm turning more and more green seeing how much everyone is enjoying Primal. I'm normally pretty lucky with these things, so I guess it's my turn to be left out in the cold.

Apparently he will be double-packed in wave 4 and also be in wave 3, which means that everyone should be able to find one if stores keep stocking the leader class figures

I meant the SDCC one. I keep checking the product page, hoping against hope. It just looks so amazing.

Lore Keeper wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Lore Keeper wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Got my throne primal today, haven't transformed him yet, but his bot mode is kinda glorious, gonna get the standard release if I find him for retail price, but this is fun in that it's something different.

Also got inferno after seeing so many pics of him looking great; I think its the really wide feet, they make him look way more proportionate

Not gonna lie, I'm turning more and more green seeing how much everyone is enjoying Primal. I'm normally pretty lucky with these things, so I guess it's my turn to be left out in the cold.

Apparently he will be double-packed in wave 4 and also be in wave 3, which means that everyone should be able to find one if stores keep stocking the leader class figures

I meant the SDCC one. I keep checking the product page, hoping against hope. It just looks so amazing.

Well, you can still pre-order the TT release...

Hellscream9999 wrote:Well, you can still pre-order the TT release...

Oh, I have. 2019 is a long time to wait when your whole MO is reviewing new toys. Total first world problem, I know. But one that is frustrating me to no end the last few days.

Lore Keeper wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Well, you can still pre-order the TT release...

Oh, I have. 2019 is a long time to wait when your whole MO is reviewing new toys. Total first world problem, I know. But one that is frustrating me to no end the last few days.

I have no problem waiting until Jan. I'm waiting for reviews to come in to see if I really want it. But I'm an unapologetic G1 fan who never watched BW...so this is not high on my list.

Gotta admit, it's kinda cool having 12/13 primemasters, might get onyx, if I can find predaking on discount.

But that throne is no joke, it has a ratcheted backing for holding all the primemasters, was not expectin that

ZeroWolf wrote:Following Inferno's arrival on Hasbro Toy Shop, we've received word from fellow Seiberton user, DeathReviews, that Wave 2 of the Prime Master class is now online. This will be a welcome relief to those that are searching for these but haven't come across them in stores. The two Primes represented here is Alchemist Prime (Who has decoy armour modelled on Decepticon Pretender Submaruder) and Alpha Trion (Who has decoy armour modelled on Autobot Pretender Landmine).

Going to pass and hopefully not regret it later. I'm just holding out hope that either wave 2 does turn up in stores properly or they do a revision wave in place of the non-existent wave 4 that includes these two guys in it.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Following Inferno's arrival on Hasbro Toy Shop, we've received word from fellow Seiberton user, DeathReviews, that Wave 2 of the Prime Master class is now online. This will be a welcome relief to those that are searching for these but haven't come across them in stores. The two Primes represented here is Alchemist Prime (Who has decoy armour modelled on Decepticon Pretender Submaruder) and Alpha Trion (Who has decoy armour modelled on Autobot Pretender Landmine).

Going to pass and hopefully not regret it later. I'm just holding out hope that either wave 2 does turn up in stores properly or they do a revision wave in place of the non-existent wave 4 that includes these two guys in it.

I was fortunate enough to find those 2 at Walmart. I have yet to see Bludgeon, Bomb-Burst and Octopunch anywhere.

Emerje wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Following Inferno's arrival on Hasbro Toy Shop, we've received word from fellow Seiberton user, DeathReviews, that Wave 2 of the Prime Master class is now online. This will be a welcome relief to those that are searching for these but haven't come across them in stores. The two Primes represented here is Alchemist Prime (Who has decoy armour modelled on Decepticon Pretender Submaruder) and Alpha Trion (Who has decoy armour modelled on Autobot Pretender Landmine).

Going to pass and hopefully not regret it later. I'm just holding out hope that either wave 2 does turn up in stores properly or they do a revision wave in place of the non-existent wave 4 that includes these two guys in it.

Emerje

There's one Target near me that have had them for a few weeks, at least last I checked. It's the one in Burlington, NJ for anyone looking.

There's some class meta-humor about how optimal was totally just a spiffy backpack on a gorilla, that taking said backpack off leaves the gorilla totally unfazed, while the backpack becomes even spiffier

Hellscream9999 wrote:There's some class meta-humor about how optimal was totally just a spiffy backpack on a gorilla, that taking said backpack off leaves the gorilla totally unfazed, while the backpack becomes even spiffier

On his new toy it's not a bug, it's a feature! You get a functionnal Optimal Optimus toy with a bonus 'cybertronian mode' (or actionmaster if you're feeling saucy!) Optimus Primal which approximate what he looked before scanning his organic gorilla mode.

I plan to get both the regular and SDCC/Throne version and the regular version will most likely be modded so I can separate both figures while the Throne will remain intact as the 'Evolution'/combining gimmick is more visually palatable with a unified scheme.

So, infinity gauntlet style, which 4 primemasters would you use if you had it? Mine are A3, Vector prime, quintus, and alchemist.

Skritz wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:There's some class meta-humor about how optimal was totally just a spiffy backpack on a gorilla, that taking said backpack off leaves the gorilla totally unfazed, while the backpack becomes even spiffier

On his new toy it's not a bug, it's a feature! You get a functionnal Optimal Optimus toy with a bonus 'cybertronian mode' (or actionmaster if you're feeling saucy!) Optimus Primal which approximate what he looked before scanning his organic gorilla mode.

I plan to get both the regular and SDCC/Throne version and the regular version will most likely be modded so I can separate both figures while the Throne will remain intact as the 'Evolution'/combining gimmick is more visually palatable with a unified scheme.

Yeah, he's great, I love all the interactivity he has built into him; sometimes, you just need a fun toy to be a fun toy

I wonder if anyone would be tempted to customize the smaller Primal (from the standard retail Leader) into something that looks closer to Transmetal Primal? That would make all of BW forms represented in two figures.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:I wonder if anyone would be tempted to customize the smaller Primal (from the standard retail Leader) into something that looks closer to Transmetal Primal? That would make all of BW forms represented in two figures.

Emerje

Naw man, he just screams oilmaster, but oilmaster as an evolving duocon

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Emerje wrote:I wonder if anyone would be tempted to customize the smaller Primal (from the standard retail Leader) into something that looks closer to Transmetal Primal? That would make all of BW forms represented in two figures.

Emerje

Naw man, he just screams oilmaster, but oilmaster as an evolving duocon

Both options are cool and doable, even if the smaller Primal would need a bit more tweaking to the design, as an accurate representation of that form would require to 'reshell' Primal. The easier solution would be simply a new chest, head and altered shoulders for a rough representation.

As for Duocon/Mega Pretender Oilmaster it would be really, really cool to see and is a custom idea I've proposed before. Ideally I think the more jet-ish part would need to be scrapped and a the more mechanical parts would need some fur molded via green stuff/putty with the gorilla chest and the forearms being the best area to add fur.

Hellscream9999 wrote:

Skritz wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:There's some class meta-humor about how optimal was totally just a spiffy backpack on a gorilla, that taking said backpack off leaves the gorilla totally unfazed, while the backpack becomes even spiffier

On his new toy it's not a bug, it's a feature! You get a functionnal Optimal Optimus toy with a bonus 'cybertronian mode' (or actionmaster if you're feeling saucy!) Optimus Primal which approximate what he looked before scanning his organic gorilla mode.

I plan to get both the regular and SDCC/Throne version and the regular version will most likely be modded so I can separate both figures while the Throne will remain intact as the 'Evolution'/combining gimmick is more visually palatable with a unified scheme.

Yeah, he's great, I love all the interactivity he has built into him; sometimes, you just need a fun toy to be a fun toy

He's got, IMO, the most 'play value' of all three leader molds. He's got more modes and each component can function as a fully-formed figure

Hellscream9999 wrote:So, infinity gauntlet style, which 4 primemasters would you use if you had it? Mine are A3, Vector prime, quintus, and alchemist.

Ideally, if I had everything, I'd put the 12 normal Prime Masters in the Halo display, and the three Special Edition Prime Masters and the Thirteenth Prime Master in the Scepter.

So wait, did the waverider mold just go unused?

Hellscream9999 wrote:So wait, did the waverider mold just go unused?

Yep, and who knows what else never saw release when the line was presumably cut short.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:So wait, did the waverider mold just go unused?

Yep, and who knows what else never saw release when the line was presumably cut short.

Emerje

My guess is a 'lost' Monstructor and/or Dinoking of some kind.

Skritz wrote:

Emerje wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:So wait, did the waverider mold just go unused?

Yep, and who knows what else never saw release when the line was presumably cut short.

Emerje

My guess is a 'lost' Monstructor and/or Dinoking of some kind.

maybe we will get that unused waverider mold later like an amazon exclusive

Just checked the Throne listing on HTS, and it appears it's been taken down completely. I guess that's the final nail in the coffin for anyone hoping he might come back in stock.

Lore Keeper wrote:Just checked the Throne listing on HTS, and it appears it's been taken down completely. I guess that's the final nail in the coffin for anyone hoping he might come back in stock.

Yeah just noticed that as well. Plus its no longer in my cart. Guess its a blessing in disguise, as now for the same money, I can get retail Primal and the upgrade kit.

I've got a question for all of you who have Throne of the Primes Optimal Optimus. Look at the red knee caps on your figure. Are they two different tones of red? On mine, the "outer" sides of the knees are a darker red paint and the "inner" sides are a brighter red paint. The seam down the middle of each knee makes the color difference even more obvious. Is every sample like this, or did I get a weird paint job on mine? I've tried looking at pictures online, but I can find anything in a large enough resolution and with proper lighting to really tell.

EDIT:

I've taken a look at the listing on Hasbro Toy Shop, and in some shots, I can see the color difference, although, it looks possibly reversed, with the outer side color being brighter than the inner side color.

NO MORE HTS. Not after this whole Throne of the Primes debacle.

Mine is still in the cart. I've got a call from Hasbro saying they'd like to talk about my order, but their hours on the weekends are nonexistent, so I got to wait until Monday. There still might be hope for my order yet!

At first, I was excited about the Primes and the Pretender suits. I grabbed the first wave off HTS when they went up at 3.99, and then I waited.
And waited.

I never found wave 2 in the wild, not have I seen most of the deluxes and STILL haven't seen a Hun-Gurr.

Now the line is pretty much over, we've seen just about all the bots they've told us about. The distribution of this items just feels horrible and spotty. Maybe TRU going under had something to do with it, but I never had a lot of luck shopping there either.

I hope you guys waiting for your orders do finally get them. I'm done with this line though.

If the next line is as bad, it may just put me off collecting any more and just enjoying the collection I've got.

Wolfman Jake wrote:I've got a question for all of you who have Throne of the Primes Optimal Optimus. Look at the red knee caps on your figure. Are they two different tones of red? On mine, the "outer" sides of the knees are a darker red paint and the "inner" sides are a brighter red paint. The seam down the middle of each knee makes the color difference even more obvious. Is every sample like this, or did I get a weird paint job on mine? I've tried looking at pictures online, but I can find anything in a large enough resolution and with proper lighting to really tell.

EDIT:

I've taken a look at the listing on Hasbro Toy Shop, and in some shots, I can see the color difference, although, it looks possibly reversed, with the outer side color being brighter than the inner side color.

I think it may be an optical illusion. Mine seems to switch which side is brighter than the other depending on the lighting. Or my eyes suck, which is a definite possibility (and probably not much help here then).

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:I've got a question for all of you who have Throne of the Primes Optimal Optimus. Look at the red knee caps on your figure. Are they two different tones of red? On mine, the "outer" sides of the knees are a darker red paint and the "inner" sides are a brighter red paint. The seam down the middle of each knee makes the color difference even more obvious. Is every sample like this, or did I get a weird paint job on mine? I've tried looking at pictures online, but I can find anything in a large enough resolution and with proper lighting to really tell.

EDIT:

I've taken a look at the listing on Hasbro Toy Shop, and in some shots, I can see the color difference, although, it looks possibly reversed, with the outer side color being brighter than the inner side color.

I think it may be an optical illusion. Mine seems to switch which side is brighter than the other depending on the lighting. Or my eyes suck, which is a definite possibility (and probably not much help here then).

That does help somewhat. If it's an optical illusion, than that's fine by me. At least I know you see what I'm talking about! I haven't gotten the shading to "switch sides" yet, but the effect on the right knee is a LOT more pronounced than on the left knee for me. That does lead me to believe it's a trick of the eyes. Anyone else have any input?

Kneel Bitches


OK, prepare for a longer post touching on several subjects previously talked about.

1) I have not transformed the Throne Primal yet, but he is awesome!!! The mold works really well with the OG Primal colors, and I love the crown and the detailing put into the throne and the halo and scepter.

2) Throne Prime Masters. I am still debating this heavily, especially since I still gotta get Predaking and the wave 3 guys. I think I might be doing what Sabr said: Placing the regular 12 in the halo and the Arisen along with the 3 clear versions in the sceptor. Then the 8 armor pieces will stand around him, empty as they may be. Cause I am displaying him with the backdrop and the throne. Leads to...

3) I still plan to get the regular retail release one was well. He will be the Primal on the BW shelf, as his colors match with his body design better there. And I want to support the fan voted Prime. I will keep him named as "Optimal Optimus" and

4) The Throne version of Primal is being renamed "Maximal Prime" like I had hoped his Prime name would be. The bearer and guardian of the Primes. But

5) what to do with the empty Onyx matrix on Predaking, or even the empty shells? Well, the shells are fairly ok empty, but the Onyx spot would bug me, even if not visible. But then came an idea: we all talked about putting titan masters in the scepter, but what if we used the spare Titan Masters for other things too? Roddy Prime is by himself sitting in TR Hot Rods guns while Hot Rod doesn't use them, Thunderwing is with Nitro Zeus, and Scorponok is with Trypticon. What if the empty shells and matrix can hold those loose guys? I was actually thinking about moving one of the cons to the Preda-matrix, and maybe so could you guys. Not sure about Roddy yet, but the empty shells and matrix can make suitable places to put them. and

6) Nemesis Prime is now available for purchase by regular Amazon users, but now I don't even know if I want one anymore. I would love to complete the 3 releases and 3 black repaints, but the OP mold is kinda lame and I don't think I want to pay $50 for him, especially since hopefully another Nemesis will come down the line later and I can get him in a mold I don't buy OP in. thoughts?

EDIT

7) my PotP list is now down to: wave 3 Prime Masters; Wreck Gar, Blot, and Novastar; Punch/Counterpunch; OpOp; Predaking

This image is not mine, but like the one with BotCon Megatron, it's especially awesome for a unique reason:

https://twitter.com/fisitron472/status/1024284481606180864



It's like some kind of untold chapter of the Universe War, in which the Child of Primus Optimus Primal travels to an alternate universe where a tyrannical version of himself had conquered Cybertron either from or instead of Megatron.

Sabrblade wrote:This image is not mine, but like the one with BotCon Megatron, it's especially awesome for a unique reason:

https://twitter.com/fisitron472/status/1024284481606180864



It's like some kind of untold chapter of the Universe War, in which the Child of Primus Optimus Primal travels to an alternate universe where a tyrannical version of himself had conquered Cybertron either from or instead of Megatron.

Crazy hilarious multi-leveled fanfic grade headcanon 'what if' material: the people saying the black repaint Primal is evil have it wrong. He's not Optimal Optimus, he's BW Megatron pretending to be Optimus!

That face is too Primal to be Megatron.

Besides, kinda like the idea of "What if the radical zealot Optimus Primal actually did go too far in an alternate Beast Machines and seized Cybertron for himself?"

Sabrblade wrote:That face is too Primal to be Megatron.

Besides, kinda like the idea of "What if the radical zealot Optimus Primal actually did go too far in an alternate Beast Machines and seized Cybertron for himself?"

Hey if he could remake Primal's entire Optimal Optimus body for himself and graft his face who says that he can't just make a proper replica?

That said I could see a Shattered Glass Optimus Primal whose Optimal form has the season 1 colors (because SG has weird colors by default, so instead of going from a sane and normal colorscheme he goes from looking funky to eventually looking normal). Thus, Shattered Glass Primal goes back to Cybertron, either because he won or because he got taken back as a prisoner and escaped...but rather than turn the world into a mindless husk inhabited by drones he turns into some techno-organic robo-barbarian kingdom which he rule as king.

Headcanon is fun!

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:6) Nemesis Prime is now available for purchase by regular Amazon users, but now I don't even know if I want one anymore. I would love to complete the 3 releases and 3 black repaints, but the OP mold is kinda lame and I don't think I want to pay $50 for him, especially since hopefully another Nemesis will come down the line later and I can get him in a mold I don't buy OP in. thoughts?

I have him, and I love him, he's great in pax mode and combined mode, the pax form especially feels like it's own character with the new heads, but if you're not feeling the o/p form, I don't think I can change your mind, but the accessories do go a long way to distinguishing him, that, and the color scheme is way more cohesive, and the truck mode is cool, since you can attach the arm cannons to it and stack the swords on top, and have a total mad-max-mobile

Sabrblade wrote:This image is not mine, but like the one with BotCon Megatron, it's especially awesome for a unique reason:

https://twitter.com/fisitron472/status/1024284481606180864



It's like some kind of untold chapter of the Universe War, in which the Child of Primus Optimus Primal travels to an alternate universe where a tyrannical version of himself had conquered Cybertron either from or instead of Megatron.

Sabr, you are obsessed with the idea of this Optimal Optimus repaint "neededing" to be evil version of the character somehow.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:Kneel Bitches

D-Maximal, could you take a look at the knees on your figure? Does it look like two different tones of red on each side of the seam down the middle?

Wolfman Jake wrote:Sabr, you are obsessed with the idea of this Optimal Optimus repaint "neededing" to be evil version of the character somehow.

He just looks so darn villainous! Like a fascist tyrant version of the guy.

Plus, he looks good with Nemesis and Unicronus in completing their "Dark Prime Trinity" of Potpie Leader class black recolors.

People are weirdly obssesed with thinking it's an 'evil' version of the character...except Primal always (at least until Optimal Optimus) had a color scheme that was darker and more muted. It even carried over to Beast Machine. Only his Season 3 form is brightly colored and echoes the red and blue of Optimus Prime and even the very subtly, with reddish maroon and orange replacing the bright red

I think the whole "villain"/"tyant" vibe people get from this figure can best be explained by any of the following:

A) Noting the comparisons people have been making between this figure and its scepter with the likes of the mad tyrant Thanos and the Infinity Gauntlet.

B) Recalling this line of Optimus Prime's from the G1 episode Triple Takeover: "Thrones are for Decepticons."

C) Recalling the phrase "Absolute power corrupts absolutely", when this is a throne of ultimate godlike power seated upon by a character whose personal history shows him to be the type of person who wouldn't ordinarily take up such a position of absolute dominating power, even if he was voted into it via democratic means.

Sabrblade wrote:I think the whole "villain"/"tyant" vibe people get from this figure can best be explained by any of the following:

A) Noting the comparisons people have been making between this figure and its scepter with the likes of the mad tyrant Thanos and the Infinity Gauntlet.

B) Recalling this line of Optimus Prime's from the G1 episode Triple Takeover: "Thrones are for Decepticons."

C) Recalling the phrase "Absolute power corrupts absolutely", when this is a throne of ultimate godlike power seated upon by a character whose personal history shows him to be the type of person who wouldn't ordinarily take up such a position of absolute dominating power, even if he was voted into it via democratic means.

What's next, Geewunners who shout that he's #NotMyPrime will say he got voted in via Quintesson manipulation of the votes?

Sabrblade wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:Sabr, you are obsessed with the idea of this Optimal Optimus repaint "neededing" to be evil version of the character somehow.

He just looks so darn villainous! Like a fascist tyrant version of the guy.

Plus, he looks good with Nemesis and Unicronus in completing their "Dark Prime Trinity" of Potpie Leader class black recolors.

I was going to make him Nemesis Primal in my collection if I was going to get the regular version too. But I'm kind of just meh on the mold overall and may just skip the regular one unless I come across him on clearance.

Don't get me wrong, I'm thrilled with Throne of Primes Primal, in fact, I'm working on some head canon where he becomes a ruthless barbarian-like leader of a 3rd faction. I just find both the other leaders molds to have a more fun transformation, which is my biggest draw. At $50 for the regular release, this one is good enough.

Of course I say this not having seen the regular release in stores. I also think I hear my willpower laughing at me somewhere over there.

Sabrblade wrote:A) Noting the comparisons people have been making between this figure and its scepter with the likes of the mad tyrant Thanos and the Infinity Gauntlet.

Dang it, now you've got me trying to figure out which Transformers would represent the Avengers in this story.

Skritz wrote:What's next, Geewunners who shout that he's #NotMyPrime will say he got voted in via Quintesson manipulation of the votes?

#MakeApesGreatAgain

Emerje

TF-fan kev777 wrote:Nemesis Primal

You rang?

Despite having the Takara version preordered from Amazon JP, I still think I might get the regular deco version of Primal as well. I honestly could see my preorder getting screwed up with Amazon, so I wouldn't mind a contingency. I am already angry enough about missing the Throne because of HTS had my address wrong (I had fixed it prior to this, but things reverted for some dumbass reason). And considering the number of issue people have encountered regarding this release, I am very apprehensive about ever ordering from them again.

Has anyone with Throne of the Primes Primal figured out a way to store the crown in Ape mode? I am thoroughly enjoying this figure, but I always prefer if the accessories store nicely in both (all) modes, somehow

mordhelm wrote:Has anyone with Throne of the Primes Primal figured out a way to store the crown in Ape mode? I am thoroughly enjoying this figure, but I always prefer if the accessories store nicely in both (all) modes, somehow

I've had no luck on the crown in any mode. You can sort of just put it where the gorilla head stores in the chest but it just kind of sits there and isn't secure at all. You can put the scepter into the 5mm hole on the front of the spaceship mode, but it looks pretty dumb if you ask me. I've resigned to needing to keep them aside when he is not in the combined robot mode.