Transformers Power of the Primes Predaking Down to $139.99 on Amazon.com, Extra $20 More Off Coupon Available

Well, I went ahead and did it, 'bout the best deal we'll probably get outside of waiting for it to show up at bargain stores late next year, plus, this is likely the last legit combiner I'll probably get until monstructor or piranacon come along, and that may be never

Solid deal... likley he will show up at the bargin/closeout stores like every other Titan thus far. However id honestly expect to see some black friday/ cyber monday sales on this guy.

Like the others said this is probably about as low as we'll see it this season so I jumped on it. Added a $20 gift card to get the set for $106 and some change!

Emerje

Finally jumped.

Oooh, seeing these pics is making me want him more...

But even if I had the money, he's on the back burner for me for two reasons. A. Titans Return Trypticon and Generations Metroplex are higher-priority and B. His being Titan-class means he's too big to go with the CW-style combiners. Sure, the original Predaking toy was comparatively towering to the other G1 combiner toys, but that's because their individual members were largely midgets among the G1 toys (especially movie-onward, but even pre-movie characters tended to be bigger - just compare Breakdown to Sideswipe and Sunstreaker!) while the individual Predacons were more in scale (such as it was).
He's definitely awesome though, no doubts about that.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Can Onyx Prime be integrated with Preddy in any way? Or was he just packed with him solely as an exclusive to help sales among the Prime Masters collectors?

He functions as a Matrix Core for Predaking's Onyx Matrix. He's set in a Matrix holder (same sculpt as Optimus and Rodimus Prime's) which is placed in a special area behind Razorclaw's lion head.

Just Razorclaw? So he is technically a "Prime" then? Having a Matrix chamber that is. The backpack option and Volcanicus' chest mouth in my opinion don't count.

Who knows, Hasbro hasn't said anything about that. As a torso, Razorclaw bucks the norm by having a Matrix chamber instead of a regular spot for an Enigma (like Grimlock's mouth, Hun-Gurr's "backpack"/Abominus' chest and Starscream's nosecone), but the Onyx Matrix seems to fill a similar role for Predaking and by extension, all Beast Combiners given Onyx's status.

I kinda wish they'd given him an enigma with Animatron's symbol on it. That would have been a perfect fit IMO.

The current deal is good, not quite as sweet as the one I scored a few weeks ago, but still nice. I failed to report that, like most who purchased PotP Predaking, he is much more impressive in-hand than on any video or pics I've seen. I'm glad I have him.

I too lament, a little that Predaking and Devastator are not scaled to be roughly the same size as other CW/UW/PotP Combiners, but if next years Omega Supreme is also 18 inches tall (or slightly taller, but not 24 inches like the other two city bots), then I can partly excuse it.

Legends EX Metroplex and Grand Max are the big ticket items on my bucket list, with Big Powered and Greatshot being slightly less expensive. Sometimes price and availability dictate what I get next, not necessarily what I want the most.

o.supreme wrote:The current deal is good, not quite as sweet as the one I scored a few weeks ago, but still nice. I failed to report that, like most who purchased PotP Predaking, he is much more impressive in-hand than on any video or pics I've seen. I'm glad I have him.

I too lament, a little that Predaking and Devastator are not scaled to be roughly the same size as other CW/UW/PotP Combiners, but if next years Omega Supreme is also 18 inches tall (or slightly taller, but not 24 inches like the other two city bots), then I can partly excuse it.

Legends EX Metroplex and Grand Max are the big ticket items on my bucket list, with Big Powered and Greatshot being slightly less expensive. Sometimes price and availability dictate what I get next, not necessarily what I want the most.

Omega Supreme probably will be more in that height range, considering.

Sabrblade wrote:In all honesty, would people have minded so much if the standard size for Titan class had been the Devastator/Predaking height in the first place, rather than the 2+ feet tall height that Metroplex only had because of a shallow desire to make him taller than G1 Fort Max no matter what (a goal that was shortly undone when Fort Max himself took back the title of "tallest TF toy ever" when he got his own slightly-taller-than-Metroplex Titan figure)?

It wasn't just a shallow desire to make him taller than the original Fort Max, though. It was also about giving him something of the impressive size he has in fiction and also making him better able to act as a dollhouse/base for TFs bigger than the likes of the original Stunticon and Aerialbot toys. After all, "Dollhouse/base for other Transformers" is one of the main points of the cityformers, and of the original G1 cityformer molds only Fort Max is big enough to even remotely manage that for modern TFs larger than Legends-class.

o.supreme wrote:The current deal is good, not quite as sweet as the one I scored a few weeks ago, but still nice.

What was the deal a few weeks ago?

Got my predaking today, and the combined mode is pretty cool, not sure why everyone is giving ironhide grief for having a cavity in his back when predakings actual abdomen is entirely empty, but whatever

The individual bots are alright, no one really stands out as being really great, but I think that that's a problem this whole set has, is a feeling of being really bland and diluted. This is the most watered-down predaking we could have ever gotten... Which is a shame cuz his design is all about dramatic flair, from the giant knuckle spikes to the samurai fanged mouth plate, to the giant wings and lion chest... but he doesn't have any of that, which basically robs him of most of his identity. Even the individual bots are all basic geometry as far as headsculpts go, but, once assembled, he's pretty great, if not a little boring

Hellscream9999 wrote:Got my predaking today, and the combined mode is pretty cool, not sure why everyone is giving ironhide grief for having a cavity in his back when predakings actual abdomen is entirely empty, but whatever

The individual bots are alright, no one really stands out as being really great, but I think that that's a problem this whole set has, is a feeling of being really bland and diluted. This is the most watered-down predaking we could have ever gotten... Which is a shame cuz his design is all about dramatic flair, from the giant knuckle spikes to the samurai fanged mouth plate, to the giant wings and lion chest... but he doesn't have any of that, which basically robs him of most of his identity. Even the individual bots are all basic geometry as far as headsculpts go, but, once assembled, he's pretty great, if not a little boring

Uh.. the smeg are you talking about?
The only one of those things you mentioned that's missing here is the knuckle spikes. And his wings are in fact better at looking giant on him than the original toy's.

As for your comment on the headsculpts, by that logic MOST Transformer headsculpts are "all basic geometry". Looking at the photos, they're reasonably detailed in sculpt and accurate to the characters, so... *shrug*

Their beast modes don't gain too much in articulation compared to G1, true. And that much is a shame. But at least unlike Combiner Wars Devastator nobody wound up without elbows in robot mode.

Moving on to the positives, headstrong is great in bot mode, and I kinda came to a zen understanding with the beast mode kibble, that rhino's and oxen have a bulkier body than other mammals, so it kinda works, and since they can't really pose in beast mode (this killed rampage for me), I guess it doesn't matter... divebomb never doesn't look like a beached whale though his bot mode is awesome and looks decently intimidating standing up in beast mode. The combined mode is a beast of course, can't fault it other than what I've already said, it can throw some serious poses. And I appreciated the turning-inside-out transformations for a lot of the figures, it was different and clever.

Hellscream9999 wrote:Got my predaking today, and the combined mode is pretty cool, not sure why everyone is giving ironhide grief for having a cavity in his back when predakings actual abdomen is entirely empty, but whatever

We got our fill of complaining about Predaking's open box abdomen back when it was first revealed. It's still a bummer, but I can see why it was done that way the way it all folds out and it gives somewhere to tuck Razorclaw's legs into. It's somehow both annoying and clever at the same time. Ironhide, on the other hand, I'm not convinced yet that it was done as a necessary part of the transformation and appears to be just a cost cutting procedure.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Got my predaking today, and the combined mode is pretty cool, not sure why everyone is giving ironhide grief for having a cavity in his back when predakings actual abdomen is entirely empty, but whatever

We got our fill of complaining about Predaking's open box abdomen back when it was first revealed. It's still a bummer, but I can see why it was done that way the way it all folds out and it gives somewhere to tuck Razorclaw's legs into. It's somehow both annoying and clever at the same time. Ironhide, on the other hand, I'm not convinced yet that it was done as a necessary part of the transformation and appears to be just a cost cutting procedure.

Emerje

Yeah, they did some extremely clever things with the transformations, and I have to say, rampages beast mode head is sublime

Hellscream9999 wrote:not sure why everyone is giving ironhide grief for having a cavity in his back when predakings actual abdomen is entirely empty, but whatever

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Uh.. the smeg are you talking about?

Above the butt and below the back:

Sabrblade, I was talking about this:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Which is a shame cuz his design is all about dramatic flair, from the giant knuckle spikes to the samurai fanged mouth plate, to the giant wings and lion chest... but he doesn't have any of that

And actually looking at PotP Predaking, the only part of that claim that's true is that he's missing the knuckle spikes.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Sabrblade, I was talking about this:

Hellscream9999 wrote:Which is a shame cuz his design is all about dramatic flair, from the giant knuckle spikes to the samurai fanged mouth plate, to the giant wings and lion chest... but he doesn't have any of that

And actually looking at PotP Predaking, the only part of that claim that's true is that he's missing the knuckle spikes.

Ah, I see.

megatronus wrote:

o.supreme wrote:The current deal is good, not quite as sweet as the one I scored a few weeks ago, but still nice.

What was the deal a few weeks ago?

Click on my news credit and see the sop entry. Unfortunately it was for one day only, but I'm sure with the holiday shopping coming, there will no doubt be even larger discounts on Predaking.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Oooh, seeing these pics is making me want him more...

But even if I had the money, he's on the back burner for me for two reasons. A. Titans Return Trypticon and Generations Metroplex are higher-priority and B. His being Titan-class means he's too big to go with the CW-style combiners. Sure, the original Predaking toy was comparatively towering to the other G1 combiner toys, but that's because their individual members were largely midgets among the G1 toys (especially movie-onward, but even pre-movie characters tended to be bigger - just compare Breakdown to Sideswipe and Sunstreaker!) while the individual Predacons were more in scale (such as it was).
He's definitely awesome though, no doubts about that.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Rodimus Prime wrote:Can Onyx Prime be integrated with Preddy in any way? Or was he just packed with him solely as an exclusive to help sales among the Prime Masters collectors?

He functions as a Matrix Core for Predaking's Onyx Matrix. He's set in a Matrix holder (same sculpt as Optimus and Rodimus Prime's) which is placed in a special area behind Razorclaw's lion head.

Just Razorclaw? So he is technically a "Prime" then? Having a Matrix chamber that is. The backpack option and Volcanicus' chest mouth in my opinion don't count.

Who knows, Hasbro hasn't said anything about that. As a torso, Razorclaw bucks the norm by having a Matrix chamber instead of a regular spot for an Enigma (like Grimlock's mouth, Hun-Gurr's "backpack"/Abominus' chest and Starscream's nosecone), but the Onyx Matrix seems to fill a similar role for Predaking and by extension, all Beast Combiners given Onyx's status.

I kinda wish they'd given him an enigma with Animatron's symbol on it. That would have been a perfect fit IMO.

From everything I've ever read on Predaking, Takara brought in a guest designer who was given free rein to create. That's why the Predacons don't do Scramble City and the figure is so much bigger. If anything POTP Predaking is the only one that makes sense to be Titan Class.

chuckdawg1999 wrote: If anything POTP Predaking is the only one that makes sense to be Titan Class.

Disagree. Since Omega Supreme is Devastator's rival, a Titan Omega (which none of us would have accepted less of) would need a Titan Devastator. Plus all constructicons should be voyager sized (decepticons are all around the same height for the most part) so we needed bigger individual bots which resulted in a Titan Devy.

That and Devastator most often fought against Omega Supreme and regular Autobots, rather than in combiner-on-combiner battles. It would be nice to also have a Supreme-class version for the sake of having said battles though (because using Titan Devy would result in "Bruticus devastate Devastator": The Outtakes). With Predaking you at least have the G1 toy, limited though it is (I at least think it'd be the right size)

One could make the argument that Omega Supreme, Devastator, and Predaking all ought to be at or near to the same height as the other Combiners, given how all three were roughly similar in height to said other Combiners back in the cartoon, as shown by Omega Supreme helping Superion fight Menasor, Bruticus beating Devastator (while Menasor beat Bruticus), and Predaking's numerous fights against Raiden (in The Headmasters) who himself was of similar height to all the other Combiners, even teaming up with Defensor and Computron once to destroy the Decepticons' Earth base, and even once fighting Bruticus.

Man, seeing all those pics makes me happy . I have always split on this. Ideally, I'd have wanted a Devastator, Predaking, and Omega Supreme that scale with the other CW Combiners. Even further, it would have been nice if somehow Hasbro could have made Predaking match the CW system of all the others, same with Dev, except Hook & Long Haul of course would both be deluxes and would not have cross-compatibility with all the others.

However, I am OK with what we have/what we are getting. Dev and Omega are classic Rivals, and so shall they be again. Hasbro's choice to make PotP Predaking a Titan Class toy makes little sense fictionally, or thematically, but it does make for one heck of a cool toy.

Additionally problematic now however is Predaking's rivalry with Sky Lynx. In fiction, they were *roughly* the same size. Now Skylynx is the same size as just One Predacon. , even the mighty Lynx Master/Sky Reign pales in comparison .

Still, if we look beyond fiction, I personally, always wanted to see a battle between Omega Supreme & Predaking. It never really happened, in fact they never met on the battlefield aside from TF vs GIJoe The Art of War, and that was...a triple team off panel battle (figures they skip the best part... )

Of course you all know my greatest passion is combiners and Giant Transformers, so I can talk about this all day

Thanks to a tip off from fellow Seibertron user, nycPrime, has alerted us to a Cyber Monday deal from Amazon.com! Currently (and only for as long as Monday and stocks last), you can grab Power of the Primes Titan Class Predaking for $95.99! This price is before shipping and is open to buyers from outside the US, but there is a greater shipping cost and import fees may apply.









Remember this deal ends at 23:59 Monday (or 11:59 pm Monday) so grab it quick if you want it!

Will you be jumping on on Predaking? Let us know in the Energon Pub and stay tuned to Seibertron for all the latest news and reviews.

Anyone else think that this will be even lower eventually? The waiting game worked for Metro, Fort Max and Trypticon, but I got burned on Devastator.

grecofabulous wrote:Anyone else think that this will be even lower eventually? The waiting game worked for Metro, Fort Max and Trypticon, but I got burned on Devastator.

It worked for Metroplex?! That's the one Titan (until now) that never even showed up in my state AND THEN jumped up in price. I only JUST got Metroplex a few weeks ago from someone that was selling at a reasonable price.

Anyhow. I got this. First time I haven't paid full retail for a Titan!

Caved and bought him. Had a discount that brought him down to $85.99 shipped.

They have PotP Nemesis Prime discounted to $33, but having spent so much today...

Just a question, it was said predaking could hold both the enigma of combination and the matrix of leadership. How?

william-james88 wrote:Just a question, it was said predaking could hold both the enigma of combination and the matrix of leadership. How?

Me thinks it's simply a misunderstanding, thanks to the technical difference between "and" and "or" when summing up things; Prime Masters, Enigmas and Matrix Cores are fully interchangeable, but AFAIK Predaking can't hold them all at once.

And I finally got Predaking for under $100. Yay

Wow, mine arrived before I left for work this morning.

Hope you all enjoy your predakings! I really like his combined mode

Thanks to Poweredconvoy over at TFW2005, we have some new in hand images of the China Exclusive Power of the Primes Predaking Sword!

As you may remember, this sword was an exclusive offered on Single's Day in China, which was November 11 and is the equivalent of Black Friday. The sword was only available with the purchase of a full Predaking figure on Single's Day.

Poweredconvoy reports that the sword holds the unique function of splitting apart and becoming a pen in addition to being the might Beast Combiners's sword. What is also noted is that the sword is made of a not overly impressive soft plastic that is also slightly off color from Predaking himself, a minor disappointment after the promo images showed the colors being in shade with each other.

Check out his photos below, and let us know what you think of this sword in the comments section below!

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:What is also noted is that the sword is made of a not overly impressive soft plastic that is also slightly off color from Predaking himself, a minor disappointment after the promo images showed the colors being in shade with each other.

Uh, it's the same unmatched color it was in the promo pic which really turned me off the first time we saw it.



The sword reminds me of the ones that came with those Optimus Prime KOs you could find at Big Lots.



Emerje

I would guess the soft plastic is to accommodate the pen gimmick.

If they were going with soft plastic they could have made it dark gold with no trouble. Heck, even harder plastic could pull it off if it was the right type of gold.

It may not be perfect, but IMO it's nice for a free extra, the colors are close enough to look okay, and even if you don't like it for Predaking, it could easily be sufficient for another combiner or large transformer in need of a weapon, or as an oversized blade for someone smaller. I kinda hope these become easily available so I can have one if/when I'm able to buy myself a Predaking.

Does it look like a Nerf sword to anyone else?

Why is it also a writing pen?

Wolfman Jake wrote:Why is it also a writing pen?

The pen is mightier!

Sabrblade wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:Why is it also a writing pen?

The pen is mightier!

If that's the case, I'm just going to equip my Predaking with a Bic.

Not my pic:

Sabrblade wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:Why is it also a writing pen?

The pen is mightier!

There is a SNL "Celebrity Jeopardy" Joke in there, that isn't appropriate for this forum, but if you are a fan of that sort of thing, google it.

Also...Predaking's a BIG BOT and deserves a BIG pen...

Got mine today. Felt silly when I realized none of the photos I remember seeing properly extended his arms. The change in articulation and proportions improves him greatly.

Caelus wrote:Got mine today. Felt silly when I realized none of the photos I remember seeing properly extended his arms. The change in articulation and proportions improves him greatly.

Is that actually in the instructions?

No the instructions all show that the *official* way, is the short arm way, which is kind of silly.

o.supreme wrote:No the instructions all show that the *official* way, is the short arm way, which is kind of silly.

Indeed. I think with the arms unextended the wrists hold together more securely, but the tradeoff is definitely worth it IMO.

Sabrblade wrote:Not my pic:

Whoever's pic it is... That is awesome, and I never expected to see that turn up as the head

o.supreme wrote:No the instructions all show that the *official* way, is the short arm way, which is kind of silly.

I didn't look at the instructions and just assumed the arms extended was correct based on the smaller combiners.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

o.supreme wrote:No the instructions all show that the *official* way, is the short arm way, which is kind of silly.

I didn't look at the instructions and just assumed the arms extended was correct based on the smaller combiners.

Emerje

Same.

damn so big! Almost worth getting a second Predaking to get that sword!!

william-james88 wrote:

Emerje wrote:

o.supreme wrote:No the instructions all show that the *official* way, is the short arm way, which is kind of silly.

I didn't look at the instructions and just assumed the arms extended was correct based on the smaller combiners.

Emerje

Same.

It is accurate to the original toy, in both instances: Scramble City arms have them extended, but Predaking has them retracted.