Transformers Power of the Primes Inferno Artwork Revealed

Isn't it weird that he has Onslaught's shoulders and what looks like a unique chest to me in the artwork but the actual toy is just a red Hot Spot with a different head. I still want it though.

Still has Onslaught's shoulders and chest piece. We can haz combined mode nao?

to bad inferno doesnt get his own set of limbs so he has to share with Elita-1

Wolfman Jake wrote:In the interest of making sure the topic doesn't stray away from Power of the Primes, does anyone else think that the upcoming PotP Inferno makes a great stand-in for G1 Hosehead/Cab? I'd want to swap the head out, preferably for the Titanmaster Cab mentioned above from the God Girnai giftset, but it would require some major modifications to make the Headmaster gimmick really work well in robot mode. I assume Lug/Cab can just hang out in the ladder bucket it vehicle mode.

That's... actually not a bad idea.

Emerje

I wish it just came with the hotspot head and a nice G2 sign.

Shapeways can you hoot it up?

Emerje wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:In the interest of making sure the topic doesn't stray away from Power of the Primes, does anyone else think that the upcoming PotP Inferno makes a great stand-in for G1 Hosehead/Cab? I'd want to swap the head out, preferably for the Titanmaster Cab mentioned above from the God Girnai giftset, but it would require some major modifications to make the Headmaster gimmick really work well in robot mode. I assume Lug/Cab can just hang out in the ladder bucket it vehicle mode.

That's... actually not a bad idea.

Emerje

Well what about this.
Could someone one shapeways make a new neck plate so you could have Inferno's head on one side, and a Titan Master port for Cab on the other?

Should have made Inferno a new mold and just given us the G2 Protectobots

I will be picking this up. I just hope there also will be a Sideswipe. He would be Inferno's limb along with Ironhide and maybe Smokescreen and Blades.

IS IT JUST ME?

Doesnt seem is half-assing the whole POTP line?

* shortage of 'Limb-bots"
* Deluxes get a single weapon. ie, Dinos get a sword OR gun, etc...
* Despite numerous examples of what fans come to expect of our getalts (3rd party, Combiner Wars, etc...) we still get weak saue & incopleteness.
* only 4 waves?!

i looks or feels like is just trying to hurry it along,
as if
THEY have become bored
and just cant wait to puke it out ad move on.

i am sorely disappointed.

Z3ROhour wrote:IS IT JUST ME?

Doesnt seem is half-assing the whole POTP line?

* shortage of 'Limb-bots"
* Deluxes get a single weapon. ie, Dinos get a sword OR gun, etc...
* Despite numerous examples of what fans come to expect of our getalts (3rd party, Combiner Wars, etc...) we still get weak saue & incopleteness.
* only 4 waves?!

You forget that CW deluxes only came with one dedicated weapon. The 2nd was the HFG which was just a way to give each figure the Hand/Foot for their limb mode. While (in my Opinion) the prime armour/combiner hands are less 'multi-faceted' than the HFG's, they are ultimately still only there to give the limb modes a hand/fist.

Persoinally I like to use the prime armours as shields or power fists.

Z3ROhour wrote:IS IT JUST ME?

Doesnt seem is half-assing the whole POTP line?

* shortage of 'Limb-bots"
* Deluxes get a single weapon. ie, Dinos get a sword OR gun, etc...
* Despite numerous examples of what fans come to expect of our getalts (3rd party, Combiner Wars, etc...) we still get weak saue & incopleteness.
* only 4 waves?!

i looks or feels like is just trying to hurry it along,
as if
THEY have become bored
and just cant wait to puke it out ad move on.

i am sorely disappointed.

Given how quicly they announced it and had a fan poll, it seems they are already looking at War for Cybertron. I'm not annoyed with the Deluxes have 1 weapon, I'm more annoyed with the Voyagers have no weapons, where's Grimlock's sword?

Sabrblade wrote:

Teknomage wrote:Any idea if they will release that Optimus Primal in the red and blue scheme like they did for beast wars.

That was in Beast Machines.

And, no, not in Power of the Primes, at least.

Frankly, I don't expect to see this mold used by Hasbro again anytime soon since the current brand team doesn't seem to really care for Beast Wars, and the only real reason that they made this figure at all was because the character won the fan poll.

Don't you think they would do some kind of redeco just to squeeze a few more bucks out of the mold? Seems like a waste from a business standpoint.

RiddlerJ wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Teknomage wrote:Any idea if they will release that Optimus Primal in the red and blue scheme like they did for beast wars.

That was in Beast Machines.

And, no, not in Power of the Primes, at least.

Frankly, I don't expect to see this mold used by Hasbro again anytime soon since the current brand team doesn't seem to really care for Beast Wars, and the only real reason that they made this figure at all was because the character won the fan poll.

Don't you think they would do some kind of redeco just to squeeze a few more bucks out of the mold? Seems like a waste from a business standpoint.

Well, Orion/Optimus isn't getting reused either.

Skritz wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Teknomage wrote:Any idea if they will release that Optimus Primal in the red and blue scheme like they did for beast wars.

That was in Beast Machines.

And, no, not in Power of the Primes, at least.

Frankly, I don't expect to see this mold used by Hasbro again anytime soon since the current brand team doesn't seem to really care for Beast Wars, and the only real reason that they made this figure at all was because the character won the fan poll.

Don't you think they would do some kind of redeco just to squeeze a few more bucks out of the mold? Seems like a waste from a business standpoint.

Well, Orion/Optimus isn't getting reused either.

You'd better believe there will be a "Nemesis Prime" repaint of PotP Optimus Prime at some point in the future, even if it's just a Takara Tomy exclusive figure. Japan can't say no to a black repaint of an Optimus Prime mold.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Skritz wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Teknomage wrote:Any idea if they will release that Optimus Primal in the red and blue scheme like they did for beast wars.

That was in Beast Machines.

And, no, not in Power of the Primes, at least.

Frankly, I don't expect to see this mold used by Hasbro again anytime soon since the current brand team doesn't seem to really care for Beast Wars, and the only real reason that they made this figure at all was because the character won the fan poll.

Don't you think they would do some kind of redeco just to squeeze a few more bucks out of the mold? Seems like a waste from a business standpoint.

Well, Orion/Optimus isn't getting reused either.

You'd better believe there will be a "Nemesis Prime" repaint of PotP Optimus Prime at some point in the future, even if it's just a Takara Tomy exclusive figure. Japan can't say no to a black repaint of an Optimus Prime mold.

Nah, Rodimus Unicronus will fit that niche rather nicely.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Skritz wrote:

RiddlerJ wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Teknomage wrote:Any idea if they will release that Optimus Primal in the red and blue scheme like they did for beast wars.

That was in Beast Machines.

And, no, not in Power of the Primes, at least.

Frankly, I don't expect to see this mold used by Hasbro again anytime soon since the current brand team doesn't seem to really care for Beast Wars, and the only real reason that they made this figure at all was because the character won the fan poll.

Don't you think they would do some kind of redeco just to squeeze a few more bucks out of the mold? Seems like a waste from a business standpoint.

Well, Orion/Optimus isn't getting reused either.

You'd better believe there will be a "Nemesis Prime" repaint of PotP Optimus Prime at some point in the future, even if it's just a Takara Tomy exclusive figure. Japan can't say no to a black repaint of an Optimus Prime mold.

Nah, Rodimus Unicronus will fit that niche rather nicely.

Why have one when you can have both? Believe me, Takara won't disappoint. Also, I wouldn't put it past Hasbro to do one as an SDCC exclusive, if they again don't do a special edition of the year's Titan Class figure.

Wolfman Jake wrote:Why have one when you can have both? Believe me, Takara won't disappoint. Also, I wouldn't put it past Hasbro to do one as an SDCC exclusive, if they again don't do a special edition of the year's Titan Class figure.

Black "Nemesis Prime" or "Scourge" repaints are another thing that came to an end at Hasbro when Warden took over. Yeah, we got one last year at SDCC, but that was only because their deal with Primitive Skate just happened to result in a black Prime. I think the last time we got a real one was the 2014 Legends figure which was probably already planned before he joined despite being a line ending figure (being a simple repaint in a case with another simple repaint). Nemesis Prime and Primal Prime seem pretty unlikely. I'd sooner believe we'll get a metallic Predaking with sword.

Emerje

What would warden hate about nemesis prime though? Was it that he didn't like a lazy repaint of prime? That he didn't exist in g1? (if I'm right was the first nemesis prime scourge in car robots?) Not liking beast characters is one thing since that's still an issue with the fan base at times, with its detractors being much louder than others. But this seems like hating a repaint for little reason

ZeroWolf wrote:What would warden hate about nemesis prime though? Was it that he didn't like a lazy repaint of prime? That he didn't exist in g1? (if I'm right was the first nemesis prime scourge in car robots?) Not liking beast characters is one thing since that's still an issue with the fan base at times, with its detractors being much louder than others. But this seems like hating a repaint for little reason

Who knows? It's been observed for a while now that there have been plenty of missed opportunities to black repaints that have been missed by Hasbro but still fully taken advantage of by Takara Tomy. There was a time when both companies were doing them in different ways, but now it's all TT. Either Warden doesn't like them or they're just content with us importing from TT. This is the same guy who's official stance on not celebrating Beast War's 20th anniversary was because TT was celebrating it and Hasbro didn't have to celebrate an anniversary on the anniversary (two years later they still haven't celebrated it). That was when we first realized Warden didn't like Beast Wars.

Emerje

ZeroWolf wrote:(if I'm right was the first nemesis prime scourge in car robots?)

The first evil black Optimus redeco ever was BotCon 1996 Onyx Primal, while the first one to appear in fiction (as evil, since Onyx was rewritten as a Maximal when he finally appeared in fiction) was Copy Convoy from Beast Wars Second.

Wolfman Jake wrote:Why have one when you can have both? Believe me, Takara won't disappoint. Also, I wouldn't put it past Hasbro to do one as an SDCC exclusive, if they again don't do a special edition of the year's Titan Class figure.

Ooooooooh. A chromed out PotP Primal would be nice. Just like the original.

Emerje wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:What would warden hate about nemesis prime though? Was it that he didn't like a lazy repaint of prime? That he didn't exist in g1? (if I'm right was the first nemesis prime scourge in car robots?) Not liking beast characters is one thing since that's still an issue with the fan base at times, with its detractors being much louder than others. But this seems like hating a repaint for little reason

Who knows? It's been observed for a while now that there have been plenty of missed opportunities to black repaints that have been missed by Hasbro but still fully taken advantage of by Takara Tomy. There was a time when both companies were doing them in different ways, but now it's all TT. Either Warden doesn't like them or they're just content with us importing from TT. This is the same guy who's official stance on not celebrating Beast War's 20th anniversary was because TT was celebrating it and Hasbro didn't have to celebrate an anniversary on the anniversary (two years later they still haven't celebrated it). That was when we first realized Warden didn't like Beast Wars.

Emerje

Well he dislikes Beast Wars, guy can't be all bad, it was a terrible toy line with a mediocre cartoon show

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Nah, Rodimus Unicronus will fit that niche rather nicely.

I thought was not releasing RU ?

Volcanicus is interesting. Not decided yet on if I'm gonna display in combined form or not. The individual bots are all pretty great.

o.supreme wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Nah, Rodimus Unicronus will fit that niche rather nicely.

I thought was not releasing RU ?

Not in the main line, but as a potantial exclusive he fits the "evil black redeco" bill almost perfectly.

Emerje wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:What would warden hate about nemesis prime though? Was it that he didn't like a lazy repaint of prime? That he didn't exist in g1? (if I'm right was the first nemesis prime scourge in car robots?) Not liking beast characters is one thing since that's still an issue with the fan base at times, with its detractors being much louder than others. But this seems like hating a repaint for little reason

Who knows? It's been observed for a while now that there have been plenty of missed opportunities to black repaints that have been missed by Hasbro but still fully taken advantage of by Takara Tomy. There was a time when both companies were doing them in different ways, but now it's all TT. Either Warden doesn't like them or they're just content with us importing from TT. This is the same guy who's official stance on not celebrating Beast War's 20th anniversary was because TT was celebrating it and Hasbro didn't have to celebrate an anniversary on the anniversary (two years later they still haven't celebrated it). That was when we first realized Warden didn't like Beast Wars.

Emerje

Who says it has to be a black repaint?

Primal Prime repainted into...Leader class Beastbox!

More likely a very lazy mans Apeface repaint.

What was that rumour about Primal and Megatron being used as Apeface and Snapdragon?

ThunderThruster wrote:What was that rumour about Primal and Megatron being used as Apeface and Snapdragon?

It was false.

RiddlerJ wrote:

Emerje wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:What would warden hate about nemesis prime though? Was it that he didn't like a lazy repaint of prime? That he didn't exist in g1? (if I'm right was the first nemesis prime scourge in car robots?) Not liking beast characters is one thing since that's still an issue with the fan base at times, with its detractors being much louder than others. But this seems like hating a repaint for little reason

Who knows? It's been observed for a while now that there have been plenty of missed opportunities to black repaints that have been missed by Hasbro but still fully taken advantage of by Takara Tomy. There was a time when both companies were doing them in different ways, but now it's all TT. Either Warden doesn't like them or they're just content with us importing from TT. This is the same guy who's official stance on not celebrating Beast War's 20th anniversary was because TT was celebrating it and Hasbro didn't have to celebrate an anniversary on the anniversary (two years later they still haven't celebrated it). That was when we first realized Warden didn't like Beast Wars.

Emerje

Who says it has to be a black repaint?

Primal Prime repainted into...Leader class Beastbox!

I have a better idea via a descendant:



Playskool Big Adventures Gorillabot aka Go-Bots Beast-Bot.

^ I'd much rather any new toy of Beast-Bot be a new mold that attempts to utilize his ability to turn into any animal by having as many animal altmodes (namely gorilla, wildcat, and raptor) as possible.[/pipedream]

Sabrblade wrote:^ I'd much rather any new toy of Beast-Bot be a new mold that attempts to utilize his ability to turn into any animal by having as many animal altmodes (namely gorilla, wildcat, and raptor) as possible.[/pipedream]

Good luck hoping for that when we can't even get a new Beast Wars Megatron!

That said, an all-beast triple/quad/penta/hexa-changer would be one crazy figure. Like an RiD 2001 Megatron on acid.

Skritz wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:^ I'd much rather any new toy of Beast-Bot be a new mold that attempts to utilize his ability to turn into any animal by having as many animal altmodes (namely gorilla, wildcat, and raptor) as possible.[/pipedream]

Good luck hoping for that when we can't even get a new Beast Wars Megatron!

That said, an all-beast triple/quad/penta/hexa-changer would be one crazy figure. Like an RiD 2001 Megatron on acid.

Hence the pipe dream tag I included.

OK, finally found a decent way to discern whether or not Elita-1 is misassembled upon sighting her: the ridge on the hinge of the foot piece divides it into a narrow and wide side. The wide side is supposed to be on the outside of the leg.

And no, the Elita-1 I spotted was indeed misassembled.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Nah, Rodimus Unicronus will fit that niche rather nicely.

I thought was not releasing RU ?

Not in the main line, but as a potantial exclusive he fits the "evil black redeco" bill almost perfectly.

There is no doubt in my mind that the Prime mold someday is used for a proper Super Ginrai.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Nah, Rodimus Unicronus will fit that niche rather nicely.

I thought was not releasing RU ?

Not in the main line, but as a potantial exclusive he fits the "evil black redeco" bill almost perfectly.

There is no doubt in my mind that the Prime mold someday is used for a proper Super Ginrai.

That would take some retooling to get it to look right I can see it in the transformation scheme though. Also does that mean takara would have to make another god bomber?

ZeroWolf wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Nah, Rodimus Unicronus will fit that niche rather nicely.

I thought was not releasing RU ?

Not in the main line, but as a potantial exclusive he fits the "evil black redeco" bill almost perfectly.

There is no doubt in my mind that the Prime mold someday is used for a proper Super Ginrai.

That would take some retooling to get it to look right I can see it in the transformation scheme though. Also does that mean takara would have to make another god bomber?

I wouldn't mind another Motormaster. One that actually transformed with his trailer.


And now, repaint theater:

CW Dragstrip as Slapdash
CW Swindle as Joyride and Sureshot
CW Afterbreakr as Iguanus
CW Strafe as Bugly
PotP Snarl as Slugfest
CW Bombshell as Barrage (seriously, what's taking so long?)
TR Kickback as Ransack

Z3ROhour wrote:* only 4 waves?!

So I've seen the leaks of the 4 waves, and I've seen off-hand references to there being only 4 waves. I haven't seen a primary source saying there's only 4 waves.

Does anyone have a source on this?

Pretty ridiculous to create a backstory where there are 13 Primes, force all continuities into this backstory, create a toyline referencing this backstory directly, and releasing...8(?) Primes.

I'd like to see a full set of limbs for Elita-1 too.

The leak from last July showed off 3 full waves. There was a 4th deluxe wave shown (with new Deluxe Novastar, and 3 repack figures), and nothing else. Based on this, and the confirmation at NYTF that PotP will end in 2018 is where speculation that there are only 4 waves is coming from. But at the same time the development team said there is *more to come*.

A 9th PM (Onyx), was revealed as an exclusive to come with the Predaking set this Summer, though it has no Prime Armor. Whether or not a single release Onyx is in the plan, as well as the remaining 3 PM's, or anything else for that matter is currently unknown.

We also know of a Deluxe Wreck-Gar coming to Walgreens. Shuttle Blast-Off, Repugnus, and Counterpunch being released through HTS (assumed to be *May-Mayhem, but not confirmed yet)...after that, there is SDCC in July. Since there is no Botcon or Hascon, I assume this will be the next big news outlet, unless occasional leaks come out from other sources.

Again I'm assuming here, but Blast-Off holds no interest to me since I have the UW one (even though the head defect will most likely be fixed). Counterpunch will likely be the same deco as the TFCC one. If its completely new however, I may consider it. Repugnus is the one I'm most curious about since we know so little about it. A case could be argued either way that is could be a TR holdover, or a new PotP deluxe...hopefully we get some news soon either way.

So as far as potential exclusives, particularly items we have gotten leaked info for or have had other versions of (Takara but not Hasbro for instance), here is what we possibly could get for exclusives:

Blast Off - Leaked, Takara
Repugnus - Leaked
Counterpunch - Leaked, FunPub
Wreck-Gar - Leaked

4-Blade Vortex - Takara
Ratchet - Takara, BotCon
Medix - BotCon

Personally I think the 4 that are leaked are plenty of exclusives to get for this round, as far as individual released. My preference is to keep an even number of combiner limbs. More specifically, make the Decepticons evenly divisible by 4, and the Autobots can have 2 leftovers (God Bomber feet if need be).

I should add, here are how my leftover PotP Combiners are shaping up if the leaks are accurate:

Blast Off goes to Bruticus. Jet Blast Off (aka Take Off) goes with Mega Starscream.

Elita-Inf1nite gets Rook, Alpha Bravo, Moonracer, Novastar.

Firestormer gets Jazz, Wreck-Gar, Repugnus (assuming he's a retool of Rippersnapper), and Counterpunch.

Now all I need to do is track down a Grand Galvatron (or at least the limb bots) that isn't expensive to complete my Combiner groups.

I seriously dout we will see those last 3. And as for the *leaks*, they don't come from they come from other sources.

I like you however would very much like to have my combiners complete. The only problem is, based on the previous line all parties combined (CW, UW, Club & Con exclusives). I already have *perfect symmetry* for all of those. The new Blastoff is for all intents and purposes is a repeat for me. Counterpunch is again unknown. If it is the same mold as TFCC, then I'll have determined it to be a repeat. Repugnus (if it is a PotP limb), and Wreck Gar are the only potentially new bots for me, and that isn't quite enough to finish the 3 Voyagers that are incomplete.

o.supreme wrote:I seriously dout we will see those last 3. And as for the *leaks*, they don't come from they come from other sources.

I like you however would very much like to have my combiners complete. The only problem is, based on the previous line all parties combined (CW, UW, Club & Con exclusives). I already have *perfect symmetry* for all of those. The new Blastoff is for all intents and purposes is a repeat for me. Counterpunch is again unknown. If it is the same mold as TFCC, then I'll have determined it to be a repeat. Repugnus (if it is a PotP limb), and Wreck Gar are the only potentially new bots for me, and that isn't quite enough to finish the 3 Voyagers that are incomplete.

Sorry I should have been more clear with that post.

What I meant was along these lines:

Blastoff was previously released by Takara. Blastoff has been leaked as an exclusive for this line.

Separate items, I was trying to be brief. Obviously I should have been a bit more descriptive.

What 3 voyagers are incomplete for you?

mordhelm wrote:What 3 voyagers are incomplete for you?

I think he's referring to the three Potpie Voyagers who don't get full combiner teams: Starscream, Elita-1, and Inferno.

Yup

Also...My son just sent a text, my family is as Target and they have wave 2 Deluxes. I told him to get Moonracer or Blackwing because they are the hardest to find (we already have Rippersnapper). I'll see if he is nice to his sister and gets Moonracer, or just wants to complete the duo of Dreadwind and Blackwing...

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:OK, finally found a decent way to discern whether or not Elita-1 is misassembled upon sighting her: the ridge on the hinge of the foot piece divides it into a narrow and wide side. The wide side is supposed to be on the outside of the leg.

And no, the Elita-1 I spotted was indeed misassembled.

I came to a similar conclusion about how to spot the assembly error in package. However, I've yet to find a sample in the wild with the feet factory-assembled correctly. Similarly, I've never seen a Jazz with the "MAGA" cybertronian lettering removed either.

ok...so we just got Blackwing. Interesting that the side art packaging shows the combined jet mode rather than Combiner Starscream as Dreadwind did.

That's a nice picture, do all the other blackwings have the same art? I don't remember hearing about it before.

ZeroWolf wrote:That's a nice picture, do all the other blackwings have the same art? I don't remember hearing about it before.

They should. The side art of the combiners has been ignored for the most part, hell Jazz has Elita-Infin1te's art without us realising it!

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:hell Jazz has Elita-Infin1te's art without us realising it!

Can you clarify? Do you mean there is no official configuration for Elita-Infin1te? Because for a certainty, we DO have the toy released.... I think the point is, every deluxe for PotP up to this point, whether assigned to an official combiner or not, has shown the artwork for a combiner except for Blackwing.