Transformers 'Ongoing' #3 Five-Page Preview

mysteriousdewd wrote:Is the publishing date correct? Because in the newsletter and my local comic shop list it as coming in this wednesday the 13th. (Though I do live in Canada I doubt they would send it to us first)

Blurrz wrote:We're into Issue 3 and we still need name tags.......

First Gen wrote:Then its like a slap in the face when you read Bumblebee (which is directly related to Ongoing BTW) and you get super old school G1 art, when they are supposed to be the same exact bots in the same exact storyline.

JRFitzpatrick7 wrote:

First Gen wrote:Then its like a slap in the face when you read Bumblebee (which is directly related to Ongoing BTW) and you get super old school G1 art, when they are supposed to be the same exact bots in the same exact storyline.

in Iron Man 2 Don Cheadle will be playing Rhodes (War Machine). His face is different, his physique is different. He is still the same character. it is still the same continuity. everyone gets bent out of shape about the artist interpretation in this book but really, its the same characters if you read the dialogue and for the most part its the same color schemes and alt modes (with the exception of a few, thank you i knew that). The faces are those of machines, they do all look alike, i imagine these guys were created on a factory line possibly by quintessons. the faces should all look the same. a few characters retain the mouthplates they had in g1 (seaspray,wheeljack) while others retain battle helmets (swindle, ultra magnus).evryone is recognizeable. and who cares about the humans? who reads transformers for the humans?

First Gen wrote:

JRFitzpatrick7 wrote:

First Gen wrote:Then its like a slap in the face when you read Bumblebee (which is directly related to Ongoing BTW) and you get super old school G1 art, when they are supposed to be the same exact bots in the same exact storyline.

in Iron Man 2 Don Cheadle will be playing Rhodes (War Machine). His face is different, his physique is different. He is still the same character. it is still the same continuity. everyone gets bent out of shape about the artist interpretation in this book but really, its the same characters if you read the dialogue and for the most part its the same color schemes and alt modes (with the exception of a few, thank you i knew that). The faces are those of machines, they do all look alike, i imagine these guys were created on a factory line possibly by quintessons. the faces should all look the same. a few characters retain the mouthplates they had in g1 (seaspray,wheeljack) while others retain battle helmets (swindle, ultra magnus).evryone is recognizeable. and who cares about the humans? who reads transformers for the humans?

You're comparing a live movie sequel to a continuous comic story arc. Something gets lost in translation there. I know they are the same characters, but the radical difference between the two art styles in a story arc that is supposed to be running concurrently is more than annoying. Its like having all the Movieverse comic tie ins being drawn with the G1 representations of their respective characters. It just doesn't work.

JRFitzpatrick7 wrote:

First Gen wrote:Then its like a slap in the face when you read Bumblebee (which is directly related to Ongoing BTW) and you get super old school G1 art, when they are supposed to be the same exact bots in the same exact storyline.

in Iron Man 2 Don Cheadle will be playing Rhodes (War Machine). His face is different, his physique is different. He is still the same character. it is still the same continuity. everyone gets bent out of shape about the artist interpretation in this book but really, its the same characters if you read the dialogue and for the most part its the same color schemes and alt modes (with the exception of a few, thank you i knew that). The faces are those of machines, they do all look alike, i imagine these guys were created on a factory line possibly by quintessons. the faces should all look the same. a few characters retain the mouthplates they had in g1 (seaspray,wheeljack) while others retain battle helmets (swindle, ultra magnus).evryone is recognizeable. and who cares about the humans? who reads transformers for the humans?

Neurie wrote:

JRFitzpatrick7 wrote:

First Gen wrote:Then its like a slap in the face when you read Bumblebee (which is directly related to Ongoing BTW) and you get super old school G1 art, when they are supposed to be the same exact bots in the same exact storyline.

in Iron Man 2 Don Cheadle will be playing Rhodes (War Machine). His face is different, his physique is different. He is still the same character. it is still the same continuity. everyone gets bent out of shape about the artist interpretation in this book but really, its the same characters if you read the dialogue and for the most part its the same color schemes and alt modes (with the exception of a few, thank you i knew that). The faces are those of machines, they do all look alike, i imagine these guys were created on a factory line possibly by quintessons. the faces should all look the same. a few characters retain the mouthplates they had in g1 (seaspray,wheeljack) while others retain battle helmets (swindle, ultra magnus).evryone is recognizeable. and who cares about the humans? who reads transformers for the humans?

Well we are talking about a fictional race of robots whos shapes constantly shift and adapt.

In saying that thier appearence whilst appearing similar could theoretically be different each time they change form due to thier bodies constantly shifting and evolving to the enviroment, hence the changes between series, issues and even panels.

Or you could just say that the artist is adaptinmg his style due to input by fans/company/boss's or because he wants to draw things slightly differently.

Neurie wrote:Both view points have validity.

TBH I dont see Cybertron as part of that story, it was never ment to be. Hasbro just forced it, for soem reason rather than just saying ohh look new continuity. Galaxy force mades so much more sense than Cybertron and I still ahvent actually watch the English dub of energion yet.

But back to the comics, I can feel how annoyed you are but think about us UK readers back in gen 1, we had several diferent interpretations styles( and in some cases completely different character models) in 1 issue let alone in a run.

Im pretty sure the avaerage transformers fan can tell what should be the major characters in this series.

Now if some one doesnt get who the Obliterator Ironfist is in the Wreckers book thats more understandable than say bumblebee cause he has small or super exagerated features.

Perhaps ive just ben reading and looking at far too many international interpretations of the characters over the years that it doesnt bother me any more.

MYoung23 wrote:31 posts and nobody mentions the Seaspray cameo? Cmon now.

cadenheadr04 wrote:Anyone else wondering why they chose purple for Huffer instead of blue?

Supreme Convoy wrote:

cadenheadr04 wrote:Anyone else wondering why they chose purple for Huffer instead of blue?

Seibertron wrote:

MYoung23 wrote:31 posts and nobody mentions the Seaspray cameo? Cmon now.

I caught that too. Nice to see him finally get a nod.

JRFitzpatrick7 wrote:lets all take notice that we all knew it was seaspray, despite the art sstyle and without the nametag!!

JRFitzpatrick7 wrote:also, love the site Ryan. you've made transformers as easy to fall in love with again as possible, great galleries, great staff, great forums. i really like that you participate in the discussions, shows passion.

JRFitzpatrick7 wrote:that being said, i really like the art in this book

atleast1 wrote:Geewun was over, eighteen years ago.

atleast1 wrote:Geewun was over, eighteen years ago.

This is more similar to G1 than it is different; it is, however it's own continuity, even if superficially it seems like G1. I mean, the G1 story is well out of date right now, so why not the designs of the characters. Certain character traits have been changed, at the whim of the writers, to move the story, but create nagging inconsistencies; and this gets little scorn.

I just want to urge Don to keep up with trying new things and experimenting with his style. It's great, the way he increases the complexity of the figure, but retains the expressive body language. Facial expressions need a little work.

At any rate, I can't wait.

Dead Metal wrote:

atleast1 wrote:Geewun was over, eighteen years ago.

This is more similar to G1 than it is different; it is, however it's own continuity, even if superficially it seems like G1. I mean, the G1 story is well out of date right now, so why not the designs of the characters. Certain character traits have been changed, at the whim of the writers, to move the story, but create nagging inconsistencies; and this gets little scorn.

I just want to urge Don to keep up with trying new things and experimenting with his style. It's great, the way he increases the complexity of the figure, but retains the expressive body language. Facial expressions need a little work.

At any rate, I can't wait.

This is a G1 comic and G1 related toys come out all the time, so if people complain about the designs not being G1 ish in nature then they are in the right. It's the same with Animated, Movie or AEC, they all had their own unique style and doing them in a new vastly different style would be wrong. It would be like remaking the original Star Wars trilogy with organic looking spaceships and character designs that look like He-Man characters.

Seibertron wrote:

Supreme Convoy wrote:

cadenheadr04 wrote:Anyone else wondering why they chose purple for Huffer instead of blue?

That'd be blue. Hex code is approximately #3d3775.

Mechabreaker wrote:I just picked up issue three today, I have to say that this new series really demonstrates Mike Costa's strength as a writer, say what you will about the art, but I am just loving the story so far. I also can't wait for Bumblebee # 2 and Last Stand of the Wreckers #1.