Transformers Masterpiece Ultra Magnus Comparison Images with G1 Ultra Magnus

Sabrblade wrote:There is a very good reason why Citizen Stack is so wildly out of scale with MP-10.

It is because KFC used the following scale chart image for size reference when they made the figure:


HOWEVER, there's one little problem with this particular scale chart: It doesn't exist. Unlike the official one that Takara's been using for sizing the official MPs, the scale chart seen in the above image that KFC used for Citizen Stack is fanmade.

Actually KFC made Stacks that out of scale because they let the fans vote on if they want it to scale with MP-10 in bot mode or ALT mode. and the fans voted Alt mode...

mooncake623 wrote:Takara Tomy's twitter account TF_pr just tweeted out some new comparison of Masterpiece Ultra Magnus images with Generation 1 Ultra Magnus! These images shows us comparison shots of both the alternate modes and robot modes. Due to released by the end of the Month, let us know will you be adding MP-22 to your collection?
Check out the images we've mirrored below and remember keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest in news and updates, plus the best galleries around!

Finally a back image. And yes, mine is in preorder from amiami.

Woot! Red car trailer bed, blue inside legs.

[Edit] And those pics make me realize how much I miss my G1 Magnus....

... I never noticed the buttflap in these pics until the shot from the back. It's really less conspicuous than I thought. It's impressive that despite said buttflap, he's still very light on kibble in robot mode. This is definitely a masterpiece figure if there ever was one. Also, the side profile shot... is the slightly bulky backpacking actually a JETPACK? I think I see thrusters o.o

You know....seeing these pictures makes me glad I canceled my order for Magnus. The blue is too dark compared to the original toy and the cartoon, he's too chunky for my tastes. If I ever see him on sale somewhere.....maybe. But otherwise, he's all yours girls and boys.

I'm not digging the fake wheels on his feet. Was that really necessary ? After 30 years they find ways to tuck in and hide the annoying vehicle kibble but choose instead to emulate 1986 toy technology with fake wheels.

Bounti76 wrote:You know....seeing these pictures makes me glad I canceled my order for Magnus. The blue is too dark compared to the original toy and the cartoon, he's too chunky for my tastes. If I ever see him on sale somewhere.....maybe. But otherwise, he's all yours girls and boys.

I'm actually digging the color and lives down the street from a true UM coloring scheme. But I'll gladly add you Ultra Magnus to my personal supply. If they did Marlboor, I can see this on up for a recolor.

Rated X wrote:I'm not digging the fake wheels on his feet. Was that really necessary ? After 30 years they find ways to tuck in and hide the annoying vehicle kibble but choose instead to emulate 1986 toy technology with fake wheels.

I like it. It's part of his cartoon model.

Now that's almost 100% accuracy.

I actually think its a fantastic MP. I only own MP1 and Grimlock, but this would seriously make me consider buying my 3rd

Buying this toy because it looks great and it's big

Could care less about scale or buying stand alone toys.

Think MP-22 and KFC Citizen are a lot closer in height than some speculate. Guess we'll now soon enough when fans buy the toy, take pics and do video reviews.

Tsutsukakushi wrote:Buying this toy because it looks great and it's big

Could care less about scale or buying stand alone toys.

Think MP-22 and KFC Citizen are a lot closer in height than some speculate. Guess we'll now soon enough when fans buy the toy, take pics and do video reviews.

Did you see the picture posted by Sabrblade?

Sabrblade wrote:

Not sure what you mean by the speculation. They look significantly different in height....

BIG FAT PASS !!!

You guys can have this one. I don't think the blue looks as nice as the G1 toy, not even close.


I never got into the later Transformers bots anyway, so no ties to Magnus like I do for Prime.

Delta Magnus wrote:Well Transformers and scale have never exactly got along well- and considering most of the Season 3 episodes were animated by the notoriously shoddy AKOM (leading to some truly awful size changing) and the general disregard for the scale chart the animators had...yeah, I don't care. He looks good next to him anyway, and Ultra Magnus' size seems to be one of those things nobody can agree on (let's not forget that time he was able to pick up the constructicons in his hands like they were toys- which is hilarious considering they combine into a robot that at one point held Prime in his fist in a similar manner!).

He looks a good size to me anyway.

Thanks for those memories. Season 3 was so awful that even as a kid I was always thinking wth. Magnus's size is fine Grimlock on the other hand is a whole other story!

G1COLLECTOR wrote:BIG FAT PASS !!!

You guys can have this one. I don't think the blue looks as nice as the G1 toy, not even close.

Because it's based on the cartoon's blue.

Sabrblade wrote:

G1COLLECTOR wrote:BIG FAT PASS !!!

You guys can have this one. I don't think the blue looks as nice as the G1 toy, not even close.

Because it's based on the cartoon's blue.

I don't care even thought your right ! LOL
Most MP's are after designed after the Cartoon colors. However, they go back and forth from G1 Toy colors and Cartoons. Look at Takara's MP10 and Hasbro's MP Prime. Starscream, Soundwave's eyes, and this goes threw out the whole Transformers toy line. Which to make them like, G1 Toy colors, or like cartoon. Just saying.

G1COLLECTOR wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

G1COLLECTOR wrote:BIG FAT PASS !!!

You guys can have this one. I don't think the blue looks as nice as the G1 toy, not even close.

Because it's based on the cartoon's blue.

I don't care even thought your right ! LOL
Most MP's are after designed after the Cartoon colors. However, they go back and forth from G1 Toy colors and Cartoons. Look at Takara's MP10 and Hasbro's MP Prime. Starscream, Soundwave's eyes, and this goes threw out the whole Transformers toy line. Which to make them like, G1 Toy colors, or like cartoon. Just saying.

Want to try again? Because I have an idea of what you're trying to say, but it's not at all clear.

G1COLLECTOR wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

G1COLLECTOR wrote:BIG FAT PASS !!!

You guys can have this one. I don't think the blue looks as nice as the G1 toy, not even close.

Because it's based on the cartoon's blue.

I don't care even thought your right ! LOL
Most MP's are after designed after the Cartoon colors. However, they go back and forth from G1 Toy colors and Cartoons. Look at Takara's MP10 and Hasbro's MP Prime. Starscream, Soundwave's eyes, and this goes threw out the whole Transformers toy line. Which to make them like, G1 Toy colors, or like cartoon. Just saying.

If you're trying to use Hasbro's MP releases as examples of MPs using toy colors then there's your problem. This isn't a Hasbro release. This is Takara, who goes for cartoon colors every time since MP-9.

I definitely prefer the darker blue over the G1 toy's blue.


It just looks better to me.

I do like the toy blue, but I think it would look a tad iffy on this figure. I'm glad they're going with the cartoon shade of blue.

Delta Magnus wrote:I do like the toy blue, but I think it would look a tad iffy on this figure. I'm glad they're going with the cartoon shade of blue.

I'm sure if Hasbro takes a whack at this, we'll get a lighter toy-esque blue.

megatronus wrote:

Delta Magnus wrote:I do like the toy blue, but I think it would look a tad iffy on this figure. I'm glad they're going with the cartoon shade of blue.

I'm sure if Hasbro takes a whack at this, we'll get a lighter toy-esque blue.

So am I.

I wouldn't be to hasty in judging the color yet G1C. There are time, you probably experienced this as well when photographing a figure using the latest digicams, the colors are a bit different from the real thing. G1 UM for example when photographed looks , well like the pics in the site. dark royal(?) blue. But hands on, the color is a little lighter.

https://twitter.com/TF_pr/status/545021241610887168

Some Transform steps for UM.







Btw guys, which came first? Titanium UM with the no core robot fig or the IDW UM spotlight? Just want to know for trivial pursuit.

fenrir72 wrote:Btw guys, which came first? Titanium UM with the no core robot fig or the IDW UM spotlight? Just want to know for trivial pursuit.

Probably SL: UM since, while both it and the Titanium came out in 2007, the comic came out in January of that year.

well..... I LOVE IT!!!!! I LOVE IT SO FRIGGIN' MUCH!!!!!

Thanks to TF_pr we get a first look at some of the transformation process of the new Masterpiece Ultra Magnus.
Check out the images we've mirrored below and remember keep your optics tuned to Seibertron.com for the latest in news and updates, plus the best galleries around!

Heh. It appears that the entire bot form is contained within the trailer. The cab may not be needed at all. Maybe that solves the butt-flap issue for some people?

[Edit] Well, maybe not the head....

Sabrblade wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:Btw guys, which came first? Titanium UM with the no core robot fig or the IDW UM spotlight? Just want to know for trivial pursuit.

Probably SL: UM since, while both it and the Titanium came out in 2007, the comic came out in January of that year.

Is it okay to infer that with the exception of DonFig whose TF art were techincally transform capable, the SL UM version must have been THEN based on the upcoming Titanium UM?

I raise the question based on the almost similar TF sequence MP UM has to Titanium UM.

Sabrblade wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:Btw guys, which came first? Titanium UM with the no core robot fig or the IDW UM spotlight? Just want to know for trivial pursuit.

Probably SL: UM since, while both it and the Titanium came out in 2007, the comic came out in January of that year.

But aren't toys engineered/designed like at least a year in advance of them even going into production, much less actually being available on store shelves? At least that's what I've heard from interviews and such, although of course it may be different in this case since (I don't think) Has/Tak actually designed this one (it was the Micromachines guys or something, right?). If so, then that would put the toy at least a year before the comics, and while I'm certain some level of advance planning goes into the comics, I sincerely doubt those guys are planning this stuff a year ahead unless it's some kind of major arc for the entire series or something.

Desslok2201 wrote:well..... I LOVE IT!!!!! I LOVE IT SO FRIGGIN' MUCH!!!!!

Yeah! I also like how Tomy implemented that wheel swapping trick. At least UM won't be "roller skating" in robot mode. Can't wait until the end of December.

fenrir72 wrote:

Desslok2201 wrote:well..... I LOVE IT!!!!! I LOVE IT SO FRIGGIN' MUCH!!!!!

Yeah! I also like how Tomy implemented that wheel swapping trick. At least UM won't be "roller skating" in robot mode. Can't wait until the end of December.

Wont he still be able to roller skate? His wheels still out bit

dragons wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:

Desslok2201 wrote:well..... I LOVE IT!!!!! I LOVE IT SO FRIGGIN' MUCH!!!!!

Yeah! I also like how Tomy implemented that wheel swapping trick. At least UM won't be "roller skating" in robot mode. Can't wait until the end of December.

Wont he still be able to roller skate? His wheels still out bit

The wheels seem to be decorative.............won't roll.

xyl360 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

fenrir72 wrote:Btw guys, which came first? Titanium UM with the no core robot fig or the IDW UM spotlight? Just want to know for trivial pursuit.

Probably SL: UM since, while both it and the Titanium came out in 2007, the comic came out in January of that year.

But aren't toys engineered/designed like at least a year in advance of them even going into production, much less actually being available on store shelves? At least that's what I've heard from interviews and such, although of course it may be different in this case since (I don't think) Has/Tak actually designed this one (it was the Micromachines guys or something, right?). If so, then that would put the toy at least a year before the comics, and while I'm certain some level of advance planning goes into the comics, I sincerely doubt those guys are planning this stuff a year ahead unless it's some kind of major arc for the entire series or something.

I was answering the question in regards to "Which was released first?" rather than "Which was conceived first?" since the former is easier to deduce than the latter.

And yes, Galoob made the Titaniums instead of Hasbro.

So, his wheels hide in his feet to be replaced by...slightly different wheels?

OK then.

Delta Magnus wrote:So, his wheels hide in his feet to be replaced by...slightly different wheels?

OK then.

It's the little things like this that make this so special. That they went this extra mile of swapping out the functional wheels for the vehicle mode with the cartoon-accurate wheels for the robot mode in order to both keep the toy from slipping around on roller skates and adhere to the cartoon design to the nth degree is really impressive.

Yeah, I see. It still seems amusing though (a bit like the Voyager DOTM Prime, who has a fake window chest that...covers up his existing window chest...)

Still beats the original Legends Jazz and his amazing roof-grille...

to mimic the way he transforms in the cartoon is truly awesome

https://twitter.com/TF_pr/status/545427471206580225

More UM goodness!





And his weight

Thanks to fellow Seibertron.com user fenrir72's tip, we have mirrored below some new images of the upcoming Takara Tomy Transformers Masterpiece MP-22 Ultra Magnus, from the official Twitter PR account. It's going to be a heavy hitter, this one, weighing in at almost 1 kg (for reference, MP-10 without the trailer is just above 400 grams), and you can see the diecast that makes it so - check it out!

If only I had the cash for this guy.

So a little over 2 pounds.....

Bounti76 wrote:So a little over 2 pounds.....

Almost a kilo.

RhA wrote:

Bounti76 wrote:So a little over 2 pounds.....

Almost a kilo.

Which is just over 2 pounds.

Bounti76 wrote:

RhA wrote:

Bounti76 wrote:So a little over 2 pounds.....

Almost a kilo.

Which is just over 2 pounds.

Either way.....he's heavy.

Bounti76 wrote:

RhA wrote:

Bounti76 wrote:So a little over 2 pounds.....

Almost a kilo.

Which is just over 2 pounds.

Crazy US measurements.

Based on the proto pics, his feet are die-cast. Good for the base balance but paint chipping nightmare in the future.

I'm sure the diecast in the body is strategically placed, but I'm always wary of it. Diecast in the feet is great - it helps ground the figure. But the diecast in the body has the potential to really put him off balance... hopefully those hip joints are hella tight.

Didn't MP-1 weigh, like, 5 pounds? Or did I just weigh him wrong on the bathroom scale?

Sabrblade wrote:Didn't MP-1 weigh, like, 5 pounds? Or did I just weigh him wrong on the bathroom scale?

Shipping weight, that's what I have too.