Transformers Masterpiece MP-48 Lio Convoy To Include Beast Wars II Artemis Figure

I'm really hoping for a Moon to come with Artemis. that would be a great package

For those wondering what exactly Artemis and Moon are, they are androids.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I'm really hoping for a Moon to come with Artemis. that would be a great package

We may not need to, depending on her size. Moon already got a toy, transforming too:


Transformers Beast Wars II Moon Gallery

Around the size of a Basic, so if Artemis is tall enough, they're in scale

Just keep her away from Starscream and Scuba.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:Just keep her away from Starscream and Scuba.

Eh, not like she ever got to meet either in person, though. Just admired them both from afar.

Okay. That little Artemis figure is striking my inner week in the best way possible.
If there is effectively a little Moon figure too, that may just seal the deal for me to finally get a Beast Wars MP figure. Even if I never watched the original show.

I take it she doesn't transform?
Like how, should MP Silverbolt ever happen, he would come with Transmutate.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I take it she doesn't transform?
Like how, should MP Silverbolt ever happen, he would come with Transmutate.

Of course not. She's not a transformers after all. Still, she do have articulation points everywhere. I just hope that she will be in scale with Lio.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I take it she doesn't transform?
Like how, should MP Silverbolt ever happen, he would come with Transmutate.

Of course not. She's not a transformers after all. Still, she do have articulation points everywhere. I just hope that she will be in scale with Lio.

Initially, when the word 'android' was thrown in as a descriptive, I assumed she wasn't. Then when you mentioned her "companion" Moon did transform, I had to check.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:I take it she doesn't transform?
Like how, should MP Silverbolt ever happen, he would come with Transmutate.

Of course not. She's not a transformers after all. Still, she do have articulation points everywhere. I just hope that she will be in scale with Lio.

Initially, when the word 'android' was thrown in as a descriptive, I assumed she wasn't. Then when you mentioned her "companion" Moon did transform, I had to check.

Moon is also an android. It was just never explained how/why he was able to transform like a Transformer.

Also, Moon is tiny compared to the Maximals, so Artemis would need to be as well (NOTE: Not my pics).

Artemis is the same scale to Lio Convoy as Blackarachnia to Megatron... Something about that amuses me.

I want a clear shot of the Artemis figure next to MP Lio to see the scale.
If it's super small, a tiny transformable Moon could still be possible because Moon basically just lay on all four to "transform".

A Legion class Moon figure would be delightful.

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I'm really hoping for a Moon to come with Artemis. that would be a great package

We may not need to, depending on her size. Moon already got a toy, transforming too:

Oh i know, but I really don't want to have to track down little Moon, I'd rather just get a nice little new one with Lio!

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I'm really hoping for a Moon to come with Artemis. that would be a great package

We may not need to, depending on her size. Moon already got a toy, transforming too:

Oh i know, but I really don't want to have to track down little Moon, I'd rather just get a nice little new one with Lio!

What about an Encore reissue?

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I'm really hoping for a Moon to come with Artemis. that would be a great package

We may not need to, depending on her size. Moon already got a toy, transforming too:

Oh i know, but I really don't want to have to track down little Moon, I'd rather just get a nice little new one with Lio!

What about an Encore reissue?

I wish, and that would be nice, but I doubt they'd do that unfortunately

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

JelZe GoldRabbit wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I'm really hoping for a Moon to come with Artemis. that would be a great package

We may not need to, depending on her size. Moon already got a toy, transforming too:

Oh i know, but I really don't want to have to track down little Moon, I'd rather just get a nice little new one with Lio!

What about an Encore reissue?

I wish, and that would be nice, but I doubt they'd do that unfortunately

Yeah, the more recent non-G1 Encores feel like they were done for this year being the 35th anniversary of the brand, and that the ones that were chosen were specifically because they were either Convoys or staples of the brand like Unicron.

Takara Transformers MP-48 Lio Convoy looked pretty cool when he was revealed. Especially when we realized that his lion head and mane transformed from cartoony organic to robotic. The price had yet to be confirmed though, but now the listing is up at Takara Tomy Mall. The price is 21600 Yen, which comes out to a little over $200 USD. While that may not be the exact price people will be buying it at (since this includes Japanese consumer tax), it is a clear indication of the price point. Be prepared to see a similar price at importers like BBTS and TFSource and something closer to the $150 mark on Amazon Japan (not including shipping and importing fees).

This item will be released at the end of February 2020. The listing also gave us many new images, which we have for you below, enjoy!




















If you want a sense of scale, here he is next to Optimus Primal, who was half the price.

These prices are killing me. Oh well. I chose this hobby and for some reason I can't live with out this stuff.

This figure is a true work of art!
But I will skip, having never have owned the original nor had any emotional attachment for the character.

If this is available on Amazon Japan I'll pick it up. I've always kinda liked Lio Convoy and this is the best look MP Beast Wars figure thus far. I think it has to do with the design being based on 2D animation.

That robot mode is so sweet! The colors look really good on him

I kinda forgot that this thread existed and previously posted some MP Lio Convoy stuff in the main Masterpiece thread.

Sabrblade wrote:New pics of MP Lio Convoy, comparing him with the original 1998 toy, as well as some old Lucky Draws and original concept art sketches from way back then.

https://twitter.com/robo_fun/status/1157301777101799424

available at HLJ for 16000 yen
https://hlj.com/mp-48-transformers-mast ... s-tkt61497?utm_source=seibertron.com&=&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post

william-james88 wrote:available at HLJ for 16000 yen
https://hlj.com/mp-48-transformers-mast ... s-tkt61497?utm_source=seibertron.com&=&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post

What would you reckon are the chances of it selling out by Thursday?

Sabrblade wrote:

william-james88 wrote:available at HLJ for 16000 yen
https://hlj.com/mp-48-transformers-mast ... s-tkt61497?utm_source=seibertron.com&=&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post

What would you reckon are the chances of it selling out by Thursday?

10% chance

AmiAmi is also 16,000 JPY which is strange since they're usually a little cheaper than HLJ. I'm waiting on Amazon Japan, it'll probably be cheaper once shipping is factored in.

And man, the declining exchange rate is killing me. I read some projections that said by the end of the year the yen could break even with the Dollar at $1.00 to 100 jPY where we had been hovering around the 92 cents to 100 yen since December (before that it was 88 cents for months). Hopefully in improves, but one forecast said it wouldn't get better until December (after the 2020 elections).

Emerje

I don't know if it is because of the contrast between the white and red or if it is more noticeable putting him next to MP Primal (who is one of the best of the line) but in Beast Mode, Lio looks one of the worst so far. He looks a step backwards from Cheetor.

Emerje wrote:AmiAmi is also 16,000 JPY which is strange since they're usually a little cheaper than HLJ. I'm waiting on Amazon Japan, it'll probably be cheaper once shipping is factored in.

And man, the declining exchange rate is killing me. I read some projections that said by the end of the year the yen could break even with the Dollar at $1.00 to 100 jPY where we had been hovering around the 92 cents to 100 yen since December (before that it was 88 cents for months). Hopefully in improves, but one forecast said it wouldn't get better until December (after the 2020 elections).

Emerje

Is the US dollar getting weaker or the yen getting stronger?

william-james88 wrote:

Emerje wrote:AmiAmi is also 16,000 JPY which is strange since they're usually a little cheaper than HLJ. I'm waiting on Amazon Japan, it'll probably be cheaper once shipping is factored in.

And man, the declining exchange rate is killing me. I read some projections that said by the end of the year the yen could break even with the Dollar at $1.00 to 100 jPY where we had been hovering around the 92 cents to 100 yen since December (before that it was 88 cents for months). Hopefully in improves, but one forecast said it wouldn't get better until December (after the 2020 elections).

Emerje

Is the US dollar getting weaker or the yen getting stronger?

I think it's the yen getting stronger, but the USD isn't getting weaker. The yen has made massive gains against the euro this year, going from a Sept. peak of 1 euro = 133 yen to now 118 yen. Then again in that same time the euro has also weakened against the USD and to a lesser degree the CAD, but not nearly as dramatically. The CAD is still pretty weak against the USD and continues to decline against the yen. So just from that small sample I would say both the USD and yen are gaining strength, but the yen is doing it faster.

Still no Lio Convoy on Amazon Japan that I can find.

Emerje

TlDr; us canucks are screwed no matter the country we order from.

william-james88 wrote:available at HLJ for 16000 yen
https://hlj.com/mp-48-transformers-mast ... s-tkt61497?utm_source=seibertron.com&=&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post

Available at TFSource for $184.99 & Free Shipping
https://tfsource.com/masterpiece/mp-48-lio-convoy/

transformers_va wrote:

william-james88 wrote:available at HLJ for 16000 yen
https://hlj.com/mp-48-transformers-mast ... s-tkt61497?utm_source=seibertron.com&=&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post

Available at TFSource for $184.99 & Free Shipping
https://tfsource.com/masterpiece/mp-48-lio-convoy/

That's more reasonable than I was expecting. I thought it would be more like $200. This appears to be the Hasbro price, it's now on Pulse as well.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

transformers_va wrote:

william-james88 wrote:available at HLJ for 16000 yen
https://hlj.com/mp-48-transformers-mast ... s-tkt61497?utm_source=seibertron.com&=&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=news%20post

Available at TFSource for $184.99 & Free Shipping
https://tfsource.com/masterpiece/mp-48-lio-convoy/

That's more reasonable than I was expecting. I thought it would be more like $200. This appears to be the Hasbro price, it's now on Pulse as well.

Emerje

I wonder what the Amazon JP price will be then. I'm hoping around $140 to $150

Australian pre-order @ EB Games
Through HLJ it would be $291AUD (without current 20% off pre-order) so definitely a good option for Australian collectors.

Burn wrote:Australian pre-order @ EB Games
Through HLJ it would be $291AUD (without current 20% off pre-order) so definitely a good option for Australian collectors.

CAN$ and AU$ are about the same value. So this just make me nope.

Me-ow, Simba the White Lion grew up. Just in from TakaraTomy are some new images of the new Transformers Masterpiece MP48 Lio Convoy! These provide stellar views of his various weapons including his arm claws, cannons, and mane shield. To go along with the new images is an official promotional video rundown from TFND on Facebook of this amazing new piece of toy engineering with comparisons showing that he's actually in the middle when lined up against his Robotmasters and Beast Wars II versions. Enjoy the images and take a view of the video then head back here to let us know your thoughts in the forums. And make sure to stay tuned to Seibertron for the ultimate in Transformers news!

I think you're getting your versions mixed up, Simba is disney, Kimba is Japan

I really wish I could afford this, I love the engineering that's gone on to turn the lion head mechanical for the robot mode. Though what's also amusing me is that I have a how to draw transforming robots book, written by PLEX that very pointedly calls out the Lio Convoy design and disses it then pretty much follows it up with a "this is how it should be done!" approach! Ah the rivalry between designers (PLEX work with Bandai for Sentai robot designs and Machine Robo)

Even if I was interested in another Prime, the more I see of him, makes him an easy pass. He doesn't really scream "Masterpiece" to me. Maybe that is to be expected when a Beast Wars anime character makes it into this line, an overtly simplistic aesthetic, but he ticks zero boxes for me.

I am collecting the entire Beast Wars MP line, to show my little bit of support, for a series I want to keep going. Even collecting figures for characters I don't like, such as Airazor, Blackarachnia, Scorponok and Cheetor. That said, if this is a sign of things to come, that support won't be extending to the Takara sub-series.

This figure, on the other hand. might make a decent upgrade to Prowl with an extensive redeco. Although, such a figure would be hinting at something More, that Takara definitely won't do...

Ah lio junior, or Ares as I headcannoned him

ZeroWolf wrote:Ah lio junior, or Ares as I headcannoned him

Prowl, brain of Magnaboss. I always headcannoned the Magnaboss team as the direct counterparts to the Tripredacus Council IE Prowl, Ironhide and Silverbolt were the Maximal Elders, mentioned but unseen.

PrOwl, does complicate that a little. But then again, that can also be incorporated into the same canon by stating Prowl entered the Beast Wars on his own after the Quantum Surge and was reformatted into an Owl.
Then again people don't really make the same issue out of Silverbolt and the Fuzor namesake, so I never saw Bots with the same names as that big an issue.

I don't like the idea of "Lio Junior" though. Excessively humanising Transformers EG with "Kid Bots", is something I've always found unnecessary and a bit grim. Like sexualising the Fem Bots.

ZeroWolf wrote:I think you're getting your versions mixed up, Simba is disney, Kimba is Japan

I really wish I could afford this, I love the engineering that's gone on to turn the lion head mechanical for the robot mode. Though what's also amusing me is that I have a how to draw transforming robots book, written by PLEX that very pointedly calls out the Lio Convoy design and disses it then pretty much follows it up with a "this is how it should be done!" approach! Ah the rivalry between designers (PLEX work with Bandai for Sentai robot designs and Machine Robo)

Of course I got the two flipped. I’m always flipping things. Birds, pancakes, Transformer terms. I’m a flipping flipper. It’s like a running gag at this point.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Ah lio junior, or Ares as I headcannoned him

Prowl, brain of Magnaboss. I always headcannoned the Magnaboss team as the direct counterparts to the Tripredacus Council IE Prowl, Ironhide and Silverbolt were the Maximal Elders, mentioned but unseen.

PrOwl, does complicate that a little. But then again, that can also be incorporated into the same canon by stating Prowl entered the Beast Wars on his own after the Quantum Surge and was reformatted into an Owl.
Then again people don't really make the same issue out of Silverbolt and the Fuzor namesake, so I never saw Bots with the same names as that big an issue.

I don't like the idea of "Lio Junior" though. Excessively humanising Transformers EG with "Kid Bots", is something I've always found unnecessary and a bit grim. Like sexualising the Fem Bots.

Things like that never bothered me, regrading Lio junior, found it easy to look past. Though with the Maximal elders, I think that's the approach FunPub took with their botcon 2016 fiction, hence why they provided stickers for cw Prowl, Ironhide and silverbolt, to act as a reference to magnaboss. I never bothered keeping the rest of the team the same either. Heck I never even kept the genders the same

Always kept focus on humanising to a bare minimum. As well as giving gender to the Giant Alien Robots. They are not human, after all. It is fine to round off their personalities with human traits, as Beast Wars did. Beyond that is veering into fetish territory...

Still I think Prowl would work as a redeco'd Lio Convoy. Stripping off the shoulder kibble and the hideous feet, gives a lot of potential alternates to the mold.

Different perspectives at the end of the day, stuff like that was always fine by me

As for redcos, there's a black repaint, a burning repaint they could do alongside a similar redeco of Primal to represent them from the movie.

I'm getting my terminology mixed up again.

I meant 'retool' not redeco. The base Lio Convoy could be Retooled into Prowl and a couple of others.

Update

First prices in for UK buyers:

MP-48 Lio Convoy: £144.99. At time of writing, 10% deposit is available

DUE MARCH / APRIL 2020 ( Estimated and subject to any delays )

Kapow
In Demand

*MP-43, according to Kapow

Thanks to TFW2005 board member Operative294 we've learned that Transformers MP48 Lio Convoy is available as an EB Games and Zing Exclusive! This is great news for our Australian collectors as they will be able to attain Lio locally. Australian Transformer collectors now you can now access the pre-orders for Masterpiece Lio Convoy at either Zing Pop Culture here or EB Games Australia here.

Our US collectors can order Lio at Hasbro Pulse here.

Don't be a bogan hop on line and order this lion because this is one lion that won't be lying around for long, and I'm not lyin'.

Enjoy the images below and share your thoughts in the forum. As always stay tuned to Seibertron for the ultimate in Transformers news!

It took a little longer than usual, but MP-48 Lio Convoy from Beast Wars II has finally found his way onto Amazon Japan. As per usual Amazon Japan is offering the best price possible at an export price of only 14,962 JPY he comes in at about $142 USD. The full Japanese price with tax is 22,000 JPY making for a savings of 7,038 JPY for those outside of Japan. If you've never ordered from Amazon it works exactly the same as any other regional version of Amazon and is even available in English. The real kicker is that Japan doesn't charge sales tax on exports so even though a price of 16,159 JPY is shown at the link above, the 8% Tokyo sales tax will be removed at checkout leading to a much bigger savings! Factor in ultra fast shipping of 1,200 JPY that usually averages three days from Japan to your doorstep and it's a hard price to beat. It is recommended that you use a credit card as Amazon doesn't accept PayPal and an overseas bank debit card charge may be declined by the issuer.

if you'd rather deal with a domestic seller or an exporter that offers PayPal you do have options. Hasbro Pulse, TFSource, Big Bad Toy Store, Ages 3 and Up, Entertainment Earth, and The Chosen Prime are all asking $184.99 USD. Robot Kingdom is $142.99 USD. Hobby Link Japan and AmiAmi are asking 16,000 JPY while Hobby Search is asking 17,000 JPY. And thanks to Seibertronian AllNewSuperRobot in our Energon Pub Forums we have a UK price of £144.99 at Kapow Toys and In Demand Toys.

He is now up to 16,159. I pre-ordered him at 14,871. Usually online the day pre-orders will go up worldwide seems to be told ahead of time. I did it with Blackarachnia and Hound. I kind of play it like the very old fun to remember Botcon Non-Attendee Fax Days. I occasionally re-fresh my phone during the day and every time it pops up on the day it should. I never knew the option was available to use Amazon Japan but I did it with Beast Wars MP Megatron and paid $229 total shipped. If I bought him from a US distributor with tax and shipping would be about $350. It also showed up in 3 days from the date of shipping. It is well worth it and while I was a little hesitant in case there were issues with the toy I have read enough to see that Amazon Japan is just as helpful as Amazon USA.

Has anyone from the UK ordered with Amazon.Jp? I'm very interested in Lio but the UK vendors are at £144 If I've translated the price correctly, including shipping it's in the £130 ball park