Transformers Masterpiece MP-47 Hound Pre-Orders Live

I'm gonna wait for the Amazon Japan price before I continue my freakout.

Ironhidensh wrote:I'm gonna wait for the Amazon Japan price before I continue my freakout.

I'm guessing Amazon Japan will be around $125 shipped

When MP Hound costs the same as MP-10, that's a pretty good sign my Masterpiece collecting has come to an end.

His ark mates went for 60-80 use right? how the hell did they manage to up it by so much? It's very disappointing but I'll end up shelling out for it cos he remains one of my favourites. The other reason... being a collector.

I feel like now takara have thrown us into a cycle where they know they have the completists locked in.. they don't care for the straggler who *might* pick up something here and there. they can rely on twits like me who are more completist (and I'm nowhere near that extreme either) where they can release figures at higher prices, sell fewer and make more profit...

And perhaps i'm in the minority, but the extra bits and bobs really annoy me as i hardly every use them... I get it's nice to give us a choice like with the facial expressions or chrome vs anime looks, but at times it feels like they're OTT and would rather have a base figure for 20-30 euro less than 10 accessories i will prolly never use.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:I'm gonna wait for the Amazon Japan price before I continue my freakout.

I'm guessing Amazon Japan will be around $125 shipped

There's a very good chance that you won't be able to get this figure from Amazon Japan.

frogbat wrote:His ark mates went for 60-80 use right? how the hell did they manage to up it by so much? It's very disappointing but I'll end up shelling out for it cos he remains one of my favourites. The other reason... being a collector.

I feel like now takara have thrown us into a cycle where they know they have the completists locked in.. they don't care for the straggler who *might* pick up something here and there. they can rely on twits like me who are more completist (and I'm nowhere near that extreme either) where they can release figures at higher prices, sell fewer and make more profit...

And perhaps i'm in the minority, but the extra bits and bobs really annoy me as i hardly every use them... I get it's nice to give us a choice like with the facial expressions or chrome vs anime looks, but at times it feels like they're OTT and would rather have a base figure for 20-30 euro less than 10 accessories i will prolly never use.

I comepletely agree with you. The extras i look at once and maybe swap in and out at the start, then into the cabinet lokely not to be used again.

The rate of G1 releases is so much slower now that the higher prices are bearable.. but likely skipping Mp44 due to cost so maybe that is the first skip of many?

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:I'm gonna wait for the Amazon Japan price before I continue my freakout.

I'm guessing Amazon Japan will be around $125 shipped

There's a very good chance that you won't be able to get this figure from Amazon Japan.

What makes you say this?!

Has anyone seen a vehicle mode for this figure? I don't doubt it will be pretty solid, since Takara seems to have no problem figuring out small vehicle types with their MP line. If I was a G1 fan this would probably be a must-have. For someone like me who really got introduced with Beast Wars, trying to get all completionist on MP's is a little too rough on the wallet when there are lots of really fun lines that are still in production.

It's not that I've avoided G1 MP's altogether. I love the Lambos just for their engineering. I really enjoy the Nissan Fairlady versions for mostly the same reason (and SUPER solid bot and vehicle modes). I realized today that I've subconsciously opted for the Diaclone versions of almost every MP I've bought from the G1 period. There are some real novelties in the MP lineup, but I just can't be interested in owning a $400 Optimus (after the fear and terror with that crotch breakage BW Megatron) or holding an outdated repaint of an outdated fighter jet (looking at the Seekers). I'm thinking I'll stick to Beast Wars issues on the MP line from here on out.

I dont think we have seen a colour vehicle mode. My worry is a huge level of complication ala Sunstreaker and Megatron.. i preferred thed if i am honest the earlier more simple transformations simply due to time.. i cant spend 30 mins per TF figuring out the individual panels!

Completely agreed on the breakage worries.

Hound was always one of my favorite TF character/toy ever. I never really was into MPs and now that the prices have gone up like mad, I'm even less so. But for Hound, I may just gave in and buy it.

I'm still mad at myself for missing out on Maketoy's version. Especially the G1 toy colors deco.

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:I'm gonna wait for the Amazon Japan price before I continue my freakout.

I'm guessing Amazon Japan will be around $125 shipped

There's a very good chance that you won't be able to get this figure from Amazon Japan.

How do you come up with these notions?

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:I'm gonna wait for the Amazon Japan price before I continue my freakout.

I'm guessing Amazon Japan will be around $125 shipped

There's a very good chance that you won't be able to get this figure from Amazon Japan.

How do you come up with these notions?

PadForce wrote:The rate of G1 releases is so much slower now that the higher prices are bearable.. but likely skipping Mp44 due to cost so maybe that is the first skip of many?

yeah mp44 will be a skip for now, they might release 1000 versions like they did mp10 and make one affordable.. perhaps without the trailer..

I skipped out on the beast wars ones because of prices and having to box in my collecting. Though if they ever do a waspianator...

We finally have the full reveal of Transformers Masterpiece MP-47 Hound. You will see all the accessories below, which includes some hologram effects and a cover for the back of the jeep. Speaking of the alt mode, we finally get a good look at it and it is perfect, as can be expected by now. The MSRP is indeed revealed to be 18000 Yen (about $160 USD) and the release date is end of December this year.

Below is a translation of what appears on Dengeki Hobby, please let us know what you think of this figure in our forums.

Parts list included. As replacement face parts are also included, you can enjoy the hound's look according to the scene by replacing it. Please add "MP-47 Hound" made by incorporating Takara Tomy's latest technology to your Transformers collection!

DATA
Transformers masterpiece
MP-47 hound

Target age 15 years old or older
Set contents: Hound body x 1 / laser scope x 1 / jerican x 1 / spare tire x 1 / spike figure x 1 / hologram figure x 1 / hologram effect x 1 / hood part x 1 / key of for 1 x 1 for exchange Face (smile) × 1 / Replacement face (scream) × 1 / Hologram gun × 1 / Side mirror (spare runner 1 set) × 1 / Character card × 1 / Manual × 1
Publisher: Takara Tomy
Price: 18,000 yen (excluding tax)
Scheduled for release in late December 2019

I wonder if they'll eventually release a MP+ version of this.

Looks great.

Where do the back wheels go in bot mode?

He is smaller than ironhide, and dounle the price, wtf?

Transforming tires, hell yeah!

Not that I particularly care (human figures being consigned to the inside of Prime's trailer, out of sight where they belong), but it seems strange to go to the trouble of creating a more articulated Spike only to again deprive him of eyes...

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:I'm gonna wait for the Amazon Japan price before I continue my freakout.

I'm guessing Amazon Japan will be around $125 shipped

There's a very good chance that you won't be able to get this figure from Amazon Japan.

How do you come up with these notions?

Just preorded Cyberverse Grimlock on there no problem and that's a pretty new listing. Plenty of stuff shows as available to ship as long as it's sold by Amazon Japan and not a marketplace seller. FBA on there is a crapshoot, usually doesn't go global but sometimes it does. So yeah, no idea where this came from.

edit: Apparently there's a discussion on tfw about it because some Macross thing didn't ship global so there's general paranoia but I don't see any actual issues with TFs described. Apparently the "Jump to Conclusions" mat still ships global

$160 what a damn joke.

So twice the price of the other MP cars. Hmmmmm - you get a few accessories, how lucky for us. My god the official releases are more expensive than 3rd party now.

Gosh, darnit. I really want this. I'm supposed to be out...but they may have dragged me back in.

The price is a little too high for my tastes, even if Hound is a personal favourite.
Probably I'll take the risk and wait for a bit, to see if it becomes cheaper or if they plan to release a MP+ version, as I'd still like a bit more details on the robot mode.

A Detritus repaint would be tops too.

Well I guess it worked for Matt Damon in the Martian?

The tarp looks real nice in alt mode though. I'm very interested in whatever tire magic is going on with the back wheels

And bring on the toy accurate plus deco already

Hound looks absolutely gorgeous! THIS is a true Masterpiece Transformer! I really like too how the canopy accessory matches colors with Hound's thighs and engine block. Letting him use the canopy as a shield is a nice little nod to Movie: The Best Hound as well. I know the price is off putting, but Takara's MSRP is always way higher than what actual stores eventually charge. I'm sure the price will come down a bit on the preorders in the next few weeks, now that the figure has been officially announced and revealed.

Wolfman Jake wrote:Hound looks absolutely gorgeous! THIS is a true Masterpiece Transformer! I really like too how the canopy accessory matches colors with Hound's thighs and engine block. Letting him use the canopy as a shield is a nice little nod to Movie: The Best Hound as well. I know the price is off putting, but Takara's MSRP is always way higher than what actual stores eventually charge. I'm sure the price will come down a bit on the preorders in the next few weeks, now that the figure has been officially announced and revealed.

It will, but there is still some validity to people complaining about rising prices.He will be cheaper on amazon japan and other japanese retailers (and japan retail as a whole) but when comparing the price Ironhide sold at those places, I can see the issue. As we can see from the pic, Ionhide is bigger, we can all agree he was rather complex and he had a TON of accessories (the most we have ever gotten, number wise). And his MSRP was "only" a little less than 10000 yen and he was being sold at Japanese retail for $75.

Since it will be easier, and we are looking at the full on price and what its sold in North America (since those are all the listings we have), Ironhide was sold at TFSource for $99 https://tfsource.com/masterpiece/mp-27-ironhide/

That is $60 cheaper than this Hound. I would love to get a hold of this Hound, I think he looks amazing. But I am currently priced out and thus will not be preordering it this year.

william-james88 wrote:It will, but there is still some validity to people complaining about rising prices.He will be cheaper on amazon japan and other japanese retailers (and japan retail as a whole) but when comparing the price Ironhide sold at those places, I can see the issue. As we can see from the pic, Ionhide is bigger, we can all agree he was rather complex and he had a TON of accessories (the most we have ever gotten, number wise). And his MSRP was "only" a little less than 10000 yen and he was being sold at Japanese retail for $75.

Since it will be easier, and we are looking at the full on price and what its sold in North America (since those are all the listings we have), Ironhide was sold at TFSource for $99 https://tfsource.com/masterpiece/mp-27-ironhide/

That is $60 cheaper than this Hound. I would love to get a hold of this Hound, I think he looks amazing. But I am currently priced out and thus will not be preordering it this year.

I don't think Ironhide is necessarily a very complex Masterpiece figure. He's certainly nowhere near the level of Inferno's "ladder magic." Both Ironhide and Inferno are of similar size and mass, but Inferno sold for more. Ironhide did come with a TON of nice accessories, but most of them are just single pieces, not complex parts that need to be assembled. Hound is part of the "next generation" of articulation and complexity that started with Sunstreaker, who was also much smaller than Ironhide, came with fewer accessories, but was way more articulated and way more expensive than the likes of his brother Sideswipe. (Hound also seems to have some "magic" of his own going on with his rear tires.) I think Sunstreaker is a way better benchmark as to how much Hound "should" cost. Yes, the price of a Masterpiece Autobot car has gone up recently even compared to Sunstreaker, but the difference is about half of that between Ironhide and Hound, which seems much more reasonable, considering the price hikes of all Transformers products over the past couple of years since Sunstreaker was first released.

Another thing to keep in mind is the "redeco/retool" potential of some Masterpiece figures. Optimus Prime will always have a Black Convoy redeco to fall back on, and every color of the rainbow for BAPE exclusives, so you get a lot of use out of the design of "one" figure. For Hound, though, the options are much more limited. Detritus, maybe? Compare with Sideswipe, who was turned into Red Alert, Tigertrack, Deep Cover, and then rereleased with a new paint job as anime edition Sideswipe and Red Alert. Even Sunstreaker has more options. We already got Cordon, but we can still potentially get a Diaclone red Sunstreaker too.

So if mp44 has so much redecoo posibility, why is it still $400?

I think Takara has simply gauged the market and decided the collectors are happy ti pay ludicrously inflated prices.

Its a shame, but arguably inevitable with such a devoted fandom.

I think Hound is the first MP Transformer in the "cartoon accurate" line to not really suffer for it, he looks great! (Artfire doesn't count, he wasn't cartoon but had great coloring detail, but Inferno and Grapple were very bland)

I'm interested to see the Plus toy version eventually. It looks like a good mold.

I've been pretty excited about this guy but after the big reveal here, I'm pretty disappointed.

The price is insane for a figure smaller than Ironhide....who SHOULDN'T be smaller than Ironhide.

Speaking of Iron hide, I really feel that guy is really what the MP line should be. Perfect size, nice, solid piece, with some heft to it. He feels high quality for the money. (Inferno and Grapple are in the same category.) Hound, here, seems on par with Wheeljack, who I was pretty disappointed with once I had him in hand. Way too small, plasticy, and cheap feeling for the money paid (BUT at only $75, I could deal with it.) Hound appears to be the same quality as Wheeljack but double the price of Iron Hide.

What a bummer. At least I can grab that Soundwave reissue since I missed out the first time around...

EDIT: Also, if you look at the picture with Ironhide and the picture where he's kneeling with Spike, his shoulders popped out to get his arm in the right place. I'm really not so sure how poseable this guys going to be.

Holy crap. I still think 160 is too high, but he does look great. I'll be picking him up. This definitely feels and looks like it's done right. I still don't understand how Prime justifies a 500 dollar price tag, but I can get behind this Hound. The new more articulated Spike, the alt mode, the bot mode...they all look great tbh.

Hound look really fantastic but paying over 200 Monopoly dollars for it? Maybe even more than 250$ including shipping and customs.
Sigh...

I might be setting myself up for disappointment, but if Hound only comes with a key then doesn't that almost confirm Mirage is in the works and coming with the cage? Plus with Soundwave being reissued that could potentially mean a Ravage reissue, too. And with that all the key players for this scene would be released.



Anyway, the figure looks great and I can't wait to see what the spare tire can do since it is also hinged.

ScottyP wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:I'm gonna wait for the Amazon Japan price before I continue my freakout.

I'm guessing Amazon Japan will be around $125 shipped

There's a very good chance that you won't be able to get this figure from Amazon Japan.

How do you come up with these notions?

Just preorded Cyberverse Grimlock on there no problem and that's a pretty new listing. Plenty of stuff shows as available to ship as long as it's sold by Amazon Japan and not a marketplace seller. FBA on there is a crapshoot, usually doesn't go global but sometimes it does. So yeah, no idea where this came from.

edit: Apparently there's a discussion on tfw about it because some Macross thing didn't ship global so there's general paranoia but I don't see any actual issues with TFs described. Apparently the "Jump to Conclusions" mat still ships global

It isn't unusual for new figures to be listed as not able to ship overseas from Amazon Japan at first and then later enabled. I will point out that MPM-8 Megatron took a while to get discounted on Amazon Japan and when it finally happened it was only 18% which is small compared to other exporters. Amazon Japan is also now cutting off pre-order cancellations after a certain period so you can't just order with them and hold out for a better price elsewhere, gotta be prepared to commit or keep an eye on the date if you're unsure. There's no promise that Hound will be the lowest price on Amazon Japan, though cheap shipping does help.

Emerje

Grimlok59 wrote:I wonder if they'll eventually release a MP+ version of this.

I love the toy ... but it definitely needs an MP+ version with a toy deco. It looks very plain.

Syclone wrote:The price is insane for a figure smaller than Ironhide....who SHOULDN'T be smaller than Ironhide.

Hound is consistently smaller than Ironhide, in the cartoon, in the Sunbow size charts, and now even in the SIEGE line, where Hasbro is paying especially close attention to relative character scale. Hound is the same height as the likes of Prowl and Sideswipe, more or less.

Emerje wrote:

ScottyP wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:I'm gonna wait for the Amazon Japan price before I continue my freakout.

I'm guessing Amazon Japan will be around $125 shipped

There's a very good chance that you won't be able to get this figure from Amazon Japan.

How do you come up with these notions?

Just preorded Cyberverse Grimlock on there no problem and that's a pretty new listing. Plenty of stuff shows as available to ship as long as it's sold by Amazon Japan and not a marketplace seller. FBA on there is a crapshoot, usually doesn't go global but sometimes it does. So yeah, no idea where this came from.

edit: Apparently there's a discussion on tfw about it because some Macross thing didn't ship global so there's general paranoia but I don't see any actual issues with TFs described. Apparently the "Jump to Conclusions" mat still ships global

It isn't unusual for new figures to be listed as not able to ship overseas from Amazon Japan at first and then later enabled. I will point out that MPM-8 Megatron took a while to get discounted on Amazon Japan and when it finally happened it was only 18% which is small compared to other exporters. Amazon Japan is also now cutting off pre-order cancellations after a certain period so you can't just order with them and hold out for a better price elsewhere, gotta be prepared to commit or keep an eye on the date if you're unsure. There's no promise that Hound will be the lowest price on Amazon Japan, though cheap shipping does help.

Emerje

In any case, Hound is on Amazon Japan. Here is the breakdown, the import duty fee will depend on the country and whatever policy for imports Trump chooses to act on:



Clicking the pic will get you to the listing.

Hound costs more than the MP Soundwave reissue. Justify paying it however we want, (I’m doing the mental gymnastics on it myself) but this price is not in any way reasonable.

It’s a money grab, no more, no less. Totally Takara’s right as a free company, don’t get me wrong, but also our right to not buy.

Ironhidensh wrote:Hound costs more than the MP Soundwave reissue. Justify paying it however we want, (I’m doing the mental gymnastics on it myself) but this price is not in any way reasonable.

It’s a money grab, no more, no less. Totally Takara’s right as a free company, don’t get me wrong, but also our right to not buy.

I doubt it's that simple with the Tariffs. Importers suffer whether they are wholesale or retail. If Japan is getting stuff from China (most likely), then China may raise fees to compensate for Tariffs from US.

There's a whole absurd interchange going on that could very well be effecting the prices we see. It also *could* be a money grab. Without expertise in International Commerce I can see how it's easiest to believe it's a "money grab," but that doesn't make it one. Necessarily.

sol magnus wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:Hound costs more than the MP Soundwave reissue. Justify paying it however we want, (I’m doing the mental gymnastics on it myself) but this price is not in any way reasonable.

It’s a money grab, no more, no less. Totally Takara’s right as a free company, don’t get me wrong, but also our right to not buy.

I doubt it's that simple with the Tariffs. Importers suffer whether they are wholesale or retail. If Japan is getting stuff from China (most likely), then China may raise fees to compensate for Tariffs from US.

There's a whole absurd interchange going on that could very well be effecting the prices we see. It also *could* be a money grab. Without expertise in International Commerce I can see how it's easiest to believe it's a "money grab," but that doesn't make it one. Necessarily.

Most Transformers are manufactured in Vietnam these days.

While it is true that the higher prices on recent MP figures are due to several factors, greed is absolutely one of those.

ScottyP wrote:

sol magnus wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:Hound costs more than the MP Soundwave reissue. Justify paying it however we want, (I’m doing the mental gymnastics on it myself) but this price is not in any way reasonable.

It’s a money grab, no more, no less. Totally Takara’s right as a free company, don’t get me wrong, but also our right to not buy.

I doubt it's that simple with the Tariffs. Importers suffer whether they are wholesale or retail. If Japan is getting stuff from China (most likely), then China may raise fees to compensate for Tariffs from US.

There's a whole absurd interchange going on that could very well be effecting the prices we see. It also *could* be a money grab. Without expertise in International Commerce I can see how it's easiest to believe it's a "money grab," but that doesn't make it one. Necessarily.

Most Transformers are manufactured in Vietnam these days.

While it is true that the higher prices on recent MP figures are due to several factors, greed is absolutely one of those.

I'm aware of the Siege line being made there, certainly. Not as up on where Masterpiece is, but it makes sense.

I don't like paying exorbitant fees, either. However, the goal of a company is to make the most money it can on any given product. The pain threshold is getting to the capping point for many, but as long as they thing we will pay this kind of money they will keep charging it.

Can confirm the inclusion of his diving visor

Not sure if it's been posted and I'm sure no one wants to pay this price, but Hound is up on HasbroPulse for $170.

That pretty much says it in the title. Thanks to fellow Seibertronian Nathaniel Prime and Takara Tomy's website we have a great image of Transformers Masterpiece MP-47 Hound with his underwater face mask, even posed as he was in the classic G1 episode when he originally used it. Please keep in mind this is the Takara Tomy listing and the Hasbro release is available through our link at Entertainment Earth. The main difference between the two being the extra box with English on for the Hasbro release. That same release is also available on Hasbro Pulse.

It's just amazing the thought put into some of these Masterpiece editions, the amount of fan service can be far reaching and no doubt intends to bring a smile to some of the most long time hardened fans. It's also one of those little touches that helps cushion the blow of the sizeable price tag. Share your view with the Seibertron crew and let everyone know if this is the final straw that breaks the camel's back in your decision on this piece.

This is cool until I seen the Price at $169.00 ... These MP's just keep getting higher and not at all worth it. I have paid a lot for MP figures and it is just getting stupid high for what your getting anymore. I know many are going to say if you don't want to pay that, oh well stop collecting them. However, it's just funny to me when I see the asking prices of these newer figures. I'll wait for a sale or will pass, no big deal on this one to me.

I find it amusing Hound required an underwater breathing mask despite the fact he's a robot & doesn't breathe air. Aah the silliness of 80's cartoons

Hound looks to be on the level of Ironhide, an intuitive transformation that leaves you wondering just how you did it.

As was previously stated Amazon Japan locked out a bunch of international pre-orders a few nights ago.99% of the time that means it would be several months before AJ would open up orders for toys again. Thankfully that wasn't the case this time.

$118 via Anime-export, if you're patient. Never had issues with them. Just sayin'.

SpaceKaseJase wrote:$118 via Anime-export, if you're patient. Never had issues with them. Just sayin'.

I had issues with my MP dinobot and they... sent me a new one a few months later, it all worked out well and I recomend them fully.

Their shipping has gone up though.

pfft, called it back with mp 44, prices are going way up and never coming back down; way to kill off a good chunk of your customer-base, idiots

that being said, he actually looks cool, and a toy accurate deco would probably look nice

william-james88 wrote:

SpaceKaseJase wrote:$118 via Anime-export, if you're patient. Never had issues with them. Just sayin'.

I had issues with my MP dinobot and they... sent me a new one a few months later, it all worked out well and I recomend them fully.

Their shipping has gone up though.

I'm still waiting for them to resolve my account issues so that I can have a $250+ order shipped, but so far the just say they can't help and then ignore my emails... So I'd only recommend them if you're sure you won't be needing to contact them in case something doesn't work out