Transformers Legends Chromedome and Mindwipe New Images

Kurona wrote:Should also be noted that these two have new face sculpts much more accurate to The Headmasters, and I'm pretty sure to their original toys.

Logan. wrote:Cerebros in (my) hand

Cyberpath wrote:Here's the heads chart again.

Wolfman Jake wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:Here's the heads chart again.

I think Sabr mentioned this a while back, but for the most part, the face models for the Decepticon Headmasters didn't change all that much between Sunbow's "The Rebirth" miniseries and the Japanese original production of "The Headmasters." In fact, Takara's head sculpt for Legeneds Mindwipe looks almost like a compromise between the details found on the Western character model versus the Japanese character model.

Kurona wrote:Hasbro's Chromedome becomes more and more of an utterly bizarre scenario the more I look at it. He has an IDW-styled head... yet an original toy/rebirth/headmasters-styled body. And then it doesn't end there - the colour layout on his toy/cartoon-accurate body is IDW-accurate, and the colours on his IDW-accurate head are cartoon-accurate. It's a very strange way to do a compromise

Kurona wrote:Hasbro's Chromedome becomes more and more of an utterly bizarre scenario the more I look at it. He has an IDW-styled head... yet an original toy/rebirth/headmasters-styled body. And then it doesn't end there - the colour layout on his toy/cartoon-accurate body is IDW-accurate, and the colours on his IDW-accurate head are cartoon-accurate. It's a very strange way to do a compromise

Kurona wrote:Hasbro's Chromedome becomes more and more of an utterly bizarre scenario the more I look at it. He has an IDW-styled head... yet an original toy/rebirth/headmasters-styled body. And then it doesn't end there - the colour layout on his toy/cartoon-accurate body is IDW-accurate, and the colours on his IDW-accurate head are cartoon-accurate. It's a very strange way to do a compromise

Sabrblade wrote:

Kurona wrote:Hasbro's Chromedome becomes more and more of an utterly bizarre scenario the more I look at it. He has an IDW-styled head... yet an original toy/rebirth/headmasters-styled body. And then it doesn't end there - the colour layout on his toy/cartoon-accurate body is IDW-accurate, and the colours on his IDW-accurate head are cartoon-accurate. It's a very strange way to do a compromise

It seems to me like they simply molded the figure--head and body--to resemble Chromedome's IDW Shadowplay design (at least in robot mode), but applied to it the traditional, not-specifically-IDW-based Chromedome colors.

Kurona wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Kurona wrote:Hasbro's Chromedome becomes more and more of an utterly bizarre scenario the more I look at it. He has an IDW-styled head... yet an original toy/rebirth/headmasters-styled body. And then it doesn't end there - the colour layout on his toy/cartoon-accurate body is IDW-accurate, and the colours on his IDW-accurate head are cartoon-accurate. It's a very strange way to do a compromise

It seems to me like they simply molded the figure--head and body--to resemble Chromedome's IDW Shadowplay design (at least in robot mode), but applied to it the traditional, not-specifically-IDW-based Chromedome colors.

They modeled it after the toy with the only real differences being caused by the Dead End engineering, fixed proportions and updated articulation. It just happened to look like Shadowplay Chromedome because Shadowplay Chromedome is modeled after the toy. And even then it still has some differences that make it clear the toy is G1-based rather than any iteration of IDW Chromedome-based.

Sabrblade wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Kurona wrote:Hasbro's Chromedome becomes more and more of an utterly bizarre scenario the more I look at it. He has an IDW-styled head... yet an original toy/rebirth/headmasters-styled body. And then it doesn't end there - the colour layout on his toy/cartoon-accurate body is IDW-accurate, and the colours on his IDW-accurate head are cartoon-accurate. It's a very strange way to do a compromise

It seems to me like they simply molded the figure--head and body--to resemble Chromedome's IDW Shadowplay design (at least in robot mode), but applied to it the traditional, not-specifically-IDW-based Chromedome colors.

They modeled it after the toy with the only real differences being caused by the Dead End engineering, fixed proportions and updated articulation. It just happened to look like Shadowplay Chromedome because Shadowplay Chromedome is modeled after the toy. And even then it still has some differences that make it clear the toy is G1-based rather than any iteration of IDW Chromedome-based.

How do you know they didn't deliberately model it after the Shadowplay design because of the Shadowplay design being based on the G1 toy?

Kurona wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

Kurona wrote:Hasbro's Chromedome becomes more and more of an utterly bizarre scenario the more I look at it. He has an IDW-styled head... yet an original toy/rebirth/headmasters-styled body. And then it doesn't end there - the colour layout on his toy/cartoon-accurate body is IDW-accurate, and the colours on his IDW-accurate head are cartoon-accurate. It's a very strange way to do a compromise

It seems to me like they simply molded the figure--head and body--to resemble Chromedome's IDW Shadowplay design (at least in robot mode), but applied to it the traditional, not-specifically-IDW-based Chromedome colors.

They modeled it after the toy with the only real differences being caused by the Dead End engineering, fixed proportions and updated articulation. It just happened to look like Shadowplay Chromedome because Shadowplay Chromedome is modeled after the toy. And even then it still has some differences that make it clear the toy is G1-based rather than any iteration of IDW Chromedome-based.

How do you know they didn't deliberately model it after the Shadowplay design because of the Shadowplay design being based on the G1 toy?

Touche I suppose, but that seems a bit... roundabout and pointless compared to just modeling it on the G1 toy.
Besides there's details on the toy that aren't there on the shadowplay design so

Cyberpath wrote:I feel like the headmaster gimmick is becoming an overkill. Everyone is a Headmaster now regardless if they were so in fiction.

Ultra Markus wrote:i get that hasbro goes with more toy accuracy and takara goes with cartoon accuracy
but with cerebros hasbro went with cartoon accuracy and takara went with toy accuracy on fortress maximus

Kurona wrote:I'm more lenient than most; unless it's a character I'm a massive stickler for, you can just stick the character's head on a body that's not entirely unfitting for them and I'm pretty cool with that. That's why I'm alright with CW Prowl and Mirage. I still can sorta see them in that.

william-james88 wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:I feel like the headmaster gimmick is becoming an overkill. Everyone is a Headmaster now regardless if they were so in fiction.

That can be said about Unite Warriors too, even more so than Combiner Wars. Now that was a big time overkill.

A new Sunstreaker? Combiner
Deluxe Ghost Starscream? Combiner
Classics Armada Thrust? Combiner
G1 style Trailbreaker? Combiner
A new Ironhide? Yay! Oh no wait, its also a combiner
And after 30 years we finally get skylynx redone and he is a freaken combiner!?!?

And this was worse than TR because while TR gives them a gimick they didnt have before, it doesn't limit the toy's possible uniqueness, or general look. Scourge, Blurr and Trigerhappy still look very much like themselves and all have nice transformations that are all their own. But with UW/CW, the fact that they are redecos fo the same mold means they arent all that unique, nor do they look the part. Ironhide looks nothing like his G1 self and all the cars have fake parts for the chest (like Wheeljack, Sunstreaker, and the Datsuns). And Skylynx is made smaller and gutted of his seperate lynx and bird modes.

I still have many of these toys and do not regret my purchases, but I did mean to show that TR handles the shared gimick much better than Combiner Wars did when it comes to homaging the look and idiosyncratic nature of these characters.

Kurona wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:i get that hasbro goes with more toy accuracy and takara goes with cartoon accuracy
but with cerebros hasbro went with cartoon accuracy and takara went with toy accuracy on fortress maximus

Takara were still going cartoon-accurate; just accurate to their cartoon.



Just so happened that their cartoon was toy-accurate in the first place.

Sowndwave76 wrote:

Kurona wrote:I'm more lenient than most; unless it's a character I'm a massive stickler for, you can just stick the character's head on a body that's not entirely unfitting for them and I'm pretty cool with that. That's why I'm alright with CW Prowl and Mirage. I still can sorta see them in that.

I'm going jump in on this, and the real reason I can agree with Kurona at this point is because those characters have already been given fairly decent updates.
Yes, they all had minor issues, but come on. The Datsuns from the Universe/Generations Lines were pretty spot-on-- door wings, shoulder canons, hood chests, and even though the vehicles were updated, even the legs/feet were pretty legit.
The Universe/RtS updates for Sideswipe, Sunstreaker, and Jazz?? Pretty awesome.
The Classics seeker mold? While a bit too small, it's beautiful!
So at this point, yeah variations aren't necessarily a bad thing.

Ultra Markus wrote:

Kurona wrote:

Ultra Markus wrote:i get that hasbro goes with more toy accuracy and takara goes with cartoon accuracy
but with cerebros hasbro went with cartoon accuracy and takara went with toy accuracy on fortress maximus

Takara were still going cartoon-accurate; just accurate to their cartoon.



Just so happened that their cartoon was toy-accurate in the first place.

i was referring to the big guy too

Maximal Rainmaker wrote:LG Galvatron pink is really bright...especially in Youhedix's video review, you can barely see it. What made them pick such a bright shade of it? Galvatron is purple in the cartoon.

Maximal Rainmaker wrote:LG Galvatron pink is really bright...especially in Youhedix's video review, you can barely see it. What made them pick such a bright shade of it? Galvatron is purple in the cartoon.

Maximal Rainmaker wrote:LG Galvatron pink is really bright...especially in Youhedix's video review, you can barely see it. What made them pick such a bright shade of it? Galvatron is purple in the cartoon.

RAR wrote:Isn't it an issue with IDW that unlike say DC's Superman they don't impose "House" Character designs as much on people drawing the comic so whenever there is an artist change someone like Bumblebee has changed his appearance more times than I've had Hot diners and only some Character seem to maintain a look - others don't.

So Chromedome has some modest variation by artist in his design. I don't actually see the IDW typical Chromedome head (as say used in the Botcon toy) to be that hugely different anyway he still has the ears and the V shaped visor after all and the colours are broadly similar.

It's like comparing all the existing options they don't all match up but they are still all obviously Chromedome still, so doesn't it in part come down to personal preference or what sort of collection you are trying to make.

As for Blurr - All I cared about was how he displayed with Roadbuster I like the Hasbro ones but I also like the other options too.

fenrir72 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Cyberpath wrote:I feel like the headmaster gimmick is becoming an overkill. Everyone is a Headmaster now regardless if they were so in fiction.

That can be said about Unite Warriors too, even more so than Combiner Wars. Now that was a big time overkill.

A new Sunstreaker? Combiner
Deluxe Ghost Starscream? Combiner
Classics Armada Thrust? Combiner
G1 style Trailbreaker? Combiner
A new Ironhide? Yay! Oh no wait, its also a combiner
And after 30 years we finally get skylynx redone and he is a freaken combiner!?!?

And this was worse than TR because while TR gives them a gimick they didnt have before, it doesn't limit the toy's possible uniqueness, or general look. Scourge, Blurr and Trigerhappy still look very much like themselves and all have nice transformations that are all their own. But with UW/CW, the fact that they are redecos fo the same mold means they arent all that unique, nor do they look the part. Ironhide looks nothing like his G1 self and all the cars have fake parts for the chest (like Wheeljack, Sunstreaker, and the Datsuns). And Skylynx is made smaller and gutted of his seperate lynx and bird modes.

I still have many of these toys and do not regret my purchases, but I did mean to show that TR handles the shared gimick much better than Combiner Wars did when it comes to homaging the look and idiosyncratic nature of these characters.

Maybe a massive cash grab sales strategy to ensure that each component/character/products gets sold (I'm speaking of the UW/CW lines)

Btw, I agree with your views with that. Seems like every modern versions of iconic G1 characters are combiners now. Trouble is, it is sort of a lazy way to re-introduce them. At least the classics had their own unique molds without having to deal with their connector pegs. TR also with the Hm overkill so they have to add playsets now for our make believe forts and bases.

You can only squeeze a gimmick so far but hey, it's capitalism.

Maybe somewhere down the road Hb will recycle the Furby gimmick where each tf fig has a chip that will unlock a different set of phrases when placed in front of certain figures that won't be heard if placed with another (hear that Hb...I'm giving you another recycled idea to implement

Cobotron wrote:MAN! That is a majestic Lio-bot. Getting hard to ignore.

But what I really need to do is replace my original.

Note to all: Candles and collections don't mix.

Kurona wrote:Also, unless I'm mistaken, he seems to have an extra gun? In the vehicle mode picture there's a blue gun on the left side of the vehicle (where the sword is on the right side). Is that something that came with Trion?

Cobotron wrote:

Kurona wrote:Also, unless I'm mistaken, he seems to have an extra gun? In the vehicle mode picture there's a blue gun on the left side of the vehicle (where the sword is on the right side). Is that something that came with Trion?

That looks like Sentinel's gun. Maybe it's on the same sprew as Infinitus?



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Kurona wrote:

Cobotron wrote:

Kurona wrote:Also, unless I'm mistaken, he seems to have an extra gun? In the vehicle mode picture there's a blue gun on the left side of the vehicle (where the sword is on the right side). Is that something that came with Trion?

That looks like Sentinel's gun. Maybe it's on the same sprew as Infinitus?



how the blankity blank blank do you spell sprew... spru... sproe?

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