Transformers Legacy United Wave 2 Voyagers and Deluxes Found at US Retail + Reviews

I snagged silverbolt, cheetor, animated bee and Prime, chase, tiger hawk, blaster, and 2 dinobots. (Foggy head this morning)

I got a bunch of Legacy, and I have a bunch of opinions.

First up, the Legacy hauls:




First up, let's talk Wheeljack.

This is a really nice figure. I really love the mass he has to him. The kibble management is decent, not really good because of how much there is, but still decent. The transformation is involved but not difficult, and he forms a very sizeable alt mode. I also love his colors, this is a much better colored Wheeljack.

Compared to the ER figure, I think the ER figure forms a real nice car mode, has great feet, the black arms are good, and the shoulder cannon is good. The origins Jackie forms a real nice van mode, has the better colors, feels better in hand, and is just more interesting. Both have arms that are a little oddly sized/proportioned to me though, though neither is really bad.

I will say the fact that Origins Wheeljack has the gimmick of forming a hollow form to pair up with Bumblebee helps him step up. Couple that with the fact that I have always found the ER jackie somewhat boring, I think Origins Wheeljack is my favorite of the 2. I am going to struggle with deciding on displaying him in alt mode or robot mode.

As for his role with the other 2 origins figures, they all pair up really nicely. I think Jazz is the cleanest in bot mode, and the sleekest looking in alt mode, but both modes are pretty divorced from one another, so that helps both modes out. Bee is still the most integrated between modes, and is probably still my favorite of the 3, i still adore that little guy. Wheeljack is the most involved of the 3 I'd say, but his gimmick helps him stand up to them, and his size and rod storage is also cool, as is the road/blast shield.

All 3 Origins figures are cool, they made a great trio.







And now, we roll into the retail wave. I had no interest in Gears, as the T30 is still perfect for me. And I will get Sandstorm, but i have a feeling he will go on sale, so I am going to wait on him.

starting low on the price tag and going up, lets start with Cheetor. Cheetor is simply wonderful. I really adore him! I just got the Botcon CatSCAN about a month or so ago, and he lives up to that larger figure, and is really fun. Not gonna lie, I had kinda hoped the core Beast Machines would have been Nightscream or Rattrap for actual show scale, but this is also kinda nice because he can scale with MPs.

Also, my daughter, like CatSCAN, took an immediate liking to him, she grabbed him and was loving him. I think she is going to be a Beast Machines fan!




Next up is Chromia. She is super nice in hand, the blue, teal, and red are perfect. She may not be accurate to Cyberverse, but she is still a really nice looking Chromia. She also looks great with Windblade, so she will slot in nicely on that shelf.




Last in terms of photos, we have Shard. I am enjoying these Infernac rocks, and she is no exception. The colors are super rich in hand, very pleasing to look at. I also love how her legs work, really adds some expressiveness to her. Her light piping is also sublime. She is just overall fun, and goes nicely with her rock brothers






As for the voyagers, I do not have photos of them yet, but i do have some opinions.

Silverbolt is a little odd, his wings feel oddly limited in robot mode, like I wish they could actually rotate up to his feather launching position. They also feel weirdly small. Other than that, is robot mode is cool, as is his transformation. However, bid-dog mode is also weird, the back legs feel too far back or the tail feather too short, and the wings still feel oddly smaller/undersized in some way. I like him, but i feel like he fell short.

Cybertron Starscream, however, is a stunner. Someone loved him on the design team, cause this robot mode is incredibly posable, and looks awesome no matter what you do with him. There is so much playability and posability with him, it's great. Transformation is good, and the jet mode is solid. I feel like the underwide could've been a smidge tighter, but otherwise, he is great. I think he may be the star of the wave.

Totally agree with you about Wheeljack. The pictures don't do him justice, the backpack doesn't feel nearly as cumbersome in hand, especially when it's all pegged together (surprised it pegs into his wings like that). He really earns that Voyager price point, arguably more than 86 Ironhide. The shield worries me, the hinge doesn't have grooves so you really have to twist it to take it apart. I doubt I'll be putting it back in "road" mode any time soon. It's so odd to me that they didn't gang mold the shield with the rest of the figure, it's not like they can use it elsewhere. My only complaint is there seems to be some tolerance issues with his leg panels, you can either snap the back in securely or the side in securely, but not bother, one side is always just barely holding on.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:Totally agree with you about Wheeljack. The pictures don't do him justice, the backpack doesn't feel nearly as cumbersome in hand, especially when it's all pegged together (surprised it pegs into his wings like that). He really earns that Voyager price point, arguably more than 86 Ironhide. The shield worries me, the hinge doesn't have grooves so you really have to twist it to take it apart. I doubt I'll be putting it back in "road" mode any time soon. It's so odd to me that they didn't gang mold the shield with the rest of the figure, it's not like they can use it elsewhere. My only complaint is there seems to be some tolerance issues with his leg panels, you can either snap the back in securely or the side in securely, but not bother, one side is always just barely holding on.

Emerje

I haven't had any issues with his leg panels, but I fully agree he feels much more voyager than the SS86 Ironhide mold.

I really do love him, I feel oddly very attached to him

We have a new review for you for the upcoming Legacy United Deluxe Sideburn Transformers toy. This is a straight redeco of Cyberverse Shadowstriker with a new head. At least that's what it looks like, if you spot more retooling, let us know. This toy is scheduled for a mid summer release as part of United wave 3, along with a repack of Strongarm, a third Infernac deluxe and Cybertron Hot Shot.

Sowndwave76 wrote:Times have definitely changed…
There’s almost nothing in this mainline that’s appealing to me.

Sums up how I've been feeling about it. I mean Gears is nice looking but not one that I'm really gung ho about getting, there are several I want to see which is what holds me back from getting some of these other due to lack of space. Why get them if I'll inevitably have to ditch them in favor of the ones I actually want more if released later on?
That said, is Gears even considered mainline being that it's not available at Amazon?

Speaking of Gears I tried to order him and another at Gamestop because they were offering free shipping on preorders $59+, unfortunately at checkout they wanted to charge $7.99 each item because they had different shipping dates.... So I canceled the transaction because if felt like BS since basically nothing arrives on the same day.

william-james88 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:I wonder if the Dodge Viper license is prohibitively expensive, or they just didn't feel it was worth it?

They never use vehicle licenses for Legacy figures. I guess its not part of the line's budget.

Then I'm guessing that means the only way to see VW Bee again is in SS86? That said, looking back I don't recall any license releases for that line either. Not that it matters because none of them ever have the car makers logo on them anyway even when they are. As an aside, Tracks looks very close to what a corvette does from that era silhouette wise. And that was Kingdome mainline so I'm often baffled by how they release what where. lol

Till-all-R1 wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

Ironhidensh wrote:I wonder if the Dodge Viper license is prohibitively expensive, or they just didn't feel it was worth it?

They never use vehicle licenses for Legacy figures. I guess its not part of the line's budget.

Then I'm guessing that means the only way to see VW Bee again is in SS86? That said, looking back I don't recall any license releases for that line either. Not that it matters because none of them ever have the car makers logo on them anyway even when they are. As an aside, Tracks looks very close to what a corvette does from that era silhouette wise. And that was Kingdome mainline so I'm often baffled by how they release what where. lol

Or as a Generatins/Legacy exclusive, which is how it has released both times so far.

Till-all-R1 wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:Times have definitely changed…
There’s almost nothing in this mainline that’s appealing to me.

Sums up how I've been feeling about it. I mean Gears is nice looking but not one that I'm really gung ho about getting, there are several I want to see which is what holds me back from getting some of these other due to lack of space. Why get them if I'll inevitably have to ditch them in favor of the ones I actually want more if released later on?
That said, is Gears even considered mainline being that it's not available at Amazon?

Speaking of Gears I tried to order him and another at Gamestop because they were offering free shipping on preorders $59+, unfortunately at checkout they wanted to charge $7.99 each item because they had different shipping dates.... So I canceled the transaction because if felt like BS since basically nothing arrives on the same day.

Yeah, Gears isn't exactly the most thrilling character for me either, but I'm happy they made him and he does look pretty on point.
In fact in some ways the designers did a better job with him than Brawn imo.
I'm no TF collection expert, but after being in the game for almost 20 years, I would totally suggest holding off on anything you're feeling "mehhh" about. I hear you about space. I'm in that same boat. But these days, it's even more so a cost issue. And not that I can't afford figures... I can basically buy whatever I want (an example is I am buying two of every Dinobot; I have two sets of Stunticons, I'll get two sets of Constructicons, etc.). But it's more and more difficult justifying the cost of each figure... Getting Gears online and not getting free shipping means he's right around $30. Even though that's become the norm, that's steep for a deluxe figure. Btw he was on Amazon but sold out and hasn't been re-listed since.
Here's something else I've done-- I've made a list of characters I know I want if made/released (and of course look good). There is always an exception, a surprise, etc. that I end up buying, but those are usually few and far between. Not to mention, if you really stick to your "most wanted" list (assuming it's somewhat limited), then an occasional exception isn't any sort of issue. Once characters are initially announced/leaked, some do land on a "maybe" list. Legacy Sandstorm is an example (and I've already decided he's a "pass").
What I've found nice about my "maybe" list, is it becomes a really fast and easy decision once I see images of the figure. Again, Sandstorm is an example. I'll never spend money on a figure that I think looks "mehhh". This applies to my most wanted list as well. If somehow SS86 Springer is completely underwhelming, I'll skip him. I get buyer's remorse so freaking easy, which also helps me know when I should pass on a figure. Lastly what I'll add to this, is that there's usually a way out; multiple times (although not often) I've bought a figure that was just above "mehhh" status... I held onto it, kept it sealed, and mulled it over. A few times I decided if it went on sale, I'd do the return/re-buy it thing, then I may be willing to keep it. However, a couple of those times no sale happened during the 30-90 day return window I had, and just made the return. This is one advantage of buying through Target, Amazon, and even Walmart.
That's enough about that from me.
But good luck getting Gears if you still want him.
So far I've missed out on Origins Wheeljack because I really didn't think the preorders would sell out as fast as they did. I'm giving it a couple more weeks before I even think about considering the aftermarket.
But yeah, Gears is the only mainline figure I plan on buying for this entire year.

Bro, I haven't even found all of Wave 1 yet in Las Vegas and I went hunting last week

It seriously blows me away how slow the Targets and Walmarts in this city are to restock. Though I hear that's apparently a West Coast USA problem in general?

NotFrankeSisto wrote:Bro, I haven't even found all of Wave 1 yet in Las Vegas and I went hunting last week

I haven't even found wave 1 of legacy evolution

I got my copy of Gears yesterday from Hasbro Pulse. Overall a good figure, my copy had tight joints so thats definitely good. I really didn't do a true size comparison. I have him on my Autobot diorama near Brawn and Beachcomber. From that point of view, i think he looks great amongst his fellow Autobots. I haven't transformed him yet but maybe later on. I am not crazy about the vehicle mode, so for my purpose he will be displayed in robot mode.

SGM

A note, looking on Hasbro Pulse, looks like Legacy United Leader Class WFC ER Optimus Prime is available again for pre-order. Thats as of 1022 am, central time.


SGM

OMG I'm having a huge mental moment!

Anyway our YoutubeR friend PrimeVPrime has posted a review for TAKARA TOMY NEMESIS BRIDGE 3-Pack...'nuff said!

Nemesis Destron wrote:OMG I'm having a huge mental moment!

Fixed it for you, you got part of the time stamp stuck in there.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

Nemesis Destron wrote:OMG I'm having a huge mental moment!

Fixed it for you, you got part of the time stamp stuck in there.

Emerje

Aw damnation....thanks Emerje!

SGMLordMirage wrote:A note, looking on Hasbro Pulse, looks like Legacy United Leader Class WFC ER Optimus Prime is available again for pre-order. Thats as of 1022 am, central time.


SGM

Is this any different than the earlier release? Does he have yellow eyes? Is there any other paint differences? Thanks

TK415 wrote:

SGMLordMirage wrote:A note, looking on Hasbro Pulse, looks like Legacy United Leader Class WFC ER Optimus Prime is available again for pre-order. Thats as of 1022 am, central time.


SGM

Is this any different than the earlier release? Does he have yellow eyes? Is there any other paint differences? Thanks

Nobody knows, but probably not. Hasbro hasn't said anything about changes and all of the photos in the listings are the same ones from the Earthrise release.

Emerje

In the photos I saw, he had yellow eyes and just overall looked to have more of a toy deco.
Which imo also stood out with the stripes on the trailer.
What initially caught my eye was that the inner sides of the lower legs were blue and not gray.

Having the Autobot 5-pk in hand has further confirmed that I’m a big fan of the non-metallic paint for figures’ faces. I really wish Hastak would do this with all future G1 characters.
Sunstreaker has suddenly become one of my favorite Autobot (non-Dinobot) figures.

Sowndwave76 wrote:In the photos I saw, he had yellow eyes and just overall looked to have more of a toy deco.
Which imo also stood out with the stripes on the trailer.
What initially caught my eye was that the inner sides of the lower legs were blue and not gray.

Yes, those are the original stock photos. That figure went through a bunch of changes before release.



Emerje

I just got Animated Optimus Prime. Appart some parts of the transformation that are a bit tricky and the dire need of gap fillers, he's WAY better than the original IMO. I may be buying the Reprolabels to complete his "geewun" look.

Took Starscream to work this week, he is really good






And here is he with the OG

They got him pretty close and accurate, a bit better than the Armada Screamer.

Now if only we could get a Commander version to go with the OG Supreme Screamer...

Rodimus Prime wrote:They got him pretty close and accurate, a bit better than the Armada Screamer.

Now if only we could get a Commander version to go with the OG Supreme Screamer...

I bet some Chinese smart-ass will make an oversized K.O sooner or later.

Speaking of size, if we follow the old Cybertron standards, that new Screamers could be a deluxe.
Or would it?

-Kanrabat- wrote:Speaking of size, if we follow the old Cybertron standards, that new Screamers could be a deluxe.
Or would it?

I don't have any Cybertron deluxes, but here's Energon Rodimus:



Starscream is still clearly taller (and of course much better articulated and less hollow).

-Kanrabat- wrote:Speaking of size, if we follow the old Cybertron standards, that new Screamers could be a deluxe.
Or would it?

The original was a Voyager and the new one is only a little smaller so it would still be a Voyager by the old standards.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:Speaking of size, if we follow the old Cybertron standards, that new Screamers could be a deluxe.
Or would it?

The original was a Voyager and the new one is only a little smaller so it would still be a Voyager by the old standards.

Emerje

Yeah.
The proof is that Screamers is the sane size as the Classic voyager Optimus Prime.

I'm at work so I can't post a picture, but if anyone can do it in the meantime...

Transformers Legacy's Commander Magmatron is out in Asia (predominantly Honk Kong) and in the UK thanks to InDemandToys. So fans have him in hand and are giving us the best look at this figure, and comparing it to the original. We have a pictorial review that delves into that by TheDapperScrapper. Read it below.

The full dinosaur set comes out really well with them, all being bigger and more articulated than the original.
The new textures and colours also makes them really eye catching.
I like the newer, more realistic style better for the dinosaurs but actually prefer the original look of the Pterosaur.



The Giganotosaurus is easily my favourite of the individual beast modes.
Loving the spiked spine running down the figure and how thick and chunky he looks.
Also nice to have the mechanical robot leg pieces tucked away.



The Elasmosaurus/Plesiosaur is nice in the way that it looks more realistic with it's shorter yet chunkier neck that actually looks more pleasing and proportional.
The downside is that it's not super long and bendy like the original which was always fun.
Although I'm fine with it how it is, I wouldn't mind seeing how an upgrade kit would look with a long and way more bendy neck would be.



Not much to say on the Quetzocoatlus other than it's bigger and better articulated without the original flapping-wing gimmick.
I much prefer the original neck and head design over the new one and also the flexy/rubbery wings I hope will hold up to time.



The big bad himself, Magmatrons combined mode is suitably towering and feels much more solid than the original.
Couple of things I'm not keen on is the rubbery sword that stores in the Gigas tail. It clips in very securely which means it bends and flexes quite a bit when you try to unclip it/pull it out. (Hoping for a hard plastic upgrade kit)
Also wishing for an adapter to mount the Plesiosaur shield on the side of the arm rather than just the back.



Just a nice standing pose with his sword down.
Took me a while to get it so the Legacy's sword wasn't bending all over the place.



Bit of a cheat here in that I unclipped the waist swivel which does give you an ab crunch to work with but you can hide it with camera angles.
Also, as I got my old one down for these comparison shots, i managed to show he's no slouch either for posing.



Lastly, the magmasaur.
Just a big, silly chimera mode and although it's not as clean looking as the original, the increased side gives it such a presence.

Can't wait to get this guy. Glad I preordered. This is gonna sell quickly...especially to scalpers.

The Legacy is very impressive.

So big, ut could as well be a HASLAB!

Definitely getting this, but it's sad that the price of better individual -saurs and 'bot mode is that (what other fans called) "Dino-orgy-mode" now looks less like "Crime-Against-God-Mode" (as I always called it, in homage to Albegas) than the crime of someone fan-moding toys that weren't actually designed to combine.

And just after we get a TM2 Megatron that eliminates the pesky rubber of the original, we get an update of Magmatron that DOES have tons of rubber where the original didn't?!? This smells like another one of BW Megs' history-altering time-travel schemes to get revenge for what Magmatron did to him in that first IDW Beast Wars series!

Maybe HasTak's getting too reliant on 3P upgrade companies. Sounds like this could require a whole new/fake Skysaur.

Not that it isn't awesome overall!

The rubber is there for safety reasons, obviously.

After all, even Transformers need a rubber to be safe. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

-Kanrabat- wrote:The rubber is there for safety reasons, obviously.

After all, even Transformers need a rubber to be safe. ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

.....



"Leakin Lubricant!"

He looks great, I am looking forward to him!

I know, but the rubber's gotta' meet the road someday, and we'll see if it's safe from cracking.

It's also that I backed that last HasLab partly because my original RID Op and Magnus's tires endured the decades as poorly as anyone else's, hence my TF rubber aversion.

But I'll still trade the original's action features for a Gigantosaurus big enough to live up to the name any day!

It's not rubber, guys. It's rubbery plastic.

Sabrblade wrote:It's not rubber, guys. It's rubbery plastic.

Don't ruin the dirty joke, dude...there is a very high percentage of dirty old men on this forum

First-Aid wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:It's not rubber, guys. It's rubbery plastic.

Don't ruin the dirty joke, dude...there is a very high percentage of dirty old men on this forum

Hey, I resemble that remark!

Oh look, it's him again

I can't find the original article so I'll ask here, any idea when Rsvlts are releasing their 40th anniversary shirts?

It probably should be noted that I’m in the Midwest, so your area could be completely different, but numerous Target stores near me (15-35 mins) have had Origins Wheeljack. He’s gone super-fast; the closest stores to me have been sold out, and a couple others just a bit further out canceled my pick-up orders because the last copy was gone before my order could be processed.
But today it finally worked out with a store roughly 20 mins away. And the 20% off was definitely nice.

Anyway, if you’re still looking like I was, don’t give up hope yet!

Looks like the Optimus Prime re-release of the week is Armada Prime for this week.

https://hasbropulse.com/collections/tra ... ime-figure

From the Facebook page of Armada Rad-Core, it's Legacy United Deluxe class Cybertron Universe Hot Shot.

Hi, I’m Rad and i would like to tell you about Legacy United Deluxe Class Cybertron Universe Hot Shot!

This turbo revving young punk is a modern update to the original Cybertron toy, with a few alterations in proportions and modern articulation, it comes with his Cyber Key, which unfortunately no longer actually activates any gimmicks, the spoiler/wings have to be manually pulled out.

His weapon is blast effect compatible which is a nice touch, he is a great update to the original toy, though does take a few liberties but thats to be expected when the show was 1:1 toy accurate i think a modern update should be able to play around a little.

Wow that looks pretty damn good (coming from someone not at all attached to the character)

That's awesome. Now let's avoid Prime vs Prime's forthcoming video so we're all surprised when it's out.

I don't like his arms at all, his elbows are far too low. They should have found a way to combine the elbow with the wheel pin to make it look more natural.

Emerje

Thanks to the Facebook page of Armada Rad-Core, we have our first in-hand images of the Legacy United Deluxe class Cybertron Universe Hot Shot! It looks to be a pretty faithful update of the original Cybertron toy (which is probably leaving Prime fans a little salty).

Hi, I’m Rad and i would like to tell you about Legacy United Deluxe Class Cybertron Universe Hot Shot!

This turbo revving young punk is a modern update to the original Cybertron toy, with a few alterations in proportions and modern articulation, it comes with his Cyber Key, which unfortunately no longer actually activates any gimmicks, the spoiler/wings have to be manually pulled out.

His weapon is blast effect compatible which is a nice touch, he is a great update to the original toy, though does take a few liberties but thats to be expected when the show was 1:1 toy accurate i think a modern update should be able to play around a little.

While not officially revealed by Hasbro, it's likely that Hot Shot is in Legacy United Wave 3, as leaked figures tend to be in imminently upcoming Waves.

How are all the Armada/UT fans feeling about this update? Does it satisfy what you want in a new figure? Are you on the fence about it? Share your feelings on this new addition to the Legacy Unicron Trilogy lineup below!

I like it!!

Much like the the Cy-Op he's standing next to, he's good, but I still have my original, so unless his articulation and deco allow him to do something show-accurate that the OG-E-HS can't...easy pass.

I mean, I'm glad Cybertron/Galaxy-Force is getting the respect it's due in Legacy since it produced my 5th favorite TF cartoon of all time, but even if it was an update of someone I missed, like Megatron/Galvatron, I'd be just as likely to shell out for vintage as buy the new one. I love that line, despite the misplaceable Cyber-Keys.

Though I did buy Velocitron Override, which might be my weakness for updated fembots since I'd also buy a Legacy Tunderblast...but her toy had several problems to fix, and she could be repainted into female Sweeps to prey on my weakness for army buildin'!

I'm not sure why, but for some reason, when I first saw the pictures, Armada Blurr popped into my head as a viable re-mold of this figure.

That Hot Shot is indeed pretty good.

Seeing it next to Optimus reminds me that he definitely need a Commander update.