Transformers Legacy Motormaster Video Review

Grahf_ wrote:To anyone who preordered Motormaster from Target when the preorders first went up during the "spend $50 save $10" and "spend $100 save $25" sales, please be aware that Target might try to cancel your preorders.

I received an email the other day stating that they would be cancelling the order due to the payment not being able to be processed. This sounds like my fault until I tell you that they put a hold for the funds as soon as the order was placed. Meaning that the funds were already set aside for the items so there's no reason why the payment couldn't be processed. I even used a brand new and unused card for this payment.

It wanted me to change the payment method. However, doing this voids the sale for some reason. I called up customer support and the nice man in India assured me that the order would not be cancelled and that everything about the order was fine on his and his "higher up's" end.

Today I check my email and the order is cancelled. It's Target.com, of course it is.

I can reorder them even though Motormaster is presold out. But again, this voids the sale.

So I called them back up and got a different nice man in India to help me. I explained to him that the reason why it was cancelled was because Target.com seems to hate when people preorder items while on sale and they have the tendency to cancel them. Which is true as most of us can attest to over the years as it seem most cancelled preorders happen when they put up Hasbro preorders while they're running a sale. I also told him that the had been on hold so the funds were always available for the order and that the previous nice man in India told me that everything was going to be fine and not be cancelled.

So this new nice man in India went to his "higher up" and came back to me with an acceptable offer. He told me that not only will he be able to honor the $25 off if I were to repurchase everything on the payment method of my choice but he was going at add an additional $15 off for a grand total of $40 off. However, the full amount was charged first which totaled $109 (I got Blue Marvel as well to bring it up to $100 for the sale). Then I received a refund of $40 and any applicable taxes.



So just be aware that there's a chance Target might try and cancel your preorder if you got it on sale and you can technically still get the sale price if you talk to them to explain. They might even give you a little extra off if they mess something up like they did for me.



I just don't understand how they couldn't process the payment even though they had a hold on the funds the entire time. It's not like I could use that money once the hold was in place. After it was cancelled, my available funds went up by the amount that was on hold. So again, they had the money the entire time but somehow couldn't process the payment. I never have problems anywhere other than Target.com.

Grahf_ wrote:To anyone who preordered Motormaster from Target when the preorders first went up during the "spend $50 save $10" and "spend $100 save $25" sales, please be aware that Target might try to cancel your preorders.

I received an email the other day stating that they would be cancelling the order due to the payment not being able to be processed. This sounds like my fault until I tell you that they put a hold for the funds as soon as the order was placed. Meaning that the funds were already set aside for the items so there's no reason why the payment couldn't be processed. I even used a brand new and unused card for this payment.

It wanted me to change the payment method. However, doing this voids the sale for some reason. I called up customer support and the nice man in India assured me that the order would not be cancelled and that everything about the order was fine on his and his "higher up's" end.

Today I check my email and the order is cancelled. It's Target.com, of course it is.

I can reorder them even though Motormaster is presold out. But again, this voids the sale.

So I called them back up and got a different nice man in India to help me. I explained to him that the reason why it was cancelled was because Target.com seems to hate when people preorder items while on sale and they have the tendency to cancel them. Which is true as most of us can attest to over the years as it seem most cancelled preorders happen when they put up Hasbro preorders while they're running a sale. I also told him that the had been on hold so the funds were always available for the order and that the previous nice man in India told me that everything was going to be fine and not be cancelled.

So this new nice man in India went to his "higher up" and came back to me with an acceptable offer. He told me that not only will he be able to honor the $25 off if I were to repurchase everything on the payment method of my choice but he was going at add an additional $15 off for a grand total of $40 off. However, the full amount was charged first which totaled $109 (I got Blue Marvel as well to bring it up to $100 for the sale). Then I received a refund of $40 and any applicable taxes.



So just be aware that there's a chance Target might try and cancel your preorder if you got it on sale and you can technically still get the sale price if you talk to them to explain. They might even give you a little extra off if they mess something up like they did for me.



I just don't understand how they couldn't process the payment even though they had a hold on the funds the entire time. It's not like I could use that money once the hold was in place. After it was cancelled, my available funds went up by the amount that was on hold. So again, they had the money the entire time but somehow couldn't process the payment. I never have problems anywhere other than Target.com.

Emerje wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

cloudballoon wrote:If Hasbro can add like half an inch to lower legs and add a ratcheted swivel below the knee, then fans can choose either toy or toon accurate leg modes (car in front/back),

Both toy and toon had cars in the back. It was only Combiner Wars that reversed it.

or as I like to call it, Toy Commercial Animation vs Animated Series design.

I've always wondered how the animators for the cartoon and commercial (and some of the artists of the day) screwed up so colossally as to get the legs upside down (and Drag Strip in the commercial). I know the animations were full of errors, but that's such a weird mistake to make. I wonder if nobody actually looked at the toy and drew Menasor based on description only.

Emerje

MaximalNui wrote:So I guess they moved away from the Energon weapon gimmick? So far the only new reveal with one was the Commander Blitzwing; not even Cybertron Metroplex has one. Which is a pity, because I actually really liked the gimmick: it was a unifying factor among different characters and styles (or potential styles, looking at you "Prime Universe" Bulkhead and Knock Out) and since it was just an accessory it was perfectly non-intrusive and optional for those who preferred a more accurate figure display.

MaximalNui wrote:So I guess they moved away from the Energon weapon gimmick? So far the only new reveal with one was the Commander Blitzwing; not even Cybertron Metroplex has one. Which is a pity, because I actually really liked the gimmick: it was a unifying factor among different characters and styles (or potential styles, looking at you "Prime Universe" Bulkhead and Knock Out) and since it was just an accessory it was perfectly non-intrusive and optional for those who preferred a more accurate figure display.

Emerje wrote:
o.supreme wrote:
Sabrblade wrote:
cloudballoon wrote:
If Hasbro can add like half an inch to lower legs and add a ratcheted swivel below the knee, then fans can choose either toy or toon accurate leg modes (car in front/back),
Both toy and toon had cars in the back. It was only Combiner Wars that reversed it.


or as I like to call it, Toy Commercial Animation vs Animated Series design.

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I've always wondered how the animators for the cartoon and commercial (and some of the artists of the day) screwed up so colossally as to get the legs upside down (and Drag Strip in the commercial). I know the animations were full of errors, but that's such a weird mistake to make. I wonder if nobody actually looked at the toy and drew Menasor based on description only.

Emerje


It is one of the reasons I've always said Menasor is so Fugly. The worst looking combiner in G1. In every other Gestalt, a team member represents it's own limb. Not just a casing over a hollow skeleton.

DeathReviews wrote:As much as I dissed Kickback, Legacy Ransack somehow looks better. Maybe it's the new head sculpt, or the blaring yellow... But am I going to buy a 4-pack just to get that one figure? Fat chance. Especially if it's more repaints that I don't like.

o.supreme wrote:

DeathReviews wrote:As much as I dissed Kickback, Legacy Ransack somehow looks better. Maybe it's the new head sculpt, or the blaring yellow... But am I going to buy a 4-pack just to get that one figure? Fat chance. Especially if it's more repaints that I don't like.

Yeah I'm not sure where Hasbros logic is. I know they want to play into the whole "multiverse" angle but having one obvious stand out character in these sets ( Previously Fangry) and now, Ransack, seems odd.

Kids won't care, and parents wanting to get a " battle in a box" won't care either, but most fans who obviously want the one one toy made with them in mind will pass,

These should have been sold as Selects. Packs of multiple characters do much better when there is a more united theme than " 4 randos from across dimensions* . When Target asked for a multipacks set they probably were thinking of some sort of unified team, or theme at least.

o.supreme wrote:When Target asked for a multipacks set they probably were thinking of some sort of unified team, or theme at least.

ZeroWolf wrote:I have a feeling that target only cares as long as it sells, no matter the buyer.

Nemesis Primal wrote:Not every Energon weapon is clear plastic. The product descriptions call out the following Wave 2 figures as having Energon weapons:
-Leader Blitzwing (the rocket hands)
-Elita-1 (clear rifles)
-Knock-Out (clear "shield" that combines with his rifle to become the spear)
-Tarantulas (painted buzzsaw)
-Jhiaxus (painted red gun)
And on top of that, the designers have referred to all Deluxe Stunticons so far as having Dark Energon blasters, even though the product descriptions have forgone mentioning them in favor of talking about Menasor.

Sabrblade wrote:Elita-1 has Twin Energon Blasters, Knock Out has an Energon Shield, Tarantulas has an Energon buzzsaw, and Wildrider has Energon Blasters that shoot Dark Energon (same case as Drag Strip's guns).

Not all are translucent plastic, but that's what Hasbro called them upon their official reveal.

o.supreme wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:I have a feeling that target only cares as long as it sells, no matter the buyer.

I suppose. How well did it sell though? I know many people weren't able to find it because of poor distribution, whereas, at least one of my Targets had them in stock when a 25% off sale was occurring so who knows.

Emerje wrote:For Target they were very hard to find. Many stores never got them and they sold out literally instantly when they appeared online. Having them make it to clearance was certainly an anomaly.

o.supreme wrote: Why a single toy, that is highly desired by adult collectors would be in a multi-pack of less desirable toys.

william-james88 wrote:Also, Scott needs to work on proofreading his thumbnails

o.supreme wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Also, Scott needs to work on proofreading his thumbnails

For sure, especially if he is charging $150.00 an hour as a consultant.

o.supreme wrote:So...I just watched a legit review of Legacy Blitzwing from emgo. Those Hulk hands just make no sense. I mean, it's not something the character ever had. If they wanted to stick with the Energon weapon theme, they could have made the guns out of translucent plastic. I know the figure itself it pretty solid with few gaps, but if they had extra budget for tooling, it could have been better spent elsewhere.

o.supreme wrote:So...I just watched a legit review of Legacy Blitzwing from emgo. Those Hulk hands just make no sense. I mean, it's not something the character ever had. If they wanted to stick with the Energon weapon theme, they could have made the guns out of translucent plastic. I know the figure itself it pretty solid with few gaps, but if they had extra budget for tooling, it could have been better spent elsewhere.

Evil Eye wrote:Power fists are always cool and when I heard we were having them I was kinda stoked. The problem is that, even disregarding the rest of the figure's issues, they aren't very good. Vehicle storage kinda sucks, they're completely inarticulate aside from the wrists (a crime as big poseable hands are like peak fun as far as toys go) and they're not even fists! If Blitzwing punched an Autobot with those, he'd end up with broken fingers!

Sowndwave76 wrote:

Evil Eye wrote:Power fists are always cool and when I heard we were having them I was kinda stoked. The problem is that, even disregarding the rest of the figure's issues, they aren't very good. Vehicle storage kinda sucks, they're completely inarticulate aside from the wrists (a crime as big poseable hands are like peak fun as far as toys go) and they're not even fists! If Blitzwing punched an Autobot with those, he'd end up with broken fingers!

Good points…
Power fists probably could be cool if done right.
But what are these, “chop hands”??

Sowndwave76 wrote:I’m still excited for Blitzwing.
He’s right up there towards the top of my most wanted list.
The bot mode is really well done, & is enough for me.

ZeroWolf wrote:Ironically the hands are my favourite part of this though their inclusion is a head scratcher.

Incidentally, do we know of all the leader class figures for Legacy now?

william-james88 wrote:

ZeroWolf wrote:Ironically the hands are my favourite part of this though their inclusion is a head scratcher.

Incidentally, do we know of all the leader class figures for Legacy now?

Yes, but not all have been revealed. Still missing TM2 Megatron.