Transformers Legacy Core Slug Available on Amazon + Video Review

...I believe Baltmatrix already reviewed core Slug.

o.supreme wrote:It's odd because as its generally accepted that SS86 was borne simply out of not having enough slots to fit everything in the annual Generations Mainline.

Think of it like how the original Classics line was only supposed to be a filler line that lived and died from 2006 to 2007. Its sheer popularity led it to take on a whole new life of its own, with Universe serving as a direct continuation and expansion. So too has Studio Series 86 surpassed its original intention.

Likely going to pass on these Legacy Core Dinobots. Maybe it's because I still have a lingering bad taste in my mouth over PotP Volcanicus. That set had so much promise, but the Combiner War dynamic made it a floppy mess. We'll see how it all looks when it's finished.

o.supreme wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Commander G1 Prime will be a thing, we just don't know when exactly. He's one of the toys we know Hasbro has designed (just like we knew Takara had an mp Trailbreaker in the works but that took like over 5 years to materialize).

Likely in the SS86 line at some point.

Based on what? It's just as likely if not moreso he'll be in the 2024 mainline instead.

o.supreme wrote:It's odd because as its generally accepted that SS86 was borne simply out of not having enough slots to fit everything in the annual Generations Mainline.

How is it odd when that purpose still exists, thanks to Legacy continuing to give space to non-G1 figures? I'd argue that's why SS86 has been continued and expanded, in fact.

o.supreme wrote:Still while I thought some Siege, and certainly ER and Kingdom releases (of characters that appeared in the 86 Movie) were "good enough" stand ins for SS86, it seems that certainly isn't the case (SS86 Ironhide for example).

Don't overthink it - plenty of them still are (including the SIEGE and ER versions of Ironhide, because SS86 Ironhide is a failure joke waste of plastic). But some, namely Kingdom UM & the Kingdom repack of ER Arcee, were just rush-job stand-ins so that they had some sort of representation of the movie-introduced characters on the shelves for the 35th anniversary.

SS86 Ironhide feels like a case of them having a spare slot and deciding to see if they could use it to do a more definitive version of him just because he was in the movie. But it wasn't effort well spent, I'd say, because he's ultimately just ER with an integrated roof. And by D-Max's account is a panel-y mess as a result.

o.supreme wrote:However, while we may get things like a "clean deco" Siege Springer in SS86. I cant see Hasbro doing another Galvatron (especially with the clean version now in Legacy), or another Rodimus or Cyclonus, the Kingdom Versions were for all intents and purposes SS86.

There, I solidly agree with you.

I'm really worried that we still haven't seen hide nor hair of Metalhawk or Twincast. I'm hoping those don't turn out to be misinformation or canceled...

o.supreme wrote:Likely in the SS86 line at some point. It's odd because as its generally accepted that SS86 was borne simply out of not having enough slots to fit everything in the annual Generations Mainline. Still while I thought some Siege, and certainly ER and Kingdom releases (of characters that appeared in the 86 Movie) were "good enough" stand ins for SS86, it seems that certainly isn't the case (SS86 Ironhide for example).

However, while we may get things like a "clean deco" Siege Springer in SS86. I cant see Hasbro doing another Galvatron (especially with the clean version now in Legacy), or another Rodimus or Cyclonus, the Kingdom Versions were for all intents and purposes SS86.

I know this is hypothetical talk, but I do hope a CC Prime ends up being part of the SS86 subline.
I’m so much more likely to buy it if it’s decently screen accurate and free of any extra mainline gimmick of that time, as well as the nasty Siege greebling & battle damage paint apps. I’m so glad that’s all being left in the past, & will never be a part of SS86.
This also makes me glad I never opened my NF Prime; he and Soundwave both look great in that packaging.
The only drawback for me with a CC OP will be the fact that I won’t display the trailer; it will most likely stay packed away.

I’m also glad I never went for that Amazon exclusive 2 pack to get ER Ratchet.

I will agree there’s really no reason for a new Galvatron (although I still wish his color was different), Rodimus, or Cyclonus.
Even for Kup and Blurr who imo were shortchanged with their face sculpts, I don’t see how a retool, or any change could be enough of an improvement to get me to buy another version.
The rest of those two really is all good enough for me.

I would’ve loved for the seekers, Soundwave, Astrotrain, & Shockwave to have joined Ironhide in the SS86 treatment, but knowing that’s not going to happen in 2024, I’ll be done collecting and gone-zo by the time it ever would.

Sabrblade wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Ya know, can Hasbro just release a stand that's compatible with Transformers already? Those stands they released for 6" figures are ok, but something we could just peg in would be great too.

There's that Tenseg Base stand that Takara released with the Optimus redeco of Kingdom Ultra Magnus's cab robot.

Japanese exclusive and it's rather pricy. How about something a little more reasonable?

DeathReviews wrote:Wow, they... REALLY like that Skids mold, don't they?

If by they you mean the Japanese then yeah, the City is all but the national car of Japan.

Core Slag doesn’t have a bad looking bot mode. But everything outside of that, and so far these Core Dinobots are a huge letdown.
Sludge is just atrocious…
And while a lot of the issues stem from the need of function to combine, it’s just sad how bad he really is…
Snarl is my favorite, so if his Core version is good, I may just get him.
In fact, if they’re good, I’d still get Grimlock and Swoop as well.
But I have very little hope for any of this to really happen.

It’s not even that I have too high of expectations; these are Core class figures…
But man, these Dinobots could have been so much better.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Commander G1 Prime will be a thing, we just don't know when exactly. He's one of the toys we know Hasbro has designed (just like we knew Takara had an mp Trailbreaker in the works but that took like over 5 years to materialize).

Likely in the SS86 line at some point.

Based on what? It's just as likely if not moreso he'll be in the 2024 mainline instead.

The main line Commanders should really be left to large or gimmicky characters that can benefit from the increased price point, SS Commanders should be for characters that need the price point to obtain proper screen accuracy in both modes. We've got our main line Optimus Prime several times over, time for our screen accurate one with fully loaded trailer and I'd rather he wasn't taking up space that could go to a new Fire Convoy, Energon Prime, Tidal Wave and so on. They'll hopefully make the SS Commander interchangeable between SS proper and SS86 and not just SS86 because I'd like to see Scorn as a Commander, he's bigger than Grimlock (who's already pushed the limits of the price point) in the movie and would really benefit from the class (Slug and Strafe can be Leaders).

chuckdawg1999 wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

chuckdawg1999 wrote:Ya know, can Hasbro just release a stand that's compatible with Transformers already? Those stands they released for 6" figures are ok, but something we could just peg in would be great too.

There's that Tenseg Base stand that Takara released with the Optimus redeco of Kingdom Ultra Magnus's cab robot.

Japanese exclusive and it's rather pricy. How about something a little more reasonable?

Hasbro used to sell Transformers branded stands, but they didn't seem to be very popular. I bought a few Gundam Action Bases, they'll hold up a WFC Seeker in their 3mm stand port no problem.

I ordered some of these which should be able to hold up a Deluxe or Core figure just fine since they're basically unmarked figma and Nendoroid stands

Emerje

Sowndwave76 wrote:I know this is hypothetical talk, but I do hope a CC Prime ends up being part of the SS86 subline.
I’m so much more likely to buy it if it’s decently screen accurate and free of any extra mainline gimmick of that time, as well as the nasty Siege greebling & battle damage paint apps. I’m so glad that’s all being left in the past, & will never be a part of SS86.
This also makes me glad I never opened my NF Prime; he and Soundwave both look great in that packaging.
The only drawback for me with a CC OP will be the fact that I won’t display the trailer; it will most likely stay packed away.

I was going to say I can't imagine dropping $80 for a toy and keeping $50 of it set aside, but my Buzzworthy Bumblebee 4-packs would disagree.

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:I know this is hypothetical talk, but I do hope a CC Prime ends up being part of the SS86 subline.
I’m so much more likely to buy it if it’s decently screen accurate and free of any extra mainline gimmick of that time, as well as the nasty Siege greebling & battle damage paint apps. I’m so glad that’s all being left in the past, & will never be a part of SS86.
This also makes me glad I never opened my NF Prime; he and Soundwave both look great in that packaging.
The only drawback for me with a CC OP will be the fact that I won’t display the trailer; it will most likely stay packed away.

I was going to say I can't imagine dropping $80 for a toy and keeping $50 of it set aside, but my Buzzworthy Bumblebee 4-packs would disagree.

I hear ya!

And you could probably get back most of that difference by selling off what you don’t want from those 4 pks.
Which reminds me of selling Rodimus’s trailer for $30 after getting him on sale for $65.
At this point I could just pretend that trailer is in a box in my basement.
Meaning I haven’t missed it one bit.
Meanwhile, I have an extremely good voyager-almost-leader-class figure on my shelf that was only $35.

I probably wouldn’t sell CC Prime’s trailer, but who knows…
Don’t you think he the figure) will be a brand new mold?
I’m betting of the $90, the figure alone will be worth $45+ at least.

Sowndwave76 wrote:

AcademyofDrX wrote:

Sowndwave76 wrote:I know this is hypothetical talk, but I do hope a CC Prime ends up being part of the SS86 subline.
I’m so much more likely to buy it if it’s decently screen accurate and free of any extra mainline gimmick of that time, as well as the nasty Siege greebling & battle damage paint apps. I’m so glad that’s all being left in the past, & will never be a part of SS86.
This also makes me glad I never opened my NF Prime; he and Soundwave both look great in that packaging.
The only drawback for me with a CC OP will be the fact that I won’t display the trailer; it will most likely stay packed away.

I was going to say I can't imagine dropping $80 for a toy and keeping $50 of it set aside, but my Buzzworthy Bumblebee 4-packs would disagree.

I hear ya!

And you could probably get back most of that difference by selling off what you don’t want from those 4 pks.
Which reminds me of selling Rodimus’s trailer for $30 after getting him on sale for $65.
At this point I could just pretend that trailer is in a box in my basement.
Meaning I haven’t missed it one bit.
Meanwhile, I have an extremely good voyager-almost-leader-class figure on my shelf that was only $35.

I probably wouldn’t sell CC Prime’s trailer, but who knows…
Don’t you think he the figure) will be a brand new mold?
I’m betting of the $90, the figure alone will be worth $45+ at least.

I don't know, this is all hypothetical, right? I'm a big fan of the Siege and Earthrise engineering, so I don't think they'd need to reinvent the wheel. There are lots of little things they could clean up for the Earthrise version like the vestigial Siege legs, but I'm not sure how much extra value they could pack into the base figure.

AcademyofDrX wrote:I don't know, this is all hypothetical, right? I'm a big fan of the Siege and Earthrise engineering, so I don't think they'd need to reinvent the wheel. There are lots of little things they could clean up for the Earthrise version like the vestigial Siege legs, but I'm not sure how much extra value they could pack into the base figure.

Oh yeah, definitely hypothetical.
Not to mention the current Prime figures(s) are right in scale with all of the other ER figures.
I also wonder what all they could do with the trailer to make it $50 worth, but keep it in proportion with a current Prime mold. By the time this actually happens, an energon axe and a bunch of blast effects will seem like really cheap, lame filler. I get a matrix is a staple, but should that even be counted as an extra anymore??

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And if the base figure is just a retool, I’d expect a whole lot from that trailer. And yet, past the classic G1 interior stuff, what else is there?

Until we get a look at such a Commander class SS86 Optimus, I'm happy with my Tenseg Base Optimus Prime. I gave him the armor and Delta Magnus head of one of my two SG Ultra Magnus toys, to give him the Super Mode that G1 Optimus never had and should have had back in 1986, but was robbed of by Hasbro's choosing to kill off Optimus an make the Powered Convoy toy a separate character.

Sabrblade wrote:Until we get a look at such a Commander class SS86 Optimus, I'm happy with my Tenseg Base Optimus Prime. I gave him the armor and Delta Magnus head of one of my two SG Ultra Magnus toys, to give him the Super Mode that G1 Optimus never had and should have had back in 1986, but was robbed of by Hasbro's choosing to kill off Optimus an make the Powered Convoy toy a separate character.

Weird, I did the exact same thing when the two came in, it's still next to me that way. I mainly did it out of curiosity, I don't intend to keep it that way since I really like the way Tenseg Prime's colors turned out and I don't like inner Delta/SG UM as much as I like the eHobby Magna Convoy I already have.

Emerje

Amazon just notified me that Needlenose will be delivered in a few days. I wonder if the other figures in the wave will be moved up. My Stunticons await Breakdown.

Rodimus Prime wrote:Amazon just notified me that Needlenose will be delivered in a few days. I wonder if the other figures in the wave will be moved up. My Stunticons await Breakdown.

As someone with zero standing preorders, I just checked the availability on the listings of that next wave and was told the following:
-Hot Shot is allegedly in stock right now
-Needlenose, Leo Prime, and the 3 Cores are all shipping later in the month
-Scraphook and Tarn still say March 1st thus far
-Can't find the listing for Breakdown

Emerje wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Commander G1 Prime will be a thing, we just don't know when exactly. He's one of the toys we know Hasbro has designed (just like we knew Takara had an mp Trailbreaker in the works but that took like over 5 years to materialize).

Likely in the SS86 line at some point.

Based on what? It's just as likely if not moreso he'll be in the 2024 mainline instead.

The main line Commanders should really be left to large or gimmicky characters that can benefit from the increased price point, SS Commanders should be for characters that need the price point to obtain proper screen accuracy in both modes. We've got our main line Optimus Prime several times over, time for our screen accurate one with fully loaded trailer and I'd rather he wasn't taking up space that could go to a new Fire Convoy, Energon Prime, Tidal Wave and so on. They'll hopefully make the SS Commander interchangeable between SS proper and SS86 and not just SS86 because I'd like to see Scorn as a Commander, he's bigger than Grimlock (who's already pushed the limits of the price point) in the movie and would really benefit from the class (Slug and Strafe can be Leaders).

I'm fully expecting 2024 is gonna be SS86 Commander Optimus (since that's where all the WFC-G1 redos are going these days and it keeps them from having to sell a Legacy Commander Optimus for 2 years in a row) who possibly shares parts/engineering with Magnus if Magnus has the cab bot, and Legacy Commander Tidal Wave as the combiner partner and companion piece for Leader Armada Megatron (who I imagine would get repacked around that time) and the antithesis of Armada Prime, as despite my personal want of Titan Tidal Wave, I think the current design team would want to work in that combination for the play value and the cross-sell with Megs.

Nemesis Primal wrote:As someone with zero standing preorders, I just checked the availability on the listings of that next wave and was told the following:
-Hot Shot is allegedly in stock right now
-Needlenose, Leo Prime, and the 3 Cores are all shipping later in the month
-Scraphook and Tarn still say March 1st thus far
-Can't find the listing for Breakdown

As someone with all of them on order (except core Thundercracker), I can confirm Slug arrived Tuesday and Sludge, Hot Shot, Needlenose and Leo Prime all say arriving Wednesday for me. All the others still say March 1st, but those are very likely to be changing soon as well.

^ Yep, got my Core Slag yesterday. This is the 1st Core class toy I've purchased. Not bad, but definitely could have used some more articulation in the limbs, but perhaps that would have compromised the stability of the combined mode? Anyway... not bad for a budget figure. Sludge is scheduled to arrive for me next Wednesday (1/11) as well, though it actually hasn't shipped yet.

Also, I was kind of hoping for Hasbro to send out a "Back in stock" notice yesterday, they were doing them each Friday for a while, but haven't done so in about a month, maybe they are taking inventory for the end/beginning of the new year? I honestly dont think Minerva ever even appeared anywhere near me. I've checked at least a dozen Walgreens stores, about half of them had Red Alert, (So I've probably seen at least 30 Red Alerts Recently), and the other half had nothing.

I too saw a bunch of the Amazon listings move up. I have a $25 amazon card from christmas, debating using to order one or 2 of them now.

Sowndwave76 wrote:I’m so much more likely to buy it if it’s decently screen accurate and free of...the nasty Siege greebling & battle damage paint apps. I’m so glad that’s all being left in the past...

For me, on the other hand, reducing the level of surface detailing and getting rid of the battle-damage ultimately led to me stopping buying mainline figures. It just hasn't been the same since Siege, in terms of visual interest or quality (with a couple of exceptions, and apart from the Beast Wars cast).

I want my plastic robot toys as far away as possible from the simplistic designs of the '84 cartoon, please. I'm not eleven any more, and that series' designs were what - three years out of thirty-eight? It baffles me how dominant they still are. But I guess that's why restaurants have menus!

o.supreme wrote:^ Yep, got my Core Slag yesterday. This is the 1st Core class toy I've purchased. Not bad, but definitely could have used some more articulation in the limbs, but perhaps that would have compromised the stability of the combined mode? Anyway... not bad for a budget figure. Sludge is scheduled to arrive for me next Wednesday (1/11) as well, though it actually hasn't shipped yet.

Also, I was kind of hoping for Hasbro to send out a "Back in stock" notice yesterday, they were doing them each Friday for a while, but haven't done so in about a month, maybe they are taking inventory for the end/beginning of the new year? I honestly dont think Minerva ever even appeared anywhere near me. I've checked at least a dozen Walgreens stores, about half of them had Red Alert, (So I've probably seen at least 30 Red Alerts Recently), and the other half had nothing.

Keep checking on Minerva, I was able to luck into finding one last week at a store I didn't expect to have anything. And it was on sale as well, so I paid just under $20 with tax. The store I found them in had a solid case as well as a whole row of Red Alerts, I think it will hit relative sturation fairly soon. If not, hit me up on a message and I can see if I can snag one for you and ship it.

Sludge, Leo Prime and Hot Shot all got bumped up again and should be here today!

Emerje wrote:

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:

o.supreme wrote:

william-james88 wrote:Commander G1 Prime will be a thing, we just don't know when exactly. He's one of the toys we know Hasbro has designed (just like we knew Takara had an mp Trailbreaker in the works but that took like over 5 years to materialize).

Likely in the SS86 line at some point.

Based on what? It's just as likely if not moreso he'll be in the 2024 mainline instead.

The main line Commanders should really be left to large or gimmicky characters that can benefit from the increased price point, SS Commanders should be for characters that need the price point to obtain proper screen accuracy in both modes.

And Optimus & Magnus with full-featured versions of their trailers aren't large/gimmicky?

Emerje wrote:We've got our main line Optimus Prime several times over, time for our screen accurate one with fully loaded trailer and I'd rather he wasn't taking up space that could go to a new Fire Convoy, Energon Prime, Tidal Wave and so on.

If we get a new RiD Optimus (not that we really need one) it will most likely be Leader-class, in order to scale with Diet Scourge.
I do admit that I wouldn't want a Commander-class G1 Optimus to displace other possibilities for the mainline (like, say, an improved Overlord), but that preference doesn't mean Hasbro won't put him in the mainline anyway.

Emerje wrote:They'll hopefully make the SS Commander interchangeable between SS proper and SS86 and not just SS86 because I'd like to see Scorn as a Commander, he's bigger than Grimlock (who's already pushed the limits of the price point) in the movie and would really benefit from the class (Slug and Strafe can be Leaders).

That, I would like to see.

Thanks once again to the Instagram account of vicegripx we have more in hand images of two new bikeformers for the Legacy Evolution line!

First up, we have a slew of pictures of the upcoming Deluxe currently being referred to as "Junkion 2". We see a bunch of photos showing it off in bike mode and robot mode, giving us a good look at it's size, compared to the soon to be released Scraphook. There's even a couple of fun shots showing off the interchangeability EvoFusion gimmick associated with these new Junkion molds.















Next up is Transformers Animated Prowl, the Legacy subline's first foray into the Animated Universe. While there were some complaints about the highly stylized Prime Universe characters (Arcee, Bulkhead, Knock Out) getting a heavy makeover that took away a lot of the uniqueness of the Prime designs, it looks like a lot more of the Animated style has made it into Prowl's design. He shows off some very nice poseability as well.






















What do you all think of these new figures? Tings have been fairly quiet on the official reveal front since the Deathsaurus final tally livestream, but here's to hoping we get some confirmation from Hasbro soon (and maybe a real name for the Junkion bike). Let us know what you think in the forums and stay tuned to Seibertron for the latest news, rumors and reveals!

Oof, those are some wide thighs on the meant-to-be lean ninja Prowl. Looks like they also kinda add to the chunk of the bike mode.

Both of these will be passes for me. I never had any care for junkions, and this Prowl is disappointing to me. The robot mode is passable until I get to the face. The bike mode is a total swing and miss. I know they're trying to G1-ify the character, but it just falls flat to me. Having owned the original Samurai Prowl, this is unnecessary. But then again, so were Arcee and Bulkhead.

While I have often asked for G1-ification of characters, it was always to incorporate non G1 characters to the G1 aesthetic (RTS Lugnut is a great example). The G1 version of animated Prowl is G1 Prowl, so I have no need for this new animated Prowl they are giving us.

I like that Junkion bike though

I haven't seen a mainline Junkion I don't love yet!

Legacy Animated Prowl is NOT a success to me. I get the G1-ified intent of the line -- Bulkhead & Knockout are good attempt in my book (though that doesn't mean Hasbro don't owe us fans a screen-accurate Deluxe Knockout figure!), Legacy Prime Arcee not so much (her redecos are great though) -- but this Legacy Animated Prowl's headsculpt and body proportion doesn't FEEL G1-ified enough to me, it doesn't "fit in" to my Generations G1 shelf any better than the TFA original.

I also don't need a Datsun Prowl & a bike Prowl on the same shelf. But it's hard for me to resist a motorcycle mold though. So if Hasbro come up a redeco, I'm in.

Oof, Prowl is stout. I'm still excited for him, but those thighs really could have done with being skinnier to make them look longer, or flat out being longer to look better with the shin length. Junkion 2 looks good, but I thought the point was the limbs were interchangable, and thus would be the same length? Not a dealbreaker, but odd

Prowl is still a pass for me, there looks something off about the 'wings' on his back and as others have said, he looks more stout.

Sabrblade wrote:Oof, those are some wide thighs on the meant-to-be lean ninja Prowl. Looks like they also kinda add to the chunk of the bike mode.

That was my initial reaction to the thighs as well, but the more I thought about it and looked back at shots from Animated, the more I realized that the chunky thighs flaring out actually kinda mimics the baggy tucked-in bike pants on his holographic driver/human avatar, and now I'm cool with it. I'm also waiting to fully judge the bike mode until we've seen it transformed correctly for certain, I find that hole in the side-view too suspect to believe that it's actually intended and the front view of the bike definitely looks to me like parts aren't aligned right, everything above the wheel/leg is angled wrong.

That's exactly how I see Prowl's legs as well. The original bot design had it as well, the way they flair out to the sides like baggy pants on skinny legs. I think he looks fine.

Emerje

Nemesis Primal wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:Oof, those are some wide thighs on the meant-to-be lean ninja Prowl. Looks like they also kinda add to the chunk of the bike mode.

That was my initial reaction to the thighs as well, but the more I thought about it and looked back at shots from Animated, the more I realized that the chunky thighs flaring out actually kinda mimics the baggy tucked-in bike pants on his holographic driver/human avatar, and now I'm cool with it.

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I'm also waiting to fully judge the bike mode until we've seen it transformed correctly for certain, I find that hole in the side-view too suspect to believe that it's actually intended and the front view of the bike definitely looks to me like parts aren't aligned right, everything above the wheel/leg is angled wrong.

Hmmm, yeah, it does look like a possibly intentional homage. That has a sense of fun to it, appropriate for Animated.

BUT, that ironically makes me want this even less now. Because mashing up Animated Prowl, G1 Prowl, and Animated Prowl's hologram driver/mustache man homage makes this 4 different things smished together that could instead get 4 different and deserved updates (not that we need another G1 Prowl toy immediately, unless it's SS'86 Shuttle-Death Prowl), so this is an even greater compromise, accurate to even fewer of its elements. That bugs the heck out of me, so as much as I've wanted official Animated update figures ever since the line ended, NO. If I encounter this case in store, any Junkion I could army build with would be an infinitely better use of the money that could theoretically go to Prowl. LOVE the long overdue mix'n'match gimmick.

But Legacy Prowl does look cheerful enough that I can practically hear him calling out to 3rd Party toymakers, telling them to start cranking out new, show-accurate toys of Animated characters, since Hasbro apparently can't within the parameters of the unified Legacy line. Guessing APC is most likely to respond, as they started doing show-accurate Prime characters long before Legacy Bulkhead, Arcee, and Knock-Out asked them to.

Of course, every official Airachnid toy has been begging for Night Countess since they hit the shelves.

I'm not bashing Hasbro by saying some of their toys are asking for it, since the whole point of the 3rd party market is to fill every nook and cranny that official product can't.

Both bikes looks perfect for me. I'll be getting both for sure.

-Kanrabat- wrote:Both bikes looks perfect for me. I'll be getting both for sure.

Forgot to mention the Junkion, but he does look fun, wonder if there's a Combiner head hidden in one of these?

"Legacy" Animated Prowl actually isn't all that bad...
except for those eyes.

And I'm not a big fan of how they've included the handlebars in the "wings" - I could "buy into" a change where the handlebars could rotate and "compress" to rest on the shoulders a-la "missile launchers", but having them just "stick up with the wings" gives me thoughts of someone grabbing Prowl by those handlebars and judo-throw-suplexing him and/or some other martial-arts-bot (Drift came first to mind for some reason) vaulting off of them...

I got Legacy Inferno for Christmas and I'm loving the figure but he needs his flamethrower. I'm looking at "upgrade kits" and the only one that seems decent is linked below. Anyone gotten this or should I hold off until a more reliable kit maybe comes out?

https://www.tfsafari.com/products/tim-h ... 9022442609

I'm OK with the Prowl figure. I still own Regular and Samurai TFA Prowl, and I don't see anything particularly disagreeable about the Legacy remake. There are differences yes, but not game-breaking differences. The head has a 'Mr. Happy' look to it that I wish was more muted, and the alt mode has some aspects that may not be practical in 'real life'. But making these figures has always been an exercise in compromise between decent alt and robot modes.

I'm among those who disliked the Prime Legacy remakes because they strayed too far from the source material. I'm cautiously optimistic about the TFA remakes though.

Bumblevivisector wrote:... (not that we need another G1 Prowl toy immediately, unless it's SS'86 Shuttle-Death Prowl)...

I also NEED a SS86 "Shuttle-Death Prowl(tm)" NOW Hasbro!

Really impressed by the amount of asymmetrical detail on the Junkion. I like that they are getting really creative with these designs and not just sticking to The Movie ones, that were all colour palette variations on Wreck-Gar...



Not the biggest fan of Animated in the world. But the Prowl face looks off, even to me. The rest looks good for a Bike Bot.

I really, really like the Junkions, especially the tow truck.

As for "Animated" Prowl, the only major letdown is the absence of the samurai armor/sidecar. His face reminds me more Smokescreen (G1) btw.

Sabrblade wrote:Oof, those are some wide thighs on the meant-to-be lean ninja Prowl. Looks like they also kinda add to the chunk of the bike mode.

Ironically, the poof makes them look like uniform pants and makes him accurate to his human avatar.

AllNewSuperRobot wrote:
Not the biggest fan of Animated in the world. But the Prowl face looks off, even to me. The rest looks good for a Bike Bot.

They made the visor/eyes WAY too big.

Silly thought: Legacy Rescue Bots Optimus Primal, as a Kingdom Megatron reshell

For me, if these new Junkions would’ve had better head and face sculpts, I would’ve considered them despite they are awfully small compared to Wreck-gar and Junkheap.
I do like the asymmetrical design of this second one, but still these are a really easy pass for me.

I think Animated Prowl looks really, really bad.
I had a pretty decent collection of Animated figures, and he was one I really enjoyed.
Although the cycle mode is alright, none of the bot mode works for me…
It just looks goofy, in a horrible way.
The face and head just look dumb…
If they weren’t going to keep any of the slender proportions of the torso and limbs similar to the original, why do any sort of elongating of the face and head??
This probably could be substantially different for me if they would’ve made a head/face that was much closer to a G1 style.
This guy just looks like a bozo.

Prowl's face doesn't bother me in the slightest, just looks like he's got a motorcycle helmet with chin strap and visor on. Never realized how little imagination people here had until this figure was leaked.

ZeldaTheSwordsman wrote:Silly thought: Legacy Rescue Bots Optimus Primal, as a Kingdom Megatron reshell

Heck, you could do a BW version of him by swapping a Prime head onto T-Wreck's body.

Emerje

Got Sludge from Amazon today. He's... Okay? Like I'm not gonna be too hard on him cause he forms the thighs and waist of the combiner and cost $10, but his bot mode obviously took the brunt of the compromises. Dino mode's good enough, if a bit lopsided, and combined mode is pretty good. Definitely the mode he designed for the most.

I will say, I'd hoped the combined torso would be bigger, cause as of right now Volcanicus won't even hit taller deluxe/small voyager height, only average deluxe height. Oh well though, so far I'm liking how he's turning out

Sentinel_Primal wrote:I will say, I'd hoped the combined torso would be bigger, cause as of right now Volcanicus won't even hit taller deluxe/small voyager height, only average deluxe height. Oh well though, so far I'm liking how he's turning out

I'm not interested in Dinoking, and I have the POTP Volcanicus team already, so this Core team is a hard pass. But, why Hasbro? It's like you're begging KO companies to upscale these... don't make it easy for them.

cloudballoon wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:I will say, I'd hoped the combined torso would be bigger, cause as of right now Volcanicus won't even hit taller deluxe/small voyager height, only average deluxe height. Oh well though, so far I'm liking how he's turning out

I'm not interested in Dinoking, and I have the POTP Volcanicus team already, so this Core team is a hard pass. But, why Hasbro? It's like you're begging KO companies to upscale these... don't make it easy for them.

I guess Hasbro has more faith in a Core class Volcanicus being a success (since it's still the G1 Dinobots in some form) than they have in a Core class Monstructor or Dinoking, and so are using Volcanicus to test the waters to see if it would be successful enough to warrent a Monstructor and/or Dinoking happening later.

Sabrblade wrote:

cloudballoon wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:I will say, I'd hoped the combined torso would be bigger, cause as of right now Volcanicus won't even hit taller deluxe/small voyager height, only average deluxe height. Oh well though, so far I'm liking how he's turning out

I'm not interested in Dinoking, and I have the POTP Volcanicus team already, so this Core team is a hard pass. But, why Hasbro? It's like you're begging KO companies to upscale these... don't make it easy for them.

I guess Hasbro has more faith in a Core class Volcanicus being a success (since it's still the G1 Dinobots in some form) than they have in a Core class Monstructor or Dinoking, and so are using Volcanicus to test the waters to see if it would be successful enough to warrent a Monstructor and/or Dinoking happening later.

I don't think they are testing waters, that Dinoking or Monstructor (whichever) will be happening. Probably as a boxset through fan channels. The core class is just to give parents a cheaper option on shelves for known characters, that's why the put Dinobots there. The combining gimmick is just an extra collect them all aspect at that level for kids/parents. Where we (the fans) come in is with the redecos that will emerge in fan channels.

cloudballoon wrote:

Sentinel_Primal wrote:I will say, I'd hoped the combined torso would be bigger, cause as of right now Volcanicus won't even hit taller deluxe/small voyager height, only average deluxe height. Oh well though, so far I'm liking how he's turning out

I'm not interested in Dinoking, and I have the POTP Volcanicus team already, so this Core team is a hard pass. But, why Hasbro? It's like you're begging KO companies to upscale these... don't make it easy for them.

The core class is to counter KOs, giving parents a cheap options for transformers while other classes become prohibitive for on the spur moment purchases. Same logic behind having those authentics figures in budget stores.