Transformers Golden Disk Jackpot has Shipped from Amazon.ca with Misaligned Head Issue

I bought my Jackpot and I have no idea when I'll receive it. But that "misalignment" is not too bad in pictures. I'll see what it will be really like in person.

Looks pretty bad to me, not sure how that slipped past QA, especially when it's so early. Hopefully it's just an issue with an early batch, but we've said that before (wrong head T-Wrecks anyone?).

Emerje

That isn't just a misalignment, the right half of his head appears to be smaller than the left side. How the hell can that even happen? If the head is made up of two halves, how the hell do you make the mold for one side smaller than the other? They should be simple mirror images of each other.

TF-fan kev777 wrote:That isn't just a misalignment, the right half of his head appears to be smaller than the left side. How the hell can that even happen? If the head is made up of two halves, how the hell do you make the mold for one side smaller than the other? They should be simple mirror images of each other.

I don't think it's a sizing issue but simple misalignment. The "helmet" shape is higher on one side at both the top and the bottom. If it was a problem with the size, you would expect higher on one end and lower or flat on the other. It's not great, but I don't see this as a deal breaker. I think a little paint could help even it out a bit, even if it's just to make the seam less prominent.

I'm also not sure that "it's on two of two" should be interpreted as "it's on every copy," though we know it won't be a one-off.

AcademyofDrX wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:That isn't just a misalignment, the right half of his head appears to be smaller than the left side. How the hell can that even happen? If the head is made up of two halves, how the hell do you make the mold for one side smaller than the other? They should be simple mirror images of each other.

I don't think it's a sizing issue but simple misalignment. The "helmet" shape is higher on one side at both the top and the bottom. If it was a problem with the size, you would expect higher on one end and lower or flat on the other. It's not great, but I don't see this as a deal breaker. I think a little paint could help even it out a bit, even if it's just to make the seam less prominent.

I'm also not sure that "it's on two of two" should be interpreted as "it's on every copy," though we know it won't be a one-off.

This is an issue on all copies people have claimed to receive so far. Granted, people may not share if there is no problem. There is a thread about this over at Cybertron.ca if you want more cases.

http://www.cybertron.ca/boards/showthre ... 2&page=476

Fair enough. Looking back at some of the official product art, maybe I'm crazy, but I'm seeing it even then although to a lesser extent.

AcademyofDrX wrote:Fair enough. Looking back at some of the official product art, maybe I'm crazy, but I'm seeing it even then although to a lesser extent.

You're right, it's there too. The angle is different, Hasbro knows to hide stuff that looks bad (sometimes). I guess it's an issue with the mold itself then.

At least the mismatched yellows don't look as horrendous as they did on sunstreaker. Probably pulls it off more with porsche alt over a mismatched lambo.


Hopefully there is a fix for the head. I liked the figure just didn't want to be paying the price for it and with the head it's dropped lower into my maybes.

blackeyedprime wrote:At least the mismatched yellows don't look as horrendous as they did on sunstreaker. Probably pulls it off more with porsche alt over a mismatched lambo.


Hopefully there is a fix for the head. I liked the figure just didn't want to be paying the price for it and with the head it's dropped lower into my maybes.

Not really sure what kind of fix is possible. Try to smooth it over with paint, or print a new head. Especially if it's a mold issue, it's not the kind of thing a simple running change would address, right? Especially for a specialty release?

I probably won't bother making any adjustment, as things like this generally don't bother me. If it's going to be a problem, the best bet is probably cancelling the preorder, especially if we don't see any copies that look better.

There will be an upgrade kit with a new head and filler parts for sure for those who are really bothered by the faults and are willing to pay the price.

Ok, riddle me this: why is Jackpot's head divided left-right instead of front-back?

:EDIT: or is it an issue where the steel mold halves were misaligned?

So, for anyone getting Jackpot now. If you wish to sell off the Sights Battle Master for a reasonable Price, feel free to PM Me, I am willing to make a deal. Thank you.

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Ok, riddle me this: why is Jackpot's head divided left-right instead of front-back?

I'm not sure exactly how it is divided, or how many parts there are. My initial thoughts were it was a simple left half/right half design, but there is no visible seam at the visor or the mouth, so it almost seems as if it would be 3 part head with a core containing the visor and mouth, and the right and left halves of his helmet fitting around the core.

If the helmet does in fact have a right and left half, then it looks like the screwed up the mold and one side is smaller than the other. Looking at the helmet, the silver parts on the left of the photo (right side of his head) are lower at the top of the head and slightly higher below his mouth. If it was a simple misalignment, then the silver parts on one side would both be higher or both be lower, not one higher while the other is lower.

Were there any other figures worth mentioning with this same issue?

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Ok, riddle me this: why is Jackpot's head divided left-right instead of front-back?

I'm not sure exactly how it is divided, or how many parts there are. My initial thoughts were it was a simple left half/right half design, but there is no visible seam at the visor or the mouth, so it almost seems as if it would be 3 part head with a core containing the visor and mouth, and the right and left halves of his helmet fitting around the core.

If the helmet does in fact have a right and left half, then it looks like the screwed up the mold and one side is smaller than the other. Looking at the helmet, the silver parts on the left of the photo (right side of his head) are lower at the top of the head and slightly higher below his mouth. If it was a simple misalignment, then the silver parts on one side would both be higher or both be lower, not one higher while the other is lower.

People are saying it's 1 piece so its the mold that is misaligned.
And its every single copy out now that is said to have this issue

william-james88 wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Ok, riddle me this: why is Jackpot's head divided left-right instead of front-back?

I'm not sure exactly how it is divided, or how many parts there are. My initial thoughts were it was a simple left half/right half design, but there is no visible seam at the visor or the mouth, so it almost seems as if it would be 3 part head with a core containing the visor and mouth, and the right and left halves of his helmet fitting around the core.

If the helmet does in fact have a right and left half, then it looks like the screwed up the mold and one side is smaller than the other. Looking at the helmet, the silver parts on the left of the photo (right side of his head) are lower at the top of the head and slightly higher below his mouth. If it was a simple misalignment, then the silver parts on one side would both be higher or both be lower, not one higher while the other is lower.

People are saying it's 1 piece so its the mold that is misaligned.
And its every single copy out now that is said to have this issue

It seems it was a problem with the stock figure. but to a lesser degree, and nobody.noticed.

Amazon told me mine is due to arrive tomorrow. I'll make a full pictures review then.

Overcracker wrote:

william-james88 wrote:People are saying it's 1 piece so its the mold that is misaligned.
And its every single copy out now that is said to have this issue

It seems it was a problem with the stock figure. but to a lesser degree, and nobody.noticed.

headissues.jpg

I think I might have figured it out. First, all left/right comments below are talking about which side of the photo, which will be the opposite of the figure's actual left and right side.

It might be misaligned, but I think that isn't the only problem. Looking at the 2 circled areas from Overcracker's photo, if the painted portion above the visor and the painted portion below the chin are each on a single piece for the left side and the right side that are molded together, there is a problem with the mold halves themselves. The painted part on the above the visor on the left side sits lower than the right side. The painted part below the mouth sits higher on the left side than the right side. That means the distance between the painted portions above the visor and below the mouth is less on the left side than on the right side. Which would mean the mold for the left side was made just slightly too small as compared tot he right, or vice versa.

The 2 different photos bear this out. For the stock photo, the portion above the visor is much closer aligned, but the part below the mouth is further off. From the in hand photos, it looks like they adjusted the alignment to fix the mouth, which is much closer, but it pulled the portion above the visor more out of alignment. That can only happen if the mold for one side is slightly smaller than the other.

Overcracker wrote:

william-james88 wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Ok, riddle me this: why is Jackpot's head divided left-right instead of front-back?

I'm not sure exactly how it is divided, or how many parts there are. My initial thoughts were it was a simple left half/right half design, but there is no visible seam at the visor or the mouth, so it almost seems as if it would be 3 part head with a core containing the visor and mouth, and the right and left halves of his helmet fitting around the core.

If the helmet does in fact have a right and left half, then it looks like the screwed up the mold and one side is smaller than the other. Looking at the helmet, the silver parts on the left of the photo (right side of his head) are lower at the top of the head and slightly higher below his mouth. If it was a simple misalignment, then the silver parts on one side would both be higher or both be lower, not one higher while the other is lower.

People are saying it's 1 piece so its the mold that is misaligned.
And its every single copy out now that is said to have this issue

It seems it was a problem with the stock figure. but to a lesser degree, and nobody.noticed.

headissues.jpg

Yes, that was stated a few posts above

william-james88 wrote:

TF-fan kev777 wrote:

Jelze Bunnycat wrote:Ok, riddle me this: why is Jackpot's head divided left-right instead of front-back?

I'm not sure exactly how it is divided, or how many parts there are. My initial thoughts were it was a simple left half/right half design, but there is no visible seam at the visor or the mouth, so it almost seems as if it would be 3 part head with a core containing the visor and mouth, and the right and left halves of his helmet fitting around the core.

If the helmet does in fact have a right and left half, then it looks like the screwed up the mold and one side is smaller than the other. Looking at the helmet, the silver parts on the left of the photo (right side of his head) are lower at the top of the head and slightly higher below his mouth. If it was a simple misalignment, then the silver parts on one side would both be higher or both be lower, not one higher while the other is lower.

People are saying it's 1 piece so its the mold that is misaligned.
And its every single copy out now that is said to have this issue

I'm guessing half of the mold also has the face while the other half doesn't which is why the seam is only visible at the top and bottom. But like Jelze had said, it's strange that they chose to do the mold side to side rather front to back. There was always going to be a seam, the misalignment made it even worse. Hope they learned their lesson.

Emerje

It actually doesn't bother me that much, almost looks like he is raising an eyebrow. I am ok with it

Amazon charged me for regular Tigatron. No shipping notice yet, but I'm glad they didn't cancel it since I used the wishlist trick.

Emerje

Emerje wrote:Amazon charged me for regular Tigatron. No shipping notice yet, but I'm glad they didn't cancel it since I used the wishlist trick.

Emerje

Mine charged and shipped, should be here Monday. Giggity!

I just got charged for Tigatron by Hasbro Pulse! The wait is almost over!

Got core class Soundwave yesterday. I think he's a pretty neat little guy, definitely feel like he's a mini-MP, especially with the proportions. Only issue I have is the feet poking up, but even then it's a minor issue

Wolfman Jake wrote:I just got charged for Tigatron by Hasbro Pulse! The wait is almost over!

Me too.

I also find it fun that people finally have come around on Kingdom Rodimus Prime. He's a great figure.

From Amazon.ca, Canadians are already receiving their Golden Disk Jackpot. I got mine as well so I can provide you with this pictures review.

The packaging come in a brown shipping box. The box itself is in full colors, but is very thin. The tray and tie-wraps binding the toys are all cardboard. Zero plastics. All that paper and cardboard except for the instructions will find themselves in the recycling bin.



As stated in the previous news report, This version of Jackpot have a new headsculpt but factory gremlins has missaligned the head parts so it appear a bit wonky. On mine, only the top of the head is affected. Not a big deal in my opinion. I'll just say he got bonked.



Jackpot is a repaint/retool of the Studio Series 86 Jazz. The colors are so different and with that still nice new head makes Jackpot worth owning even if you already have SS86 Jazz.



Jackpot come with the same gun as SS86 Jazz, but Hasbro didn't forgot his partner, Sights. Sights is a straight repaint of Siege Pteraxadon. Here, it works perfectly.







Let's not forget comparing the newer Kingdom Jackpot to the original Action Masters from G1!









Contrary to the Action Masters original, this is the very first time Jackpot can transform! And redecoing SS86 Jazz was the right call because that's the perfect altmode. Matching yellows is always very hard to do and here, it's no exception. However, the only yellow that dont match are on the front of the car and it's just a tiny part. Depending on how you see things, this may look even better than just a plain uniform line. Transformation was also easy like the SS86 original and at no times I was afraid that something may break due to all that clear plastics. The car is a beauty.













Overall, Golden Disk Jackpot is pretty awesome and it's amazing that it's no more expensive than a regular deluxe despite coming with a bonus Battlemaster. I highly recommend that you get yours while it's still in stock.

At first the glamour shots on their site made this look really good, but all these in hand photos make it out to be less so and they couldn't even paint the yellow hubcap black to match. Way too many yellow variations in alt mode. Overall a neat looking figure but nothing I have to have. If I was into customizing TF's I definitely pop a different head onto it.

Man, that head misalignment is inexcusable, that's basic quality control, it's the character's face, not some confusing shoulder piece, wrong tone paint or a precise tolerance on a joint. I always give some leeway when it comes QC because I know it's hard, but this is just sloppy. It's the figure's main feature. They should do a partial refund on those...

I adore my Jackpot.
Now that the mold is noW in "Generations", maybe we will have a Select Ricochet out of it?

-Kanrabat- wrote:I adore my Jackpot.
Now that the mold is not in "Generations", maybe we will have a Select Ricochet out of it?

Studio Series is part of Generations.

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I adore my Jackpot.
Now that the mold is not in "Generations", maybe we will have a Select Ricochet out of it?

Studio Series is part of Generations.

First, godammit typos with a word that shouldn't have been there to begin with.
Second, do far we never got any Select SS figures. As if they are not part of Generations. That's why I put "Generations" in quotation marks.

I got an early shipping notice for Terrorsaur from Hasbro Pulse today, he's coming in January now instead of March, so that'll be a nice early birthday present. I also got an early shipping notice for a Doctor Strange action figure I definitely did NOT order, so that's something I'll have to chase up.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I adore my Jackpot.
Now that the mold is not in "Generations", maybe we will have a Select Ricochet out of it?

Studio Series is part of Generations.

First, godammit typos with a word that shouldn't have been there to begin with.
Second, do far we never got any Select SS figures. As if they are not part of Generations. That's why I put "Generations" in quotation marks.

This Studio Series mold isn't of a design that's owned by Paramount, though. Therein lies the difference.

So, now my Scorponok is 'complete'. Amazing what a little height can do.





Also, I recently acquired a semi-holy Grail - Misfire! I basically got him for 40 bucks. He is not a floppy mess, unlike Fangry.

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I adore my Jackpot.
Now that the mold is not in "Generations", maybe we will have a Select Ricochet out of it?

Studio Series is part of Generations.

First, godammit typos with a word that shouldn't have been there to begin with.
Second, do far we never got any Select SS figures. As if they are not part of Generations. That's why I put "Generations" in quotation marks.

This Studio Series mold isn't of a design that's owned by Paramount, though. Therein lies the difference.

HA!
Damn licensing hell.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Sabrblade wrote:

-Kanrabat- wrote:I adore my Jackpot.
Now that the mold is not in "Generations", maybe we will have a Select Ricochet out of it?

Studio Series is part of Generations.

First, godammit typos with a word that shouldn't have been there to begin with.
Second, do far we never got any Select SS figures. As if they are not part of Generations. That's why I put "Generations" in quotation marks.

This Studio Series mold isn't of a design that's owned by Paramount, though. Therein lies the difference.

HA!
Damn licensing hell.

So yes, we absolutely could get a second Selects Ricochet out of this mold, if Hasbro felt so inclined to do so a second time.

Munkky wrote:I got an early shipping notice for Terrorsaur from Hasbro Pulse today, he's coming in January now instead of March, so that'll be a nice early birthday present. I also got an early shipping notice for a Doctor Strange action figure I definitely did NOT order, so that's something I'll have to chase up.

I got the same thing about Dr Strange so it's either a promo or an error.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:

Munkky wrote:I bought the Ark yesterday at a Comic-Con, making him my second ever Titan. He looks pretty good on the display, the trasformation is fairly easy, but I don't think I'm doing the chest plate right, it doesn't seem to fold all the way down even though I'm tabbing it into the right tabs that the instructions show. It feels weird having a Transformer that's bigger than Combiner Wars Devastator after six years of him being the centre piece of my collection, but I'm happy that I bought the Ark. Mainframe is neat too, he fits in with the rest of the Autobot cast surprisingly well.

Glad you like the set. I love the Ark, I named him Iaconus and he is my 2nd favorite titan so far. Mainframe is really neat too. They did a great job with that whole package

The only thing that irks me about The Ark is that the gun turrets don't move. Considering he has no weaponry in robot mode, having at least the arm guns able to point forward would be a problem solver. Was it really that important to the budget to have them fixed in place?

Jackpot's screwed up head brought back to mind that Terrorsaur seems to be coming with the wrong disk. The listings mention the Voyager disk, the disk in the promotional bios is the Voyager disk, the disk depicted in the background graphics of the promotional bios is the Voyager disk, and the boxart that Hasbro is trying to entice customers to "collect and complete" depicts the Voyager disk too.
However, all promo shots of Terrorsaur and the 360 video show him with the Vok disk. It'd be very stupid and sort of funny if Terrorsaur ended up shipping with that disk instead, given how they built the whole identity of the set around the Voyager one.

Rtron wrote:Jackpot's screwed up head brought back to mind that Terrorsaur seems to be coming with the wrong disk. The listings mention the Voyager disk, the disk in the promotional bios is the Voyager disk, the disk depicted in the background graphics of the promotional bios is the Voyager disk, and the boxart that Hasbro is trying to entice customers to "collect and complete" depicts the Voyager disk too.
However, all promo shots of Terrorsaur and the 360 video show him with the Vok disk. It'd be very stupid and sort of funny if Terrorsaur ended up shipping with that disk instead, given how they built the whole identity of the set around the Voyager one.

What disk?
Are you talking about the packaging?
Because for me, the packaging is recycling bin fodder. Nothing more.

-Kanrabat- wrote:

Rtron wrote:Jackpot's screwed up head brought back to mind that Terrorsaur seems to be coming with the wrong disk. The listings mention the Voyager disk, the disk in the promotional bios is the Voyager disk, the disk depicted in the background graphics of the promotional bios is the Voyager disk, and the boxart that Hasbro is trying to entice customers to "collect and complete" depicts the Voyager disk too.
However, all promo shots of Terrorsaur and the 360 video show him with the Vok disk. It'd be very stupid and sort of funny if Terrorsaur ended up shipping with that disk instead, given how they built the whole identity of the set around the Voyager one.

What disk?
Are you talking about the packaging?
Because for me, the packaging is recycling bin fodder. Nothing more.

The golden disk that comes as an accessory for Terrorsaur.

Rtron wrote:The golden disk that comes as an accessory for Terrorsaur.

So the disks only come with the Beasts, not the cars?
Interesting.

I think Terrorsaur is the only one that comes with a Golden Disc accessory. It is the same as one of the (2) that came with the Ark.

My contention is on the back both say "sounds of Earth". So basically we only get one side of the Vok with the Ark. The differing symbols on the other side aren't present at all.

o.supreme wrote:I think Terrorsaur is the only one that comes with a Golden Disc accessory. It is the same as one of the (2) that came with the Ark.

My contention is on the back both say "sounds of Earth". So basically we only get one side of the Vok with the Ark. The differing symbols on the other side aren't present at all.

I noticed the same thing, it's somewhat annoying.

Till-all-R1 wrote:they couldn't even paint the yellow hubcap black to match.

That's because it's on the POM sprue; the unpaintable plastic sprue.

Same shit as on the OG Jazz, it's a different material to handle stress better.

Sammythekat wrote:

Till-all-R1 wrote:they couldn't even paint the yellow hubcap black to match.

That's because it's on the POM sprue; the unpaintable plastic sprue.

Same **** as on the OG Jazz, it's a different material to handle stress better.

Exactly. This doesn't bother me though.
Maybe an eventual Reprolabels set would fix any colors discrepancies?

Emerje wrote:Amazon charged me for regular Tigatron. No shipping notice yet, but I'm glad they didn't cancel it since I used the wishlist trick.

Emerje

Still waiting on them to charge me for Tigatron, as well as Wrecker, Dead end, and my minipufts.

I also haven't gotten a notice from pulse of any golden disk collection figures were moved up from March, huh.

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I also haven't gotten a notice from pulse of any golden disk collection figures were moved up from March, huh.

The news report says it's only orders from Amazon.ca that are shipping early.

King Kuuga wrote:

D-Maximal_Primal wrote:I also haven't gotten a notice from pulse of any golden disk collection figures were moved up from March, huh.

The news report says it's only orders from Amazon.ca that are shipping early.

But I have seen on twitter and swore I saw someone on here say Pulse moved release dates up to January